Hello,
Can dust pass from the OB ports (e.g. the audio jack, microusb port) into under the screen or inside the phone?
ohadz said:
Hello,
Can dust pass from the OB ports (e.g. the audio jack, microusb port) into under the screen or inside the phone?
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NO. Seriously.... The audio jack I closed tight... the micro USB too. I even used a flashlight to help you find out...
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The dust will not get on screen. There is thin fine gasket between screen and glass
But some little dust may get inside phone not sure
But never keep phone open when not in use
Don't touch with greasy dusty hands
Use good pouch to keep the phone
Take care to keep the phone on some Matt on your Office table.
Take care
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Hi friends, I bought black Xperia Z recently and I am loving it
I have lil doubts
1) I dont like cases. So anyone have faced any scratches on lens when case was not using and was kept on flat surfaces?
2) Does removing of flaps for charging everyday affects water resistance property?
3) Does the phone gets scratches when case was not used when you take it out of jeans every time?
Any help is appreciated
Thank You
arpith.fbi said:
Hi friends, I bought black Xperia Z recently and I am loving it
I have lil doubts
1) I dont like cases. So anyone have faced any scratches on lens when case was not using and was kept on flat surfaces?
2) Does removing of flaps for charging everyday affects water resistance property?
3) Does the phone gets scratches when case was not used when you take it out of jeans every time?
Any help is appreciated
Thank You
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Have been using it for like 4 months plus and no scratches on the lens. I didn't use any casing though. But at the top side corner of the phone just beside the headphone flap, the rubber thingy came off a bit when I dropped it once. And removing of flaps a lot will make the flap loose. Mine wouldn't close properly now. Many suggests to use a dock for charging.
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joejoe23 said:
Have been using it for like 4 months plus and no scratches on the lens. I didn't use any casing though. But at the top side corner of the phone just beside the headphone flap, the rubber thingy came off a bit when I dropped it once. And removing of flaps a lot will make the flap loose. Mine wouldn't close properly now. Many suggests to use a dock for charging.
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looks like flaps wont survive for a year also..will look into charging dock..but everytime-everywhere it wont be handy..
A full set of flaps - very cheap ($7)
arpith.fbi said:
looks like flaps wont survive for a year also..will look into charging dock..but everytime-everywhere it wont be handy..
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But I took out the flaps a lot. To charge and transfer data,to use for USB tethering when I I haven't got my WiFi activated yet.
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My main concern is results after frequent putting in and taking out of the jeans pocket.. I noticed some hairline scratches on screen but I do have screen guard on it.. It means body can also get scratched where the body is exposed and not covered by screen guard.
Any recommendations on cases? Normal case or flip case? I know it depends on person to person. Just wanna know what ppl normally use with xz
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arpith.fbi said:
Hi friends, I bought black Xperia Z recently and I am loving it
I have lil doubts
1) I dont like cases. So anyone have faced any scratches on lens when case was not using and was kept on flat surfaces?
2) Does removing of flaps for charging everyday affects water resistance property?
3) Does the phone gets scratches when case was not used when you take it out of jeans every time?
Any help is appreciated
Thank You
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Just fix the screen guards that are provided in the box..cases are just failsafes if u drop ur phone accidentally..even if any scratches occur,u can always change the screenguard later and the frequent removal of flaps doesn't affect the water resistance much,just don't forget to close the flaps after using them..just don't drop ur xz..enjoy
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I'm not sure if anyone is aware, but the flappy charging port cover is just dust protection cover, it provides no waterproofing. I cut mine off months ago it's very annoying. It does not affect the phone's ability to survive 1 meter of water for 30 minutes.
My phone see's water daily in the shower or going wakesurfing. Still working like brand new since day 1!
I don't know that I'd be willing to risk it. How can something possibly prevent water from entering, but allow dust in? Even if the port is sealed off from the rest of the device (like the headphone port), you have to consider that you are introducing electricity into the environment. Any amount of residual water can and will cause a short.
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I don't know that I'd be willing to risk it. How can something possibly prevent water from entering, but allow dust in? Even if the port is sealed off from the rest of the device (like the headphone port), you have to consider that you are introducing electricity into the environment. Any amount of residual water can and will cause a short.
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It makes sense. Sealing it off to prevent water intrusion w/o the flap seems pretty easy, but to make the port dust proof you'd need the flap (the innards of the phone would be water/dust proof behind the connection port, the flap would be to keep the dust out of the port only)
I won't try it but if you're saying it works for you I'll feel a little better when the wife's port cover rips off...
That's good to know, mine's been getting looser and looser and I've been more worried to go near water since it isn't feeling so tight anymore!
Keep in mind that if you have at&t, this should be covered under the 1 year warranty. You may have to argue a bit with the rep, but I got mine replaced when it pulled off.
As a fixer, I decided to test this theory. My friend's two year old ripped her charge port cover off and wanted me to fix it. I've been looking for the past day, and haven't found anything that is a direct replacement, just filler pieces for generic micro-USB or for the S3 ports (same thing, really).
So I took the phone apart so I could see the inside, and I, using electrical contact cleaner spray so I don't break the phone, barely pulled the trigger so it would dribble down into the port instead of blast everywhere. Well, I saw contact cleaner on the inside of the phone within like 2 seconds.
Conclusion: the charge port is not sealed. It might handle a splash if you let the port dry out, but forget about dunking it.
As a tip, search eBay for "6pcs Micro USB Port Dust Cap Cover for Samsung Galaxy S III S3 GT-I9300 (Black)". That is the title of the listing where I found 6 filler pieces for $5 USD, while the popular link provided in these forums for TOPI Covers (topicovers .com/products/micro-usb-port-cover) sells them at $2 each.
I contacted the support center for the store (Elkjp, a norwegian national store owned the Dixon Group) where I bought my Galaxy S4 Active about the cover for the USB-connector, and got this reply (translated into English):
"According to the manufacturer the USB-connector itself is waterproof without the rubber cover. The robber cover is only for dust protection. Normally the warranty does not cover water damage, but with some products, like you Galaxy S4 Active, we will approve your warranty request if water have penetrated into the phone, as long as it has no other visual damages."
Unsure who the store's support supervisor has contacted for this informastion, might be just a wild quess by the supervisor or Samsung in Norway. The manufacturer warranty in Norway is 2 year for Samsung mobile phones, and national customer warranty/complaints are 5 years for mobile phones, according to Norwegian law.
Clarence_C said:
As a fixer, I decided to test this theory. My friend's two year old ripped her charge port cover off and wanted me to fix it. I've been looking for the past day, and haven't found anything that is a direct replacement, just filler pieces for generic micro-USB or for the S3 ports (same thing, really).
So I took the phone apart so I could see the inside, and I, using electrical contact cleaner spray so I don't break the phone, barely pulled the trigger so it would dribble down into the port instead of blast everywhere. Well, I saw contact cleaner on the inside of the phone within like 2 seconds.
Conclusion: the charge port is not sealed. It might handle a splash if you let the port dry out, but forget about dunking it.
As a tip, search eBay for "6pcs Micro USB Port Dust Cap Cover for Samsung Galaxy S III S3 GT-I9300 (Black)". That is the title of the listing where I found 6 filler pieces for $5 USD, while the popular link provided in these forums for TOPI Covers (topicovers .com/products/micro-usb-port-cover) sells them at $2 each.
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No offense, but you sound less than scientific and I see numerous holes in your testing. If the device is rated by the manufacturer to be waterproof without the USB flap then it seems unreasonable to question without definitive evidence that it is not, which thus far you have failed to provide.
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i agree. dont mock if you are no expert!!
The IP67 rating is based upon 1 meter of water depth for 30 minutes without water intrusion. This requires positive sealing methods like the silicone gasket on the cover with snap clips holding it down with pressure. A little flappy cover that just sets in place provides no sealing what so ever at 1.4psi.
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No offense, but you sound less than scientific and I see numerous holes in your testing. If the device is rated by the manufacturer to be waterproof without the USB flap then it seems unreasonable to question without definitive evidence that it is not, which thus far you have failed to provide.
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I checked the manual (from Samsung.com) and on page 11 says it's NOT waterproof without the USB cover correctly in place:
"Caution! Be careful not to damage or detach the multipurpose jack cover. A damaged or missing cover can result in water damage to the device."
It may be a CYA note, or maybe it's not water-resistant without the cover. As far as I can find this is the only 'official' word on whether or not it's water-resistant without the flap (which its supposedly not). I'm not doubting the OP by any means, if his phone works without the cover that's great, but I'm not going to rip mine off on purpose to test it out.
TwoStroker37 said:
The IP67 rating is based upon 1 meter of water depth for 30 minutes without water intrusion. This requires positive sealing methods like the silicone gasket on the cover with snap clips holding it down with pressure. A little flappy cover that just sets in place provides no sealing what so ever at 1.4psi.
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So, a rubber stopper in a sink or bathtub will not seal because the water is only a few inches deep?
In theory, the flap will always seal if it fits well (no dirt, cracks, etc.) and the pressure outside the phone is greater than the pressure inside the phone, but not so great a difference to structurally deform or damage the seal. If the phone remains vertical with the flap at the bottom, it doesn't need the seal at all. Think of an inverted bottle without a cap. You can push it down into the water, but the air remains inside.
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Water proof cover.
If you do not like the dust cover on the phone you can try a piece of silicone ear plugs. The are designed to keep water out of your ears when swimming just don't force it into deep in the usb port. If your still not satisfied and you want to dunk the phone a simple zip lock bag works great for most phone and you can still use the touch screen though it will not be as sensitive. I have used plastic bags to keep my phone dry in the rain several times. Good luck, hope this was helpful.
Yes It is bit worry for me also and my phone is now out of warranty and I can not replace it.
Wadell said:
[/COLOR]The Samsung Galaxy S4 wireless charging kit is now available directly through Samsung’s accessory store. Should you choose to make charging on your GS4 “hassle free,” be prepared to shell out $90. In order to become a wireless charging machine, the Galaxy S4 needs both a charging cover (battery cover replacement) and the charging pad (pictured above). The back cover runs $39.99, while the pad will cost $49.99. If there is one added bonus to the charging pad, it’s the fact that it should work with all Qi-certified wireless charging products, so you could get some additional use out of it.
We’ve got links to Samsung’s site below for those who are interested.
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Where did you find the original samsung wireless covers?
I cant find them anywhere?
Do you have a link?
BR
The S4 cover is different than the S4 Active for obvious reasons. It won't fit.
my-blue-snog-box said:
Keep in mind that if you have at&t, this should be covered under the 1 year warranty. You may have to argue a bit with the rep, but I got mine replaced when it pulled off.
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Did they send you the part or did you have to send your phone to them? I don't mind replacing it myself. I ripped mine as well and I also noticed that it isn't as loud with the cover off(noticed that before it ripped off). Either way, I use my phone for work, so I can't be without a phone for weeks while they fix something.
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Did they send you the part or did you have to send your phone to them? I don't mind replacing it myself. I ripped mine as well and I also noticed that it isn't as loud with the cover off(noticed that before it ripped off). Either way, I use my phone for work, so I can't be without a phone for weeks while they fix something.
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They sent me a replacement, and only once I got that in the mail did I have to send in the defective unit.
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Confirmed cover not for waterproofing
I wanted to reiterate this statement. I spoke to Samsung technical support today and they confirmed that cover is just a dust cover. It has nothing to do with keeping water out of the phone. Mine broke off and I'm not going to attempt to replace it.
TwoStroker37 said:
I'm not sure if anyone is aware, but the flappy charging port cover is just dust protection cover, it provides no waterproofing. I cut mine off months ago it's very annoying. It does not affect the phone's ability to survive 1 meter of water for 30 minutes.
My phone see's water daily in the shower or going wakesurfing. Still working like brand new since day 1!
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Im not quite sure that usb port cover flap is only to protect from dust. Then why on every video, instructions, manuals, after unplugging usb cable there is a warning to close usb cover and in camera Aqua Mode too, if not closed properly this situation water will damage phone? I havent heard of wateroroof usb. Every waterproof phone has usb cover that protect usb port. Theres only waterproof headphone jack
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I read this few mins ago and now im scared about it.
...yes its water resistent but valid for few months.. because it has litmus paper in every port which after few months will become red on exposure to water even withall ports closed and once it gets red your warrenty will be void and then the phone camera will start getting moisture and your image will be blur and then the service people will tell you about litmus and will ask you 80% of the phone value for new phone even if there is small problem as it can't be open...
IS THIS TRUE?
My paper is red on headphone jack port.
It became red, but the times I washed my phone all the flaps were perfectly closed.
Maybe, its water resistant for some months because the flaps will become ruined..
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All my papers are red too. I even had water in my camera. My back came off(just a little) due to Heath and when I washed it the water got it.
Everything is still working but all papers are red.
I'm gonna RMA the phone soon because of black dots in the camera. I wonder what they will say.
UrbanSkullKid said:
I read this few mins ago and now im scared about it.
...yes its water resistent but valid for few months.. because it has litmus paper in every port which after few months will become red on exposure to water even withall ports closed and once it gets red your warrenty will be void and then the phone camera will start getting moisture and your image will be blur and then the service people will tell you about litmus and will ask you 80% of the phone value for new phone even if there is small problem as it can't be open...
IS THIS TRUE?
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yeah its true, you can check the discussion on the xperia z general forums about the backplate coming out unglued
Sony Xperia Z > Xperia Z General > {DISCUSSION}Xperia Z back glass coming unglued
just read carefully from the first post what are people talking about and you'll find out by yourself for me, i tread the phone water resistant features as an insurance for such unexpectecd thing happens. also, some people suggest that you can make the litmus paper colored white again by cleaning it or rubbing it with cotton buds using a small amount of bleach,
uhmm...
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My paper is red on headphone jack port.
It became red, but the times I washed my phone all the flaps were perfectly closed.
Maybe, its water resistant for some months because the flaps will become ruined..
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i removed my headphone jack flap and the paper is still white and i even checked the charging port white again but the micro sd card slot paper is a little bit pink just a little what does that mean?
UrbanSkullKid said:
i removed my headphone jack flap and the paper is still white and i even checked the charging port white again but the micro sd card slot paper is a little bit pink just a little what does that mean?
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Water came in, so basically no warranty
All the papers on my phone were red, still got my phone repaired for free,they test the seals and the flaps and if any of them are faulty they will carry out the repairs free of charge under the warranty.
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