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If I install unbuto on my computer will I still have access to files allready on hard drive? Is is able to use my wifi etc.?
wifi should work, with jaunty. as for the files i believe anything but what is in itunes u can import. good luck!
I have a sneaking suspicion that you might want to first learn how to spell your chosen distro's name before attempting to make the leap from Windows to Linux.
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If I install unbuto on my computer will I still have access to files allready on hard drive? Is is able to use my wifi etc.?
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What does this have to do with the HTC Dream/TMobile G1 devices?
I have to agree that on first look, it does appear that the G1 is unrelated to ubuntu and linux...
However...after getting a G1 with it's open source OS and no longer needing the horrible mess that is activesync, I too have moved to open source on my desktop (well, laptop...) - I tried ubuntu but switched to Mint (which is based on ubuntu but I prefer it).
Android is so easy going that it'll work with any operating system and is one of the first phones I've had where it is an easy fit. I've even managed to sort out music syncing similar to itunes or Winamp for android and I'm well happy.
I very rarely boot into my windows partition any more and that is thanks to android.
As regards the question about accessing your files, yes, most of them will be compatible with linux equivalents but back everything up before you install it - in most cases, putting it on will require at the least, some messing with partitions on your disk which is inherently risky, and at worst, a total re-format.
I keep my windows around for games (C&C!!!) and very little else nowadays and am more than happy with linux.
So's my phone ;-)
if youre on vista it is a b*ich to partition since it takes up space it is not even using, but yea you should be able to keep youre files
Has anyone have a confirmed full install of ubuntu/debian/gentoo (arm verisons of course) on the dream? not the terminal emulator boot img but a full over right of android and install of linux. Or is it no ones done it because theres not enough support for it driver wise? what is not supported for it? Can someone leave me with some answers not more questions? (i think thats impossible now that i think about it)
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The reason no one has answered is because no one has had a fully working debian system with a gui like kde or gnome. Question would yo really want a desktop gui on your tiny little sdreen that your fingers would be too big to have any functionly
Can it be done?
Most definitely. Easy. It would require some customization (i.e. drivers), but this is relatively minor.
Has anyone done it?
Maybe, not to many as this is something for which there would be little demand.
Why not?
Because it does not make sense. As mentioned above, the physical form is the first problem you'll run into. The second problem is that your phone will cease to work *as a phone*. You also couldn't run any 'droid apps on it at all.
Why would you want to?
(note: this question is for YOU to answer.)
lbcoder said:
Can it be done?
Most definitely. Easy. It would require some customization (i.e. drivers), but this is relatively minor.
Has anyone done it?
Maybe, not to many as this is something for which there would be little demand.
Why not?
Because it does not make sense. As mentioned above, the physical form is the first problem you'll run into. The second problem is that your phone will cease to work *as a phone*. You also couldn't run any 'droid apps on it at all.
Why would you want to?
(note: this question is for YOU to answer.)
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well, mainly a proof of concept and if you've checked my track record you'll notice i don't even have my g1 to use as a phone. i've been trying to make it into a pretty well rounded mid. But my question is how would i do it? flash all internet memory, then push the new linux kernel, filesystem etc onto the device and cross my fingers and hope for the best? or could you trick the system into thinking its a android update and have it install that way? And down the road could you use a regular bootloader like LILO or grub to duel boot or would you have to ghetto rig something?
(p.s: a terminal based is what i was thinking of in the first place i always got ssh for the heavy lifting )
technically the g1 is a tri-boot
1.) standard os that we use as normal
2) recovery patition. where we flash our update.zips
3) bootloader. where it fastboots or flash.nbh to overwrite entire system
so for what you would like to do is build a moddified boot.img to load up the nessciary files to boot your linux distrom maybe you could even set up switchrom to doit so when you need to use android you still have the option. there is a thread on how to run debian through the terminal maybe you could moddify that to work for you but getting the drivers for the files needed to be able to do anything would be the main issue. give me a sec and i will edit this posts with the links to that threadand how to make a boot.img
here is boot.img
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-443994.html
here is installing debian on g1, newest info is towards the end, i didn't read through it but last time i looked someone was close to what you want
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444419
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well, mainly a proof of concept and if you've checked my track record you'll notice i don't even have my g1 to use as a phone. i've been trying to make it into a pretty well rounded mid. But my question is how would i do it? flash all internet memory, then push the new linux kernel, filesystem etc onto the device and cross my fingers and hope for the best? or could you trick the system into thinking its a android update and have it install that way? And down the road could you use a regular bootloader like LILO or grub to duel boot or would you have to ghetto rig something?
(p.s: a terminal based is what i was thinking of in the first place i always got ssh for the heavy lifting )
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Why on earth don't you just get a $200 netbook that WILL run a fully functional linux install? Its cheaper, faster and has better hardware...
Diceman4 said:
Why on earth don't you just get a $200 netbook that WILL run a fully functional linux install? Its cheaper, faster and has better hardware...
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weres the fun in that? and how many can say they have a FULL debain pocket device? none thats right and if the wifi would work it would be a fun machine for text based things.
HOLY SH- New plan after a full debian install lets see if i can get some dos running who doesn't want monkey island and fallout 1?
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weres the fun in that? and how many can say they have a FULL debain pocket device? none thats right and if the wifi would work it would be a fun machine for text based things.
HOLY SH- New plan after a full debian install lets see if i can get some dos running who doesn't want monkey island and fallout 1?
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There's a scumm emulator if you're that desperate for Monley Island >.>
I agree with the others, it's like wanting to run Android on some pimp-ass quad core rig, it seems like a good idea....if you happen to be intoxicated. Running a full blown window manager on a 3.2" screen is just insane...
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There's a scumm emulator if you're that desperate for Monley Island >.>
I agree with the others, it's like wanting to run Android on some pimp-ass quad core rig, it seems like a good idea....if you happen to be intoxicated. Running a full blown window manager on a 3.2" screen is just insane...
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so your telling me you would not have fun with a tiny desktop in your pocket?
Here's a suggestion. Put a modified kernel/init stuff on the recovery partition, install your system onto sdcard. Regular boot = 'droid, recovery boot = 'deb.
Note: you WILL have to use a kernel that is built with the appropriate drivers for the dream hardware.
Note2: you will probably have some driver problems re getting Xorg running on the dream hardware. I don't think its vesa compatible, so you'll most likely have to hack together an xorg driver.
well, actually it has been done already, check the thread on the regular android-chroot-debian... "FukTheRegister" has posted a fastboot boot.img that runs the ubuntu net install right on the g1, however you will have to use usb0 networking to install it...
So i'll be going to pick up my pi from ups tomorrow, and thought i would get somew advice from those wiser then myself.
The main function for my pi will be as a media player, from my external hdd. But i also want it to act as a server for the drive, allowing streaming and file transfers through my lan for both android devices and win vista/7 computers. In addition i would like it to serve as a network bridge for my xbox(i'm too cheap to spring for a wifi reciever) via ethernet. Also some light web broswing/youtubeing.
My big question is: Which OS would be best for these purposes, and what programs/packages would i need. Would i be better off with openelec or raspbmc. Or raspian with xbmc? This is somewhat new territory for me, and i'm anxious to learn. I would love to hear everyone's thoughts on what would work best
As you want to do different tasks I would recommend the standard Debian to you, because it's designed for general tasks. Special distributions like raspmbc are designed for one thing they are good at (my humble point of view )
I would install android on this device, of course with a costum rom spezial for the device... I hope some developers would do it Then I want buy me a Raspberry Pi too
Yeah if you wanted to have the option of downloading applications other than xbmc, like browser, games, etc. then i would suggest installing a Debian based system such as Raspian.
If you want a more automatic install and you are new to linux then use either Debian or Debian-based "Raspian"
Personally i like Arch Linux OS because it is the lightest distro out and most customizable, meaning you choose everything you want to install no bloatware unless you choose to add it. From A to Z you know whats installed. Great documentation out there as far as the fully manual install process.
@akakai, I couldn't disagree more. If you know what you are doing, you can do the same with Debian. I do it myself when I set up servers or desktops.
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@akakai, I couldn't disagree more. If you know what you are doing, you can do the same with Debian. I do it myself when I set up servers or desktops.
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i didnt say you couldnt do it, but im saying Arch Linux if you have ever used it. Starts you out in a terminal with no gui whatsoever. the only way it comes... yeah in Debian you can do the same thing, but there is a GUI option.
Dont disagree on a non issue. Generally Debian is known for being preconfigured where as Arch linux is not preconfigured for you at all, unless you get a derivative of it.
Dont want to start anything, but add to the post by stating facts or how you can help the guy asking for advice not putting down what i have said that is actually accurate info.
For what 4Gb SD cards cost these days, get two or three and load them up with various distros and try them all out to your heart's content.
If you make a hash of something, reload the image and start again.
Eventually, when you have got it to do what you want, put it on to a bigger, more expensive card, if you need that amount of storage.
All images are for 2Gb SD cards. The Debian release has an option on initial boot up to expand the root partition to the available size of the disk. With Arch you will have to roll your sleeves up, and do it yourself first with Gparted Live or something similar.
Good luck!
Update: The Rasbian build now requires a 4Gb card minimum.
Advice for medium length project.
I am thinking about creating a cluster for scientific high performance computing, but I know close to zero on this hardware. where to begin? Start with creating a PC and expand from there? Any advice would be helpful for a multiyear project.
I want to set up a Pi as a Tor Proxy Server. I know Adafruit are selling complete kits (and include a tutorial) - but interested to know if anyone has tried setting one up.
Since Tor is open source, maybe you can build it by yourself.
Adafruit only recommends you use one of their wifi adapters, doesn't mean you can't try it out with another.
http://learn.adafruit.com/onion-pi?view=all
Now I won't say you can't but, you'll need to find a good Linux distro that is light weight, then from there you would need to figure out how to set up a normal TOR node on it, then from there find a RaspPi based Distro off the one you tested it on, from there you want to set it up on there, be warned unless you HDMI or VNC into the RasPI you will need to do it from terminal.
i think its a pre built distro at the moment, you should be able to get a capable adapter and let it run.
Yea it's pretty easy to do if your familiar with linux. But the adafruit instructions look like a good guide for anyone to follow, you don't need anything from them but you obviously need what they state which are pretty much the essentials anyone would have laying around.
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The guy that's doing arkOS is touting it's (future?) ability to act Tor node. Might want to look into that?
Hello,
let me start by saying i am incredibly unfamiliar with coding and my knowledge of computers is fairly limited. i bought the pi quite some time ago and have been searching for the right OS to suit my needs. as of right now im running OpenElec and it works great. the problem is that i want to be able to run xbmc, remotely torrent from outside my home network, and preferably be able to run a vpn client on there. i tried running raspbian and using google's remote desktop, but chromium doesnt support chrome addons apparently. i saw an article saying windows 10 was going to get a special version for the pi, but just learned it was significantly less than i was hoping for. can anyone point me towards an OS that can fit my needs? i understand it wont be simple to set up, and ill probably have to do a lot of research to get it running smoothly, but i cant even really find a starting point on my own. any help would be greatly appreciated. thank you
Imscuba said:
Hello,
let me start by saying i am incredibly unfamiliar with coding and my knowledge of computers is fairly limited. i bought the pi quite some time ago and have been searching for the right OS to suit my needs. as of right now im running OpenElec and it works great. the problem is that i want to be able to run xbmc, remotely torrent from outside my home network, and preferably be able to run a vpn client on there. i tried running raspbian and using google's remote desktop, but chromium doesnt support chrome addons apparently. i saw an article saying windows 10 was going to get a special version for the pi, but just learned it was significantly less than i was hoping for. can anyone point me towards an OS that can fit my needs? i understand it wont be simple to set up, and ill probably have to do a lot of research to get it running smoothly, but i cant even really find a starting point on my own. any help would be greatly appreciated. thank you
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Try https://osmc.tv/
https://discourse.osmc.tv/
thank you, i will have to check that out