I've been waiting for the nexus 4 to back in stock for months in Australia and it still hasn't came out so I searched up some cheap phones with decent specs because I need a phone that will last me 2 years and this came up its about 350 with shipping brand new. How does this handle games I no tegra 3 isn't great but my nexus 7 handles most game with no lag and that's got the weaker tegra 3 so do they run without lag and how is the battery does it last all day because i can go 2 days without charging my xperia play and how come there's no dev support on this device I love to put custom ROMs and over clock my devices. So i need to no is it still worth it with all the new phones coming out and Is it the best in its price range
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I've been waiting for the nexus 4 to back in stock for months in Australia and it still hasn't came out so I searched up some cheap phones with decent specs because I need a phone that will last me 2 years and this came up its about 350 with shipping brand new. How does this handle games I no tegra 3 isn't great but my nexus 7 handles most game with no lag and that's got the weaker tegra 3 so do they run without lag and how is the battery does it last all day because i can go 2 days without charging my xperia play and how come there's no dev support on this device I love to put custom ROMs and over clock my devices. So i need to no is it still worth it with all the new phones coming out and Is it the best in its price range
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Sorry but, it tooked 5 min. to search around...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072099
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2067178
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2006815
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005746
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1989447
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1991329
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2090332
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2079991
Should I say something more?...
Thank you
Yes you should get this phone. Nuff said.
In all honesty, probably not.
The price is pretty good for a semi modern quad core phone. You'll get good performance for at least a year and the display and other features are pretty good.
But there are just way too many minus points:
* Very poor support from LG regarding ROM updates and openness. Most probably won;t get 4.1 for at least 2 months I think (or ever sadly)
* The form factor is a bit weird. It just doesn't feel right in my hands compared to G Nex or Nexus 4 or any other 4"+ phones.
* The processor and GPU aren't the best and to say the truth it's pretty much obsolete now. That might seem like a really shocking thing to say when some people are still on ARM7 dual or single cores but it's the truth.
* For me, the battery isn't as good as I thought it would be. Tried many things and it still drains at least 30% per day with VERY light use and about 5%-10% during standby. Have made sure there aren't many wakelocks.
* lastly, the one thing that bugs me most is the locked nature of the boot loader. It has ensured that the phone was dead before it even really took off.
In short, NO unless you want to save money and not wait for the newer ones instead. Actually, I would advise you to get the Galaxy Nexus second hand which will last you a year at least and then upgrade from there.
AW: [Q] Should i Get This Phone??
In all honesty, probably not.
The price is pretty good for a semi modern quad core phone. You'll get good performance for at least a year and the display and other features are pretty good.
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Semi modern? It's still one of the best phones which are available... Maybe not the very best, but for the price you won't get something better...
But there are just way too many minus points:
* Very poor support from LG regarding ROM updates and openness. Most probably won;t get 4.1 for at least 2 months I think (or ever sadly)
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Okay, we will get 4.2 in 2 month or a little bit later, but LG did something in Support etc... We will get the bootloader opened and after that, many people here don't care about support from LG...
* The form factor is a bit weird. It just doesn't feel right in my hands compared to G Nex or Nexus 4 or any other 4"+ phones.
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That's your opinion, but I think it's a very nice design and for me it's better then all other 4"+ phones...
* The processor and GPU aren't the best and to say the truth it's pretty much obsolete now. That might seem like a really shocking thing to say when some people are still on ARM7 dual or single cores but it's the truth.
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No they aren't the best, but still in high-end category...
And it's still better then dual or single cores... Look at some benchmark tests...
* For me, the battery isn't as good as I thought it would be. Tried many things and it still drains at least 30% per day with VERY light use and about 5%-10% during standby. Have made sure there aren't many wakelocks.
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For me, the battery is exactly as I expected... It's a Quadcore phone, so what do you expect? One week without charging? These times are over. The battery lasts as long as on other smartphones, at least we got the possibility to change the battery, not like the HOX or Nexus 4!
* lastly, the one thing that bugs me most is the locked nature of the boot loader. It has ensured that the phone was dead before it even really took off.
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As I already said, it will be opened with the 4.1 update. And I think (it isn't sure, I know) that some developers will come with the open bootloader.
In short, NO unless you want to save money and not wait for the newer ones instead. Actually, I would advise you to get the Galaxy Nexus second hand which will last you a year at least and then upgrade from there.
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Okay, that's your opinion... It's okay, but I love this phone!
...sent with my LG Optimus 4X HD...
Dexter made a ROM.
And maybe another, wait and see
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No they aren't the best, but still in high-end category...
And it's still better then dual or single cores... Look at some benchmark tests...
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Especially better when compared to 1.5 Ghz Dual-core S4 krait.
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I've been waiting for the nexus 4 to back in stock for months in Australia and it still hasn't came out so I searched up some cheap phones with decent specs because I need a phone that will last me 2 years and this came up its about 350 with shipping brand new. How does this handle games I no tegra 3 isn't great but my nexus 7 handles most game with no lag and that's got the weaker tegra 3 so do they run without lag and how is the battery does it last all day because i can go 2 days without charging my xperia play and how come there's no dev support on this device I love to put custom ROMs and over clock my devices. So i need to no is it still worth it with all the new phones coming out and Is it the best in its price range
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Love will come in time. Only have it will you find it suit for you.
Does this phone worth to buy now? Or should I just wait for Tegra 4 devices to show up? I don't want to pay $455 for this phone and see the price significantly drop after 1-2 months...
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Does this phone worth to buy now? Or should I just wait for Tegra 4 devices to show up? I don't want to pay $455 for this phone and see the price significantly drop after 1-2 months...
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don't buy it it looks cool the build quality is great but the software is not ok a lot of battery drain issues video playback stutters sometimes signal is not that great and worse of all it feels like it is a forgotten phone that doesn't get updates, even if it gets just one more update after waiting for so long i am sure it won't be getting anymore so have that in mind.
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Does this phone worth to buy now? Or should I just wait for Tegra 4 devices to show up? I don't want to pay $455 for this phone and see the price significantly drop after 1-2 months...
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$455 seems to be a stable price over the last weeks, and it's a good deal. Half a year ago it wass still 100€ more, but I don't think it will drop much further now. I'd even suppose that it might go up again once that JB is released.
If you wait for, let's say Tegra 4, you'll now wait about two months. Then the first phones will be released for 600€. So you wait another three months for them to be a bit cheaper, and then Tegra 5 is already on its way... you can wait forever. The 4X HD is the cheapest quad-core you can get atm, and it is worth its money. So get it now, use it for a year and then get a then-cheaper next generation phone.
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$455 seems to be a stable price over the last weeks, and it's a good deal. Half a year ago it wass still 100€ more, but I don't think it will drop much further now. I'd even suppose that it might go up again once that JB is released.
If you wait for, let's say Tegra 4, you'll now wait about two months. Then the first phones will be released for 600€. So you wait another three months for them to be a bit cheaper, and then Tegra 5 is already on its way... you can wait forever. The 4X HD is the cheapest quad-core you can get atm, and it is worth its money. So get it now, use it for a year and then get a then-cheaper next generation phone.
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you are absolutely right! That is exactly how I see it, and that's why I bought the phone
Semi modern? It's still one of the best phones which are available... Maybe not the very best, but for the price you won't get something better...
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You're right. Shouldn;t have used semi modern. I was just trying to get across that it's "last gen". But I am way to spoilt in technology to say that without shame. It's still pretty good, faster than my computer 10 years ago.
That's your opinion, but I think it's a very nice design and for me it's better then all other 4"+ phones...
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Actually, I think it's just the side effects of me jumping onto such a large phone from such a small (2.7") dumphone. I'll just need some time to adjust to it. My biggest gripe with big phones (and not necessarily the 4x) is the keyboard. I miss the physical kb.
For me, the battery is exactly as I expected... It's a Quadcore phone, so what do you expect? One week without charging? These times are over. The battery lasts as long as on other smartphones, at least we got the possibility to change the battery, not like the HOX or Nexus 4!
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That's a valid point that I did not think about.
All in all Blackduty you've made me feel good and fortunate about my 4X. I was just ranting I think.
Unfreezing all "bloat" apps and just sticking with vanilla LG ui has made the battery life a bit better. Don't get many wakelocks fortunately.
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I am thinking of getting a HTC One. But, after seeing the spec sheet of Snapdragon, comparing the Snapsragon 600 (used in HTC One) vs the Snapdragon 800 the latter seems to be far better than the 600 series. Also, in the spec sheet the SD 600 is categorized under mid-high end phones, where the SD 800 is intended for super premium phones, tablets and smart tv's. Source: Spec sheet and Qualcomm Press Release
So, I'd like to know your opinions. Should I go for the HTC One, which seems a great phone overall, just not the best possible SOC (but great enough for a phone I reckon), or should I wait for one of the first Snapdragon 800 devices?
These days no matter which phone you buy, few months later something better will get released.
And besides that, at the moment snapdragon s4 pro is best soc available(until htc one comes out) and snapdragon 600 is suppose to be 40% better in performances, so I would definitely go for it...
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I don't think we will see the 800 on phones at least not until a new chip can beat the 600.....
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at this point i honestly feel like phones don't really have a need to get any faster for day-to-day usage. it's more about software features. 1080p is nice, but it's not a MUST HAVE over a 720p. snapdragon 800 is a great bonus if you're in the market for a smartphone when it comes out, but getting the s4 pro or the 600 will probably not give you any lag or speed problems. i mostly root and install stock android on most of my phones so the 2 things i always look for are:
1. battery life
2. design
that's it. though i wonder if i'd rather stay on htc sense if i ever get an htc phone. everyone always bashes it but i find sense to be extremely good looking (even better than stock).
S800 will come around Q4..And there isno end to it.I am sure when it comes out there will be talksof anoher high end soc..S900 maybe..Its only bcoz u know about it that you are waiting..you should not wait and besides s600 is blazingly fast and the fastest chip so far!
after the S800 the S900 then the S1000 etc... every few months there will be something newer and faster just like dual core, quad core and now the supposed 8core chips that are being developed or already developed ... as well as the SGS3 then SGS4 then SGS5 , note 3, then note 4 etc.. you get the idea if you wait for the newer thing thats "about to come out" then your gonna always end up waiting and never have anything ...
Since I get a new phone every 2 years I could wait a couple of months for better, newer hardware though. SD800 devices are said to use Quick Charge 2.0 and Voice activation, which are ONLY available only for the SD800 devices. I read somewhere that there are already 55 SD800 devices in the works (source), so waiting a couple more months for a significant performance boost, even lower battery drain, and charging the battery up to 75% faster seems logical to me. (Not to mention encode/decode of 4K HD content, 50% boost in graphics and 100% boost in performance due to Adreno 330, 50% faster LTE bandwidth and clocked to 2,3GHz) Those are a lot of high percentages! Voice activation could be interesting, but I rarely use voice so that's not a big deal for me. Maybe in the future when Google Now becomes available in the Netherlands though.
The comments are understandable that you should not wait for the next best thing as you will end up having nothing. But a few more months for such a performance and feature boost, to me, is a better insurance my phone will keep up the next 2 years (hardware wise).
But thanks again for the replies!
Well, I've had early access to one running a final build in Canada. If it's performance you're worried about; I've ran Nenamark 2 on it, and it never went below 60 FPS. The result was 60.2 average.
The only major thing that could have made me wait though is the quicker charging feature, however I mostly charge my devices at night so charging times makes little difference to me.
Don't take my word for it though, I'm biased towards the One. I've been following it since it was just a rumor and had already pre-ordered it.
Its the most poerful device rite now..what else do u want? Evn s4 wont be that big a difference..and plasticky
Life is short, buy the best one that is offered in the given moment!
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Life is short, buy the best one that is offered in the given moment!
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LC, will we see your work on hTC One??
I'm definitely getting 600 snapdragon and past 800,1200. And getting 1600. LOL. There's always gonna be a better phone, I'm not gonna wait forever.
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i take now, is away more powerfull than my gs3 and better construction
HTC One + will be out in a couple of months after the S4 release, as HTC always does.
And XDA will be there to make sure there would be no difference between the two (maybe apart from storage).
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And XDA will be there to make sure there would be no difference between the two (maybe apart from storage).
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Well, 'no difference' would be a little weird since they always upgrade something in the hardware department, otherwise it's just the same phone. I'm still hoping HTC will release a new One model, like the One+, but hopefully with the SD800 (and all the perks that go with it). That would be the perfect phone I think..
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Well, 'no difference' would be a little weird since they always upgrade something in the hardware department, otherwise it's just the same phone. I'm still hoping HTC will release a new One model, like the One+, but hopefully with the SD800 (and all the perks that go with it). That would be the perfect phone I think..
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Until a couple of months down the line when something else that makes us drool is released.
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S800 will come around Q4..And there isno end to it.I am sure when it comes out there will be talksof anoher high end soc..S900 maybe..Its only bcoz u know about it that you are waiting..you should not wait and besides s600 is blazingly fast and the fastest chip so far!
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According to some rumours there may be S800 phones out as early as July. I don't think anyone really knows.
I say you wait, that's what I'm doing. Q4 we are going to see the snapdragon 800 and tegra 4, hell we might even see the Exynos 5 make its way to America maybe in the next Note (assuming it becomes LTE compatible). but these processors far out class what you would be getting in the One or S4, so what's 3 months.
And the Results are? :::drum roll:::
Greetings, Bramgg. After Googling the SAME question... it brought me to your post and this forum. I was fascinated by some of the insightful comments you got on this post, Bramgg. i'm a AT&T customer in the US and unless i plan on losing my fishing partner (and more importantly his boat!! lol) i'm pretty locked in with my service provider! Lol.
I currently am using an HTC Vivid (pausing for those reading this to groan) and i'm primarily still using that phone because i have been dragging my feet waiting for the Snapdragon 800. i happen to REALLY like HTC even though i can't deny the sluggish performance and lag times on the Vivid have been verrrry frustrating. I guess my frustration is part of the reason i have dragged my feet in selecting a new phone but honestly, i can't take it any more!! i need a new phone.... hopefully in the next few days.
I have a real fascination with the Snapdragon 800... and am curious if you waited for it or went with the 600 as you were contemplating? Are you pleased with the speed? This is kind of embarrassing to admit on an advanced user forum but i'm not even aware if the 800 is out yet and available on HTC devices. I'm not completely locked into HTC i guess, but i do like the 'Shortcut to Four Apps' feature on the lock screen and i do think they build a high quality phone compared to many of the other companies who flood the market with phones and discontinue them three months later.
Thanks in advance for any help you or others reading this can provide... i'm very anxious to have a phone that responds more quickly.
Steven
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Shadow, I'm fascinated (and slightly jealous! lol) of your knowledge on processors. i told Bramgg (in a post below on this thread) a few details about what i'm contemplating and why. May i get your thoughts please... when time permits, of course. i suppose i could wait a week or so if something specific had already been announced but i'm not sure i can wait much longer for a new device as i'm verrrrrry frustrated with the lagging on the HTC Vivid. The Vivid has a 1.2 GHz dualcore processor with 1GB of memory... but it's not cutting it. Texts, Apps opening... all verry slow.
Thanks in advance.
Steven
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I say you wait, that's what I'm doing. Q4 we are going to see the snapdragon 800 and tegra 4, hell we might even see the Exynos 5 make its way to America maybe in the next Note (assuming it becomes LTE compatible). but these processors far out class what you would be getting in the One or S4, so what's 3 months.
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Hello Guys i want a new high end budget device. And i want to ask you guys if it is worth it to buy this device in 2013?
Is the battery life oke? Can this phone hold this phone a whole day on light usage? i don't have much money left and my old HTC desire s broke yesterday. So do you recommend this phone guys
Kingdomds said:
Hello Guys i want a new high end budget device. And i want to ask you guys if it is worth it to buy this device in 2013?
Is the battery life oke? Can this phone hold this phone a whole day on light usage? i don't have much money left and my old HTC desire s broke yesterday. So do you recommend this phone guys
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Yes, if the price is right. I brought this phone about 5 months ago when it was about $100 (nzd) less than the s3. If you could get an s3 for the same price, id probably go for the s3, yet id have this device over the htc one x even if they were the same price.
Battery is acceptable, people complain about it alot but if it was 20% better people would still complain about it. If you find the right rom (or) stock it can run around 4 hrs screen on time. Which again is acceptable. Development has got suprizingly strong on this device if that is an influential factor for you (it is for me)
Conclusion: If the price is right
It's still one of the cheapest quad-core devices around. Personally I bought a second one because of that, for you can't get higher performance for the same price atm. Nexus 4 still costs 100€ more. But if you're not in a hurry you might as well save some money and wait for the next Nexus device (if you like phone with screen size >5").
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Yes, if the price is right. I brought this phone about 5 months ago when it was about $100 (nzd) less than the s3. If you could get an s3 for the same price, id probably go for the s3, yet id have this device over the htc one x even if they were the same price.
Battery is acceptable, people complain about it alot but if it was 20% better people would still complain about it. If you find the right rom (or) stock it can run around 4 hrs screen on time. Which again is acceptable. Development has got suprizingly strong on this device if that is an influential factor for you (it is for me)
Conclusion: If the price is right
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the s3 is in my country about €400,- euros still expensive
I saw this phone in a store nearby for €250,- euros. i only have exact that much of money right now. and i really need it bad.. Because nobody can call me right now XD. thank you for the quick reply
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the s3 is in my country about €400,- euros still expensive
I saw this phone in a store nearby for €250,- euros. i only have exact that much of money right now. and i really need it bad.. Because nobody can call me right now XD. thank you for the quick reply
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In that case buy it, you wont regret it. Its a great phone. We have lots of customs roms etc, but i find the stock one fantastic, which is rare in the android world.
Kingdomds said:
Hello Guys i want a new high end budget device. And i want to ask you guys if it is worth it to buy this device in 2013?
Is the battery life oke? Can this phone hold this phone a whole day on light usage? i don't have much money left and my old HTC desire s broke yesterday. So do you recommend this phone guys
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I recognise you from the Desire S forum
I haven't regretted once that I got this phone (it's on contract, but is costing me £10.50 less per month than the other quad-core phones would have done.
Upgrade to JB - easy
Root - easy
Unlock bootloader - easy if you read
Install recovery - easy
Install custom ROM - easy
I've still got my old DS running Reaper v4 as I use that for lending out to people, but the 4X looks good, feels good and runs just fine.
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I recognise you from the Desire S forum
I haven't regretted once that I got this phone (it's on contract, but is costing me £10.50 less per month than the other quad-core phones would have done.
Upgrade to JB - easy
Root - easy
Unlock bootloader - easy if you read
Install recovery - easy
Install custom ROM - easy
I've still got my old DS running Reaper v4 as I use that for lending out to people, but the 4X looks good, feels good and runs just fine.
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haha nice! I am going to get mine optimus 4x next week. A good friend of my lend me his old samsung galaxy s for this weekend. i've just looked in every website and compared all the cheapest high/mid end phones. 4x was my best solution for now.
Definitely get it. I love my 4X and would recommend it to anyone, so long as you don't need OTG. I found out the hard way that my phone doesn't support it, but it's no deal breaker for me. I installed a custom ROM, and it's actually quite easy to do.
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Definitely get it. I love my 4X and would recommend it to anyone, so long as you don't need OTG. I found out the hard way that my phone doesn't support it, but it's no deal breaker for me. I installed a custom ROM, and it's actually quite easy to do.
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Well thanks to kholk usb otg works(on his 3.4 kernel). To be honest ive never used or had a use for it but still good to know its there.
SimonTS said:
I recognise you from the Desire S forum
I haven't regretted once that I got this phone (it's on contract, but is costing me £10.50 less per month than the other quad-core phones would have done.
Upgrade to JB - easy
Root - easy
Unlock bootloader - easy if you read
Install recovery - easy
Install custom ROM - easy
I've still got my old DS running Reaper v4 as I use that for lending out to people, but the 4X looks good, feels good and runs just fine.
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I too hail from desire s
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It's totally worth the money, however when my upgrade was due i could choose between this and the Samsung Galaxy S3, but the S3 was an 18month Contract and the 4x HD only 12months, so i can refresh my device after a year, and at £20 a month, 3000minutes, unlim texts and unlim data, this phone is definitely cost effecive, It hasn't depreciated at all, i got this phone about 2weeks ago and i love it so far, stock Rom is great, however multiRom allows me to have both Stock and AOSP! I'd choose this over the HTC One X, and the S3, i think my next device will be the Ubuntu Edge if it's applicable!
My device History: HTC Hero>Samsung Galaxy Mini>HTC Desire C, Samsung Galaxy W> Now i have Desire C, SGW, and 4x HD Tab: Nexus7
I would have bought the nexus 4 or optimus g instead...
It's definitely worth buying. I got mine 2 months ago and am very satisfied. I was first a bit annoyed about the battery and heating, but with a custom rom it's a way better. Development is now going with lightspeed, it's probably the cheapest quad-core phone at the moment and it gives a great performance thanks to Tegra 3.
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It's definitely worth buying. I got mine 2 months ago and am very satisfied. I was first a bit annoyed about the battery and heating, but with a custom rom it's a way better. Development is now going with lightspeed, it's probably the cheapest quad-core phone at the moment and it gives a great performance thanks to Tegra 3.
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Unless you like Gameloft. They have fixed most of their games but they gave up on the rest. Don't buy spiderman unless you're a fan of the matrix, super slow mo gameplay
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Compare the price between 4x HD and Nexus 4. If Nexus 4 doesn't cost more than 20% than 4x HD. I prefer to have Nexus 4 instead.
I am owning 4X HD and my sister has Nexus 4.
Nexus 4 has a better build on everything. It has much better hand feeling, better CPU, it has 2G of RAM, less heat, seems better battery life + you will always get the latest Android version from google. The only thing I don't like is it's onscreen button that actually make your viewable screen size smaller on most of the apps.
To be honest, 4x HD is not outdated yet, but 2G of RAM + Snapdragon s4 CPU really beats 4x HD up a lot. If it is possible, try it with your own hand, open up some web pages with chrome, you will know the differences.
Please dun get it wrong. I still love my 4x HD, it is still the best price/performance phone now. Just if your money is not that tight get a Nexus 4 will be better.
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Mike
Note: I apologise if this isn't the appropriate section but I couldn't think of a better one than the N5 General forum. English isn't my native language and although I proof read the post several times it's still going to be fairly awkward.
The Nexus 4 and 5* were high end devices with unlocked bootloaders, direct support from Google, large communities and they were sold at a very affordable price off-contract.
The Nexus 6 is a high end device with an (supposedly) unlocked bootloader, direct support from Google, a large community...
...but it costs 300€ more. That's 380 US dollars. Oh and it's also a 6 inch phablet. Both ensures that the N6 isn't an option for a lot of people, myself included.
I came to the conclusion the N5 doesn't actually have a successor.
That is a huge issue for me because I will need a new phone in the next few months and I don't know what to get. There are the usual suspects from Samsung, HTC, LG and all the other brands but they aren't the same as the Nexus. They all miss the extremely clean Android experience. Even the N5's design is very modest (something I'm missing in the Nexus 6). The software is arguably worse, they don't get direct updates and they probably have a smaller dev community too. They all are much more expensive than the Nexus 5 was in 2013.
The OnePlus One still hasn't been launched yet and I would prefer a phone from one of the known brands.
Can I hope for a Nexus 5 (2014)?
And if I don't: Is there even a spiritual successor to the Nexus line of smartphones?
*You may argue with battery life and camera but they were still extremely competitive when they were released.
the moto X 2014 developer's edition
thank me later.....
Why do you "need" a new phone? I'm only getting the nexus 6 because I'm a nexus fan boy. If they said oh were nut making a new nexus I would be totally fine with the nexus 5 for another year. It's still blazing fast. Even faster with lollipop.
If I was too get a new phone right now and I didn't get a nexus it would be a don't z3 or z3 compact.
Nexus 5 doesn't need a successor yet
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That is a huge issue for me because I will need a new phone in the next few months
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Why???
"Addiction isn't about substance - you aren't addicted to the substance, you are addicted to the alteration of mood that the substance brings." :angel:
Buy the Nexus 5 in a different color once Android L come out.
Bam, you've got yourself a new phone.
In my opinion, there is no worthy successor to the N5 yet.
Maybe next year. A Nexus 5 (2015) with Snapdragon 810, Good 13MP Camera with Sony Exmor sensor and Xenon flash, 4GB RAM, 1080p IPS Display, Good build quality (metal frame), 3200mAh battery and Android M ...that would be a good successor.
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Nexus 5 doesn't need a successor yet
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^^^ This ^^^
Still a worthy flagship until 64-bit processors come out with apps that can use the potential.
But, if you just want something new, I'd get the OnePlus One. I have both, and my Nexus 5 gets used far less.
Nexus 5 isn't as young as 2013 but he's still the best phone for me :
- performance are very good, not the best in benchmark (41000 antutu v5 cm11 and elementalX) but there isn't any costumize from the constructor, that's why nexus 5 is more stable and the faster
- life time : i hope we will have 2-3 years google update, but we will have update from cyanogenmod after these years and many others workers, galaxy nexus still have many people who make up to date rom and enhancement
- The size is very goo
- the battery isn't very good but i heard that a company is working on a better battery for nexus 5, very easy to install
And futhermore, nexus 5 have one of the best screen, full hd. Phone with quadHD have a battery time like nexus 5 (but have 3200mha) and games performances are better on nexus 5.
But nexus 5 should have metal
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^^^ This ^^^
Still a worthy flagship until 64-bit processors come out with apps that can use the potential.
But, if you just want something new, I'd get the OnePlus One. I have both, and my Nexus 5 gets used far less.
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64 bits wont be any faster than 32, same as PC.
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^^^ This ^^^
Still a worthy flagship until 64-bit processors come out with apps that can use the potential.
But, if you just want something new, I'd get the OnePlus One. I have both, and my Nexus 5 gets used far less.
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How is the general responsiveness of the 1+1 compared to N5? We all love the N5 for its buttery smooth performance and huge dev support. Is that also there on the 1+1? Thanks.
Primokorn said:
Why???
"Addiction isn't about substance - you aren't addicted to the substance, you are addicted to the alteration of mood that the substance brings." :angel:
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Why do you assume I'm addicted to anything?
If you must know, my mother would like to get a smartphone and she asked me to handle it. If I was addicted, I wouldn't have worried about price and such, no?
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Why do you assume I'm addicted to anything?
If you must know, my mother would like to get a smartphone and she asked me to handle it. If I was addicted, I wouldn't have worried about price and such, no?
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You didn't say that though, you said you "needed" one. If it's for your mother why not just get a more budget oriented one?
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You didn't say that though, you said you "needed" one. If it's for your mother why not just get a more budget oriented one?
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What else was I supposed to write? Words still elude me at times and I find it challenging to explain myself in a foreign language... if that was too ambiguous; I apologise.
Well I do want to get her the best there is and I was fairly certain it'd be a Nexus. Now that I've been thoroughly disappointed I'm looking for alternatives. I could get her a more budget oriented one, but it'd be less than ideal...
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Nexus 5 isn't as young as 2013 but he's still the best phone for me :
- performance are very good, not the best in benchmark (41000 antutu v5 cm11 and elementalX) but there isn't any costumize from the constructor, that's why nexus 5 is more stable and the faster
- life time : i hope we will have 2-3 years google update, but we will have update from cyanogenmod after these years and many others workers, galaxy nexus still have many people who make up to date rom and enhancement
- The size is very goo
- the battery isn't very good but i heard that a company is working on a better battery for nexus 5, very easy to install
And futhermore, nexus 5 have one of the best screen, full hd. Phone with quadHD have a battery time like nexus 5 (but have 3200mha) and games performances are better on nexus 5.
But nexus 5 should have metal
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Do you have a link about the bigger battery thing? I am very interested
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Why do you assume I'm addicted to anything?
If you must know, my mother would like to get a smartphone and she asked me to handle it. If I was addicted, I wouldn't have worried about price and such, no?
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Due to the above point and because a lot of people always want the newest phone even if they don't need it.
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What else was I supposed to write? Words still elude me at times and I find it challenging to explain myself in a foreign language... if that was too ambiguous; I apologise.
Well I do want to get her the best there is and I was fairly certain it'd be a Nexus. Now that I've been thoroughly disappointed I'm looking for alternatives. I could get her a more budget oriented one, but it'd be less than ideal...
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Giving a N5 to your mother isn't a good idea I think. If you don't have basic Android knownledges you can quickly complain about battery life and your mother will ask for a 'better phone'.
If I were you I would keep my N5 and buy another phone with a bigger battery for my mother.
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Do you have a link about the bigger battery thing? I am very interested
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Here is thz link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/accessories/official-poll-mugen-extended-internal-t2542589
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Due to the above point and because a lot of people always want the newest phone even if they dont need it.
Giving a N5 to your mother isnt a good idea I think. If you dont have basic Android knownledges you can quickly complain about battery life and your mother will ask for a better phone.
If I were you I would keep my N5 and buy another phone with a bigger battery for my mother.
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Okay, there's a bit of miscommunication going on here. When I mentioned in the OP I needed a new phone it was meant for my mother and I didn't mention her because i didn't deem it important. I will keep my N5 and I was going to get her this year's Nexus.
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Okay, there's a bit of miscommunication going on here. When I mentioned in the OP I needed a new phone it was meant for my mother and I didn't mention her because i didn't deem it important. I will keep my N5 and I was going to get her this year's Nexus.
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Get her a Moto G instead. The 2014 edition is similar in size to the N5, and the lesser SoC feels snappy for just about everything besides gaming. Games will still run fine just not at quite the same level as the N5.
It's about $200 USD off contract and comes unlocked if bought direct from Motorola.
waa.. stop crying. the nexus one, nexus s, and the gnex were all more expensive. only the n4 and n5 were less. just because the n6 is bigger and cost more, then its not a replacement? deal with it or don't buy the next nexus. me, I'm always a nexus *****, so I'll get the n6 no matter what, as it IS the next nexus replacement.
I'm assuming a lot of you are like me, and have had the Note 4 close to 2 years now- close to paid for... wondering if anyone is considering getting a Note 7 or something else and why?
I was all excited about upgrading to a Note 7 but the limited research I've done based on the S7 is the bootloader will probably be locked meaning no root, no roms, etc... so now I'm not sure if I just stick it out a while long with my Note 4 or look elsewhere for another device? (nexus ###?)
Comments appreciated.
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I'm assuming a lot of you are like me, and have had the Note 4 close to 2 years now- close to paid for... wondering if anyone is considering getting a Note 7 or something else and why?
I was all excited about upgrading to a Note 7 but the limited research I've done based on the S7 is the bootloader will probably be locked meaning no root, no roms, etc... so now I'm not sure if I just stick it out a while long with my Note 4 or look elsewhere for another device? (nexus ###?)
Comments appreciated.
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It's a pain in the butt shopping for where to go from the Note 4. Where, oh where, is it's successor? I so hate the idea of a non-replaceable battery. Maybe, if it wouldn't be too grueling to take my next "sealed" phone apart to replace the dang thing. The next big screen Nexus? Arrrgggghhhhhh!
Well if I didn't just post a lengthy reply to a similar question in the Intl. forum! (In fact I did; this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/moving-to-flagship-t3404126 my ramblings are the first post on page 4 ) Bullet points:
* I think the Note 4 is (still, 2 years in) a great device and I plan on keeping mine after making my last few payments. It will be a super fancy universal IR remote... ...among other things Definitely no shortage of ways to repurpose an old/extra Android device.
* I really hope the upcoming Nexus has expandable storage... I could see that happening this year with Google's "adoptable storage" (and other OEM's failing to... adopt it ) It's equally possible that I just really want that to happen. Either way, if it does, the larger screen version will be my next phone.
* The Note 7 looks beastly and if it doesn't have a locked bootloader I might go for it. The thing is, I'd really like to avoid buying anything from TMO aside from service... ya know, "vote with my wallet" against their abysmally late updates. I have a "new" Tab S2 TMO variant that's now the only model of that tablet that hasn't been updated to MM yet, making it as well as my N4 dead last (including other carriers) to receive the 10 month old OS. No way I can throw down up front for a $$$ N7 though, and I did do a couple of exchanges with the TMO insurance that were super easy, so bootloader unlocked = maybe, locked = not. a. chance. (not that I'd ever pay money for a "computer" that locks me out from self-administration, but particularly since I trust TMO 0% wrt updates and may need to handle that myself.)
* Option 3 = ??? Hoping to find the following: strong/friendly development community, expandable storage, >= 5.5" quality display, standard headphone port (IMO it's ridiculous that dropping this is becoming "a thing" w/o a superior replacement), and "good" battery life. Hopefully not asking too much in 2016, sure was in 2015.
Currently leaning towards a Nexus I suppose... not really in any rush to move on from the N4. Oh and definitely agree @steven.m - sealed battery = planned obsolescence but (clearly) any phone without a completely impractical metal unibody is simply not "PREMIUM" enough for... something something... of today! Note that a removable battery isn't even on my "wish list"... I was trying to make it realistic
I'll keep this N4 until it's dead. Then I'll most likely look at Nexus, HTC or Moto devices. About the only thing I'll miss is the WiFi calling.
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Xiaomi Mi Max for me
Xiaomi Mi Max 6.5 inches of Android goodness, plus removable battery and sd card support. Samsung has iphoned their way out of my hands. If I wanted a iphone I would have bought a iphone, but such is life. Wife has s7 edge and she keeps telling me it is the worst phone she has ever owned. With that in house review why would I buy a Note 7?
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Xiaomi Mi Max 6.5 inches of Android goodness, plus removable battery and sd card support. Samsung has iphoned their way out of my hands. If I wanted a iphone I would have bought a iphone, but such is life. Wife has s7 edge and she keeps telling me it is the worst phone she has ever owned. With that in house review why would I buy a Note 7?
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I'll have to look that model up- I don't know Xiaomi, but maybe I will get to know them. :highfive:
Edit: Hmmm.... love the size of the screen, but not QHD.... and battery not removable. Close, but I dunno.
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I'll have to look that model up- I don't know Xiaomi, but maybe I will get to know them. :highfive:
Edit: Hmmm.... love the size of the screen, but not QHD.... and battery not removable. Close, but I dunno.
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Dang just did another spec search and you are right http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_max-8057.php says non-removable battery. What is up with that, cheaper to produce?
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says non-removable battery. What is up with that, cheaper to produce?
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Yes, and the capacity can be battery capacity can be maximised this way since they don't have to make provisions for the battery to be removed.
I think I'm done with Samsung for now. Waiting for the Note 4 MM update this long and the fact that they basically abandoned the Galaxy Tab Pro six months after they released it have really turned me off.
I think I'll be trying one of the 'upstart' manufacturers. I've been considering the Huawei Mate line for a while now, but their software has always been a drawback (but at least they update it). Now I've been reading that they are making software and their EMUI skin a priority as they attempt to break into the US/NA market. I look forward to seeing what they've got. Also, T-Mobile specific versions of any phone seem to not get nearly as much development, which is understandable. But I think I'll get an unlocked international phone next time.
I will be keeping my Note 4 (just like I still have my Note 3) for use with the virtual reality headset that I will be getting. It still has enough processing power and a very good screen resolution for that type of activity.
I'm thinking about the zenfone 3 ultra 6.8inch monster lol
The note 7 isn't on my radar, I too am think of going with a nexus if it has a memory card slot but all of this won't be for a while as I just traded in my s7 ( which was part of bogo ) and got my note 4 back that I jumped about 6 months ago. I missed it so much I will keep it for ever, even after its paid off. I also have the s7 edge which just became rootable so I might play with it for a while but it's my work phone and I have until November before I can jump again but it won't be a Sammy phone. I don't really like the s7 edge as those edges are a real nightmare unless you have a case on it you will have accidental touches that will drive you crazy. I'll hold on to my note 4 until next year and then start looking.
I didn't realize the s7 had been rooted
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I think I'm done with Samsung for now. Waiting for the Note 4 MM update this long and the fact that they basically abandoned the Galaxy Tab Pro six months after they released it have really turned me off.
I think I'll be trying one of the 'upstart' manufacturers. I've been considering the Huawei Mate line for a while now, but their software has always been a drawback (but at least they update it). Now I've been reading that they are making software and their EMUI skin a priority as they attempt to break into the US/NA market. I look forward to seeing what they've got. Also, T-Mobile specific versions of any phone seem to not get nearly as much development, which is understandable. But I think I'll get an unlocked international phone next time.
I will be keeping my Note 4 (just like I still have my Note 3) for use with the virtual reality headset that I will be getting. It still has enough processing power and a very good screen resolution for that type of activity.
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I have the Honor 5x which is from Huawei also., bought it a few months to test, for $200 premium looking, metal casing, 2 sim slots and external sd... but no removable battery and we are supposed to get MM any day now..
but yes I think I want a google phone, but it has to have external sd, maybe I can deal with non removable battery, but who knows. and they better start lowering prices of phones, they would sell more and sell every year selling at about $500.. that's just me thinking out load.. :silly:
because I have my father in law had the S2 very outdated and giving him problems.., so off went my note 3 which was my sons, so he plays with it,
I started with HTC, had almost every single phone till the M7, then moved to Samsung from S2, S3, Note 2, 3, 4.. and on the Notes had 2 of each, for me and my wife.. also with the M7.. I have paid to much on phones and then they don't take care of the updates which the dev do it better than Samsung is very disappointing since manufacturing them is really under $200 coming from the take downs of the devices.. way to much profit, then they expect us, to buy new phones every year...
try to return a new phone u buy in T-Mobile, they offer u half of less after 3 or 4 months then they sell it back as certified phones for double than what they paid getting it back from you... really sucks..
remember a phone is for making phone calls......
I have a pc, laptop,
2 tablets Samsung as well, and they stop with the updates after a year. u get lucky maybe give it a year 2 or 3 months...
super surprised about this MM update on our phones giving that we are almost on our 2 year.. very surprised, guess they are trying to say we will support them longer... remember Note 4 came with KitKat, then Lollipop, and now MM... wow....
darn even apple updates the phones till the older phones can't except the updates to slowing it down or not enough space left..
opps rambling, let me stop... haha
This is a good question I guess it depends on if note 7 comes with 820 or something better I won't buy a 820 phone there are cheaper options with same processor. Im thinking Nexus. But if note 7 has 4000mah battery it may get my money. My last 2 Samsung phones have had bad gps
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I have the Honor 5x which is from Huawei also., bought it a few months to test, for $200 premium looking, metal casing, 2 sim slots and external sd... but no removable battery and we are supposed to get MM any day now..
but yes I think I want a google phone, but it has to have external sd, maybe I can deal with non removable battery, but who knows. and they better start lowering prices of phones, they would sell more and sell every year selling at about $500.. that's just me thinking out load.. :silly:
because I have my father in law had the S2 very outdated and giving him problems.., so off went my note 3 which was my sons, so he plays with it,
I started with HTC, had almost every single phone till the M7, then moved to Samsung from S2, S3, Note 2, 3, 4.. and on the Notes had 2 of each, for me and my wife.. also with the M7.. I have paid to much on phones and then they don't take care of the updates which the dev do it better than Samsung is very disappointing since manufacturing them is really under $200 coming from the take downs of the devices.. way to much profit, then they expect us, to buy new phones every year...
try to return a new phone u buy in T-Mobile, they offer u half of less after 3 or 4 months then they sell it back as certified phones for double than what they paid getting it back from you... really sucks..
remember a phone is for making phone calls......
I have a pc, laptop,
2 tablets Samsung as well, and they stop with the updates after a year. u get lucky maybe give it a year 2 or 3 months...
super surprised about this MM update on our phones giving that we are almost on our 2 year.. very surprised, guess they are trying to say we will support them longer... remember Note 4 came with KitKat, then Lollipop, and now MM... wow....
darn even apple updates the phones till the older phones can't except the updates to slowing it down or not enough space left..
opps rambling, let me stop... haha
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I am getting to the point where I can no longer justify spending $650-700 on a phone. You're right, there are so many decent options now for half the price.
I'm waiting to see what the Nexus phone phones are like this year. I'm hoping they'll have a nice premium phone this year. The 6P was a nice start. HTC may kick it up another notch. Rumors are that Google wants a phone that will directly compete with the iPhone. Well see if that happens. I've had only Samsung smartphones (Galaxy S, Note 2, note 4, galaxy light). It's time for something different
Jeez the note 7 is going to be almost 1000.
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HTC makes the best Nexus phones imo.
I might get the Moto G4 Plus
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I'm waiting to see what the Nexus phone phones are like this year. I'm hoping they'll have a nice premium phone this year. The 6P was a nice start. HTC may kick it up another notch. Rumors are that Google wants a phone that will directly compete with the iPhone. Well see if that happens. I've had only Samsung smartphones (Galaxy S, Note 2, note 4, galaxy light). It's time for something different
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Agreed... but then again, do I have enough time to monkey around with ROMs again? Realistically - no. If I get an Android device again, I'm just going to have to get the latest Nexus. I'm tired of TW and trying to hack things to make them behave like I want them to...( I'm looking at you NFC icon ).
So the OP5 is coming soon, we have few leaks about it but are you thinking about an upgrade ? Or you will keep this beast for one/two more years ?
I just got mine yesturday so i plan on keeping it till at least the 6 comes out.
I'll upgrade if the specs are good. 2k screen with a good camera and easily unlockable with good dev support. If not I'll get a new different phone either the international Note 8 version with unlocked bootloader or the new Pixel.
Just saw the news said they drop support for the op2. Hope OnePlus won't drop the software update support on op3t. Otherwise I will use 3t until op6 comes out.
Nah, I´m really happy with the change from a Nexus 6P to the 3T. The only downside is the camera at night and to be honest with myself I don´t use the camera enough to justify an upgrade. I love the 1080 screen, 6gb ram (especially at the beta, app management is the best on any android phone I´ve experienced). And regarding android upgrades, as long as i get security patches I´m happy. Google seems to f#ck things up more and more along the road..
I didn't buy 3T to upgrade it just after the next gen comes. Like seriously, the purpose of all those specs like 6GB of RAM is to last long and endure technological evolution process as well.
BTW I had an opportunity to get my hands onto S8 recently and even for free I wouldn't swap these devices even though 3T is from the previous generation of flagships (which apparently means nothing in this case).
I have the 3T since January. No reasons to upgrade. I'll keep it for 2 years, I hope.
not yet, unless the OP5 is groundbreaking
Maybe
Oh I'm upgrading but def not to the OP5. Probably gonna grab an S8+ pretty soon and then the Note 8 when it comes out. I only buy OPs if I need a new phone and there's nothing out that interests me. They are great interim phones, for sure.
If it'll be under 500€ i'll buy it
Im going to go with a solid maybe. Normally i dont buy phones for cameras. Never have never will. but im very interested in this things camera, those picture samples leaked are SOOOOOOO damn good looking. Normally id reach for my nikon but holy moly the detail. You know youve got a good camera if you can see the scales on a strawberry. The 835 sounds amazing 6gb ram is super useful and if that new leak is true with the 30 minute full charge on dash, thats a buy right there just for the charging feature. My lord-y thats just smartphone bliss right there. Forget battery banks imagine what you can get in a 5 minute charge. Theyll change the tag line to a whole days power in a 10th of an hour.
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Im going to go with a solid maybe. Normally i dont buy phones for cameras. Never have never will. but im very interested in this things camera, those picture samples leaked are SOOOOOOO damn good looking. Normally id reach for my nikon but holy moly the detail. You know youve got a good camera if you can see the scales on a strawberry. The 835 sounds amazing 6gb ram is super useful and if that new leak is true with the 30 minute full charge on dash, thats a buy right there just for the charging feature. My lord-y thats just smartphone bliss right there. Forget battery banks imagine what you can get in a 5 minute charge. Theyll change the tag line to a whole days power in a 10th of an hour.
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But if the camera is the only *major* upgrade, while you still consider buying it or you will just keep the 3T ?
Its a low chance that is the only major upgrade. They will definitely be using the 835 or hopefully even thr 850 if its delayed enough.
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Its a low chance that is the only major upgrade. They will definitely be using the 835 or hopefully even thr 850 if its delayed enough.
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They've already confirmed it will use snapdragon 835. That's about a 10% performance increase over snapdragon 821.
I do belive that the 5 is a good idea. Im sure they way they use the 835 it will be more than 10%
I've owned alot of phones in my time, but the OP3t is hands down my favorite. The OP5 is gonna have to bring a lot more then just a camera upgrade for me to drop 500 bucks on it.
If the price is between $400 & $450, I'll buy immediately. If it's qHd I'll buy immediately, below $600. If the materials are new (ceramic) I'll buy immediately.
If not, I'm going to wait and see what the Note looks like. Or the Mate.
I love this phone and only got it in March or something.
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If the price is between $400 & $450, I'll buy immediately. If it's qHd I'll buy immediately, below $600. If the materials are new (ceramic) I'll buy immediately.
If not, I'm going to wait and see what the Note looks like. Or the Mate.
I love this phone and only got it in March or something.
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Im on an s7 edge but im with you on the price. Less than 500 and im ordering day one.
kolembo said:
If the price is between $400 & $450, I'll buy immediately. If it's qHd I'll buy immediately, below $600. If the materials are new (ceramic) I'll buy immediately.
If not, I'm going to wait and see what the Note looks like. Or the Mate.
I love this phone and only got it in March or something.
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If you just got it in March no need to upgrade in my opinion,your phone is still new