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So, as most of you know a root for the AHD came out yesterday. I wanted to say thank you to everyone that worked hours and hours on getting the root, even though Dan gets the money lol. But there are many new comers to android out there, including myself. Coming from the iphone I can tell you everything you can do once you jailbreak and iDevice, but what all have you guys done after you rooted your device. I have owned one android and played around for a while on many, but most of which were completely unlocked and had new roms installed ect. ect. So I thought it would be a good idea for people to be able to post what all they have used the root for so far, so maybe we can use those ideas and make this phone even more awesome.
The first thing I did do was calibrate my battery and have noticed a little bit better life today than I do most days.
I also uninstalled some of AT&T's annoying bloatware (which IMO belongs on NO phone)
So share what you did and give some ideas to all the readers!!!
Thanks again Dan for the root and I know Matt worked for hours and hours on it, so I would like to thank you too
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So, as most of you know a root for the AHD came out yesterday. I wanted to say thank you to everyone that worked hours and hours on getting the root, even though Dan gets the money lol. But there are many new comers to android out there, including myself. Coming from the iphone I can tell you everything you can do once you jailbreak and iDevice, but what all have you guys done after you rooted your device. I have owned one android and played around for a while on many, but most of which were completely unlocked and had new roms installed ect. ect. So I thought it would be a good idea for people to be able to post what all they have used the root for so far, so maybe we can use those ideas and make this phone even more awesome.
The first thing I did do was calibrate my battery and have noticed a little bit better life today than I do most days.
I also uninstalled some of AT&T's annoying bloatware (which IMO belongs on NO phone)
So share what you did and give some ideas to all the readers!!!
Thanks again Dan for the root and I know Matt worked for hours and hours on it, so I would like to thank you too
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Great thread idea!
First i removed att bloatware/unused ringtones and notifications
Changed boot animation
Gave already owned apps root permissions to do things like one touch reboot, auto dpi changing.
And right now I'm working on changing the color of my softkeys
Underclocked.
Once i get home from my business trip i plan on porting cwm and seeing what we can do from there
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Underlcocked? Why? So you can have a phone that runs for 3 years with eb40??
Hemotherapy said:
Underlcocked? Why? So you can have a phone that runs for 3 years with eb40??
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Lol I was thinking the same thing. The EB40 is an awesome upgrade and I def considering it. I just am at home and work where my phone can be charged all of the time anyways. Not to mention once we get some bloat free roms that run more efficiently, the EB20 should be okay.
After rooting,I install RootExplorer,SQ Lite,Titanium Backup,etc.
Unlocking stock wifi tethering and enabling stock sms delivery reports.
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First thing I'm going to do it over clock and undervolt once some good kernels come out. Next I'm going to play with volume plus to sweeten up the phone audio. Should be a fun experience!
Let the ROM games begin
Custom Roms make phones so much better
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AT&T's boot animation is lame
I've been thinking of getting rid of AT&T's boot animation since I saw it for the first time... My strongest option is the razr's m... Will it work no problem?
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I've been thinking of getting rid of AT&T's boot animation since I saw it for the first time... My strongest option is the razr's m... Will it work no problem?
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actually i just created a thread about that in the themes section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1942663
I so far have installed a few root apps and changed my boot animation, slowly starting to mess with phone now
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actually i just created a thread about that in the themes section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1942663
I so far have installed a few root apps and changed my boot animation, slowly starting to mess with phone now
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:I bricked my phone installing "beats installer" so be careful
Matt saved me, but still do not download it lol
SirHoover2010 said:
:I bricked my phone installing "beats installer" so be careful
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I am keeping up with all the root topics here so i know what not to do
Ad Free = 1st thing I did...God I hate ads
Yeah, I hate ads too! Especially on YouTube! I'm using 'Ad Away'. I didn't realize it would do away with the YouTube ads, I'm loving it!
Other things I've done thus far:
Changed my boot screen, installed SetCPU, installed an Emoji font modification, and installed Titanium Backup to rid myself of the bloat apps.
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Can i remove att addressbook?
Can i remove att addressbook? I hate ATT apps
Can anyone list the stock apps that can be uninstaller? THX!
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Ad Free = 1st thing I did...God I hate ads
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I did exactly the same. Installed ad free so my 19mo can't buy s#!t when she plays her animal matching game...
Deep rooted in the mAtrix HD...
http://android-gz.com
Lol just downloaded ad free
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i pushed a new spirit in my s2 after root....RESURRECTION.....
vic88 said:
Can i remove att addressbook? I hate ATT apps
Can anyone list the stock apps that can be uninstaller? THX!
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That's the first thing I ripped out. ...just did a quick check, as I've already forgotten all I ripped out, I have no AT&T apps left in my phone.
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ATGAdmin said:
That's the first thing I ripped out. ...just did a quick check, as I've already forgotten all I ripped out, I have no AT&T apps left in my phone.
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Removing the AT&T address book, this doesn't affect the contacts at all, particularly ones that are still on the Sim card?
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Gtalk isn't working for me with multi user. Says that only the owner can use.
Anyone else having this come up? Hopefully Google releases a fix -.-
Same problem here, my girlfriend can't use Google Talk within her profile which is very disappointing since the rest of Android 4.2 is absolutely great.
Hope, a fix or workaround will be released soon.
No problem here. Do a factory reset that will resolve most of your issues. And restore apps without data.
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Omar04 said:
No problem here. Do a factory reset that will resolve most of your issues. And restore apps without data.
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Can anybody having the same issue confirm, that factory reset solves this issue?
Thanks in advance!
Same Problem..gtalk only works with device owner ..
kled54 said:
Same Problem..gtalk only works with device owner ..
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same problem for me as well. I don't really want to do a factory reset just for this. I'm at work and without my tablet, so I can't test this, but does clearing data for google talk work as an alternative to factory resetting?
Same here. I think the error message is quite clear and easy to understand: the current google talk application is not compatible with multiuser environments. Update pending.
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Same here. I think the error message is quite clear and easy to understand: the current google talk application is not compatible with multiuser environments. Update pending.
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I would agree, but Omar04 claims he doesn't have issues, so it appears it is working for some people and not others, unless he is just mistaken.
I tried clear data, it didn't help.
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I tried a factory reset. Didn't work. I hope they are fixing this.
I think they rushed 4.2 out, I expect 4.2.1 soon.
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Brac20 said:
I tried a factory reset. Didn't work. I hope they are fixing this.
I think they rushed 4.2 out, I expect 4.2.1 soon.
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I'm hoping maybe this means Google talk will become an application that gets updates from the play store. I'd take a 4.2.1 release as well
chiefz0r said:
I'm hoping maybe this means Google talk will become an application that gets updates from the play store. I'd take a 4.2.1 release as well
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I totally agree with the Google Talk becoming a Google Play app. This would be awesome.
On the other hand, it didn't work by factory resetting ?
lambda30 said:
I totally agree with the Google Talk becoming a Google Play app. This would be awesome.
On the other hand, it didn't work by factory resetting ?
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And how should it help? Whis is totally pointless.
rzabcio said:
And how should it help? Whis is totally pointless.
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It would be nice because it continues the trend of separating application updates and new functionality from OS updates. It theoretically shouldn't matter on Nexus devices, because they get updates as soon as they are available.
A good example of where it would be great to have it in the play store would be for devices with carrier controlled updates.
My mom has a Droid Incredible 2 on VZW that does have a front facing camera, but the version of google talk doesn't support video chats. As it currently stands, she has to wait for the ICS update (or JB etc) to come out before having any chance of this getting solved. If Google could put it in the Play Store it would alleviate this issue.
They have clearly gone this path with many (most?) of their other apps at this point, so I don't see why it wouldn't continue.
To try and stay on topic though, I don't care too much if the multi-user gtalk problem is solved by an app update or an OS update as long as it gets solved. The multi-user implementation seems really great to me so far, but no gtalk is kind of a dealbreaker.
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It would be nice because it continues the trend of separating application updates and new functionality from OS updates. It theoretically shouldn't matter on Nexus devices, because they get updates as soon as they are available.
A good example of where it would be great to have it in the play store would be for devices with carrier controlled updates.
My mom has a Droid Incredible 2 on VZW that does have a front facing camera, but the version of google talk doesn't support video chats. As it currently stands, she has to wait for the ICS update (or JB etc) to come out before having any chance of this getting solved. If Google could put it in the Play Store it would alleviate this issue.
They have clearly gone this path with many (most?) of their other apps at this point, so I don't see why it wouldn't continue.
To try and stay on topic though, I don't care too much if the multi-user gtalk problem is solved by an app update or an OS update as long as it gets solved. The multi-user implementation seems really great to me so far, but no gtalk is kind of a dealbreaker.
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I couldn't have said it better myself.
lambda30 said:
I couldn't have said it better myself.
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Sorry, wrong quote. I meant - how factory reset could help?
I think too Gtalk's come back to Google Play could be a great idea.
rzabcio said:
Sorry, wrong quote. I meant - how factory reset could help?
I think too Gtalk's come back to Google Play could be a great idea.
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Well, I too think it won't help, but I saw what Omar04 suggested. Unfortunately I believe we have to wait for a 4.2.1 release or a Google Play app release to remedy this problem.
Update:
For some weird reason out of this planet when I first update using the OTA posted and added a new user Gtalk was working properly on both accounts, but now that I factory reset using Google factory images vía adb fastboot now I'm on same boat as you, no working Gtalk on other users.
That's my first and only issue at the moment. I will continue testing for some issues posted in several threads. Not related to apps because those resolve when apps get updated as MX Player a few hours ago.
Not able to reproduce the lag yet adding users. (3)
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Yesterday I reflashed Android 4.2 firmware from scratch (fastboot). Unfortunately the issue isn't solved. When I add another user, the new user isn't able to use Gtalk.
This is kind of frustrating. But right now, it's the only app, which really makes problems.
Omar04 said:
Update:
For some weird reason out of this planet when I first update using the OTA posted and added a new user Gtalk was working properly on both accounts, but now that I factory reset using Google factory images vía adb fastboot now I'm on same boat as you, no working Gtalk on other users.
That's my first and only issue at the moment. I will continue testing for some issues posted in several threads. Not related to apps because those resolve when apps get updated as MX Player a few hours ago.
Not able to reproduce the lag yet adding users. (3)
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Thanks for sharing these details. Let's hope they know about the problem already and are fixing it.
It's been awhile since I've done it, a long while and I know it can be done. Someone just chime on in and refresh my memory because this 4.3 just updates apps whenever the heck it wants to, turned on or not. I use TB to break market links but after rebooting it needs to be done again every time. Any feedback would be much appreciated
Nvr mind I figured it out
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Settings, Apps, All, Google Service Framework.
Force Stop, Clear Data.
Then check for update in About Phone.
Then repeat these steps, and the update shows up on the second check. Repeated this on 3 phones to get 4.4.2 where 4.4.1 hadn't even popped up previously.
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Note, this procedure is to be followed at your own risk. I have completed this successfully on 3 x Nexus 5 from v4.4, however I can not test all scenarios or be responsible for any subsequent issues, whether related to this method or not. If you cant accept this, then wait for the OTA.
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Settings, Apps, All, Google Service Framework.
Force Stop, Clear Data.
Then check for update in About Phone.
Then repeat these steps, and the update shows up on the second check. Repeated this on 3 phones to get 4.4.2 where 4.4.1 hadn't even popped up previously.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...to-never-clear-google-service-framework-data/
FunkyMagic-UK said:
Settings, Apps, All, Google Service Framework.
Force Stop, Clear Data.
Then check for update in About Phone.
Then repeat these steps, and the update shows up on the second check. Repeated this on 3 phones to get 4.4.2 where 4.4.1 hadn't even popped up previously.
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No. We already had a long thread about this. Please have a mod close this.
And not to sound rude - but if you're uncomfortable with sideload, you probably shouldn't have a Nexus.
I don't believe the Dan M statement is wholly accurate, given I've thoroughly checked the issues he says might arise.
I suspect it's more a case of him protecting Googles roll out schedule planning with a plausible explanation.
Not sure why someone not comfortable with sideloads shouldn't have a Nexus... it's just a regular consumer phone like any other.
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I don't believe the Dan M statement is wholly accurate, given I've thoroughly checked the issues he says might arise.
I suspect it's more a case of him protecting Googles roll out schedule planning with a plausible explanation.
Not sure why someone not comfortable with sideloads shouldn't have a Nexus... it's just a regular consumer phone like any other.
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1. If someone who writes the code for Google tells you not to do something and gives you a list of reasons, I would suggest listening. As pointed out in the thread it can cause problems and it isn't always something you notice.
2. Because there is no danger in sideloading. It will either work or refuse to flash.
3. It's a Nexus. It's meant for that kind of thing. It's EXTREMELY easy.
4. If they aren't comfortable with sideloading, they probably wouldn't know whether or not their device had an issue after the update. They could miss out on certain features, apps not functioning properly, etc. You are essentially telling someone computer illiterate that they should do something that could potentially mess something up on their device instead of doing something that is fool-proof. That's irresponsible. Not to mention - they wouldn't even know how to fix it if it did damage anything
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I don't believe the Dan M statement is wholly accurate, given I've thoroughly checked the issues he says might arise.
I suspect it's more a case of him protecting Googles roll out schedule planning with a plausible explanation.
Not sure why someone not comfortable with sideloads shouldn't have a Nexus... it's just a regular consumer phone like any other.
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What do you mean you've thoroughly checked? You've isolated and tested the behavior of every single app that uses GCM after a framework data clear?
I mean, you are essentially accusing an Android engineer of taking to reddit to lie.. but why? Considering they have provided an officially supported method of sideloading OTA updates the idea they are "protecting roll out schedule planning" is total nonsense.
There are only 2 possible scenarios here
1) Dan Morrill is being 100% truthful
2) Instead of simply disabling the "Clear Data" button in Framework which would be dead simple, Google has chosen to send engineers to social media to spread lies and misinformation
I upgraded from 4.4 to 4.4.2 with 0 problems , if Google says don't sideload what u gonna do no side load?
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seriously sideload is about the easiest way to do it other than being able to download it direct to the phone and parse the sdcard like the way phones used to work... i know windows machines and that whole "driver" thing you guys need to deal with can get annoying but it's really not difficult. if you are afriad of command prompts then wait the 2 weeks or so that it takes to get it rolled out.
People spend a good amount of time on making instructional threads, gathering information all in one place, doing everything in their power to make it easy for even a complete beginner to do stuff with their phones, and we still have people wanting them to do it the harder way.
And then they defend their thinking with some ridicilous conspiracy theory that completely contradicts the very nature of how Google DEMONSTRATES that they are 100% behind people sideloading (ie: taking the all of 30 seconds it takes to do) an upate onto their phone) by implying that they have a vested interest in slowing down the number of activations?
Seriously now.
You people crack me up. Before this person from google said do not do this we ALL did it multiple time on multiple devices at least I did. No core meltdowns... yet.
remember these are the same people who thought the Nexus 5 camera was good to go as is...
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What do you mean you've thoroughly checked? You've isolated and tested the behavior of every single app that uses GCM after a framework data clear?
I mean, you are essentially accusing an Android engineer of taking to reddit to lie.. but why? Considering they have provided an officially supported method of sideloading OTA updates the idea they are "protecting roll out schedule planning" is total nonsense.
There are only 2 possible scenarios here
1) Dan Morrill is being 100% truthful
2) Instead of simply disabling the "Clear Data" button in Framework which would be dead simple, Google has chosen to send engineers to social media to spread lies and misinformation
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It's not worth your time trying to explain this. There are those who will always believe they are right. They will continue to ignore knowledge provided by those who are experts on the matter and believe they are right.
The most common excuse I read is "I've been doing it for so long without any issues". The technical explanation clearly states that the issues that happen are more often than not invisible to the user. Then they'll take to XDA to create a bunch of threads about "OMGZZZZ MY PHONE IS BROKEZORZ, GOOGLE IS TURNING INTO APPLE...RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE" and not even think that the issues might be related to breaking GCM in an app or similar.
Who cares if it can be bad. It can often be easier than sideloading, especially if you don't have a computer near by. I did it while waiting for my plane the other day and it was nice to have the camera improvements before I got to my destination. Just plan to do a factory reset after you get the update if it bothers you.
Not to mention, I am fairly sure whenever you install Google Apps after installing a dirty flashing an updated ROM it does the same thing as clearing data on the framework. I have certain apps I always have to reinstall or they stop getting push updates after doing that.
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It's not worth your time trying to explain this. There are those who will always believe they are right. They will continue to ignore knowledge provided by those who are experts on the matter and believe they are right.
The most common excuse I read is "I've been doing it for so long without any issues". The technical explanation clearly states that the issues that happen are more often than not invisible to the user. Then they'll take to XDA to create a bunch of threads about "OMGZZZZ MY PHONE IS BROKEZORZ, GOOGLE IS TURNING INTO APPLE...RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE" and not even think that the issues might be related to breaking GCM in an app or similar.
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I don't want to progress yet another thread about this within two days, but I completely agree with your last point. I bet half of the people that do this will post on here in about a week saying their apps aren't syncing/working and "nexus 5 sucks" etc etc. I've already responded to someone who was asking about his gmail not syncing properly on 4.4.2. I asked him if he cleared the framework to get the update. Would be a great example if that's why he's having the problem.
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Not to mention, I am fairly sure whenever you install Google Apps after installing a dirty flashing an updated ROM it does the same thing as clearing data on the framework. I have certain apps I always have to reinstall or they stop getting push updates after doing that.
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That's not the point. He's not telling people who are familiar with these phones to do it. He's telling people who have no idea what the hell they are doing to do it.
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I don't want to progress yet another thread about this within two days, but I completely agree with your last point. I bet half of the people that do this will post on here in about a week saying their apps aren't syncing/working and "nexus 5 sucks" etc etc. I've already responded to someone who was asking about his gmail not syncing properly on 4.4.2. I asked him if he cleared the framework to get the update. Would be a great example if that's why he's having the problem.
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Alright, the real question here is after someone has cleared the framework, is there a way to recover or go back without restoring a backup or reflashing an OTA from scratch? Or does it just take time for Google to catch up? And DO they eventually catch up to the device? Or is it inevitably doomed once you clear. We can argue about why or why not, but lets figure out how.
Love how people jump on this guy or the one from yesterday who posted it. Been doing this on my past 4 devices. If something clears, wouldn't it be like hard resetting your device. All the information will get populated back. I also believe the engineer said there is a possibility something can go wrong. There is always the possibility something can go wrong with anything!
You can screw up your phone just taking an OOTO. People just need to let it go. We also do not know what his true intentions were for saying that.
If you do not want to clear data, then don't but don't tell others not to do it unless anyone here has experienced a problem first hand in doing so.
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Love how people jump on this guy or the one from yesterday who posted it. Been doing this on my past 4 devices. If something clears, wouldn't it be like hard resetting your device. All the information will get populated back. I also believe the engineer said there is a possibility something can go wrong. There is always the possibility something can go wrong with anything!
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It is not a question of 'if'. If you clear the services framework, Gmail notifications are 100% guaranteed to stop working for a time (could be 10 minutes, could be several days). Thankfully, Gmail is one of the few apps that will eventually realize the GCM id has changed and is able to deal with it. That is not the case for other apps.
The problem is people here don't see their phone or apps crashing and think everything is fine. But a week later they realize stuff isn't syncing or notifications aren't coming in and they blame it on the software update.
Again?? REALLY!! Google say no, like it or not they are the experts...
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Alright, the real question here is after someone has cleared the framework, is there a way to recover or go back without restoring a backup or reflashing an OTA from scratch? Or does it just take time for Google to catch up? And DO they eventually catch up to the device? Or is it inevitably doomed once you clear. We can argue about why or why not, but lets figure out how.
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His true intentions were to stop people from potentially messing up their phones and then ignorantly going online or on an apps review page and spouting off about how broken the app or phone is. To think differently makes no sense.
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I am stuck in boot loop with this method
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Hey All,
I'm a long-time Nexus guy (exclusively), so I'm embarrassingly worthless when it comes to other devices. My girlfriend has a Verizon Moto X (non-dev edition), and, when she got it, I got her R/W access and threw xposed and gravity box on there to give her a little more flexibility. She's running stock 4.4. When the 4.4.2 OTA came out, I glanced through some threads here, and it seemed to be that I could put the stock recovery back on and update her and lose the R/W, or ignore the update. I went into settings and turned off notifications for MotorolaOTA thinking that would keep her happy. But she is still getting prompted constantly to update, and it's making her crazy. Her number one priority is not having to set up her phone again. It's just not her thing. What's the best way to get this thing to go away? Is there an easy update solution I don't know about? Should I freeze the app using Titanium? What are others doing? I--and more importantly, she--would appreciate any suggestions.
Thanks.
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You can just freeze the app. That will take care of it. You can also check out kryptonite's thread on rootzwiki if you're interested in updating to 4.4.2 without losing root and r/w access.
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Use titanium to freeze 'MotorolaOTA 1.0' and it should vanish instantly.
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If you find conflicting information when searching then it would be best to pose a question based on what you found
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