Very bricked kindle fire hd - 7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all noob on this forum.. A friend had his kindle fire hd replaced by Amazon. He gav m the on that was replaced but it is absolutely dead. I have a factory cable from a motorola which i thought may help. but there is absolutely no reponse from the kindle. i assume that it is beyond the pale. griend said it had been in demo mode. he used the kfu, got it into fastboot but he had not, read the warnings on here. and lo and behold th kfhd is demised. i there any point holding on to it or shall i just ebay it for spares?
thanks for any comments . (constructive more so) but laughter is an acknowledged reponse.
omniac

Well took the back off just to have a look somebody obviously been in before. The connector for the red and black cables was broken. The copper foil had obviously been disturbed. Was going to try the usb short trick but does not look like the thumbnail in the picture so not sure which bit to short. Will keep searching to see if there is an answer somewhere.
omniac

Did you reconnect the red and black cable? If not try reconnecting the wire and then try your fastboot cable if you get the fast boot screen then you can just go to the thread about the system image restore tool and follow the instructions. I brick my kondle hd and got it back with the tool. I only had one problem doing this i made my own cable and windows didnt recognize my device. So i unplug the fastboot cable while still in fast boot and just conected my kindle usb cable and re setup drivers. Then i just followed the instructions for the restore tool
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Reconnected cables, still no life from the little beast. Does get warm just above the charging port on the back of the kindle.

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[Q] Download Mode Unaccessable - Jig doesn't work

I've scoured this site as well as many other sites and have not found a solution.
i phone is in a soft brick state - phone--!--computer
and i cant find a way to get in to recovery or download mode...
what i've tried:
3button combo - and every permutation of buttons and usb plug ins and battery inserts
home made jig - made with resistors and a multimeter reading of 301k ohms
One-Click unbrick - cant find device perpetually prompts to reinstall drivers
Heimdall one-click 1.3.0 - connects then prompts to install drivers to Samsung USB Composite Device (successful) then repeats process... (did not check box bootloaders)
Super one click - stops responding after waiting for device
Odin3 - cant find device
I've run out of ideas... is anyone else having problems with this?
What else is there that i can do???
the phone to pc screen means a jig or 3 button combo will work (if you have 3 button fix).
try again with jig or order a professional jig.
Homemade jigs are a pain in the ass. Did you wrap them in tape where you're holding them so not to throw off the resistance? It may take a while for you to get them touching the correct pins. That screen means soft brick. Try Heimdall again, that can take a few times. Did you install the drivers for Heimdall? Keep trying because you're only soft bricked. Jig or Heimdall unbrick should work. What were you doing to your phone when this happenned? What ROM is currently on your device? What were you ettempting to do?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944418
This has recovered me from many soft bricks
Only thing I can say is Isolate your fingers from the resistors, make sure your connecting the correct pins and give it a few seconds for the phone to register the jig. (also it might take a min or 2 for your comp to recognize your phone)
If you happen to be on KF1 then you very well might be in DL mode, because they have written in that if that err notice is triggered it will still show even if booted by a jig. You might have to work a lil on your timing.
Also, you can't use ODIN and Heimdall from the same physical USB port on the PC. These drivers are dealing with low level function and are less flexable, so make note of which "com port" hemidall is using and find another for ODIN. Also be picky about which USB port as there seems to be a major difference between ports that are hardwired/built-in to the PC motherboard and others connected by wire. Lastly make sure your using a "good" cable as this has been a problem for many.
The connect reconnect loop makes me think you have a bad cable (really only bad for samsung phones cuz well... samsung).
I've never had a problem with my home made jig. It saved my a$$ on more then one occasion. I did have one problem with flashing GB bootloader, but then I realized that I could still flash with odin.
What phone version do you have (marked under your battery)?
i have sgh-I896
but under "IC" it says SGHI897 ???
My jig manages to turn it on no problem... it just goes to the phone--!--computer thing though..
Edit: I made my jig on a piece of solder board, and i connect them to pin 4 and 5... closest ones to 3.5m jack
Try to run Odin or hemidall after you plug the jig in. I recovered a 7" galaxy tab when it was at the phone! computer screen.
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laxwillsch said:
Try to run Odin or hemidall after you plug the jig in. I recovered a 7" galaxy tab when it was at the phone! computer screen.
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I used my jig to turn on my Captivate, wile showing the phone--!--computer logos i plugged in my usb.
my computer recognized it and i opened Heimdall.
It connected and i pressed flash... it then gets stuck on Handshaking loke...
it stays like this for hours.... i left it on over night and all during work...
could it be my usb cord?? its a samsung
Edit: OMG!! its working now... moved usb to behind my computer then used One-Click unbrick.
Thank you all very much
Hey the One Click unbrick detected ur phone in the phone----!---- PC screen? Bcz i have the same problem than u, 3 keys comb were allways locked, my pc cant find the phone and i cant use the ADB commands for get in download, i made a jig and nothing (i think that i did something wrong), i bought one but have to w8 about 5 days more to get it in my hands. I will try connecting my phone in all the usb ports now..
Yea bad usb port seems to be the culprit. Always go with a usb off the motherboard. Jig will always work if the screen turns on.
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TBStar88 said:
i have sgh-I896
but under "IC" it says SGHI897 ???
My jig manages to turn it on no problem... it just goes to the phone--!--computer thing though..
Edit: I made my jig on a piece of solder board, and i connect them to pin 4 and 5... closest ones to 3.5m jack
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this has happened to me as well. as long as u install the heimdall drivers you can get around that. i have my heimdall.exe in my c: in downloads. i open up my cmd prompt then type cd\ then press enter to get to the c:. then i put downloads\heimdall close-pc-screen after that as long as u have all ur drivers installed it should boot right up.
I ended upo bricking my phone pretty bad today. Everything I tried is not working and all I'm left with now is to wait for my USB jig to come in which I purchased off eBay. I really hope it works.
^^^ How u manage to do that......? post some more details.
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usb jig question

I just cut up a random white micro usb cord but out of all the videos and guides I've read I have yet to come across and wire layout like this one.
On the flat side of the usb it has the red on the left, and the black on the right. On the rounded side, green is on the left and white is on the right. on both sides there is one aluminum wire. Which one do I connect the resistors to?
I'm unable to hyper link so just copy this. Its a pic of the micro usb
just delete the spaces
http ://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls3nnmkLg01qzrb4jo1_500 .jpg
Can you get a better picture?
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So I finally got my jig in. so it goes in to boot mode which is awesome, but odin still won't recognize the phone. I've tried 3 different computers.
Make sure that you have the correct drivers if you are on Windows...if you are on Mac make sure you have your phone connected to a powered usb...if you are on Linux, well it should work.
Note: also make sure you always open ODIN first and then plug your phone.
good luck.
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mentalchaos03 said:
So I finally got my jig in. so it goes in to boot mode which is awesome, but odin still won't recognize the phone. I've tried 3 different computers.
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Right click and run Odin as administrator first (as posted above).
Also, in addition to what is stated in the previous post, u may want to try a different micro usb cable. And be sure to connect the usb end of that cable into a port in the back of ur computer or if ur using a laptop, then connect into the first port.

[Q] Phone Completely Unresponsive

So, I tried to update my Captivate to Gingerbread via Kies to prep it for CM10, and it hung on the 'Firmware Upgrade' Eventually, I pulled the plug and tried the 'Emergency Recovery' That ended up hanging too. And now my phone is completely unresponsive.
I don't see the Computer-- >Phone icon, I can't boot into download mode, nothing, just a black screen.
I tried pulling the battery, sim card, etc. and nothing. Plugging it into the wall also has zero noticeable effect. Am I SOL or is there some hope of resurrecting this beast?
If a Jig doesn't put ya in Download mode...then it sounds like u need the assistance of someone like mobiletechvideos.com
Check out my sig link below for links on how to make a jig and or where to buy one.
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I don't think a jig will work, I get zero response from plugging in a USB cable. I'll look into the JTAG stuff. Or hope the Nexus 4 is back in stock sooner than later!
Thanks for the info.
straytoaster said:
I don't think a jig will work, I get zero response from plugging in a USB cable. I'll look into the JTAG stuff. Or hope the Nexus 4 is back in stock sooner than later!
Thanks for the info.
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As long as your phone is charged, a jig might work. You don't need to be getting response from your phone for it to work.
JTAG is last resort but if ever needed, mobiletechvideos .com offers it.
My phone also dead like yours. No signs of life., jig works for me

[Q] Hard-bricked KFHD 7" Anyone can help?

Recently I've got Amazon Kindle Fire HD 7"
It comes at 11.3.2.1 stock rom, which still have not root exploit.
Guided by useful Gran PC's post, i've rooted this device, and boot to normal mode ok.
After that, I decide to flash CM 10 from this thread
After step 5, device going to reboot, but never wakes up again. Nothing happends when I press power, long or short.
I sure i've checked all md5, device was fully charged, I use working fastboot cable.
Anyway, I've got my KFHD7 hard bricked.
There nothing at all: device not detected on USB bus (dmesg say nothing), does not show anything on screen.
I know there is a way to recover such a dead devices by reflashing them. I read same topic for unbrick KF2 and realize that is not a hard work.
So, I open my kindle and discover that:
* CPU unit works (heat a little) till I disconnect battery.
* Flash (data storage + controller) implemented at SanDisk SDIN8DE4-16G chip dataseet avaliable
* chip has low work pin count, but BGA packaging, so it hard to remove&install
* There is 6 test pads near this iNAND chip (this can be DAT0..DAT3 + CMD + CLK signals) + 1 test pin near (image attached)
* There is unsoldered: debug connector (5 pins), reset button pad, USB boot button pad
I soldered MMC side of reader, but not pretty sure which pins I should choose at board.
6 pads near NAND may be MMC interface, I take big photo(attached), but signs are illegible.
Look like names: TP1486, TP1487.
Two pins have 1.8V when device powered: 1st and 5th from left to right, others have 0.
Anyone have information about:
* This nand chip reading via SD card adopter (it's implements MMC, i'm pretty sure it's possible)
* Test pin pads pinout and MMC pinout
* Using debug/usb boot to recover
PS: I have oscill/soldering station/exp/microcontrollers to work, but additional information required.
PPS: Latest thing I want to do is rebolling this chip (e.g removing&installing).
You flashed a ROM for Tate... Tate is the 2012 kindle fire hd. The 2013 bootloader is still locked. Your device might be ruined.
Sent from my Kindle Fire HD 7 running PAC-man
Kurohyou has done work like what you are attempting, but on his method he usually sacrificed the first board by unsoldering the emmc and the finding what pads were matched with the emmc pins so we could do the sdcard hookup. Hasn't mapped them out on a 7” 2013 or 2013, but he did map them out on a 8.9, so if it is in anyway similar boardwise, the. Take a look at his unbricking thread for 8.9" devices, it might lend some clues to soldering pads, also might short something out faik since it is not the same device.
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Just for future information, 8.9 topic lies here, but board looks pretty different (KF2 boardtoo).
So, maybe I try to repeat Kurohyou heroic study
I'm waiting for a free day to take action...
I've done the same misstake
Do you have any new ideas?
Enwony said:
Recently I've got Amazon Kindle Fire HD 7"
It comes at 11.3.2.1 stock rom, which still have not root exploit.
Guided by useful Gran PC's post, i've rooted this device, and boot to normal mode ok.
After that, I decide to flash CM 10 from this thread
After step 5, device going to reboot, but never wakes up again. Nothing happends when I press power, long or short.
I sure i've checked all md5, device was fully charged, I use working fastboot cable.
Anyway, I've got my KFHD7 hard bricked.
There nothing at all: device not detected on USB bus (dmesg say nothing), does not show anything on screen.
I know there is a way to recover such a dead devices by reflashing them. I read same topic for unbrick KF2 and realize that is not a hard work.
So, I open my kindle and discover that:
* CPU unit works (heat a little) till I disconnect battery.
* Flash (data storage + controller) implemented at SanDisk SDIN8DE4-16G chip dataseet avaliable
* chip has low work pin count, but BGA packaging, so it hard to remove&install
* There is 6 test pads near this iNAND chip (this can be DAT0..DAT3 + CMD + CLK signals) + 1 test pin near (image attached)
* There is unsoldered: debug connector (5 pins), reset button pad, USB boot button pad
I soldered MMC side of reader, but not pretty sure which pins I should choose at board.
6 pads near NAND may be MMC interface, I take big photo(attached), but signs are illegible.
Look like names: TP1486, TP1487.
Two pins have 1.8V when device powered: 1st and 5th from left to right, others have 0.
Anyone have information about:
* This nand chip reading via SD card adopter (it's implements MMC, i'm pretty sure it's possible)
* Test pin pads pinout and MMC pinout
* Using debug/usb boot to recover
PS: I have oscill/soldering station/exp/microcontrollers to work, but additional information required.
PPS: Latest thing I want to do is rebolling this chip (e.g removing&installing).
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Coincidentally Gran PC is currently developing a tool which can restore your kindle to stock firmare (unbrick it), root it and install a recovery. its preety sweet and he's planning to release it around tomorrow. just saw this thread so id thought id give you a heads up my kindle's bricked too, so i cant wait for the release. link below.
https://plus.google.com/114394427275904523996/posts/PSjSm1LVBNi
That fixes soft bricks... Not hard bricks...
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im in the same boat. tried to contact Kurohyou to see if he was able to work out a fix or even sacifice mine for the greater good. havnt heard any thing from him yet. stunts513 any ideas?
Eh I really don't want to be the one to try to map the pins out. I probably could assuming I have the emmc pin pattern handy and my mom let's me borrow her toaster oven. I have the tools handy but the kindle would be taking a one way trip to permabrick. I doubt I could resolder the emmc, much less test out if I got the pinout correct since I don't have a USB sdcard reader handy or any small gauge wire that below 24 gauge.
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stunts513 said:
That fixes soft bricks... Not hard bricks...
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oops sorry, my bad
stunts513 said:
Eh I really don't want to be the one to try to map the pins out. I probably could assuming I have the emmc pin pattern handy and my mom let's me borrow her toaster oven. I have the tools handy but the kindle would be taking a one way trip to permabrick. I doubt I could resolder the emmc, much less test out if I got the pinout correct since I don't have a USB sdcard reader handy or any small gauge wire that below 24 gauge.
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i would be willing to send you my board if you wanted to try to map it out. if it gets ruined, it gets ruined. i willing to sacrifice mine for the betterment of the commuity. mine might be and easier hardbrick to fix. it doesnt turn on but if you plug it in, the screen gives a quick flashs before it goes black. makes me think i could get it into fastboot. ive tried with no luck.
MMC pinout
Last weekend I just cheked MMC pinout - it's looks like I can reach data pins without resoldering and guess/check where they go (hope that would be test pins).
Unfortunately, I had no time to deal with it, maybe next weekend.
Enwony said:
Last weekend I just cheked MMC pinout - it's looks like I can reach data pins without resoldering and guess/check where they go (hope that would be test pins).
Unfortunately, I had no time to deal with it, maybe next weekend.
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good deal. hope you can get it. thanks for the hard work.
Ah good, saves me from having to map it. xD
It's more that I haven't ever unsoldered a chip like the emmc before so I don't wanna mess something up when someone donates a board to the cause, would be a bit of a waste. Most of the soldering I do deals with normal components and wiring.
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would this work http://mascote.me/blog/2013/02/19/new-life-for-a-dead-kindle-fire-hd/
not sure on how to compile the program. seems like it worth a shot.
That only works on a kf1, not the HD, you would need a signed aboot file that only amazon has a won't release for that method to work.
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i was just want to know if the files he links to would work or how to compile them to work. i understand about the signed files. the board he shows if for the kfhd 7" 2012 model.
Well yes that part mentioned is true, we can stick it into the omap mode that that program detects, but that's about all we can do. I don't know the specifics, I'm just mentioning what I remember hashcode saying.
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gotach. only if we could do firekit on this model. get twrp working and side load the system back into it like on the kf1.
new information
Finally, I've got some time to explore this issue.
My first idea was that test pins shown related to sandisk flash.
Datasheet says that DAT0-DAT3 pins located at top-left side of chip and can be reached with small wire.
Unfortunatelly, this idea failed: there is no electrical contact between this test pins and sandisk flash.
So, I remove flash chip with ail soldering station, and track required signals.
Result picture attached (It's part of mainboard under main processor module). It's just test version, I do not check myself.
I do not look for power pin - I need to figure out, witch pin I should look for? External supply required? Should we disable internal supply? I need some investigation about this.
Anyway, there is a little step to win.

What Would You Do? Try and unbrick... or buy a cheap 2nd hand one???

I have a teensy problem. I flashed the wrong bootloader. Now, if I need a doorstop or booster seat, I'm grand, but as far apping it up browsing down, I think I'm finished. Here's the scoop:
Black screen, no logo
Will not switch on
Not recognized on device manager
I've a factory cable, have tried kindle fire first aide, kindle fire utility, and kindle unbrick v1.1 but none prevailed. Always 'waiting for device'.
A little context for your amusement: The kindle was a hand-me-down from a friend for xmas who's upgraded, and is constantly asking me how I'm doing with it? 'Oh, yeah, I LOVE it. Adore it. Can't be parted from it. I especially like the part where the cable clicks in sweetly, then the silence, and then me yelling and spitting in frustration. Because I bricked it. But yeah, love it, thanks.' By heck, do I suck.
So really, do I keep banging my head against a wall, or do I just get a second hand one off ebay? I'm loathe to start taking the back off and short stuff out.
Go on... do your worst....

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