If I will use chainfire on o2x the games will look like on e.g. galaxy s2 or I don't know like on adreno gpu's ? I mean asphalt 7 isn't looking like it suposed to be....and If I will use chainfire it will look better and no lag?
nvidia gefore ulp gpu is really underpowered. and gameloft doesnt optimise for tegra. so yeah nothing can be done about it
so chainfire 3d will not work?if I will use qualcomm plugin?
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as stated in the title.. what does that term means?
its associated with the htc diamond
recently am looking at games like call of duty and tony hawk proskater 2, both having 3d graphics that are able to use the GPU on board the Pocket pc..
but does the diamond truly has GPU? is it powerful? and does it enhance 3d gaming performances?
i tried call of duty2.. its not really pretty... i do rmb installing the hardware accelerated copy of COD2
did anyone try this yet?
http://www.gameloft.com/android-games/modern-combat-2-black-pegasus/
its one of the best 3d games i ever played on android, my desire HD is running it blazing fast
however gameloft downgraded the graphics for the qualcomm version, it seems gameloft decided to give priority to the hummingbird devices
compared to the galaxy S version, it lacks reflections on the weapons, character shadows, a blur effect when hit by bullets and maybe more stuff
i don't understand why gameloft keep releasing the same version for both the old snapdragon and 2nd gen snapdragon devices
seeing how crazy fast the frame rate is running on the DHD, its obvious the adreno 205 can do much more
hamdir said:
did anyone try this yet?
http://www.gameloft.com/android-games/modern-combat-2-black-pegasus/
its one of the best 3d games i ever played on android, my desire HD is running it blazing fast
however gameloft downgraded the graphics for the qualcomm version, it seems gameloft decided to give priority to the hummingbird devices
compared to the galaxy S version, it lacks reflections on the weapons, character shadows, a blur effect when hit by bullets and maybe more stuff
i don't understand why gameloft keep releasing the same version for both the old snapdragon and 2nd gen snapdragon devices
seeing how crazy fast the frame rate is running on the DHD, its obvious the adreno 205 can do much more
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i have this game too its great, but gameloft have reasons for that, adreno cant shift half as many polygons as the powervr in the galaxy series, just look at ashpalt 5, even the DHD can only just run it with minimal slowdown, but the galaxy version looks amazing with reflections on the cars and more realistic tarmac, and powervr runs it with no hickups at all. i like my DHD though, if i wanted to play games that badly, id just fire up my xbox
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i have this game too its great, but gameloft have reasons for that, adreno cant shift half as many polygons as the powervr in the galaxy series, just look at ashpalt 5, even the DHD can only just run it with minimal slowdown, but the galaxy version looks amazing with reflections on the cars and more realistic tarmac, and powervr runs it with no hickups at all. i like my DHD though, if i wanted to play games that badly, id just fire up my xbox
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i dont agree about asphalt 5 the dhd runs all gameloft games at very high frame rates, modern combat 2 is running at 60fps without a hiccup once
but i didnt know even asphalt is downgraded in terms of effects
my point is adreno 205 is quit capable and samsung figures about the power vr chipset are not accurate
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i dont agree about asphalt 5 the dhd runs all gameloft games at very high frame rates, modern combat 2 is running at 60fps without a hiccup once
but i didnt know even asphalt is downgraded in terms of effects
my point is adreno 205 is quit capable and samsung figures about the power vr chipset are not accurate
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its not just gameloft games, for example the galaxy s verson of NFS Shift looks amazing compared to the snapdragon version. it doesnt help that devs can't be arsed making better looking games for our version of adreno, they just make a snapdragon version. so ours our dumbed down so the desire and evo can play them
exactly my point, adreno was much improved with model 205, but i don't see gameloft bothering
by the way NFS can be hacked to play in high resolution
someone posted the hack a while ago in this forum, i tried it and it really works
maybe we can mix the galaxy S gameloft games with the snapdragon ones the same way
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exactly my point, adreno was much improved with model 205, but i don't see gameloft bothering
by the way NFS can be hacked to play in high resolution
someone posted the hack a while ago in this forum, i tried it and it really works
maybe we can mix the galaxy S gameloft games with the snapdragon ones the same way
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omap cpu's like the hummingbird use diffrent textures dont they
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omap cpu's like the hummingbird use diffrent textures dont they
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yes Motorola has their version from gameloft or at least its own SD cache
I am going to buy a new smartphone in couple of days.
For the first time i thought of buying Neo V because of its design and bravia engine display with large screen for gaming[ Ray would be little bit small to hold in both hands for gaming so dropped it ].
But,
Now i am confused to choose which phone to buy after seeing Galaxy S even though its on old model it has the same stand in the market.
I actually want to buy smartphone for HD gaming from gameloft and nonGL.
Which mobile supports all HD games
So please tell me which one should i buy....?
I have the SGS (Samsung Galaxy S) and it's a very good phone!
Anyway, for HD gaming is not too good... I don't have the Neo V, but checking the specs I can tell that it ain't very good neither.
I would recommend you to get a Xperia Play ( If you want your smatphone for gaming), is Cheaper than the SGS and has a better GPU.
The good thing about the SGS is that it has a lot of attention from the community (that means a lot of custom ROMs).
If you can get the money get a SGS2 or a Galaxy Nexus.
Cheers
For gaming, Galaxy S has PowerVR SGX 540 graphics is probably one of the best low priced android phones for gaming since iPhone has PowerVR SGX 535 graphics . Because games are natively coded and optimized for PowerVR GPUs, there is none of that "porting" thingie needed to be done.
That means the games are stable, fast and efficient when running on PowerVR graphics. There isn't "lost in quality" as much as regular ports, that unless you're playing it on a HD TV via TV out. Otherwise, WVGA is the limitation to that.
Neo V has Adreno 205, a non-powervr chip and is relativity slower than PowerVR SGX 540. So I wouldn't recommend that for gaming.
what about galaxy r i9103
Nvidia Tegra 2 AP20H
Dual-core 1 GHz Cortex-A9
ULP GeForce
1 GB RAM
I dont know, but if you play so much your battery will be down in 2-3h
Xperia play probably would be good, but the custom rom side of things is a bit of a barren wasteground compared to over here on the SGS forum. There are only 1-2 custom roms that are any good.
Had very mixed results with converting my own PSX games with psxperia, but the dedicated hardware controller is soooo much better than a on-screen one
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what about galaxy r i9103
Nvidia Tegra 2 AP20H
Dual-core 1 GHz Cortex-A9
ULP GeForce
1 GB RAM
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As far as I know, Tegra 2 shares many of the similarities to PowerVR architecture. Some graphically intensive games are also optimized for this particular chip and are listed THD.
Lets sum up the pluses:
1) Similar architecture
2)THD optimized games enabling extra detail for ULV Geforce GPUs
So why not?
I have't fooled with the tegra plugins. I'm not a gamer, but was wondering if the plugin brings any other attributes other than the games? Does it get you a higher score in quadrant? Does it improve the browser experience? I'm hoping someone has already done the research and can just tell me?
From my understanding, chainfire 3d only fixes compatibility with OpenGL apps. I suppose if an OpenGL game were optimized for a particular gpu but works with all gpus, chainfire could improve performance if you used the particular gpu plugin the game was optimized for.
I didnt think it would make a diff. I just thought id ask. Thanks for the info.
Why Asphalt 7 and Need For Speed Most Wanted's graphics are minimal? no blur no reflection....nothing...why? I'm reading the comments on market and averibody says that the game grate graphics but on my tegra 2 phone (optimus 2x) nothing special....these games are not optimized for tegra 2 powered devices or what?
As much as I hate to say this about our phone, the Optimus 2X among the dual cores holds one of the weakest graphics processors.
Sure, when it first came out it was a beast of a phone both in terms of CPU and GPU. However, once other brands caught up in the battle, it was quite clear that Tegra 2 was the least proficient in graphics.
Funny how you'd expect a company like Nvidia that specialises in GPU units to make the best GPUs in any area, especially smartphones. However, even Tegra 3, while still powerful in its own right, is still vastly overshadowed by the GPUs on the other quad core devices.
You probably see "Tegra optimised" because of Nvidia's marketing attempts to compensate for their weak processors. It's becoming increasingly common knowledge that in smartphones, Nvidia have been useless in upholding their reputation built from computer GPUs.
ilooze said:
Why Asphalt 7 and Need For Speed Most Wanted's graphics are minimal? no blur no reflection....nothing...why? I'm reading the comments on market and averibody says that the game grate graphics but on my tegra 2 phone (optimus 2x) nothing special....these games are not optimized for tegra 2 powered devices or what?
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NEON instruction set missing. Simple as that.
The optimus 2x has a good gpu
new cm10 nightly Nenamark 2 = 44 fps with new gpu Driver no oc and old and the prime has 47fps is not bad
and other games like death Trigger runs on tegra 3 setings fluid
and the games are not full suport the tegra gpu well
Nootubo said:
The optimus 2x has a good gpu
new cm10 nightly Nenamark 2 = 44 fps with new gpu Driver no oc and old and the prime has 47fps is not bad
and other games like death Trigger runs on tegra 3 setings fluid
and the games are not full suport the tegra gpu well
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yes that is weird why dead trigger and shadowgun can run at high details? and those other games not?
petr.klos said:
NEON instruction set missing. Simple as that.
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Oh god what an utter utter facepalm...
NEON has NOTHING to do with graphics. Lack of NEON is why our phone can't play high-profile 1080p not the reason of bad graphics.
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Nootubo said:
The optimus 2x has a good gpu
new cm10 nightly Nenamark 2 = 44 fps with new gpu Driver no oc and old and the prime has 47fps is not bad
and other games like death Trigger runs on tegra 3 setings fluid
and the games are not full suport the tegra gpu well
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what new gpu drivers are you using? do you installed chainfire?
The thing is that games are often optimized for PowerVR sgx (as ported from Iphone) and adreno and mali.
Tegra2 has minimal part is whole graphic cards so why dev has to waste time for such ****ty gpu?
kaspar737 said:
Oh god what an utter utter facepalm...
NEON has NOTHING to do with graphics. Lack of NEON is why our phone can't play high-profile 1080p not the reason of bad graphics.
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Well... well... not really.
What an utter overreaction Truth is that NEON handles AV decoding encoding and linking it to a frames. So yes, in fact it has an impact.
Overreaction cause mostly it is because in settings T2/P990 is recognized as low-end device.
petr.klos said:
Well... well... not really.
What an utter overreaction Truth is that NEON handles AV decoding encoding and linking it to a frames. So yes, in fact it has an impact.
Overreaction cause mostly it is because in settings T2/P990 is recognized as low-end device.
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Please, explain to me how something that decodes audio and video files helps in games?
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Nvidia creates one of the best lp gpu,even mali in s2 no compition for o2x gpu, but the real fact is the t2 is kicked by its own creator, to priortised t3 or next tegra version ,lg under repute its previou gen phone due to thr lame developer and nvidia support.
In return other phones+new phone roll out and here we are whinning and criticizing our gpu:thumbdown:
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is there a way to improve the graphics in asphalt7 n nfs most wanted??? has anyone tried chainfire3d??
rom-cm10
ullekh99 said:
is there a way to improve the graphics in asphalt7 n nfs most wanted??? has anyone tried chainfire3d??
rom-cm10
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I tried but it doesn't let me to install it.....in cmw i get an error and if i install the drivers normally the phone wont boot up....so make a backup first
seriousia said:
Nvidia creates one of the best lp gpu,even mali in s2 no compition for o2x gpu, but the real fact is the t2 is kicked by its own creator, to priortised t3 or next tegra version ,lg under repute its previou gen phone due to thr lame developer and nvidia support.
In return other phones+new phone roll out and here we are whinning and criticizing our gpu:thumbdown:
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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No, GS2 GPU is faster. The Tegra GPUs are actually a pain in the ass to code for if nVidia doesn't offer support. Devs have to split graphics processing onto 8 or 12 cores. The situation is quite similar with PS3 CPU, where devs also have to split graphics processing onto 7 different cores.
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Gameloft doesn't make this game available on tegra 2 i mean their's no proper game files specifically for tegra 2 only unlike in adreno, mali and other gpu beside tegra they provide separate files for those gpu's so if you want to play great games on your o2x please first search on google for tegra 2 sd files of the game you want like bard's tale there is a specific file for our gpu and as expected its size is incredibly big 3gb
Our gpu is powerful if nvidia let the developers play with their codes i think users not only praise the developer but they praise for nvidia also for this creation in my own opinion
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grimmyrippy said:
Gameloft doesn't make this game available on tegra 2 i mean their's no proper game files specifically for tegra 2 only unlike in adreno, mali and other gpu beside tegra they provide separate files for those gpu's so if you want to play great games on your o2x please first search on google for tegra 2 sd files of the game you want like bard's tale there is a specific file for our gpu and as expected its size is incredibly big 3gb
Our gpu is powerful if nvidia let the developers play with their codes i think users not only praise the developer but they praise for nvidia also for this creation in my own opinion
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I agree with you, with good optimization great results can be achieved on Tegra GPUs. Its like on the PS3. When devs are money hungry they make crappy ports but when a dev invests time and money awesome games can be made (for example, Uncharted and The Last of Us)
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I"m confused by Electronic Arts.
I have an old single-core Motorola Defy + and on it that other racing game Fast5 from Gameloft runs superfluid with real-time reflections.
Now why in the hell does EA opt to choose for minimal graphics on my and other phones.
Imho it"S better to have an adjustible slider to have settings from low to max graphics on the new need for Speed on Android.
The same with Riptide by Vektor Unit.
Let people choose for themselfs dammit.
hey guys!
Did you tried out "Dead Trigger" from the Tegrazone website?
Just instal it (free!), go to options and put graphic quality to max and BE AMAZED!
why from tegrazone website.. u can download it from play store for free...
btw sorry for offtopic but does tegrazone app work for u'll...it used to work for me wen i bought my phone... but has not been working since almost a yr..says no network?? had forgotten about it but now remembered coz of mention of tegrazone website
cheveux_ said:
hey guys!
Did you tried out "Dead Trigger" from the Tegrazone website?
Just instal it (free!), go to options and put graphic quality to max and BE AMAZED!
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yes! that is why I am angry about this phone.....dead trigger and shadowgun have quality settings....and the o2x can handle it...so the developers of EA or GLU or Gameloft why they dont make games look excelent on our phone?