Just seen some tweet stating that Sony is supplying Europe with older worse Exmor R sensors. The dude's probably a troll but it still got me worrying slightly. Is there any way to check the sensor model?
Sv: Exmor R or Exmor RS? Possible to check?
Maybe EXIF-data?
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Why the hell would they use Exmor RS as their strongest Z marketing point - and put Exmor R in it ?
L2R specsheets... Exmor R on front, Exmor RS on back.
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L2R specsheets... Exmor R on front, Exmor RS on back.
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Yeah but the dude is claiming that Sony is lying (as they did with screens tbf) so I wondered if there's a possibility to check.
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Yeah but the dude is claiming that Sony is lying (as they did with screens tbf) so I wondered if there's a possibility to check.
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They never stated they were going to use "Display X" or "Display Y". They only claimed to use 1080p display which they did - manufacturer/supplier is not our business as customers. That's not lying.
They did, however, promise you an Exmor RS sensor on the back, not R but specifically RS and that's what we got.
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LG Electronics has officially announced its first quad-core smartphone dubbed as Optimus 4X HD. Optimus 4X HD will be showcased at Mobile World Congress ( MWC ) in Barcelona...............
http://mirolta.com/2012/02/23/lg-announces-its-first-quad-core-smartphone-dubbed-as-optimus-4x-hd/
Another nice phone from LG..... good news. I wonder if they are going to announce if it is coming to the U.S. at the MWC.
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Another nice phone from LG..... good news. I wonder if they are going to announce if it is coming to the U.S. at the MWC.
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Another nice phone? You obviously never dealt with the G2X and the pile of garbage it was.
A vid of it.
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Another nice phone? You obviously never dealt with the G2X and the pile of garbage it was.
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Actually i did and i generally agree with you as most LG phones were released the past 2 years or even more are not that great. I was thinking more compared to their new releases such as the LG Parada 3.0 which i personally think its a pretty cool looking phone. I just hope that they improve their software so it would truly utilize the nice specs. Looks is not the only deciding factor here
All sounds good, but when are phones going to get past the 8MP camera hurdle? The Nokia n8 had 12mp what 2 years ago now?
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All sounds good, but when are phones going to get past the 8MP camera hurdle? The Nokia n8 had 12mp what 2 years ago now?
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Megapixels are completely meaningless, how have you not grasped this by 2012?
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All sounds good, but when are phones going to get past the 8MP camera hurdle? The Nokia n8 had 12mp what 2 years ago now?
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Megapixels are completely meaningless, how have you not grasped this by 2012?
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That's right, but in case anyone is interested Sony Xperia S (and Xperia Ion too I think) has a 12MP camera with Exmor (CMOS) sensor.
I work with LG in Korea and they are very worried about their mobile business at the moment. Samsung are destroying them in the domestic market.
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Megapixels are completely meaningless, how have you not grasped this by 2012?
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Hi oh mighty flippant one... the n8 also has the Carl Zeiss lens and Xenon flash ... are these meaningless too?
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I work with LG in Korea and they are very worried about their mobile business at the moment. Samsung are destroying them in the domestic market.
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Well I think LG should know why they are losing to Samsung... They make great hardware, but scrappy software(relatively good in p880 though) and horrible customer support(In other countries I don't know about Korea). They don't improve much despite much complains. How would you expect them to not lose to Samsung, which is well received by many?
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Hi oh mighty flippant one... the n8 also has the Carl Zeiss lens and Xenon flash ... are these meaningless too?
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Nope, but they weren't the topic. When it comes to Fotography in these tiny devices with their tiny lenses, he's right: more than 8 MBits are indeed completely useless. Even much large sensor chips in say a Canon G10, which had 14 Mpixels, had to many ... which is why Canon went back to LESS Mpixels. In fact, more MPixels in such a tiny thing are contraproductive, you get more electrical interference and no gain. The most important thing here is the sensors size, which is tiny in all phones. But: Since they all got completely crappy lenses, it's true, that the better one in the N8 can improve qiality, even with the tiny sensor. If you want anything more decent, the senor has to grow and there needs to be much better (foldable?) optics. The N8 is about the best you can do with such a tiny setup.
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Well I think LG should know why they are losing to Samsung... They make great hardware, but scrappy software(relatively good in p880 though) and horrible customer support(In other countries I don't know about Korea). They don't improve much despite much complains. How would you expect them to not lose to Samsung, which is well received by many?
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Seems so ... although, I had two updates on the 4X after I bought it .. that's not bad. And the phone runs pretty well stock. Maybe they did learn a bit. I'd find it sad, if they get into problems, because no big player like Samsung should be allowed to dominate everything ... pseudo monopolies are crap. Samsungs support is also quite far from perfect. The Update App from them on my Samsung Notebook fails often, can't connect, their server structure for it is extremely slow and you can't even manually download the drivers instead, because they don't maintain their download area properly. Asus is far better for instance in that respect (and still not perfect). Samsung also got too big to care about customers much anymore, but their software has a better developer team than LG. (I also find LGs update software for the PC unspeakably terrible).
i wanna buy a new phone but it's really hard to choose between these monsters, lg g2 5.2 inch ips lcd seems to have higher quality but xperia z1 has Triluminos , g2 is more ergonomic, but xperia z1 have premium look( premium look is important for me) and waterproof, having sd slot is not a big deal for me, cuz lg g2 with 32 internal storage do the same for me. some people say lg g2 has better camera some says sony z1. well feel confused , any idea? whos the winner?
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i wanna buy a new phone but it's really hard to choose between these monsters, lg g2 5.2 inch ips lcd seems to have higher quality but xperia z1 has Triluminos , g2 is more ergonomic, but xperia z1 have premium look( premium look is important for me) and waterproof, having sd slot is not a big deal for me, cuz lg g2 with 32 internal storage do the same for me. some people say lg g2 has better camera some says sony z1. well feel confused , any idea? whos the winner?
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Camera isn't better, they may have a good software, but really in terms of hardware:
Sony:
Aperture size: Sony F2.0 LG F2.4
Focal length (35mm equivalent): Sony 27mm LG 29mm
Camera sensor size: Sony 1/2.3" LG 1/3.06"
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As you can see the difference is huge whatever people say on the latest sony fw, camera is very good and in future upgrades can only be much better.
Look and Feel and premium, mmm, LG white is nice and look a bit premium, the black one seems a plastic bag. Z1 looks more premium than an iphone, still have some issues like no oleophobic screen.
Is a difficult decision, I know I was in the middle too, but since the amount of money is quite big I thought that in the Z1: 20mp camera + Unibody is more justified.
lg g2 supprt micro sd?
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lg g2 supprt micro sd?
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no, it does not. i think thats a huge disadvantage.
i was torn between these 2 phones.
Waterproofing, SD Card is a big plus to me
also had 2 LG Phones in the past and both needed the batteries replacing within 1 year so an LG phone with a fixed battery is a big NO NO for me.
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no, it does not. i think thats a huge disadvantage.
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in my opinion z1 is better it is water proof and anti dust and support micro sd card up to 64 GB.
I actually own both phones (was facing the same choice) and after a long time of using them both I think I'm going with the Z1...
The G2 has a great (and imo better) screen, the formfactor is perfect and has a great camera during day. Battery is amazing and wifi/data connection strength beats the Z1. But it just doesn't have the 'wow' factor for me... I also have the 16GB version (only one available in my country) which is not great... Also, LG support has never been to great in the past to say the least.
The LG camera is pretty good, but gets worse quickly with less light. While still photos will be fine (if you don't zoom in to much) it will be a lot slower and struggle to get the light in.
The Z1 in the end has the better overall camera imo, and I hope it improves with future updates. Larger storage (+microsd) and a more premium/special feel. So, still not completely convinced, I think in the end I prefer the Z1 more... Especially if premium look and water resistance are important I guess the Z1 is the way to gol.
Both are great phones thoug,h, can't go wrong on either of them.
The Power button is on back, hmm no.
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The Power button is on back, hmm no.
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No issue at all, and you can simply doubletap the screen to wake the phone...
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no, it does not. i think thats a huge disadvantage.
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Unless you can source the Korean version. That has extSD support.
I agree with the fact that it has a premium feel, and I'm a satisfied owner of one for 3 days now. My only complaint is the screen compared to any other smartphone, as well as there's this rattling sound when you tap certain parts of its body. Yes it seems to be coming from the camera and I know most phones have a rattling sound coming from the camera optics, but I dont think it should be audible when just tapping the phone on certain parts.
Xperia Z1 is much better than LG G2. I sold both LG G2 and Nexus 5 and got Xperia Z1.
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Would i be able to freely take pictures underwater with this cellphone or is there a certain limit of times it can dive underwater?
is it stil worth buying it in 2014 for 375 bucks?
Is it better than the g2?
I used my phone to take picture this summer every day for about half hour a day. I even recorded few videos per day.
My friend uploaded one to youtube so i will share you here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InN29dnyFRg
P.s. Not a single problem on my unit after "abusing" waterproofnes.
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Hello
Would i be able to freely take pictures underwater with this cellphone or is there a certain limit of times it can dive underwater?
is it stil worth buying it in 2014 for 375 bucks?
Is it better than the g2?
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Z1 is old model now and I prefer you to get the Z2 instead or the latest Z3 if you have enough budget
It is able to take photos or videos underwater by using the volume up/down or camera button
You can use it as many times as you want
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Z1 is old model now and I prefer you to get the Z2 instead or the latest Z3 if you have enough budget
It is able to take photos or videos underwater by using the volume up/down or camera button
You can use it as many times as you want
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Hm thanks, i'd get the z2 but the price jumps from 370 bucks to 470 bucks. i don't see the need since the only upgrade i notice is the snapdragon 801 wich isn't that much of a upgrade.
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Hm thanks, i'd get the z2 but the price jumps from 370 bucks to 470 bucks. i don't see the need since the only upgrade i notice is the snapdragon 801 wich isn't that much of a upgrade.
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Not only that,the speaker was upgraded to dual front stereo speakers and also a 3GB of ram with IPS display.Btw,that is your choice on getting the Z1...
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Not only that,the speaker was upgraded to dual front stereo speakers and also a 3GB of ram with IPS display.Btw,that is your choice on getting the Z1...
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Price is out of my range :/
btw, does this phone scratches easily? does it have that scratch film that if you remove removes the logo with it?
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I got another question aswell, if you say the z1 isn't worth it, would u say it'd be better to get a LG G2?
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Price is out of my range :/
btw, does this phone scratches easily? does it have that scratch film that if you remove removes the logo with it?
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I got another question aswell, if you say the z1 isn't worth it, would u say it'd be better to get a LG G2?
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Yes the Z1 have the scratch film that removes the Sony logo if you remove it.I'm not sure about it as I use the Z only.Simply buy a case and cover so that it won't be scratched.
Comparing to the LG G2,it has 5.2" IPS display while Z1 is 5.0" TFT display.Other than that,all specs are exactly same.Of course,Z1 has the dust and waterproof IP rating...
So it depends on which brand you are looking for and try to get a hands on on both devices.
Camera rocks
Stamina mode rocks
Under water they say 30 minutes at 1m
Quite simple and sleek ROM
Android 5.0 soon
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Camera rocks
Stamina mode rocks
Under water they say 30 minutes at 1m
Quite simple and sleek ROM
Android 5.0 soon
Big factors
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I've been seing A LOT of complaints in the sony mobile forums, from overheating to touchscreen not working.
has any of you guys experienced any of this?
i'm getting scared by all these complaints and might get a g2.
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I've been seing A LOT of complaints in the sony mobile forums, from overheating to touchscreen not working.
has any of you guys experienced any of this?
i'm getting scared by all these complaints and might get a g2.
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I have none of this.
In my opinion, i dont have a single problem with my phone.
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I have none of this.
In my opinion, i dont have a single problem with my phone.
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Thanks. could anyone else post if you had or never had any problem with this smartphone?
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Thanks. could anyone else post if you had or never had any problem with this smartphone?
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I have absoluty no issue at all..
cool cool. thanks c:
It is absolutely worth buying! Great original rom(my first phone without a custom rom), great dev options(damn, I just love Flashtool!), waterproof, great camera(manual or with Xposed), physical camera button, great specs and I also love the design! I always root my phones(first thing I do after a proper charge) and had ghosttouches! Was easy to fix, just changed the clearpad settings(root is needed because clearpad is a system file)! Only the speaker disappoints me!
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It is absolutely worth buying! Great original rom(my first phone without a custom rom), great dev options(damn, I just love Flashtool!), waterproof, great camera(manual or with Xposed), physical camera button, great specs and I also love the design! I always root my phones(first thing I do after a proper charge) and had ghosttouches! Was easy to fix, just changed the clearpad settings(root is needed because clearpad is a system file)! Only the speaker disappoints me!
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It is in my hands finally.
I've never seen such an awesome smartphone ever, and also i don't know if it is because i got the "newest" version, but the viewing angles are just great, i can actually see everything looking at an angle of about 140 degrees.
the phone feels so good, but the speaker is in a bad place, you cover it up while gaming, it heats up quite a lot when gaming but that was to be expected.
i still haven't risked placing it underwater thou, a lot of complaints of malfunction after doing that.
Hi Guys
Its being a year with my Z...had lot of problems
But This one is major now,Camera got some weird black spots
Any solution for it?
Regret buying this phone
I've done evrythng...my lens is not scratched...but the ports of usb and earphones are damanged
brother, we're in the same boat.. although you're using Z but it's same as my ZL. Currently i have the same issue as yours but i'll fix it by replacing the camera part..
Now, i'm afraid that the camera would be damaged again, so i use Sony QX-10 as alternative.
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daniLaLaLaLaLa said:
brother, we're in the same boat.. although you're using Z but it's same as my ZL. Currently i have the same issue as yours but i'll fix it by replacing the camera part..
Now, i'm afraid that the camera would be damaged again, so i use Sony QX-10 as alternative.
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But i dont think the camera module will be same as the original one...i am afraid...most probably i will also get a qx10..how much does it cost?
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But i dont think the camera module will be same as the original one...i am afraid...most probably i will also get a qx10..how much does it cost?
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yes it wont be original, it's aftermarket one..but i don't mind as i want to have my phone in perfect condition always..
Btw, i buy QX10 for MYR780,
converting.. about around 200USD in my country.
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Hi there! i replaced my camera module for about $20...Now its alryt u can also do it @daniLaLaLaLaLa
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Hi there! i replaced my camera module for about $20...Now its alryt u can also do it @daniLaLaLaLaLa
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yes, that's what i'm talking about.. just use aftermarket camera module and you'll be fine..
for the best camera experience, i suggest you get sony qx-10 or more power than that since
i actually a bit dissapoint about camera quality in xperia.
Can anyone confirm if this device have both features? Thanks.
Mine has both.
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Mine has both.
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Thanks. How good is the performance tho? I heard people saying 7904 for that price won't cut it.
For its price.. its ok.. ther arent many amoled phones at this price point that has nfc and gyro.
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All applications are running smoothly.. so far..
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For its price.. its ok.. ther arent many amoled phones at this price point that has nfc and gyro.
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All applications are running smoothly.. so far..
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One more thing about 4K recording, I saw the phone can do 4K at only 20fps with the help of third party cams on gsmareana. Can you confirm?