Is TouchWiz faster than AOSP/AOKP/CM/PA? - Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello my note is actually on official xxlt4 and has speed mod k5-5. It survived a hard brick. But still got 11,9 GB internal memory. When I install a AOSP Rom etc. and use it, it feels a bit more laggier than on 4.1.2 is this normal? For example I can play MC 4 with minimal lag while on 4.2.2 it lags horrible on every Rom even slim Rom. Thanks in advance
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TheNoticer said:
Hello my note is actually on official xxlt4 and has speed mod k5-5. It survived a hard brick. But still got 11,9 GB internal memory. When I install a AOSP Rom etc. and use it, it feels a bit more laggier than on 4.1.2 is this normal? For example I can play MC 4 with minimal lag while on 4.2.2 it lags horrible on every Rom even slim Rom. Thanks in advance
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did you try CM10.1 nightly. (and not flash other kernel or mods)
I was using cm10.1, since they updated the drivers for graphic, its runs pretty well.
*Try to install nova launcher, with all eye candy disable.
its more just the launcher I felt, since I was playing real racing 2 (legit, up-to-date version), without lag in game.

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O2X + ICS + lag ?

So... I've now given my HTC EVO 3D to my wife as a gift (not wrapped lol.. I just said she could have it so she has a nice phone)... and I've gone back to her old phone which is a Sony Vivaz. Now the only reason I got shot of the O2X in the first place was due to it lagging after even half a day, and the EVO 3D had 1GB of RAM and it doesn't lag at all. so.... basically.. now there is a stock LG ICS version (I assume there is looking at other threads?) has this resolved the lag? When I say lag, I mean it not even being able to play video's smoothly, and games nose diving in performance etc.
If this is the case... I'll probably be on the look-out for another O2X as I enjoyed having a nice bright screen and an HDMI port
Scougar said:
So... I've now given my HTC EVO 3D to my wife as a gift (not wrapped lol.. I just said she could have it so she has a nice phone)... and I've gone back to her old phone which is a Sony Vivaz. Now the only reason I got shot of the O2X in the first place was due to it lagging after even half a day, and the EVO 3D had 1GB of RAM and it doesn't lag at all. so.... basically.. now there is a stock LG ICS version (I assume there is looking at other threads?) has this resolved the lag? When I say lag, I mean it not even being able to play video's smoothly, and games nose diving in performance etc.
If this is the case... I'll probably be on the look-out for another O2X as I enjoyed having a nice bright screen and an HDMI port
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stock rom lags, but custom im sure is smooth and with no lags.
xadidas said:
stock rom lags, but custom im sure is smooth and with no lags.
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Prior to ICS the custom rom's/kernel's lagged badly as well.. like they were out of memory.... are you 100% they don't lag? i.e. you don't have to reset your phone daily just to watch a movie or play a 3D game?
well take into account that the device only has 348mb ram? So It's a bit memory hungry but ICS performance overall is quite nice
xadidas said:
stock rom lags, but custom im sure is smooth and with no lags.
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This is not true. Do you have direct experience? What rom do you use?
I'm using 30B stock LG in Italy and I must say that I finally can touch high smoothness and fast performance.
Never found this with custom roms.
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wals46 said:
This is not true. Do you have direct experience? What rom do you use?
I'm using 30B stock LG in Italy and I must say that I finally can touch high smoothness and fast performance.
Never found this with custom roms.
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The stock fettled rom always worked best for me. I tried stock kernel and stefans kernel and some others but it didn't make any difference to the lag that happened after a random amount of time (within a day). The phone itself would be fine, just video and game performance sucked after a while. To be clear.. on a fresh restart/boot of the phone the performance was EXCELLENT... just it degraded after a relatively short time, and was the deciding factor for selling it. If this has been resolved with ICS I would REALLLLLY like to know.
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well take into account that the device only has 348mb ram? So It's a bit memory hungry but ICS performance overall is quite nice
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I did take that into account. I found the best experience was with the fettled stock italian rom last year before ICS was released, but the phone always suffered with slow down, even within an hour of turning it on if I did something intensive like play a game or watch a video. It took half a day to a day to slow down if not doing anything intensive. It was REALLLLLY aggravating.
I do realise it has limited memory, but given it wasn't running ICS it really should have performed better for longer as such. If Tegra 2 needed more memory to continue running that that's what it should have had. It's an amazing phone (for the money) otherwise I thought.
If people who use there phone for video playback and say... playing a tegra 2 game like dungeon defenders could come in and comment on if performance degrades to getting REALLY bad frame rates after a while, I would really appreciate it. If you can go for a month or something playing games and watching video's without an issue, I REALLY like to hear about it.
@Scougar,
I'm very sorry for you.
I bought 2x on oct 2011, not for playing games as first goal, I have been happy with 20S (removing some unused system apps) for many months and now I am with 30B.
Good luck.
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dont know how anyone can say that cm10 is smooth for example (havent tried stock ics yet tho), because its just so awfully slow for me, lags more than cm7, im sure its because of higher ram consumption. even with swap partition enabled. i mean it IS very smooth, when it works that is, but it quite often has these awful slowdowns for me when the phone just puts me on ignore mode lol
i mean its pathetic, cant even have 2 tabs open in chrome without having to reload the pages after switching tabs. movies and games work great tho, never had any issues, on any android version. best thing about this phone really.
Look i understand what you are saying but the weird thing is with the build from jan 2013+ the performance is just amazing..
And I never experienced a bsod nor a freeze nor a slowdown and not even a single fc i really don't knoa but some people have strange p990's or i just got myself a special one eheh.
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Really.cm10 is the smoothest exp. i ever had on our phone
Smoother then modded ics couse of fps and fluidity...ics and cm10 rock's on our phone,really no lag for days...
wals46 said:
@Scougar,
I'm very sorry for you.
I bought 2x on oct 2011, not for playing games as first goal, I have been happy with 20S (removing some unused system apps) for many months and now I am with 30B.
Good luck.
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lol, sorry for me? You shouldn't be, because I 'upgraded' to the EVO 3D, on an amazing sim-free deal for it, and it worked perfectly for me, without issue and had ICS for months before LG. I'm just considering coming back to the O2X as I really loved it apart from the lag. I would prefer to use a stock modded rom so that I get full functionality rather than fast performance and missing options.
I will keep my eyes open for one.. but they are pretty expensive for such an old phone (which is weird).
I am running CM10 on the new boot loader with custom kernel and its darn near perfect for me. Smooth as butter and battery life is as good as pure CM7 ROM.
Running on CM10 with ICS bootloader....It is very smooth & lag free for me
Link---http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2058231
Agreed,Stock ICS lags very bad,installed CM10 and the phone is damn smooth!
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lol, sorry for me? You shouldn't be, because I 'upgraded' to the EVO 3D, on an amazing sim-free deal for it, and it worked perfectly for me, without issue and had ICS for months before LG. I'm just considering coming back to the O2X as I really loved it apart from the lag. I would prefer to use a stock modded rom so that I get full functionality rather than fast performance and missing options.
I will keep my eyes open for one.. but they are pretty expensive for such an old phone (which is weird).
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Try stock ICS 30B and you'll be satisfied.
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jineeshmm said:
Running on CM10 with ICS bootloader....It is very smooth & lag free for me
Link---http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2058231
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No lags with stock LG ICS 30B, very smooth full functons and stable.
Maybe in some months we'll have a stable CM10.1; CM7 took at least six months to be a stable version (missing of some functions).
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Will a custom kernel like Franco solve lag issues on stock 4.2.1?

Well I'm not really experiencing a lot of lag, but it's not really smooth, even my old LG Optimus 2X running CM10 is smoother than my Nexus when scrolling through menus.
My nexus really lags a lot when scrolling through documents, and on the app drawer, especially in the widgets tab. Some games like NFS and beach buggy blitz doesn't run smoothy too.
So will a custom kernel fix everything? I don't really want to install custom ROMs.. I like how stock feel and I'm kinda sick of customizing like my LG.
Did you try disabling Background sync in Google Currents?
That should help a bit.
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alxrock said:
Did you try disabling Background sync in Google Currents?
That should help a bit.
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I cleared cache, and disabled the app altogether. Still doesn't help.
Coming from stock 4.2.1 switching to dirty aokp with Franko kernel I can say I don't really notice a difference in lag. 4.2.1 never lagged for me before and I can't understand what people are talking about. Maybe it's because I never experienced the previous versions before...
You can install Beach Buggy Blitz from Market. It is free game with great graphics. Then you can see lags, with gaming. And there is no solution for this.
gregy74 said:
You can install Beach Buggy Blitz from Market. It is free game with great graphics. Then you can see lags, with gaming. And there is no solution for this.
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Lag with a specific game is not general system lag...
All of these "lag" threads all go the same place; every random direction. No coherent information is ever formed..
I too would like to figure out how to get rid of the random lags after waking the device, during IO, just random other times while using the device etc.. I'll try a kernel, maybe a custom ROM at some point, maybe I've waited too long, but I've been using the stock rooted ROM. First device I kept the stock ROM on since I got my Nexus One, at least for a while
4.2.1 here with 0 lag. Currents background data WAS enabled, but I just shut it off. Thanks for the tip.
What kind of lag? While doing what? Without a proper description don't expect too much help.
Like everyone has said it is hard to tell without more information but generally custom kernels do provide better performance overall and therefor would probably be best for covering all the bases.
Like all machines aren't created equal, I don't seem to be experiencing any kind of lag on my device, as it is buttery smooth even in stock rom. I guess your device maybe running hot?
So I installed Franco on it, and lo and behold, the device got a lot more smoother, still running stock ROM.
But the battery is taking a plunge!! No idea why. Perhaps a re charge will solve problems.
It helps quite a bit but still nowhere near the smoothness of 4.1.2. Recent Apps button still takes a while to load for example.
My stock 4.2.1 is quite smooth, even better than a lot of custom roms. A different kernel improves it a bit, but not by much.
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i lag too. I think it is because of lack of ram. I always have to manually close out all apps to make things smooth again.(hulu and netflix use alot of ram)

[Q/A][DISCUSSION] CyanogenMod 10.x/11

This thread is created to reduce off-topic posts in development section.
Use this thread to discuss my work for Mini 2. (recoveries, ROMs etc.)
Please don't make any requests and most importantly, use the search button to make sure the answer to your question/problem is already present somewhere in here.
Hi , that´s my opinion
Twice 10.1 or JB port , have a problem with battery duration (and other minor bugs)
the game play are so laggy ,and you really have a slow experience with diary use.
AOkp I think that is trustworthy to the JB use. but the same with lag .
Thanks for your work !!!! and I hope you get new roms updates.
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jelly bean requires a lot of more RAM than GB. That's why there is some lag, I suggest to use smartassv2 as CPU governor if you need performance, if you need to save battery use interactiveX.
TheWhisp said:
jelly bean requires a lot of more RAM than GB. That's why there is some lag, I suggest to use smartassv2 as CPU governor if you need performance, if you need to save battery use interactiveX.
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Is it possible to fix the camera now?. Since preview problem seems to be known now?
i tried installing cm-10.1-20130629-UNOFFICIAL-jena today but get an error 7.
factory reset, cache partition and dalvik cache have been wiped, i`m using cwm 6.0.3.2.
versioncm-10.1-20130611-UNOFFICIAL-jena works without any problems.
what could i be doing wrong ?
edit: i returned to the working version and flashed it new because i finally wanted to get rid of the gapps package i installed before.
however even after flashing 0611 again gapps still seem to be on my system.
do i have to wipe anything else i`m not aware of ? the target is a cyanogen 0611 or 0629 without any gapps
do you have cwm 6.0.3.2 build 4 ?
ohh! it`s build 3 actually!
thx a lot! will give it a try at once
no problem
it worked perfectly thanks again!
the only thing i`m still facing is that gapps still seem to be on the system from a previous installation, although i wiped the 3 settings mentioned above.
is 0629 supposed to have the play store, services and other google named services? can i get rid of them somehow?
edit: solved, i had to format /system /data /cache. now gapps and other parts of the previous installations are definitely gone. happy happy!
The performance greatly depends on the game you're playing. Currently with CM10 20130629 (the NFC patch doesn't work, BTW) I have good performance with Icy Tower 2, but micro lags on Jetpack Joyride. Of course both of these games run perfectly on stock, but Icy Tower 2 has some graphical glitches not appearing on JB. But Jetpack Joyride is a lazy port from iOS and it can stutter even on better phones. But the overall performance is just fluid. Will test Vice City later to see if a lot has changed since April 2013, when I lastly tested VC on CM10.
those "micro lags" are because of RAM. I had an old PC with 256MB (!) RAM like 5-6 years ago, when I played NFSMW, I would get freezes/lags each 3-5 seconds, the loading screen took ages to load, then I put in another 512MB and everything was fine. No lags/freezes, loading screens didn't load forever etc.
On cm10 and cm9 for less ram usage i went to Developer options, scrolled to the bottom and set background processes to 1 or 0.
There are no these options on cm10.1, right? I dont know did you mean slow ramread/write or high usage with old pc example...
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Ahh...the old-school NFSMW - one of my favorite games of all time.
But Android manages RAM differently than Windows, so 512MB shouldn't be a problem because it runs file on stock 2.3.6.
Looks like Jetpack Joyride stutters when there are certain sprites drawn. Seems to be some kind of GPU thing. If GTA VC runs better than this, I'll uninstall this crap.
That was just an example that RAM matter a lot in games. Temple Run 2 uses >100MB. Imaging what more demanding games require. I have about ~50-60MB free RAM when the phone is idle.
I have 210 at idle and still same lag and low fps as it is when 120 is free
Edit: cm9 has more than 100mb/s faster ram read speed than cm10, .1, aokp. And it has performance as good on 800mhz as cm10 has at 1.05ghz. Stock rom read is 500 mb/s, cm9 450, cm10 350
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Well, looks like that's the problem. I noticed that actually earlier when people were posting benchmark results, everything was higher than on stock, except for the RAM speed.
I guess there's nothing to do about it? It's all in the kernel.
Probably gpu performance depends on ram speed... So improving ram speed will improve gaming performance and overal performance of the device in cm9, cm10, cm10.1 and aokp.
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thanks for your job TheWhisp CM 10.1 is awesome like you thank you very much
I don't know which games you play but I play various gba roms and hacks via my boy emulator and it is very smooth. those temple run etc. do not appeal to me. If they were then probably I would have bought a better phone. but know this. Mini 2 is not a phone to play games.
oh and a question to @TheWhisp cm10.1 or aokp. whats the difference. which one do you prefer?
You fixed camera using same liboemcamera?
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Lagness in general

Hi all guys, I want to ask everyone to help me understanding why I my device is a bit laggy. Ok, I don't have a nexus, but I have an amazing quad core processor, a tegra 3 chipset!!
And even if flash custom ROMs I have this lag feeling, and not only feeling sometimes. I will be more accurate.
1) When I install apps or uninstall apps, I have some lags, now OK the phone is doing a big task but it is a bit too laggy.
2) Switching between apps can be laggy some times, and not just with big apps.
3) I have noticed that even having not much apps working background, the phone give me this impression of lagness, I have 1gb ram and a quad core, I get angry if it start to run slowly only for some apps working background, I mean the hardware is powerfully enough.
After all I must say that I have tryed these ROMs.
Carbon, slimbean, liquid smooth, and CyanogenMod (that is a bit better on performance).
My favourite is slimbean because I feel it stable.
And I have tryed most of the kernels, like werewolf, optimous prime, and iodak at last, and I like this last one.
Can someone help me understand this? Thank you guys!
Ah, sorry for my not clear English :S
LoKKeR said:
Hi all guys, I want to ask everyone to help me understanding why I my device is a bit laggy. Ok, I don't have a nexus, but I have an amazing quad core processor, a tegra 3 chipset!!
And even if flash custom ROMs I have this lag feeling, and not only feeling sometimes. I will be more accurate.
1) When I install apps or uninstall apps, I have some lags, now OK the phone is doing a big task but it is a bit too laggy.
2) Switching between apps can be laggy some times, and not just with big apps.
3) I have noticed that even having not much apps working background, the phone give me this impression of lagness, I have 1gb ram and a quad core, I get angry if it start to run slowly only for some apps working background, I mean the hardware is powerfully enough.
After all I must say that I have tryed these ROMs.
Carbon, slimbean, liquid smooth, and CyanogenMod (that is a bit better on performance).
My favourite is slimbean because I feel it stable.
And I have tryed most of the kernels, like werewolf, optimous prime, and iodak at last, and I like this last one.
Can someone help me understand this? Thank you guys!
Ah, sorry for my not clear English :S
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I always felt that too, until I flashed kit kat and mokee kernel. You can try it out
If you're on stock, number 1. might be caused by MLT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2187920
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Nono i don't like anymore stock beucase is not best for performance. Anyway thank @Coolneng I will try it. There are compatibility issues for apps like GTA or something else? I have heard something.
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Nono i don't like anymore stock beucase is not best for performance. Anyway thank @Coolneng I will try it. There are compatibility issues for apps like GTA or something else? I have heard something.
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I have no idea, I don't play any games on phone ^^
I have tried kitkat and it is nice, but it's not much stable so I have chosen to return to stock (zaiben rom) with iodak kernel and I'm impressed, it is fast and smooth with this kernel.
Anyway I think that all Roms that we have are unstable in their way, so I prefer stock where all works.
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I have tried kitkat and it is nice, but it's not much stable so I have chosen to return to stock (zaiben rom) with iodak kernel and I'm impressed, it is fast and smooth with this kernel.
Anyway I think that all Roms that we have are unstable in their way, so I prefer stock where all works.
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If you're on a stock based ROM, I suggest you still check for that MLT apk
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This rom doesn't have mlt.apk but have logservice.apk and if I delete it the Rom stop working
Kernel : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50072951&postcount=2066 (Iodak v9.95)
Rom : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481929
Try to do a full wipe of /system before install .
Trickster mod settings :
CPUQuiet : balanced
Multicore power saving : 1
CPU : Max 1.3 Ghz , Interactive
Try lagfix https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmonkey.lagfix&hl=en
I feel my phone more smoothly after i dezactivate all animations .

[Q] Poor multitasking performance

Hello guys!
I just want to ask if i'm the only one who has LG 4X HD and has poor multitasking performance. I had HTC One S (S4 version) for a couple of months and i thought i could make an upgrade with this Lg phone. But i don't know if it's from the software, the hardware or it's just the phone itself. When i'm on Opera Mobile with only 3 tabs opened and want to switch from one tab to another, the animation it's very laggy. When i'm playing a game, let's say CSR Racing for 30 minutes, if i just press Home button to go to Apex Launcher i have lag for a couple of seconds...it's just staying freezed for 4-5 seconds and then i can see the launcher. And it's not like the launcher isn't on RAM memory cause i know how it is.
I was on Stock Jb when i bought the phone. I rooted and all this stuff and now i'm on "Enox rom [stock v20d]". All the lags that i'm having are on Enox. I'm sad because now i'm feeling that HTC One S (which was dual core) was way more better than LG 4x. I had no lags on HTC.
So, guys, pls tell me: it's the phone? Or should i try another ROMs?
Thanks a lot for your answers!
andeld said:
Hello guys!
I just want to ask if i'm the only one who has LG 4X HD and has poor multitasking performance. I had HTC One S (S4 version) for a couple of months and i thought i could make an upgrade with this Lg phone. But i don't know if it's from the software, the hardware or it's just the phone itself. When i'm on Opera Mobile with only 3 tabs opened and want to switch from one tab to another, the animation it's very laggy. When i'm playing a game, let's say CSR Racing for 30 minutes, if i just press Home button to go to Apex Launcher i have lag for a couple of seconds...it's just staying freezed for 4-5 seconds and then i can see the launcher. And it's not like the launcher isn't on RAM memory cause i know how it is.
I was on Stock Jb when i bought the phone. I rooted and all this stuff and now i'm on "Enox rom [stock v20d]". All the lags that i'm having are on Enox. I'm sad because now i'm feeling that HTC One S (which was dual core) was way more better than LG 4x. I had no lags on HTC.
So, guys, pls tell me: it's the phone? Or should i try another ROMs?
Thanks a lot for your answers!
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enox is awesome rom with many features, but it's very "heavy", since it has many system apps ported from g/g pro/g2 etc, which are running in background and thus slowing the phone down. i recommend either stock with iodak kernel or custom aosp-based roms, if you wish to have better performance
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enox is awesome rom with many features, but it's very "heavy", since it has many system apps ported from g/g pro/g2 etc, which are running in background and thus slowing the phone down. i recommend either stock with iodak kernel or custom aosp-based roms, if you wish to have better performance
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Thanks for the answer. I will try Beanstalk 4.4.4010 KITKAT. It is ok? Or should i try clean CM 11 nightly? Thanks again for you help.
Its up to you to decide which one you want. You can't miss with either

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