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Im just trying to find out what rooting the device will buy me...since I sideload apk files anyway...I know with rooting I can eventually get the Google play on the device...I'd like to hear from those that rooted it, what else it brought to the table. Because of all the bricked units and the bootloader being locked...Im a little nervous to do it..especially when I see one user successfully rooted it..only to have the screen come up blank a few days later..any input or feedback would be greatly appreciated....
If you follow all the directions right in rooting your device. Then you should not need to worry. If you have experience then you should be fine. Root gives you access to all system files. The reason people are getting brick is cause they mess with the system files. We do not fully know what all the files are for yet. So you just need to be careful. Root gives access to a completely different launcher keyboards. There are many topics on what you can do.
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Just two things for example:
without root you can't use any other launcher except the amazon one
and can't use international keyboards.
Other things like backups, optimizing your device.. are not so critical
kashei said:
Just two things for example:
without root you can't use any other launcher except the amazon one
and can't use international keyboards.
Other things like backups, optimizing your device.. are not so critical
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Not entirely true. Without root, you are limited to the number of launchers that will work. And with those that DO work, tapping the home soft button brings up the default Amazon UI. But you CAN use a launcher different than Amazon's.
I'm using ADW Launcher EX on a full stock unrooted KFHD. I like the flexibility of having access to both interfaces. I have decided that I won't root it until there is a foolproof way to prevent Amazon from forcing a subsequent update that would undo root.
WillysJeepMan said:
I have decided that I won't root it until there is a foolproof way to prevent Amazon from forcing a subsequent update that would undo root.
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is there a way to disable or freeze the component responsible for update downloading?
or to disable communication with update server?
kashei said:
is there a way to disable or freeze the component responsible for update downloading?
or to disable communication with update server?
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Another post says remove OTACERTS.ZIP
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kashei said:
is there a way to disable or freeze the component responsible for update downloading?
or to disable communication with update server?
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maybe even use hosts to set all of Amazons servers to 127.0.0.1
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I´m done with rooting
I root my KFHD as i get it out of the box; then get an ota update, lost root, root again, another ota, and another root and son on and on...
Since the google play market remains usable after lost the root privileges, i don't intend to root again; i live in mexico so i cant afford to brick my kindle fire.
The only apps screwed after lost the root where google maps and youtube; i got them in system/apps and disappear after the update, side loaded they dont log in, they need the google login service apk found in this forum, and after a reboot the login fine.
I dont care for backgrounds, widgets or alternate launchers; i just need to launch my games and apps on the superb screen of my KFHD and the amazon launcher does just that.
until someone breaks the bootloader...
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Hello, i just got my first smartphone, i have AT&T and i didnt want an iphone and was more drawn toward andriod, so i got a captivate. I would really like to do alot of the things in the "Pimp my captivate" guide but i have some questions first.
1.) If i root the phone, and take off the bloatware, will i still get updates if i go to the check for updates in settings? (ex. like the gps fix and froyo update someday).
2.) Its not going to subtract any features from the phone is it ? (ex. the google syncing and everything will still work? Basically is the rooting process and or bloatware removal going to change the way the phone works besides the programs those being gone?
Ill admit i'm an andriod phone hacking noob, but i do know computers well and programming and have altered other devices in the past.
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I would like to know this as well.
stihl29 said:
1.) If i root the phone, and take off the bloatware, will i still get updates if i go to the check for updates in settings? (ex. like the gps fix and froyo update someday).
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Since no updates have come down yet, I don't think anyone is sure of the answer to this. Keep in mind that it's a good idea to make backups of the app APKs on your sdcard before you remove them (just in case you want to reinstall them).
stihl29 said:
2.) Its not going to subtract any features from the phone is it ? (ex. the google syncing and everything will still work? Basically is the rooting process and or bloatware removal going to change the way the phone works besides the programs those being gone?
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Removing AT&T's crappy apps won't affect the phone negatively at all. They simply won't be there, so you can't use them (if you find them useful). The only app that I can think of you may want to keep is the AT&T Hot Spots app so you phone can use free AT&T wifi at locations such as Starbucks.
Yes, you will still get updates as long as you do not install a custom ROM. (Rooting is ok).
The only functionality that will be removed will be that of the apps you delete
Thank you so much this clears up alot of the things I've been wondering.
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Rooting issues
I have tried everything I have found online. The superuser icon is there. I have downloaded several apps that require the device to be rooted. I turned on usb debugging, and turned it off. I've downloaded update.zip several times.
I'm not entirely a noob when it comes to tweaking phones. I flashed roms on windows mobile and performed all sorts of modifications I got off this site.
I have the superuser icon. I downloaded titanium. Titanium says it installed busybox. I downloaded the separate busybox app from the market. That app has a popup saying that a nand unlock is necessary for the app to work. When I run it in spite of the popup, it says the device is rooted, but can't find busybox. A whoami command in adb will indicate that I'm not. I went though adb to reinstall busybox. But whenever I try to run any significant commands (eg su) it gives me a permission denied error. Googling permission denied gives me a myraid of possible causes, but it seems I'm getting far afield. I just want to get rid of the bloatware for now.
Is there another program to root this thing? Did I just miss something incredibly obvious?
hello, I recently just rooted this beast, and was wondering when, why, and how often i should clear out the dalvic cache
kamots said:
hello, I recently just rooted this beast, and was wondering when, why, and how often i should clear out the dalvic cache
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You shouldn't ever need to unless you are installing a ROM that requires it. the Dalvik Cache is the Java VM that Android Runs on and it does a very good job of keeping itself cleared. It does lots of Garbage collection on its own.
gotcha! thank you
Just noticed the app z4root in the Market. It claims one-click rooting and unrooting of various devices, among them the Galaxy S. Search of the Galaxy Tab boards didn't turn up anything. Is this safe and recommended for the Tab?
Used it myself and it went smoothly. Far smoother than previous rooting methods I had to use on other devices.
Thanks, I was too timid to try it without someone confirming it first.
I can now also confirm that it works fine. Went very smoothly, took about 1 minute and a reboot.
It seems like such an odd way to root for me. My first experience of rooting was a HTC Legend. I had to downgrade the software (one complete wipe and flashing of firmware) and then flash a rooted update. And I still don't have proper write access to the /system partition. It took about half an hour to root the Legend, this took 2 minutes, and I didn't loose any data. Awesome!
Noob Question (first adroid device I've had) : So, what are the benefits of rooting the tab? Removing pre-installed samsung apps?
Ah...I found a nice article..so that's the only way I can remove the stupid Vodafone booting / shutting down image?
Can confirm, rooted the tab yesterday with this and after that run the OCLF, now the Tab works like a Charm.
Garret said:
Noob Question (first adroid device I've had) : So, what are the benefits of rooting the tab? Removing pre-installed samsung apps?
Ah...I found a nice article..so that's the only way I can remove the stupid Vodafone booting / shutting down image?
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My favorite advantage: Running AdFree, which very effectively blocks most ads, in the browser and also inside other apps.
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My favorite advantage: Running AdFree, which very effectively blocks most ads, in the browser and also inside other apps.
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It's the only reason I rooted this thing.
Garret said:
Noob Question (first adroid device I've had) : So, what are the benefits of rooting the tab? Removing pre-installed samsung apps?
Ah...I found a nice article..so that's the only way I can remove the stupid Vodafone booting / shutting down image?
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from noob to noob - to be able do things that manufacturer doesnt think of - adfree, clock synch, interface mods, changing the way memory works (get rid of stacking lags).. all in all improve things that in retail are sold to you and a "new" model))
And i know for sure
- 1)dont do anything before reading stuff here
- 2)if you dont know that you need it - dont do it
- 3)dont do things until you know exactly how to undo them unless you are looking for pretexts to buy yourself a new device.
sorry for this lecture)
Router thanks. Good informations.
I would like to root my SGT because I need CIFS access to my network share directories, in my Windows network. I found some prgs in the Market, but they need 'root rights'. So here I am. I will use this root app.
A question for you (you seem experienced) about the correct procedure to reinstall apps already installed after a root procedure:
1. Do an AppBrain Syncronize
2. Launch Root (Z4root)
3. Install the AppBrain app again and then connect to my AppBrain account to 'restore' apps?
Is it correct my idea?
that is correct, its not like the root we do when rooting and android phone like my evo, you can actuall run the z4root the run and install that program
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My favorite advantage: Running AdFree, which very effectively blocks most ads, in the browser and also inside other apps.
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...and Droid Wall, to prevent applications from accessing the web "unnecessarily"
that was easy and painless. nice, full root
I've found that I loose root occasionally, any idea why?
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Seems to work.
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from noob to noob - to be able do things that manufacturer doesnt think of - adfree, clock synch, interface mods, changing the way memory works (get rid of stacking lags).. all in all improve things that in retail are sold to you and a "new" model))
And i know for sure
- 1)dont do anything before reading stuff here
- 2)if you dont know that you need it - dont do it
- 3)dont do things until you know exactly how to undo them unless you are looking for pretexts to buy yourself a new device.
sorry for this lecture)
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Well, for starters I'd like to get rid of the very annoying vodafone booting / shutting down images.
If I could also remove some pre-installed apps, that'd be nice too ^^
recovery
Does this root give a recovery image?
kevinniven said:
Does this root give a recovery image?
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No. As far as I'm aware we don't have a recovery image.
Swyped from my Galaxy Tab
sts_fin said:
Can confirm, rooted the tab yesterday with this and after that run the OCLF, now the Tab works like a Charm.
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When you ran OCLF, what was the amount of RAM you selected, I think by default it shows somewhere around 846 odd..
Used it myself and it went smoothly. Far smoother than previous rooting methods I had to use on other devices.
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Another way to disable apps is to use Titanium backups "freeze" or the "disable" with adb. Both prevents the app from running BUT leaves it intact and give you a possibility to restore all apps with a hard reset.
Here is a guide from Paul at Modaco:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809231
Basically its use adb to run a PM command:
pm disable com.Apps.apps (change the file name to the apk you want to disable.
Note: titanium "freeze" do same thing
Your link is destroyed, how's the right one?
PatSend said:
Your link is destroyed, how's the right one?
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Fixed (hopefully)
I noticed that freezing using titanium takes a while... It just reports 'freezing...' and seems to hang there (after terminating and restarting the apk appears as frozen though).
Anyone with similar issues?
I can recommend SystemApp Remover, cheap nice UI installer/remover/disabler/backup app for your system apps, works very fine.
Can you disable the icon for alarm and call log and still get access to these in the call-app and the clock-app?
Anyone know this?
Hi, i just got my 2x and i‘m very new to this process, but does anyone know if you can do this with a temporary root then have your phone reboot with the apps still frozen? I‘m reluctant to void my warranty without a good reason e.e custom gingerbread ROM‘s, thanks in advance for any replies
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Hi, i just got my 2x and i‘m very new to this process, but does anyone know if you can do this with a temporary root then have your phone reboot with the apps still frozen? I‘m reluctant to void my warranty without a good reason e.e custom gingerbread ROM‘s, thanks in advance for any replies
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Not really sure, but with root you dont really have to be carefull for waranty issues. You can very easily unroot your phone with SuperOneClick root and there won't be any trace left
Thank you for such a quick reply, i think i‘ll attempt it with a temp root and if it doesn't work i‘ll root it permanently since i will be flashing ROM‘s to it in the future.
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The app disabling is not "linked" to the rooting process.
If you disable apps using a temproot they will stay disabled until you factory reset the phone or re-enable them.
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Can you disable the icon for alarm and call log and still get access to these in the call-app and the clock-app?
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I tried, and it didn't work. Anyone know if it is possible to get rid of those two icons from the app drawer?
Just a word of warning: if you freeze some important apps and do a factory reset (using default recovery) you will probably get stuck on boot animation or beyond.
That is what I did. I froze LG Home using AntTek App Manager, then did a factory reset without unfreezing it and I was stuck after the first Setup Wizard. I had to reflash the phone using NVflash.
Bloat Freezer is free on the market and works much the same way as titanium for freezing apps
Hey Guys,
I recently rooted my Kindle Fire HD and installed Go Launcher onto it and everything was going perfectly. I then installed Google service and Google Play store which worked perfectly too but this seems to have triggered a Kindle Fire update which now seems to have removed Go Launcher from my kindle...although I can see that the apk file for it is still present. I was wondering if this means that my Kindle Fire has somehow un-rooted itself or if I just need to install Go Launcher again? I am a little baffled as to which way to proceed next, I could re-root but don't want to unless necessary since it is risky and I dont know the affect of re-rooted a machine.
Thanks,
Emmz
I did the same (rooting, play store, go launcher) and i didn't have an update and i still have root.
If i were you, i would first find out if the root-rights on your device really disappeared. For example you could use the ES File manager to find it out. Check if the root-settings in ES are set respectively can be set.
Did you install the go launcher correctly as described in the forum? Copy the apk to /system/apps, set the permissions and install it from there. Be careful!! Everything you do is at your own risk! Read the related thread before you start.
Good luck!
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just reroot it would be my suggestion, update gets rid of root but ive read in some instances where people were still able to use their launchers too tho. i havent received an update yet but after i rooted mine, i renamed the otacerts.zip file to otacerts.zip.bak and i also checked that ota keeper box in superuser.
As others have said, OTA updates will unroot the device, and anything else you may have moved to the system folder will also be removed. This usually means launchers and the Vending.apk for Google Play too. It's safe to root again and reinstall your apk. This situation happened to me twice (OTA'd one day, and a few days later, another surprise OTA), and I've already rooted again and reinstalled my launcher.
So just now I got the new 7.2.2 update. Lost root too. I will test qemuroot and see how it goes.
Let me know as well. I lost rot but market and Swype still work. I did not even notice this thing restart.
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I got the update but still got the root
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7.2.2 Lost Root
This morning I was attempting to get my wallpaper picker working and ES File explorer wouldn't let me copy into system/apps. qemuroot fails with copying /data/local.prop
I was just starting to like this hunk of crap.
lost root too after the update. have tried qemu tool but that did not work.
step 2 -exploiting
/system/bin/sh: cannot create. /data/local.prop: permission denied
rebooting
i also noticed that the /data folder is empty. is there any solution to re-rooting this device?
thanks for your help
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I lost root also but I still have my launcher with widgets and play store loads up. Wasn't able to root with qemu tool. I can navigate outside the sdcard folder but have read only access. So far I haven't noticed any issues with existing programs after losing root.
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cannot create /data/local.prop
Same issue here.
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lost root too after the update. have tried qemu tool but that did not work.
step 2 -exploiting
/system/bin/sh: cannot create. /data/local.prop: permission denied
rebooting
i also noticed that the /data folder is empty. is there any solution to re-rooting this device?
thanks for your help
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On the other hand, the update did bring the swype keyboard and the new freetime thing. I hope this one can be rooted. It was a neat update since swype and other keyboards don't really work in landscape.
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On the other hand, the update did bring the swype keyboard and the new freetime thing. I hope this one can be rooted. It was a neat update since swype and other keyboards don't really work in landscape.
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And I'm loving the new keyboard so far too. The thing I hate about the update though is that without root ADW Launcher is not recognized as a system application any more so it can't be bound to the home button and set as a default launcher. Also I can't add widgets on the desktop for some reason.
Otherwise the system is pretty much OK providing you have google play previously installed. But we really need the root back for all the newcomers that want market and customize the device.
same issue here
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same issue here
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Me too. Just got it usable (from Norway) and then the 7.2.2 came...
I did not get the update until now. Looks like renaming otacerts.zip really prevents the update?
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7.2.2 Flu
Got hit myself. Neither Qemu or Bin4ry's Root w/restore were successful at restoring root. I'll just sulk with my stock Kindle until you frightfully clever fellows beat this one, too.
i root my kfhd last night and i was trying to install google play and boom!! autoupdate works and 7.2.2 came root lost :crying:
Got the update to 7.2.2 last night, didn't get swype KB, which would have been great as the stock KB is a dog, lost root as did everyone, ES still says i have root access but "I don't" desperately awaiting a tool to regain root, that said I've still got Play Store, and Go launcher is still my default launcher, so it's not the end of the world. what we really need is a cracked bootloader and custom roms to take control of what could have been a really nice tool.
Meh, I got this second kindle for my mom as a Christmas present, was planning on spending the day rooting and installing stuff
What are the chances that someone will come up with a work around before the 24th?
I need time to set everything up for her, debating on returning this to get a nexus7 or galaxy
Also trapped in closet. Hope 7.2.2 is rootable! Thanks ayaxxa for the tip with renaming otacerts.zip.
My root has gone!
I just rooted today an was installing google play store actually was pushing the apk to the kindle HD and when I noticed that it couldnt send it an was restarting !!!! after that i see the update logo!!!!! hate amazon ! Hope somebody can find the re root procedure guys!
Ouch just got this in the mail today and it has 7.2.2 already. Just my luck seems to be having wifi issues too... Well at least I won the darn thing
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jgemelli said:
Ouch just got this in the mail today and it has 7.2.2 already. Just my luck seems to be having wifi issues too... Well at least I won the darn thing
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hi are we all getting same thing. online and unknown when you start kfu