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Ok i read a few posts here that diamond has usb host. Depending on the information how you can flash your rom using card reader it must have. And one thing more i found usb host debuging program. So i think it must have.
The question here is - does someone managed to use it for hard drive or keyboard or something like that ?
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IIRC, the USB host functionality is only available in the boot loader, and there is no driver included for when WM is actually running.
Ok but cant it be included somehow in the windows ?
Diamond does not have USB host functionality. AFAIK, currently only X75xx series offers it.
kdskamal said:
Diamond does not have USB host functionality. AFAIK, currently only X75xx series offers it.
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So, could somebody more capable extract driver from that device and cook a new ROM maybe?????
kdskamal said:
Diamond does not have USB host functionality. AFAIK, currently only X75xx series offers it.
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And the Toshiba G900 has it as well. And it was frickin awsome .....
Last call !!!!
I am trying to draw an attention of experts/cooks again.
Please could somebody elaborate problem of an USB host within Diamond. Is it really impossible to add/implement the USB host driver into Diamond ROM or somewhere else to have that feature in? I simply do not believe in that.
its possible....but the diamond lacks developer's support , sadly
blufade said:
its possible....but the diamond lacks developers support , sadly
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That maybe true, I don't know, but I'm sure the Raphael doesn't, so perhaps look for a solution in that forum?
If i knew how to write one i would do it -.-
USB Host
any conclusions yet? does this mean that the diamond has hardware in it, but does not have the driver? have anyone tried this cable? http://www.nazo-fjt.com/ptcep/w-zero3/es_usb.html
it's in japanese though, but in seconds through babelfish, it is readable in english.
anybody?
for example: anyone can modify RescoExplorer. so when you connect a pendrive to diamond, by resco you can see the pendrive as a second storage......i think thath the logic is this...
any news about this?I'm very interested in it...
There are news! It's there! Now we'd need a host driver and then a lot of Windows Mobile drivers for a lot of devices (what about watching TV with DVB stick? *fg*).
so do what about our WinMo's... I think its only for androids
Assuming USB hub functionality is present on the HD2, does anyone know if standard USB devices (e.g.generic keyboards or standard USB memory sticks) could be used on HD2 without having to install special drivers?
I'd like to know this to!
And like the G02, can I use a gamepad on this baby?
Given that USB host isn't supported how do you expect the device to have the drivers for it?
According to various reviews I've seen, USB host is supported.
sent them a mail
hello, just a quick question regarding the new HTC HD2,
does is "support" USB host, i.e can I plug in ,say, a USB memory stick (Generic devices)?
best regards
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lets see how fun the answer will be...
Well, there are no drivers for peripherals in the leaked ROMs, no official information, nothing that would really indicate USB host support. It may be enabled somehow via hacks, but that would certainly mean that drivers need to be installed separately.
got a reply from HTC today;
"It doesn't support"
thats a shame really, hoped it would have... no TV out and no usb host, that sucked
how would it work to extract the host drivers from another device?
Could they be used on the HD?
(I think not after what I have read, but it just might work)
may be you can try thoses drivers :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480899
and some proper cabe because you may have to add a input power cable and see if it works and tell us
Is there any hack already that will let me to get a video out of the nexus one? If so where can I read more about it?
If not, is anyone working on suck hack? again, where can i get some more info on it?
Thanks, xda!
Search. And the answer is no.
(Technically, you could install Sven Killig's kernel with USB host support and HDMI dongle drivers, make cables, buy USB2HDMI dongle for $100 or so, and then you could have some way of video out. But given the question and the lack of skills to search the forum, I don't think these skills are enough to make such modifications - including the fact that this kernel can't be used for anything else, since it disables normal USB device functionality).
Jack_R1 said:
Search. And the answer is no.
(Technically, you could install Sven Killig's kernel with USB host support and HDMI dongle drivers, make cables, buy USB2HDMI dongle for $100 or so, and then you could have some way of video out. But given the question and the lack of skills to search the forum, I don't think these skills are enough to make such modifications - including the fact that this kernel can't be used for anything else, since it disables normal USB device functionality).
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I have used the search, I just didn't find the answer, thought to ask maybe someone heard about any news on the topic.
I have seen the usb host hack, and that is what I'm thinking about, but was interested if there were some better options to do it (aka via the 3.5 like the samsung galaxy s does).
So back to my question, is anyone working on anything like that besides the usb host hack aka via the 3.5, or maybe a way to directly use a micro usb to hdmi cable?
I'd have a lot of money if I had $1 for every time it needs to be explained.
There will be no integrated video out of any kind for Nexus. Ever. Because there is no HW for it inside.
kostiak said:
I have used the search, I just didn't find the answer, thought to ask maybe someone heard about any news on the topic.
I have seen the usb host hack, and that is what I'm thinking about, but was interested if there were some better options to do it (aka via the 3.5 like the samsung galaxy s does).
So back to my question, is anyone working on anything like that besides the usb host hack aka via the 3.5, or maybe a way to directly use a micro usb to hdmi cable?
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You didn't search enough.
The hardware is not there to output video though the 3.5mm jack, nor the usb port.
You may not know how useful USB host is. You can use USB stick (up to 32GB), USB keyboard, USB mouse.
If it had USB host, I'd buy it for sure (wifi only).
Sadly NO...
On German Amazon its possible to pre order the device and the datasheed isnt saying something about USB Host
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/B1gfmv71YkS.pdf
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0041RSF6Y/
This one was my favorite (because of the Phone capability) until you asked this very good question
Maybe they got it rooted in future and then its possible? (depends also on hardware...)
Greetz Tokl
I'd guess that its not going to ever have the capability without hacking. I don't think any device has that at the moment.
I guess what gets hacked depends on what the hackers think is worth doing, and I can see that USB host would be an especailly awesome thing for the Tab so hopefully it will get some interest.
If its a game breaker, you may well be disappoited for a long while tho. This kind of hacking doesn't happen over night.
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I'd guess that its not going to ever have the capability without hacking. I don't think any device has that at the moment.
If its a game breaker, you may well be disappoited for a long while tho. This kind of hacking doesn't happen over night.
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This is SO true. I remember people trying for years to hack USB host mode in to Nokia's Linux Tablets: the N770 and such. I wonder: Did they ever manage to do it?
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I'd guess that its not going to ever have the capability without hacking. I don't think any device has that at the moment.
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Please someone correct me if I'm wrong (as I don't have the device in question) but doesn't the Nokia N8/E7 support just that? I seem to remember a video demonstration of the N8 supporting an USB memory stick.
Also, the Tab will have a dock that has a keyboard, so it's not totally impossible for it to have USB host capabilities.
AnttiV said:
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong (as I don't have the device in question) but doesn't the Nokia N8/E7 support just that? I seem to remember a video demonstration of the N8 supporting an USB memory stick.
Also, the Tab will have a dock that has a keyboard, so it's not totally impossible for it to have USB host capabilities.
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I don't know about the N8, sadly I just don't have much interest in that part of the mobile space. However, some googling seems to indicate that it is possible (news articles say so) but I don't know if its naitive or needs hacking.
As for the keyboard and stuff, thats a good point. I can't see them using a non-usb standard for that, so it must just be the proprietary connector that makes the difference. In that case, all we should need is a Tab-USB connector, and a few drivers. That would really give the tab some muscle.
In general can mobile devices support the USB min-harddrives ? The ones that power from the port ? If thats possible then the tab will kick serious ass. 250 gigs in your pocket for cheaper than a microSD card.
I'm not really a fan of Nokia's products either, although they USED to make great products they haven't done so in awhile. And I *hate* Symbian. Anyways, at least the N8 DOES have some USB Host capabilities:
"Among the Nokia N8's neater tricks is its support for USB On-The-Go, which basically lets you connect USB peripherals (flash drives, for example) to the phone and have it act as a host..."
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/30/nokia-n8s-usb-on-the-go-support-demoed-lesser-phones-turned-in/
That was almost perfectly offtopic, sorry for that ^_^
Oh, or not, perhaps! Look what I JUST found:
"USB Standard port adapter
With this kit your Galaxy Tab becomes a standard USB port. With this USB port you can synchronize your digital camera or other devices."
http://www.oled-display.net/more-sa...s-bluetooth-pen-standard-usb-adapter-and-more
Well if they are going to officially make an adapter then maybe we are going to get USB Host... I can't see how you could transfer things off a digicam without the Tab hosting it as a drive.
Well... This looks pretty awesome then.
But they *CAN* cripple the functionality to just mass-storage devices or perhaps just cameras, like Apple did with their USB Camera connection kit, or whatever it was called.
Let's just hope that Samsung doesn't go that route.
Hopefully samsung aren't that stupid Although in theory we should be able to hack it back open anyway, and its a good start at least.
Sorry to resurrect this old thread, but I'm also wondering about usb host (or at least OTG) on the Tab (as I'm considering buying on to port Meego to).
Could someone who has the keyboard doc post the dmesg output once it's been plugged in please?
From some dmesg output I saw elsewhere (but not with the keyboard dock), it appears that the USB chipset is an OTG version, and seeing it act in host mode with the keyboard doc plugged in would be a nice confirmation.
I Would be interested to see the anser for this one.
Yes it is launched (mainly for photographers) i have seen it's price, very cool cheap at £10000 plus something!
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It's not the Fools Day yet, so keep your jokes at bay.
OK, I just ordered a keyboard dock and I'll have a look. I'll post a dmesg output and open it to see if the PCB is marked in any way.
According to the pinout (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9925838) there seems to be no other way for data to flow apart from USB.
So one of the following must (should) be true:
1. Samsung is reusing the pins for a proprietary protocol -probably reconfiguring the device by pulling up or down other pins.
2. The device is capable of host/OTG mode but it is probably unpowered and it probably needs a pin pull-up/pull-down to enable.
3. The keyboard is using unidentified pins, and the USB pins are used simply for the PC connection and power.
Does anyone know if the keyboard acts as a proper dock? i.e. when you connect it to the pc does it work at the same time as (say) KIES or drive mount?
Just a quick update, the keyboard was just shipped, and I should have it by Tuesday.
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Hi,
Just wondering whether you got any further with this?
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There was a problem with my order (the company didn't have any in stock) and the keyboard hasn't arrived yet. Still waiting!
I'll post the moment it arrives.
EDIT: Normally I would name and shame the company, but they are sending me a couple of freebies for their mistake so I'm happy
USB host
This is a good concept. I have an Archos 70 and a Galaxy tab. Archos has a micro usb port with which I connected my USB host adapter and the key board and mouse works . Flash drive and router dongle says more power required. So I am looking for a powered USB connector for this.
Unfortunately, Galaxy tab has different cable and I dont know if I can find a host cable for this. Any suggestion?
Worth a shot?
After reading this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9925838
I checked the G-Tab pinout :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDMI
and tried to ground pin 13 to put the tab in host mode last night... needless to say since I'm typing this on my computer... epic fail. However, I'm curious if anyone else has had any success with this.
I'm not too much of a fan of buying something to destroy... but if I have to disassemble a dock to get the pinout for monitor mode... suck!
Anyone have any advice as to what I jacked up here?
Hey!
This is my first thread I've ever created, so don't be too harsh on me
As far as I know, the new Android 10 includes a so called "desktop mode". So you can connect a compatible device via USB to an external screen. I think thats pretty cool and samsung already implemented this idea from the S8 upwards with Samsung Dex.
I understand that this needs USB 3.1, but the Motorola G7 Plus only has USB 2.0!
According to the datasheet of the build-in Snapdragon 636 processor, it does support USB 3.1!
So here comes the question: Is it possible to "activate" the required functionality in order to use the desktop mode?
So like changing a few things inside the root files (Like you can activate for example OTG)?
If not, is the hardware build that way, that it just doesn't have the data-lines?
And also, if all of that doesn't work, you surely saw such USB 2.0 to HDMI adapter, which do work on older computers, but do they might work with Android 10 connected to otg?
It would be really cool if something of that might work.
Thanks for your response!
TimTheDev said:
Hey!
This is my first thread I've ever created, so don't be too harsh on me
As far as I know, the new Android 10 includes a so called "desktop mode". So you can connect a compatible device via USB to an external screen. I think thats pretty cool and samsung already implemented this idea from the S8 upwards with Samsung Dex.
I understand that this needs USB 3.1, but the Motorola G7 Plus only has USB 2.0!
According to the datasheet of the build-in Snapdragon 636 processor, it does support USB 3.1!
So here comes the question: Is it possible to "activate" the required functionality in order to use the desktop mode?
So like changing a few things inside the root files (Like you can activate for example OTG)?
If not, is the hardware build that way, that it just doesn't have the data-lines?
And also, if all of that doesn't work, you surely saw such USB 2.0 to HDMI adapter, which do work on older computers, but do they might work with Android 10 connected to otg?
It would be really cool if something of that might work.
Thanks for your response!
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Unfortunately this device does not support MHL so usb to HDMI dongles do not work. Apparently moto hasn't supported MHL for some time .
digitaljeff said:
Unfortunately this device does not support MHL so usb to HDMI dongles do not work. Apparently moto hasn't supported MHL for some time .
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Thanks for your answer. But I knew that before. I am trying to finde some "workarounds" for this, because I do really like this phone!
Found a solution
So, after a bit of research, I found a solution to add external screens to any OTG compatible Android phone!
There are so called "DisplayLink adapters" and those seem to be compatible with any Android phone that supports OTG.
After installing the official app "DisplayLink Presenter", you should be able to get everything working.
I din't tested it yet, but I hope that this will help someone in the future.