[Q] Dear god, why is audio over bluetooth so terrible?? - HD7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Just replaced my worn out Dell Venue Pro with an HD7 I bought off ebay. I love it, except I just discovered bluetooth audio from the HD7 is disgraceful. Sounds like a 64kbps mp3 but worse... The highs are all garbled and weird. This is a major deal breaker for me as I really love the convenience of using bluetooth to stream audio to my car receiver.
My Venue Pro sounded wonderful over bluetooth, so I know it's not my receiver. Is this a hardware limitation? Is there anything I can do to fix this? If not, it's gonna find itself back on ebay...

Figured it out. Turns out HTC has the A2DP bitpool set ridiculously low in the registry, resulting in highly compressed audio. I'm guessing it's either really big oversight, or they did it to insure compatibility with various headsets. After installing a custom ROM and editing the appropriate values in the registry, Bluetooth now sounds as good as wired!
Loving my HD7!

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Advice Req'd: Streaming audio to bluetooth device (Jawbone)

Dear all,
I have searched high and low for the answer to this on the forums, but can't find anything suitable using the terms A2DP, Jawbone, Bluetooth, Streaming Audio.
I have recently purchased a Jawbone bluetooth headset for my HTC Kaiser. It works perfectly well in the "Hands free" service, but I can't find a service for "Headset" in order to play back audio from Windows Media Player. I would like to listen to podcasts on the way to work/gym/car/walk and also handle my phonecalls using the existing "Hands free" service.
I'm using the Dutty's WM 6.1 ROM, based in the UK, using T-Mobile.
Can anyone advise me on what I need to do in order to stream audio directly to my Jawbone bluetooth earpiece?
Many thanks in advance for your advice!
Buy a Jabra 8040...had the jawbone and its horrid compared to this. Music streams great and the audio is awesome.
Hi sirooga,
I appreciate that you like the Jabra, I've seen one and wasn't that impressed. The Jawbone today has been working very well in all my tests - air conditioning, music, even a construction site can't be heard by my caller. It's so light I can hardly tell it's there.
In any case, I've been messing around with the registry after installing Voice Commander 1.6 and noticed that I'm getting streaming sound to my earpiece. Not sure what I did. I'm going to see if I can break it and refix
I have made a quick review of the Jawbone I received today here: http://blog.evolvedsoftwarestudios....se-introducing-the-jawbone-bluetooth-headset/
I hope this is useful for other Kaiser users.
rofl, if you wanted a headset that stream music to you headset then you should have gotten a2dp headphones. you can however, redirect audio from you ppc to the headset, look at Menneisyys in the wiki, there's something in there somewhere about redirecting sound to a mono headset. i dont see the point of doing that though, the sound quality on the headset profile is just not good enough for music.........just go buy a2dp headphones

Crappy sound with bluetooth earphones.

I'm using Jabra 3030 and I'm getting really crappy sound. If I use the standard earphones, everything sounds great.
I read somewhere that an alternative music player would solve the problem, but nope. Sounds just as bad.
Has this got anything to do with audio booster?
Is there a walkaround to this problem?
Isn't there anyone who has a solution to this problem?
I bought a Jabra 3030 this saturday: Getting it exchanged due to excessive background noise.
It is noise you have too? If so, there is nothing wrong with the phone, its the crappy 3030 as other phones and even a laptop does the same. I've tested with a DS-200 and it sounds as good as wired buds.
There are some registry tweaks that greatly improve BT audio.
Under HKLM\Software\ Microsoft\Bluetooth \A2DP\Settings , remove the "MaxSupportedBitPool" and "BitPool" entries.
As usual, don't touch your registry if you are not sure, and keep a backup just in case...
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/cms/blogs/3/wm6_aamp_microsoft_bluetooth_a2dp_stereo
No, i think it's the lack of bass that makes the sound so bad.
That's why I thought of audio booster.
When I'm watching movies the sound is ok, but my metal sounds blah.
I don't think the problem lies in the Jabra device.
Renewing topi. Does anybody have any idea how to enable AudioBooster on BT headphones? It is disabled unless you connect normal headphones. Hopefully there is an option in reg somwhere to do it....
Why not just try a player that has a built in pre-amp????
- CorePlayer
- SRS WOW
That would solve your problem - if lack of bass is the problem. At least it would be a good (and quick) test.

Bad quality sound on Bluetooth Music streaming

I always had my HTC Tilt 2 playing music in my car through bluetooth. Now with my new HD7 I noticed the sound quality is very bad. It sounds like its streams at a low bit rate so all the high frequencies create crackling distorted. Overall sound doesn't have any richness to it. I use the BlackBerry Remote Stereo Bluetooth Gateway: http://www.amazon.com/BlackBerry-Re...M0/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1289972227&sr=8-11. The quality of the Tilt 2 paired up with it was really good. I think they need to fix this pronto.
Yeh I have the same problem too, its exactly the same if I use 3.5mm jack aux too, just far too quiet, causes so much distortion, neither bluetooth or 3.5mm sound any better. If you put headphones in you can tell there isnt enough volume at all.
Really needs fixing, seems more of a software issues as I've seen people with various WP7 models complaining about low volume.
Right now I'm having to use my old Touch Pro for audio streaming in the car.
Mine sounds great through headphones and car stereo (BT).
In the car I prefer the sound to my iPhone 3GS through BT and line out.
And the volume is loud enough using Ultimate Ears 5vi IEMs with plenty if bass
Enable the SRS Surround
Sound quality is always in the ear of the beholder, so difficult to fully compare what people consider good or bad.
I find the internal speaker, headphones and line-out (via 3.5mm) too quiet. Quality seems ok from the 3.5mm jack though.
But I tested the BT recently and at high volume it didn't sound very good on a beefy car stereo (with sub). I was disappointed, but had no basis for comparison at the time.
I have this issue too. I'm using the Sony DRBT140Q. The audio sounds perfect when connected to my G1 and Sennheiser BTD-300. But when connected to the HD7 the sound turns kind of...fuzzy on the mids. Gonna go try out other HD7s at the T-mobile store and see if it's a problem with my handset.
I also have this issue. With wired headphones the sound is OK, but with bluetooth audio the sound is bad. I tested it with a jabra BT3030 and with a SonyEricsson MW600. The sound is good with both Headsets when they are connected to my notebook.
HTC are not known for good blutooth support, I was hoping they would get their act together with this phone.
3.5 jack is fine, but bluetooth quality is aweful! was fine on the HD2.
On BT, the bass and mids are ok, but the highs are terrible, they are really crackly/distorted. You can get away with it on dance, because its not too noticable, but in Rock music, it just sounds ****e.
Mujja said:
Enable the SRS Surround
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If you have the phoned paired via Bluetooth Sound Enhancer makes no difference to the sound whatsoever. Even if connecting to 3.5mm and using sound enhancer it sounds terrible in my car.
Think I'm just gonna have to carry on using my Touch Pro 2 until something is changed with the volume. I just think there isnt enough, you have it too loud its distorted so you turn it down and then turn the radio up but its no better because you get a lot of hiss etc.
If your listening though AUX make sure all the sound enhancements are off, they make it sound terrible. They only make an improvement through the phone speaker.
They dont affect bluetooth at all though.
So is anyone going to fix this?
I have Mozart 7 and fits the same description as previously said :
Bad audio quality when connected with Bluetooth headset (Sony Ericsson MW600)
(crackled/distorted, a low pitch noise at the background, sounds like interference from other things) - ive tried it on everywhere its the same
sounds perfect when its wire connected
This is making me really angry since i got this Bluetooth together with my mozart 7!!!
Can we notify anyone about this in particular??
I have the same problem. Bad quality when streaming via bluetooth to my car radio. With my HD2 and Windows Mobile 6.5 I had exactly the same problem for which there were registry hacks to improve this. Do you think the same registry entries still exist on Windows Phone 7?
Bluetooth audio quality FIXED!!
Ok guys here it is. I figured out how to improve the Bluetooth music streaming quality.
1. Your device must be unlock to do this. Even if your device relocks it doesn’t matter.
2. After unlocking device download and install the XAP file RegistryEditor 1.1.0.0. This is a registry Editor for WP7.
3. Once you have the RegistryEditor 1.1.0.0. on your phone do the following registry hack:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\A2 DP\Settings]
"Bit Pool"= change Value data to 51.
As I suspected the problem was in the sample rate settings. After I did the hack it sounded beautiful and at full sample rate. Some people don’t have the ear to catch the difference. I like to think I have a very good ear for this sort of thing. Being a musician and aspiring sound designer. I listen to all my music in the car through Bluetooth stereo gateway so I rely on this Bluetooth functionality 100%. Here is an example of the “Value data” number translated to sample rate.
Medium Quality
Bit Pool=35, Sample Rate=44.1 kHz = 229 kb/s
Bit Pool=33, Sample Rate=48 kHz = 237 kb/s
High Quality
Bit Pool=53, Sample Rate=44.1 kHz = 328 kb/s
Bit Pool=51, Sample Rate=48 kHz = 345 kb/s
Last Note: Even if you cannot unlock your phone anymore it won’t matter. As long as you gain access to that registry and change it. Unless you do a hard reset or Windows update you will need to repeat the process or unless Microsoft slaps their head about this issue before they release that update.
Wow that sounds like a plausible solution!!
Has anyone else tried it yet? Im still considering whether to hack my phone or not.
Try it. You wont regret it.
It works! did it last night and music was perfect in the car this morning! so happy now!
Just need a reg hack that allows me to download big files from the marketplace through my own 3G signal and not wifi now and ill be very very happy!
Also set "UseJointStereo" to 0 since one of the common joint stereo algorithm uses a lossy audio compression. BT Music sounds great with these changes!
What a difference
Thnx, sounds awesome.
toothfish said:
So is anyone going to fix this?
I have Mozart 7 and fits the same description as previously said :
Bad audio quality when connected with Bluetooth headset (Sony Ericsson MW600)
(crackled/distorted, a low pitch noise at the background, sounds like interference from other things) - ive tried it on everywhere its the same
sounds perfect when its wire connected
This is making me really angry since i got this Bluetooth together with my mozart 7!!!
Can we notify anyone about this in particular??
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i´ve the same headset and i noticed that srs-optimizing and dolby mobile is not working over bluetooth
also i cannot play forward
Verizon Trophy Fixed
Thanks for this fix! I finally got my Verizon Trophy fixed after
1. Trying to deploy RegistryEditor 1.1.0.0 only to get a deployment error
2. Trying to deploy RegistryEditor 1.2.0.0 only to get a deployment error
3. Editing the XML file in RegistryEditor 1.2.0.0, which successfully deployed the .xap but wouldn't actually let me edit the necessary values BitPool and UseJointStereo. I could change them in the editor, but as soon as I navigated away from the editor they would return to their defaults.
4. Attempted this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271963 only to be unable to run Connection Setup app
5. Completed this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271963&page=64 after about 10 iterations of trying to open the Connection Setup app at the exact moment described. I didn't think it would work, but it did.
So, in summary, in order to install a registry editor (1.2.0.0) AND have it edit the BitPool and UseJointStereo values on my student developer unlocked Verizon Trophy running official mango update, I had to do an interop unlock.
Took me a few days to sort through, but I'm so unbelievably happy with the result!

[Q] Bluetooth Audio Streaming A2DP Poor Quality

Hi Folks!
Recently got a bluetooth FM transmitter so i can go hands free in the car and use phones music player too
However the audio is very heavily compressed when using A2DP - no bass and the top end frequencies turn to mush - ie not good enough to use
Checked all eq settings and different FM frequencies, no difference
plugged the analogue audio cable direct from the phone to the bluetooth FM transmitter and immediately got perfect sound again
I dont see many poeple talking about this on this forum or many answers but the closest seems to be windows phones can access and modify registry settings to check and increase the bitrate
My current thinking is the bitrate (or bitpool) over bluetooth A2DP is set too low, or when the phone and FM transmitter pair the phone selects a bitrate that's too low for quality audio (but ok for calls)
My question is does anyone know how modify the bitpool settings on the Galaxy S please?
I am going to get a custom ROM and will very happy when the phone is really mine so if that's what it takes I'm up for it
Many many thanks!
DJ LIBRE
Samsung Galaxy S
2.1.1 Eclair on 3 mobile network in the UK
Nexus Drive Transmit Pro (Bluetooth FM transmitter music and hands free car kit)
I have the Galaxy S on 3 UK since August. I use the bluetooth to transmit sound to my Samsung surround sound system (as I don't own a stereo). I don't notice significant quality issues doing this. Are you sure both your devices are supporting A2DP. Not all A2DP devices talking nicely with each other, so you may be failing back to the normal Bluetooth frequencies which are more focus of the vocal range. I'm looking a car stereo's right now that support A2DP so I can stream my audio from my phone straight to my stereo, my phone is becoming the centre of my entertainment!!
I'm running Doc's ROM on my phone, can't recommend moving to his Froyo ROM's and an enhanced kernel enough, my phone is working so much better with his ROM, but there are lots out there to choose from.
I am using A2DP in my car too and I find the sound quality being very good.
The thing is, the default Android audio player (Music Player) is pretty poor and often it lags for me.
Since I moved to MiuiMusic (Search here) all those lags are gone and it works perfectly and smoothly in my car.
Now, as pointed already to you, all BT devices do not communicate flawlessly between each other sometimes...
works great for me, streaming from the SGS to the car CZ 509 deck
i don't even carry CDs in my car anymore
even the lovely sub base sound comes through clearly.
nothing better like a Sonic Massage meanwhile you are driving
I wanted to create a new thread on this, but then I've seen this one. Is there no one with a solution except flashing cyanogen?
It could be a setting on your bluetooth receiver.
For example, I've got a pair of Sony DR-BT21G bt stereo headphones. When you hold a special button combination, it switches it from "high quality" to "any quality", and will just select whatever bitrate it thinks is best, usually, something that sounds about half as good.
Try looking in your manual for troubleshooting and see if there are any settings that you can change on the receiver itself?
awojtas said:
It could be a setting on your bluetooth receiver.
For example, I've got a pair of Sony DR-BT21G bt stereo headphones. When you hold a special button combination, it switches it from "high quality" to "any quality", and will just select whatever bitrate it thinks is best, usually, something that sounds about half as good.
Try looking in your manual for troubleshooting and see if there are any settings that you can change on the receiver itself?
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Hmm, i using Sony MW600 BT headphones. I've checked the manual, but there's nothing about quality :/
But i dont think that's the problem anyway, as i tried Cyanogenmod and it got perfect quality then. But otherwise cyanogen is quite useless for me on my Galaxy S, its just too buggy. There must be someone who can change the bitpool quality on the stock gingerbread to the highest possible...
Exact same issue for me (as described by DJ LIBRE), I have a Belkin Wireless Bluetooth Music Receiver and the sound quality is horid... it's got nothing on AirPlay which I think is still kind of average quality!
I also wonder if there is a highbitrate setting that can be adjusted?
Running CyanogenMod Nightly #130 on SGS.
After getting used to listening to 24/96 FLAC's with the Voodoo Sound mod enabled with a custom built headphone amp and semi decent can's all I can say is BT Audio is a waste of time!
Has anyone noticed whether the music player was set to 5.1 surround mode? Had a similar issue where turning off the 5.1 fixed the sound streaming...

[Q] Audio and video out of synch when using Bluetooth - any suggestions?

Hello all.
I'm having problems with Bluetooth on my One. The device that I'm trying to use with it is called a Siemens MiniTek. (It's actually a hearing-aid accessory. You clip to the front of your shirt - it looks a bit like an MP3 player - and it plus my hearing aids together then function like a Bluetooth headset. So, when making a call, the sound is sent wirelessly to the hearing aids, and the device itself has a microphone on it.)
Making a call with it works okay; but if I try to use it to get audio out of my One in other conditions (playing a game, say, or watching downloaded video) then the video and audio are always badly out of synch - the sound lags at least one second behind the picture.
I'm using the stock HTC ROM, the latest one available in the UK (2.24.401.8).
Anyone have any thoughts as to why this might be happening and what I can do about it?
Mby there is too much data to deliver via bluetooth (high quality audi/video sound) and the hearing aid device is not meant to recive such a load.
When calling to some1, the sound quality is only like 24kbps or something.
Just a thought
Rendoqoz said:
Mby there is too much data to deliver via bluetooth (high quality audi/video sound) and the hearing aid device is not meant to recive such a load.
When calling to some1, the sound quality is only like 24kbps or something.
Just a thought
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That might result in there either being no sound at all or in the sound quality being very poor, but I don't see that it would result in reasonable-quality sound running 1 second behind the picture...?
The device itself is designed to handle fairly high quality sound: as well as receiving Bluetooth signals it can take analogue audio input via a 2.5mm stereo jack socket, and it also has a separate "base station" transmitter which you can plug into (say) the headphone socket of your TV: the transmitter then sends a signal wirelessly to the MiniTek (using a proprietary version of Bluetooth) and the MiniTek relays it to the hearing aids. Using either the direct-line input or the wireless transmitter works quite nicely, and there's no perceptible lag problem there.
I should have said, I've been onto Siemens tech support about it, and they're adamant that it shouldn't be doing this, and they don't know why it is. So I'm looking for a problem at the phone end.
Shasarak said:
I should have said, I've been onto Siemens tech support about it, and they're adamant that it shouldn't be doing this, and they don't know why it is. So I'm looking for a problem at the phone end.
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i've experienced the same issues on various BT-Receivers and Smartphones. Seems to be a general issue. So far, this 1 second lag was present on all combinations of:
Phones: Samsung Galaxy S2 / iPhone 4 / HTC One
Receivers: Creative D100 / Creative D200 / Belkin BT Adapter
As i found out so far, this problem occours when the receiver can't handle the apt-x codec and audio has to be resampled to the older SBC codec. Found one thread kinda dealing with this topic, but haven't tried it out for myself at the moment. I'll do some testing later when i'm at home.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256407

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