[Q] About "stock" screen protector and ASF - Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Really sorry for opening another thread for this subject. I have read really A LOT about all these and still very confused. Moderators, feel free to move the thread, sorry if you have to.
1.Most people speak about some screen protector coming in the box. I haven't found any in my box, is it normal? Would it be pre-applied as the ASF? FYI, docking station was included in my package.
2. SCREEN : I am not sure, but i seems that there are 3 layers (screen + ASF + protector). So, I don't know whether the last layer is the ASF or a pre-installed screen protector. I have a little tiny scratch on this top layer and considering removing it before applying a serious protector (such as spigen glass).
2.1 Is the warranty voided if I remove the ASF?
2.2 If don't remove it, do you think the tiny little scratch will be visible through the SPG glass?
3.BACK : It seems that there is some kind of protector on the back as well. With a scratch too, off course. What it the nature of this back protector? same as ASF?

SuperTraxer said:
Really sorry for opening another thread for this subject. I have read really A LOT about all these and still very confused. Moderators, feel free to move the thread, sorry if you have to.
1.Most people speak about some screen protector coming in the box. I haven't found any in my box, is it normal? Would it be pre-applied as the ASF? FYI, docking station was included in my package.
2. SCREEN : I am not sure, but i seems that there are 3 layers (screen + ASF + protector). So, I don't know whether the last layer is the ASF or a pre-installed screen protector. I have a little tiny scratch on this top layer and considering removing it before applying a serious protector (such as spigen glass).
2.1 Is the warranty voided if I remove the ASF?
2.2 If don't remove it, do you think the tiny little scratch will be visible through the SPG glass?
3.BACK : It seems that there is some kind of protector on the back as well. With a scratch too, off course. What it the nature of this back protector? same as ASF?
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1. I purchased mine new unlocked in australia, it came with no screen protector, and only had the factory ASF with the sony logo applied.
2. The top layer on mine atleast is the ASF that is fitted at the factory, if you remove it, the sony logo will come off. Alot of people say the screen is brighter and viewing angles improve when you remove it...In my experience, this wasnt the case. The naked glass seems just as prone to grime, oil and dust as the ASF was, that said my ASF was scratched really easily, So I just removed it and ran with the naked glass, no phone I have ever had has had a screen protector fitted to it, none of my glass has ever been scratched, so im not terrified of using naked glass like alot of other people seem to be.
2.1 I have read many different people say that sony has advised them that the warrenty is not affected if you remove them, this is what sony also advised me over the phone. I would check for myself though get the name and what not of the person that tells you, so if it ever becomes an issue, you have somebody there thats accountable and they will have to keep to their word.
2.2 No idea
3. The back can be removed just like the front. I removed mine for the same reason, covered in tiny little scratches from hard plastics ect.
Hope this has helped.

SuperTraxer said:
Really sorry for opening another thread for this subject. I have read really A LOT about all these and still very confused.
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If you were sorry you would have just posted your questions on one of the existing threads you claim to have read.
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Screen Protectors

I've installed the in the box screen protector, it will do its job but its cut the same size as the shatter protector so was a nightmare to align without it going off one side but not the other. The application was the hardest of any I've ever applied as the shatter protector attracts dust like a magnet! The edges are already picking up dust so I'm on the lookout for a replacement.
I've got some Terrapin ones from Amazon...anyone tried these yet?
I've a feeling a wet apply protector would be best for this screen, as I'd expect them to be big enough to overlap the edges of the shatter protector.
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LadFromWales85 said:
I've installed the in the box screen protector, it will do its job but its cut the same size as the shatter protector so was a nightmare to align without it going off one side but not the other. The application was the hardest of any I've ever applied as the shatter protector attracts dust like a magnet! The edges are already picking up dust so I'm on the lookout for a replacement.
I've got some Terrapin ones from Amazon...anyone tried these yet?
I've a feeling a wet apply protector would be best for this screen, as I'd expect them to be big enough to overlap the edges of the shatter protector.
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I got a pack of these..
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/180983297773?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
they are a like a foil and very hard to apply indeed. Ended up with a lot of bubbles but was able to get rid of most of them, only with few where the dust particles settled.
It is very clear and leaves the screen smooth to use. Also they only have the cut for the front cam and does cover the sensor areas whereas the terrapin ones seem not to cover the sensors as well. Ordered a terrapin pack too off Ebay as a comparison.
The Terrapin ones I ordered from Amazon just arrived today (I bought the 10-in-1 pack) and they seem very good so far - the screen no longer attracts dust like a moth to a flame. It was a bit difficult to apply at first (it took me 3 attempts) but I finally got it nice and smooth with only a few bubbles around the edges where I think it lost it's stickiness due to me trying to peel it off again to reapply.
At the price of 10 for £3.49 I'm quite happy with these,
I have too installed the in box screen protector (above the anti shattering film) on my T
Now i am looking for a fingerprint-proof film
Sony japan sell various films (glossy, matte, fingerprint, privacy) but unfortunately it's for their "GX" (same as TX) model
Any one heard about this brand ?
http://www.bodyguardz.com/screengua...-skins-films.html?dir=asc&order=sort_priority
I am more interrested by the figerprint-proof part and wouldnt like the screen to become fuzzy because of the Antiglare
Doesn't the phone come with a factory screen protector? Mine looks like it has one. I received a screen protector with my Incipio case, but didn't put it on since it looked like mine had one already. Didn't know if that would affect the screen sensitivity.
I think the phone come with a preinstalled anti-shattering film. (but it's a little confusing since there is no mention to that in the manual or box)
It can act as a screen protector too, but you can put another one above if you want to keep it in mint condition.
I have absolutely no sensitivity problem with the factory film + protection film
crmb said:
I have too installed the in box screen protector (above the anti shattering film) on my T
Now i am looking for a fingerprint-proof film
Sony japan sell various films (glossy, matte, fingerprint, privacy) but unfortunately it's for their "GX" (same as TX) model
Any one heard about this brand ?
http://www.bodyguardz.com/screengua...-skins-films.html?dir=asc&order=sort_priority
I am more interrested by the figerprint-proof part and wouldnt like the screen to become fuzzy because of the Antiglare
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drew1129 said:
Doesn't the phone come with a factory screen protector? Mine looks like it has one. I received a screen protector with my Incipio case, but didn't put it on since it looked like mine had one already. Didn't know if that would affect the screen sensitivity.
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crmb said:
I think the phone come with a preinstalled anti-shattering film. (but it's a little confusing since there is no mention to that in the manual or box)
It can act as a screen protector too, but you can put another one above if you want to keep it in mint condition.
I have absolutely no sensitivity problem
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Yes, all xperia phones (Correct me if i am wrong) come with a factory fitted protector. And the first thing you should do is take it off and dont bother with them
IMO the protctors get sctatched very easilly and atract dust, whist the bare screen is very durable and looks cleaner.
I dont use a case and keep my phone in my pocket with car keys, house keys and loose change. The screen never gets scratched. And I have done that on my x10, my neo and now my T.
Disclaimer, if you take the protector off and then drop a working diamond tipped drill onto it and it scratches the screen, thats not my fault
So you think the factory installed "supposedly shatter-proof film" is meant to be removed before use (if you didnt like it) ?
like on my xperia s e my tablet s , i took it off on my XT and is so smooth ... the glass feel is 100times better then the plastic and the screen is sharper .. the screen protector preinstalled is so thick...
gregbradley said:
I dont use a case and keep my phone in my pocket with car keys, house keys and loose change. The screen never gets scratched. And I have done that on my x10, my neo and now my T.
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I'm glad you mentioned this. Has your Xperia T attracted particles underneath the camera or the gap between the display and corners while in your pocket? It may be too early to tell, but it seems all phones are prone with the issue.
gregbradley said:
Yes, all xperia phones (Correct me if i am wrong) come with a factory fitted protector. And the first thing you should do is take it off and dont bother with them
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so the issue I have is the feel of the screen with the think layer on it (not the free protector in the box or the other you can buy and apply).
So I too would be tempted to peel, but who else has done this.
Glass would indeed feel better.

Did you apply a protection film?

did you apply a protection film?
I didn`t and I can see some small scratches on my device...
also, can you suggest me a good protection film for xperia z?
There Is a pre installed shatter proof film.
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wawyed said:
There Is a pre installed shatter proof film.
Sent from my LG-P990 using xda premium
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but it gets very easily scratched :S
I already had a few small scratches
I suggest you try one of the various cheap hard plastic screen protectors that are available. This cost only a few dollars so you can change them once every one or two months. That's what I do with my Note II
I think the point wawyed was making was your device is not scratched, the pre-installed film is.
There are quite a few threads on this exact topic already.... you can remove the pre-installed film if you wish - but you may loose your Sony logo. There are a few good replacement films out there (Spigen)
Bottom line: remove the stock film and replace, or leave the stock film - and put yet another one on top of it.
adamsweeting said:
I think the point wawyed was making was your device is not scratched, the pre-installed film is.
There are quite a few threads on this exact topic already.... you can remove the pre-installed film if you wish - but you may loose your Sony logo. There are a few good replacement films out there (Spigen)
Bottom line: remove the stock film and replace, or leave the stock film - and put yet another one on top of it.
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I read some informations on the net, but I` think the pre-installed one is a different kind of film
I was thinking about using a normal film over the pre-installed one
masanosuke said:
did you apply a protection film?
I didn`t and I can see some small scratches on my device...
also, can you suggest me a good protection film for xperia z?
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I had applied 3M Vikuiti ADQC27 to Xperia Arc S, S, T, TX and I ordered one more set for tomorrow when I get XZ. I was very pleased with this screen protector, but tomorrow I'll decide on which one to apply them: 3M or the 2 that come in the package (I ordered extra package with dockingstation, smartTags and screen protector). And yes, I put it over the preinstalled one :good:.
Where did you ordered the extra package?
get a set of these and be done with it!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2222928
masanosuke said:
but it gets very easily scratched :S
I already had a few small scratches
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The back of my phone has a couple of hairline scratches - I presume it's because of the bolts near my jeans' pocket. But the screen is fine so far. :victory:
Do you think that will be available a screen protector like the anti-shatter film that Sony put on the phone? It's scratching very easy and I'm thinking that if something similar will be available then I will remove the one from Sony and put that one. On other Xperia phones is available this kind of screen protector?
vibecatalin said:
Do you think that will be available a screen protector like the anti-shatter film that Sony put on the phone? It's scratching very easy and I'm thinking that if something similar will be available then I will remove the one from Sony and put that one. On other Xperia phones is available this kind of screen protector?
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I think the chance of that happening is 1%, but I am surprised that companies haven't brought screen protectors with the sony logo/text.
Also a thing Sony could do is to bring out a services to re-apply the anti shatter sheet for us, specially since it scratches so easy.
Anyways, the reason why I don't see it happening is because the anti shatter sheet is being applied by a device, it needs to fit perfectly or it might lose it's function. Screen protectors can be applied by men, because it's only there to protect the device from scratches and such, not to stop the screen from shattering, even though normal screen protectors also do that, but on a smaller scale.
1. There is no screen protector with Sony logo because of patent / copy rights. It would be very expensive to get the right to use the logo.
2. Sony already offers the service to replace the anti shatter film. Costs about 20 bucks
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20 bucks is not much but I think is not ok to charge me that money for a piece of anti shatter film that scratches very very easily, I've put an cheap film and I will look for a better one in the future to preserve this anti shatter , but extremely scratching film from Sony. That's a huge minus for them. A gorilla glass would be a perfect solution, too bad that Sony didn't think of that. But I still love the phone
I'd prefer to completely remove the anti shatter film, but something is still holding me back. Maybe it's because I payed some hard earned money for that thing, whatever don't wanna argue about that here.
I did not put any other protection film on my XZ. I think it's odd to have two on you display and to be honest there is nothing compared to real glass. the feeling is way better... still don't wanna argue 'bout that.
so I have no protection on my display and I do not use a case... "this guy is an idiot" ...I will buy one soon; I promise. For now I use a little bag where I used to keep my sunglasses. Btw Krussel has some nice covers. "get to the point dude!" ...I keep my XZ in a sidepocket of my jacket and there is nothing else in that pocket and stil I got a few scratches on my display. It does not bother me at all. You have to look very closely to see them. What I am trying to say is that the anti shatter film scratches very easy and as far as I remeber there is gorilla glas underneath... so close, yet so far. I can live with that... for now. Someday I will take it off anyway. I just love my plain black XZ without any logos. LOL, I used to put a little piece of dark tape on my old s2, just to cover up the logo.

[Q]XZ plastic covers for back and front in the box

So i received Z today and was quite happy to see all the accessories (pogo charger etc) and I also came across two plastic "covers" from the box but my guess is that those two thin plastic sheets are for shatter proofing the phone rather than avoiding normal scratches. I was thinking if they're necessary because the air bubbles at the back around a button, are impossible to remove and it kind of looks ugly too.
Any thoughts about what these plastic sheets are?
shad0wboss said:
So i received Z today and was quite happy to see all the accessories (pogo charger etc) and I also came across two plastic "covers" from the box but my guess is that those two thin plastic sheets are for shatter proofing the phone rather than avoiding normal scratches. I was thinking if they're necessary because the air bubbles at the back around a button, are impossible to remove and it kind of looks ugly too.
Any thoughts about what these plastic sheets are?
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they are shatterproof films.
if you want to remove it from your phone you can remove it uing a guitar pic.
there are lot of videos showing how to do it
no no not that. I don't want to remove anything from the phone. There were these plastic covers like things for the front and back which I attached to the phone. I am not sure if they serve any purpose as they have a lot of air bubbles in between and they're (air bubbles) quite hard to remove.
The films supplied in the box are simply screen protectors. The anti shatter films are already applied to the phone.
kingvortex said:
The films supplied in the box are simply screen protectors. The anti shatter films are already applied to the phone.
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Yeah, figured as much but my actual question was whether you need those films on a gorrila glass as they look quite ugly tbh with all the bubbles etc.
shad0wboss said:
Yeah, figured as much but my actual question was whether you need those films on a gorrila glass as they look quite ugly tbh with all the bubbles etc.
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You actually just asked what they were for, so I told you.
If you don't put a screen protector on, the anti shatter film gets scratched quite easily and looks terrible. If I were you, I would get some more screen protectors and apply them more carefully.
kingvortex said:
You actually just asked what they were for, so I told you.
If you don't put a screen protector on, the anti shatter film gets scratched quite easily and looks terrible. If I were you, I would get some more screen protectors and apply them more carefully.
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Thanks!
well I think I didn't pay much care and i have messed up the other films. The film I have applied on the front has too many bubbles and on the back, there's a huge bubble around the nfc which looks ugly.
You should remove that NFC sticker. It's only a cosmetic sticker to indicate where the NFC chip is located inside the phone. I removed mine straight away, before applying my screen protectors.

glass or plastic screen protector? (xz1)

It seems like there are quite a lot reviews saying because of the curved screen, there is adhesive only at the edge so some people say there are issues with dust getting into the center part and reflection issues.
So is plastic films a better option?
If not, is there a brand that is found to work with XZ1?
Thanks
anthk said:
It seems like there are quite a lot reviews saying because of the curved screen, there is adhesive only at the edge so some people say there are issues with dust getting into the center part and reflection issues.
So is plastic films a better option?
If not, is there a brand that is found to work with XZ1?
Thanks
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Plastic is fine to avoid scratches but avoid breakage. Glass is fine to avoid scratches and breakage. My phone(s) slipped out of my hand or fall down for other reasons, till now only the glass protector was broken not the screen.
http://nillkin.org/smartphones-acce...xz1-accessories/nillkin-sony-xperia-xz1-h-pro
Seems there is a full glue but plain screen protector from nillkin. This protector saved 2 times the screen of my wifes xz.
seems that on sony mobile forum an user found it tricky
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-XZ1/Screen-Protector-for-Xperia-XZ1/td-p/1269143
Anyone's got experience with ultimate shield and whether it is problematic as well?
anthk said:
It seems like there are quite a lot reviews saying because of the curved screen, there is adhesive only at the edge so some people say there are issues with dust getting into the center part and reflection issues.
So is plastic films a better option?
If not, is there a brand that is found to work with XZ1?
Thanks
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Buy a glass one that is full coverage, and use LOCA glue for it. I personally bought "Screen Protector for Sony Xperia XZ1, Olycism Full Coverage" and "Octopus Glue - Liquid Optically Clear Adhesive (LOCA)" and it looks perfect (except for a tiny bubble which I would have removed, but sadly I didn't notice it until after the glue cured. As for the glue itself, you need around 1.5 milliliters of it. Just make sure you don't put more than 1.5 milliliters or you might end up with glue inside the earpiece.
Do you have any pictures of that?
Chillout said:
Do you have any pictures of that?
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Sorry for the very late (1 month late) reply, I don't come here often. Excuse the terrible quality, as these were taken using my Nexus 4 from 2012:
https://imgur.com/a/nwq3a
Notice how the Sony logo is hard to see and much whiter than the surrounding area, that is because I didn't apply LOCA glue to the logo just in case it leaked into the earpiece. If you do use LOCA glue make sure you don't overdo it because if it gets into the earpiece you're basically screwed.
I've tried over 4 different tempered glass protectors and 3 of them still had the adhesive side issues (not fully placed on the side so it leaves an "unadhesived" portion all around the sides). The one that completely covered everything was the Dooqi Full Curved 3D one previously reviewed here BUT there is a visible rainbow colored spot in the middle that doesn't go away. The 3 I've tried were the Nillkin H+PRO, Khaos Tempered Glass 6-pack and regular Dooqi Premium Tempered Glass. This is just hopeless finding a good tempered glass protector. I don't really want regular screen film or the hassle of having to use glue on the protector
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I've tried over 4 different tempered glass protectors and 3 of them still had the adhesive side issues (not fully placed on the side so it leaves an "unadhesived" portion all around the sides). The one that completely covered everything was the Dooqi Full Curved 3D one previously reviewed here BUT there is a visible rainbow colored spot in the middle that doesn't go away. The 3 I've tried were the Nillkin H+PRO, Khaos Tempered Glass 6-pack and regular Dooqi Premium Tempered Glass. This is just hopeless finding a good tempered glass protector. I don't really want regular screen film or the hassle of having to use glue on the protector
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I tried only one from Moodie full cover curved (German brand). Probably rebranded Dooqi, cause same as yours it's full covered but rainbow spots. And the screen seems dull, oleophobic is non existent. So I'm looking for the best one and on Sonymobile forum, someone recommended Japanese brands Deff and Rasta Banana. Found one review about Deff on Amazon.jp. But only one star. Well, kinda a relieve cause ordering international seems complicated. Rasta Banana review is on a Chinese site. But it seems more like product advertising.
On reddit xperia I stumbled on a Youtube review, presumably the best xz premium screen protector. The guy says he tried many screen protectors too.
There is a xz1 version too. But it uses custom adhesive. Not sure about it, but tutorial looks very easy and from the comments it's easy to remove too. It's from InvisShield.
I'll give it a shot or there is another full curved from Brando Workshop. But not sure if I won't get the rainbow spots again. I hate to get the same one lol.
jinbyx said:
I tried only one from Moodie full cover curved (German brand). Probably rebranded Dooqi, cause same as yours it's full covered but rainbow spots. And the screen seems dull, oleophobic is non existent. So I'm looking for the best one and on Sonymobile forum, someone recommended Japanese brands Deff and Rasta Banana. Found one review about Deff on Amazon.jp. But only one star. Well, kinda a relieve cause ordering international seems complicated. Rasta Banana review is on a Chinese site. But it seems more like product advertising.
On reddit xperia I stumbled on a Youtube review, presumably the best xz premium screen protector. The guy says he tried many screen protectors too.
There is a xz1 version too. But it uses custom adhesive. Not sure about it, but tutorial looks very easy and from the comments it's easy to remove too. It's from InvisShield.
I'll give it a shot or there is another full curved from Brando Workshop. But not sure if I won't get the rainbow spots again. I hate to get the same one lol.
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I don't understand why you two keep doing the same thing over and over, stop buying those types of protectors already. What you need to do is either buy one of these:
http://www.sgfreshidea.com/invisshi...1-full-adhesive-tempered-glass-clear-set.html
Or if you're brave enough like me, buy your own LOCA glue and 'curved' glass screen protector and apply it yourself. My application came out perfectly, as you can see with these blurry pictures:
https://imgur.com/a/nwq3a

Anyone Removing Inner Screen Protector?

If you do can you post a video and the steps you use. I've heard the screen is much better without it but I'm extremely nervous about removing it.
StormCell said:
If you do can you post a video and the steps you use. I've heard the screen is much better without it but I'm extremely nervous about removing it.
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There are several videos on YouTube. It looks really easy to do.
Edit: here's a couple of them:
https://youtu.be/AMjDBKvsWvE
https://youtu.be/FDfTzFznJa4
anuraj1 said:
There are several videos on YouTube. It looks really easy to do.
Edit: here's a couple of them:
https://youtu.be/AMjDBKvsWvE
https://youtu.be/FDfTzFznJa4
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Did you do it?
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Did you do it?
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My Fold2 doesn't arrive until tomorrow. I haven't decided if I'm going to remove it yet since i haven't seen it in person.
I did it... It was very easy.. The screens feel better but it looks the same to me... If you don't like the feel of the screen protectors than just remove it... Do it slow and take your time but it very easy to do.. it also doesn't collect as much fingerprints on it now...
I bit the bullet and removed the screen protector from the inside screen. It was extremely easy, I just used a sheet of paper to gently pull away from the camera cutout enough to grasp it and pull off as easily as any other protector.
I can confirm the screen feels fantastic now, instead of a rubbery sticky feeling to that of glass. It also no longer attracts fingerprints. It seems more responsive and sharper.
I think as long as you take care not to get anything abrasive on the screen it will remain in good condition.
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I scratched the screen protecton with my finger nail do you think that without the protection the screen is also so delicate?
nereya82 said:
I scratched the screen protecton with my finger nail do you think that without the protection the screen is also so delicate?
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YES its just as delicate as the Fold1 inner screen. ( See link to video in Indian forum.)
WHY are folks so keen to remove the factory fitted film so soon after purchase of a $2000 device?
By all means remove it (and replace it) after 6 months if it has picked up a scratch or two but until then LIVE WITH the fingerprints magnet and let the film protect the expensive and delicate main screen underneath it.
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YES its just as delicate as the Fold1 inner screen. ( See link to video in Indian forum.)
WHY are folks so keen to remove the factory fitted film so soon after purchase of a $2000 device?
By all means remove it (and replace it) after 6 months if it has picked up a scratch or two but until then LIVE WITH the fingerprints magnet and let the film protect the expensive and delicate main screen underneath it.
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I understand what you are saying but the original Fold did not have this factory fitted screen protector. I read a lot of people's experiences with that device, stating that the screen is more durable than first anticipated and no real reports of extensive problems relating to scratches over the many months of use. The Fold 2 has a more durable construction than that and I am confident it will live up to the same expectations, provided you take a little more care overall than you would a regular phone. Also someone mentioned that the screen protector hardly protects it anyway, you can still dig a fingernail into it without too much pressure.
The rubbery sticky texture of the screen protector left me feeling disappointed when using the inner screen, and constant smudges (which weren't quick and easy to remove compared to a glass screen) that impaired the clarity and sharpness of the display. So after careful thought I removed it, and now it just feels like a proper glass screen and fingerprints are no longer an issue. The experience is vastly improved and I don't feel that the screen is vulnerable either.
If it turns out that the screen suffers from damage in the next 12 months, then I will get it replaced for £100 and then consider keeping the protector on. But for now I am more than happy with the reasons for removing it.
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For me, I found myself applying greater pressure when cleaning the fingerprints and smudges on the installed screen protector, and cleaning it more frequently. That continual process is surely more detrimental to the device than worrying about the possibility of a scratch. A quick swipe with a microfiber cloth now takes care of things and puts my mind at ease.
With the addition of the little feet on the bezel of the inner screen, there is a much lessened chance of debris getting caught between the folded screen.
I'm with apprentice on this one and agree pretty much down the line. I asked this question on the OG thread as did another fellow and there was not one report of problems with screen scratching and all reported it had proved more durable than expected in reference to the entire device.
I've got the screen replacement in one year if it proves to be worse than expected. If I need to I'll look at getting back into a protector after the replacement should it be needed. In the end of it for me the only thing crazier than spending 2k on this device is spending 2k on this device and not enjoying it. The screen protector was detracting from my experience enough for me to want it gone and having removed I now know more than I realized. I'm not going to cheer-lead on this one but if a person was seriously bothered by the thing as I was then I would certainly recommend giving it a try while you still have your cheap out with the screen replacement.
So this afternoon I opened up my ZF2 and I saw 2 big bubbles underneath the screen protector. I tried to squeegee them out but to no avail. I wasn't planning on removing the screen protector but this point I had no choice. Used my ifixit spudger right at the selfie camera spot and it came up very easy. It does feel and look much better I must admit. I still have the front screen protector still on and I probably won't take it off anytime soon. Then again, on my S10e I still ahve the factory screen protector on and it still looks great.
https://imgur.com/gallery/Fg388lo
I purchased the SaharaCase protector from bestbuy as well as the Orzero 2 pack from Amazon. These are the exact same with a few caveats. They are as follows :
Best Buy Sahara
-29.99
-1 Front protector
-1 Back protector with spine cover
-1 Inside protector
Amazon Orzero
-Price 11.99
-2 front protectors
-2 inside protectors
The spine isn’t enough to justify the more than 2.5x in price. I have a Dbrand skin on the back, so the back cover was useless. For me the Best Buy option is a no go. Let me know if you have more questions or are looking for more pictures.
UPDATE :
I went ahead and applied the inner screen protector. I like the way it feels over the original. It’s smoother and closer to a glass feel. I’m waiting a full day to ensure that the micro bubbles disappear. If they do, then Orzero is a MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR GO. 3 Majors.
UPDATE 2:
It has been less than 24 hours and I want to provide an update...
THIS SCREEN PROTECTOR IS ALMOST PERFECT!!! It is very smooth to the touch. Almost all of the imperfections from my install are gone. There are 3 small bubbles that I’m waiting to disappear, but they have already shrunk. I think anyone looking for an upgrade over the default protector will be well served to grab a few of these. I say a few because it might take a few attempts to get it right, but at 11 dollars its worth it. Good luck everyone and let me know if you have any other questions.
There was a bubble and what looked like a small bit of dirt under the factory screen protector so I removed it. It was really easy to do and the screen feels great. I had the F1 which never had a screen protector and never had any issue with it so I think the F2 will be the same without it.
dezborders said:
YES its just as delicate as the Fold1 inner screen.
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Did you own the OG Fold? I did. The inside screen was far from fragile. Granted I take really good care of my device but the inside screen looked new after 8 months of use. I hate the screen protector Samsung used on the inside screen of the Fold 2. It's hazy, tacky to the touch, and a fingerprint magnet. I'm taking it off it's just a matter of when.
Any updates on this? How's the inner screen holding up for those of you that removed the inner screen protector?
I've had my phone for a week and really don't like the feel and smudginess of the inner screen protector and thus really want to peel it off.
Also, if appreciate if those of you who removed it could make a comment about how you handle your devices - ie. do you baby it or treat it more or less like any other phones?
Keeping mine on for now, I actually don't mind the feel of it and like the idea of the extra protective layer. Just waiting on cases to become available and ill be happy.
Martin5000 said:
Any updates on this? How's the inner screen holding up for those of you that removed the inner screen protector?
I've had my phone for a week and really don't like the feel and smudginess of the inner screen protector and thus really want to peel it off.
Also, if appreciate if those of you who removed it could make a comment about how you handle your devices - ie. do you baby it or treat it more or less like any other phones?
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Zero issues here... No regrets whatsoever. Feels, looks so much better than that rubbery crap it came with. Does make me feel a bit more cautious of course, but not enough to detract from normal usage and showing it off.
acshulk said:
https://imgur.com/gallery/Fg388lo
I purchased the SaharaCase protector from bestbuy as well as the Orzero 2 pack from Amazon. These are the exact same with a few caveats. They are as follows :
Best Buy Sahara
-29.99
-1 Front protector
-1 Back protector with spine cover
-1 Inside protector
Amazon Orzero
-Price 11.99
-2 front protectors
-2 inside protectors
The spine isn’t enough to justify the more than 2.5x in price. I have a Dbrand skin on the back, so the back cover was useless. For me the Best Buy option is a no go. Let me know if you have more questions or are looking for more pictures.
UPDATE :
I went ahead and applied the inner screen protector. I like the way it feels over the original. It’s smoother and closer to a glass feel. I’m waiting a full day to ensure that the micro bubbles disappear. If they do, then Orzero is a MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR GO. 3 Majors.
UPDATE 2:
It has been less than 24 hours and I want to provide an update...
THIS SCREEN PROTECTOR IS ALMOST PERFECT!!! It is very smooth to the touch. Almost all of the imperfections from my install are gone. There are 3 small bubbles that I’m waiting to disappear, but they have already shrunk. I think anyone looking for an upgrade over the default protector will be well served to grab a few of these. I say a few because it might take a few attempts to get it right, but at 11 dollars its worth it. Good luck everyone and let me know if you have any other questions.
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The Orzero got terrible reviews on Amazon. Most say it's horrendous. You really like it?
Did you install over the stock screen protector?
dezborders said:
YES its just as delicate as the Fold1 inner screen. ( See link to video in Indian forum.)
WHY are folks so keen to remove the factory fitted film so soon after purchase of a $2000 device?
By all means remove it (and replace it) after 6 months if it has picked up a scratch or two but until then LIVE WITH the fingerprints magnet and let the film protect the expensive and delicate main screen underneath it.
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