Can you fry the phone doing so, and is there really much speed increase?
I still havent fried my G1, im running the latest sensehero and using bill cui overclock widget. I did notice a little change in speed
My phone has been overclocked for about 11 months.
Nuff said.
It's physically impossible for apps changing the clock speed to damage the phone because they don't clock the chip faster than it's advertised speed or change the voltage. The chip is factory clocked at ~175mhz to save battery life, so the chip is simply re-clocked to 528MHz (which it can run at all the time with no problems).
does overclocking kill the battery faster?
Yes (10 char)
I use set cpu for overclocking. It has nice exceptions list for better battery life
it cant fry your CPU because your never actually over clocking it, the CPU max is 528Mhz.... so your just clocking it, but by the time your CPU is done on your phone you will probably have smashed the screen or dropped it in water or gotten a nexus one so it wont have any real affect on your phone
Hello,
I just flashed Cronos 1.2 last night, and after overclocking to 1GHz(62vsel), I noticed that my battery felm warm.
This morning the temperature had jumped up to 38C, but is presently at 34C. I used to run around 28C on CM7 and am wondering if these temps are normal? Should I downgrade my O/C to 900MHz?
Thanks in advance!
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38C is definitely fine.
When i surf the web using 3G network, it is always 37C+
you can set a tempature profile using setCPU to lower the clock speed if temp. is high
You can edit /system/etc/init.d/10overclock using ROOT Explorer to change the speed to max 900Mhz. Also try to lower the vsel in the 10overclock file, it saves a lot of battery life
Right now, my overclock is set at 1GHz, with a 62 vsel. I have a stable overclock file from FroyoMod 2.6.0, that would save me a lot of battery life and it was clocked at 900MHz, just curious as to what are normal temperatures are, I'm used to sub-30C on normal browsing
I generally try to keep my battery from going any higher than 32 when browsing the 'net, but I did notice that on higher vsels it got hotter. I wouldn't call it dangerous, but remember that the more you're draining the battery, the faster it'll die. I don't mean lose its charge, I mean it just won't hold a charge any more. Lithium Ion batteries are rated for 500 charges, so if you need to charge the phone once a day, you'll be out of a battery in a year and a half.
If it reaches 40+ I would start to worry, though. The difference from 900 MHz at 52 vsel and 1 GHz at 62 vsel doesn't warrant using, in my opinion.
It looks like the spike to 38C was a random spike, because right now it is anywhere from 32-34C, so I think it might have just been one spike that made the phone get really hot!
I also think that the milestone is getting really hot. I think thats kind of annoying
Well right now I have mine at 29, sitting idle with EDGE turned on.
During the day time I've seen it going from 32 to 34.
With HSDPA and Wifi Tether turned on, I've seen it went up to 54.
That is my experience.. and yes 54 is HOT... usually I just turn off tether for a while, until the temp drops to 40+ before I re-tether.
I had my other phone touchscreen spoiled because of the prolonged heat. Bad experience..
I have Samsung Galaxy ace overall this phone is really good ..but it lacks only in Battery backup .For watching movies ,listening to Music the default 1350 mAh battery works fine but as soon as i start using internet with 3g connection battery lasts only for 4-5 hrs ..so i wanted to know does 1500 mAh /1750 mAh battery works properly in Ace without any problems and how much battery backup i will get with it??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332445
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try this one it's really great http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GOLD-2430M...item2eb89962de
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try this one it's really great http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GOLD-2430M...item2eb89962de
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Are you using it?
High Battery not really good. You should buy more original battery and use a dock charge.
I use the Orginall Samsung 1500 mAh battery from the I5800
works perfect and is like the same from Ace
AlphaTime said:
I use the Orginall Samsung 1500 mAh battery from the I5800
works perfect and is like the same from Ace
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K bt wat abt the backup ... for how many hrs ur battery lasts if u watch- 2 youtube videos ,surf net for 1 hr in a day,and download 2apps from market with 3g connection???
And tell me whether Li-on
1500 mAh battery functions properly in
samsung galaxy ace S5830..
I mean are there any problems reported
like cell not functioning properly,or cell
phone getting overheated...if any plzzz let me know!!
Alphatime like they are not the same. You really can't fit i5800 battery into galaxy ace. Why would you claim such a thing?
Now for some useful information. The phone can be optimized to last long in standby mode, simply by turning off the data connection when not using it, and switching to 2G. You can let jucedefender do that for you, or APN access point to manualy turn connection on and off.
But what good is a smart phone in a standby mode? The moment you start using it for something like say playing games, you got 2 hours gaming on a full charge. Now that’s pathetic.
Here are some things you can do to keep CPU less busy.
Use bsplayer lite to watch movies. It uses hardware acceleration to decode videos. It will keep CPU consuming less than 150mW. Unlike other players that use software decoding and constantly hit cpu usage as high as 400mW. So you can get 5+ hours (depending on brightness settings) watching movies using bsplayer.
Generally browsers will remain under 150mW if you let them sit still, but the moment you start scrolling (CPU) or opening links (radio) the power consumption will peak. Now Opera mini seems to take least CPU power. Obviously turning on wifi and 3G will drain much faster. The best battery time can be achieved using the 2G network data connection together with opera mini. Opera mobile seems to have hardware acceleration but I yet have to test the power consumption.
Test the applications you frequently use. You can use the power tutor program to monitor power consumption and test your application.
I've found that some programs, even the simple book readers will just lock the CPU at 800MHz even if you let them stand still, doing nothing with constant 400mW drain. Uninstall such applications or use them for short periods.
Well games have a high CPU demand and subsequently power consumption, and there is nothing to do about that.
Basically you can get:
2-3 days in standby or,
2 hours of playing games, and using unoptimized applications or,
5+ hours using applications with good coding and or hardware acceleration.
Underclocking the CPU using setCPU has no effect, becouse optimized applications allready scale the cpu to 250mhz or 128mhz. And demanding applications will stutter when underclocked and won't consume much less power.
I've just ordered this 2430mah
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ecell-2430M...SBLI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1322668379&sr=8-3
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Alphatime like they are not the same. You really can't fit i5800 battery into galaxy ace. Why would you claim such a thing?
Now for some useful information. The phone can be optimized to last long in standby mode, simply by turning off the data connection when not using it, and switching to 2G. You can let jucedefender do that for you, or APN access point to manualy turn connection on and off.
But what good is a smart phone in a standby mode? The moment you start using it for something like say playing games, you got 2 hours gaming on a full charge. Now that’s pathetic.
Here are some things you can do to keep CPU less busy.
Use bsplayer lite to watch movies. It uses hardware acceleration to decode videos. It will keep CPU consuming less than 150mW. Unlike other players that use software decoding and constantly hit cpu usage as high as 400mW. So you can get 5+ hours (depending on brightness settings) watching movies using bsplayer.
Generally browsers will remain under 150mW if you let them sit still, but the moment you start scrolling (CPU) or opening links (radio) the power consumption will peak. Now Opera mini seems to take least CPU power. Obviously turning on wifi and 3G will drain much faster. The best battery time can be achieved using the 2G network data connection together with opera mini. Opera mobile seems to have hardware acceleration but I yet have to test the power consumption.
Test the applications you frequently use. You can use the power tutor program to monitor power consumption and test your application.
I've found that some programs, even the simple book readers will just lock the CPU at 800MHz even if you let them stand still, doing nothing with constant 400mW drain. Uninstall such applications or use them for short periods.
Well games have a high CPU demand and subsequently power consumption, and there is nothing to do about that.
Basically you can get:
2-3 days in standby or,
2 hours of playing games, and using unoptimized applications or,
5+ hours using applications with good coding and or hardware acceleration.
Underclocking the CPU using setCPU has no effect, becouse optimized applications allready scale the cpu to 250mhz or 128mhz. And demanding applications will stutter when underclocked and won't consume much less power.
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hey thnks for info...jst tell me whether Li-on 1500 mAh battery functions properly in samsung galaxy ace S5830..
I mean are there any problems reported like cell not functioning properly,or cell phone getting heated...if any plzzz let me know!!
All the measurements that ive made were done using official 1350 mah battery.
So using oem 1350 battery on a single charge you can get 5 hours of video using bsplayer or 4h using opera mini with wifi. I just dont play games on my samsung or use unoptimized applications and I get good battery life.
Currently there are no >1350mah batteries that can fit inside galaxy ace (S830). All these unofficial batteries that claim more capacity are a hoax (chinese 2400 really?).
If there will ever be a larger capacity battery, they will be sold together with a special back cover so that a much thicker battery can fit inside the samsung galaxy ace.
Cheers
zukae said:
All the measurements that ive made were done using official 1350 mah battery.
So using oem 1350 battery on a single charge you can get 5 hours of video using bsplayer or 4h using opera mini with wifi. I just dont play games on my samsung or use unoptimized applications and I get good battery life.
Currently there are no >1350mah batteries that can fit inside galaxy ace (S830). All these unofficial batteries that claim more capacity are a hoax (chinese 2400 really?).
If there will ever be a larger capacity battery, they will be sold together with a special back cover so that a much thicker battery can fit inside the samsung galaxy ace.
Cheers
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Ok, then my 2430mAh hoax battery lasts longer than my stock battery. And it's not chinese, it's japanese. It's not a small difference I'm really happy with my hoax! With stock it lasts 30-35 hours normal usage, with new battery there was 59 hours.
Kmarci provide a link for this japanese battery.
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Kmarci provide a link for this japanese battery.
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viewitem.eim.ebay.hu/GOLD-2430MAH-BATTERY-FOR-SAMSUNG-GALAXY-ACE-S5830/200665555678/item
That's it. It says: made in Japan. You won't have to believe it, but it's really good. I use it, and it's better, then the stock.
kmarci said:
Ok, then my 2430mAh hoax battery lasts longer than my stock battery. And it's not chinese, it's japanese. It's not a small difference I'm really happy with my hoax! With stock it lasts 30-35 hours normal usage, with new battery there was 59 hours.
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Guys my ? Was does 1500 mAh li-on battery functions properly in, samsung galaxy ace S5830 ...can anybody plz give me a appropriate answer!!
Just received my 2430 mah battery, MUCH longer lasting battery life very happy for only £13.
alex ainsley said:
Just received my 2430 mah battery, MUCH longer lasting battery life very happy for only £13.
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Yes, that's it, same as my experience.
This particular gold 2430 battery, has a faulty or missing temperature sensor. This means it can charge to a somewhat higher capacity, but never actually 2430mah.
The capacity of 2430mah would mean an energy density of 900W/L. Now currently the record breaking panasonic lithium ion battery has a denisty of 650W/L
The good thing about a temperature sensor is that its actually a failsafe mechanism keeping the battery from not exploding.
So try to keep your phone on a cold place while charging and away from flamable stuff.
And even if its made in Japan I somehow suspect that the Chinese have to do something with the faulty temperature senzor.
Cheers.
Well My ace doesn't get very hot anyway so I'm not worried
I should get it lol...
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Kinda disappointed. With froyo, I was able to constantly get a score of 2500, now I'm barely getting 2100. I noticed the cpu score is what really went down. Anyone else notice?
Better battery life less power consumption. Sounds right to me.
What's the lowest has anyone been able to under volt the Moto X? I just tried -75 mV set globally and I haven't had any bad experiences so far.
My question is why? Not many reports of overheating on the X and that's all undervolting is good for?
You won't notice any battery life increase. That's a nasty myth.
I'm at -125mv for 384 and -100mv for 486. Then 50 or 75 for the remainder. Have noticed absolutely no battery life difference. I'd be careful with -75 with overclocked frequencies if you're using faux ultimate kernel. I can't do more than-25mv at 1.944.
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My question is why? Not many reports of overheating on the X and that's all undervolting is good for?
You won't notice any battery life increase. That's a nasty myth.
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your statement is a myth. it doesn't improve dramatically but nonetheless it helps. when I undervolt I am more looking for my CPU to stay cooler these add longevity and not letting the battery heat up as much. out of all my undervolted phones, there was a noticeable improvement on my galaxy nexus with battery life and heat. my note3 isn't dramatic, but I do notice my phone rarely gets above warm now. and depending on the bin of your chip, your undervolt can have more desirable effects if you have a great bin. my moto x had a 3 out 4 bin but I never flashed a custom kernel. my HTC one m8 has a bin of 9 out of 16. decent. but the guys who 13 and 15 bins should get great undervolt. undervolting is worth it. adds longevity to the battery itself the less it heats up.
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your statement is a myth. it doesn't improve dramatically but nonetheless it helps. when I undervolt I am more looking for my CPU to stay cooler these add longevity and not letting the battery heat up as much. out of all my undervolted phones, there was a noticeable improvement on my galaxy nexus with battery life and heat. my note3 isn't dramatic, but I do notice my phone rarely gets above warm now. and depending on the bin of your chip, your undervolt can have more desirable effects if you have a great bin. my moto x had a 3 out 4 bin but I never flashed a custom kernel. my HTC one m8 has a bin of 9 out of 16. decent. but the guys who 13 and 15 bins should get great undervolt. undervolting is worth it. adds longevity to the battery itself the less it heats up.
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Pretty sure I mentioned it keeps heat down.
And I could have posted a huge long reply the first time....but "generally", undervolting to improve battery life is barking up the wrong tree. YES it should have minor improvement....but not anywhere near what some people hope when they do it.
At best you may gain a couple total hours and maybe 20, 30 minutes screen time.....if you tweak other kernel settings as well??? Hopefully we can agree on that. And to me, the possible instability from guys pushing the limits is not at all worth those small battery savings.
As far as longevity of the battery.....all I know is my oldest device is 3 years old...and battery life is as good as it was when I got it. But sure, it might help.
Heavy gamers or anyone with heat issues....yes....undervolting will help.
Guys with "bad" battery life.....you will at best go from "bad" to "still pretty bad".