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I dont know if anyone has asked this, but what happens after 30 mins of the Xperia Z being submerged in water? Though the flaps loosen up and give in? Any ideas?
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It will spontaneously burst into flames, even under water.
On a serious note, probably nothing. IP57 is a test made for 30 minutes but chances are it'll survive a lot more. The next level requires endless submersion at a higher depth and that is probably unreasonable to test/expect. I wouldn't try it out though.
You should see the waterproofing as an extra security. Dropped your phone in a puddle, spilled some water over it, need to take a call and it's raining? No problem. It's meant to survive those things. What it is not meant to do is to remain operational while submersed in water (they've said this on their website). It will, but it's not made to be used as an underwater camera or as a shower texting device (even though it can do those things).
Haha
Great to know, thanks.
I would though like to see a review site test it for longer, just to push the Xperia Z to its limits.
Id expect it it text in the shower like the Nokia 5210? Which I used to have years ago.
But I understand the rest. Thanks Ambroos
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(IP)(5)(7)
IP = Ingress Protection
5 = Dust protected
Desc - Ingress of dust is not entirely prevented, but it must not enter in sufficient quantity to interfere with the satisfactory operation of the equipment; complete protection against contact
7 = Immersion up to 1 m
Desc:
Ingress of water in harmful quantity shall not be possible when the enclosure is immersed in water under defined conditions of pressure and time (up to 1 m of submersion).
Test Routine:
Test duration: 30 minutes
Immersion at depth of at least 1 m measured at bottom of device, and at least 15 cm measured at top of device
The reason why it's not 8 because for you to be able to get IP58 is
8 = Immersion beyond 1 m
Desc: The equipment is suitable for continuous immersion in water under conditions which shall be specified by the manufacturer. Normally, this will mean that the equipment is hermetically sealed. However, with certain types of equipment, it can mean that water can enter but only in such a manner that it produces no harmful effects.
Test Routine:
Test duration: continuous immersion in water
Depth specified by manufacturer
and to get the IP67
6 = Dust tight
Desc: No ingress of dust; complete protection against contact
The highest level is IP68 which requires a dust tight and is capable of staying underwater for an unlimited time. Like submarines.
But this isn't dust tight because of the open ports. And also this can't emerge underwater for an unlimited time because the body isn't airtight and moisture can develop inside the case if submerged longer.
So.......... It is only stated to last 30minutes underwater because that's the criteria level of IP rules is not very specific enough.
So sony only have 2 choices for this... Either go with the rule to state the device that it can be submerged 1meter for 30 minutes or state that it can be submerged down below the water for centuries
So to summarize it all the 30minutes 1 meter is not the device limitation but just the certification's description.
DarkKrypt said:
I dont know if anyone has asked this, but what happens after 30 mins of the Xperia Z being submerged in water? Though the flaps loosen up and give in? Any ideas?
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check this video
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x86rd1_submarine-model-pressure-hull-colla_tech#.URzR7Wdp7DU
Just means its ok to watch porn on the shower
while reading this thread, the follwing question comes into my mind: what about using the phone while taking a bath? don't get me wrong: i do not talk about reading websites UNDER water, but what about the steam? can the phone resist the steam? is this also included in ip 57?
hebbe said:
while reading this thread, the follwing question comes into my mind: what about using the phone while taking a bath? don't get me wrong: i do not talk about reading websites UNDER water, but what about the steam? can the phone resist the steam? is this also included in ip 57?
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thanks for your answer.
so just to be sure and safe: while taking a hot, steamy bath, i can surf the internet (above the water, of course), and the steam can't do any harm to the XZ?
that'll be awesome. how often did i wish i could use my tablet or smartphone for reading stuff while lying in the bath-tube...
hebbe said:
thanks for your answer.
so just to be sure and safe: while taking a hot, steamy bath, i can surf the internet (above the water, of course), and the steam can't do any harm to the XZ?
that'll be awesome. how often did i wish i could use my tablet or smartphone for reading stuff while lying in the bath-tube...
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Hot temperature expands air so it should be safe what you need to worry about is cold water Not that water will get inside but the air inside the device could become moisture if it's cold and wet so dunno for sure
from my experience as a diver, I can say that it is not so much about the duration in water but about the depth and the pressure. The deeper you go into water, the higher is the pressure. For every 10 meter, the pressure doubles. From 1 bar to 2 bar and so on. What this means, is, if you go beyond the depth for which the phone is specified and tested, the protective covers might be too weak to hold steady against the pressure of the water around it. Then they'll give in and bulge inside, thus water comes in -> phone's dead!
This may not mean that if you go 1,1m that the phone will die immediately. It could withstand 2 m, maybe even 3 or 5. But I wouldn't bet or try it out. It may survive these depths, but only for a very short time.
To conclude, I would assume that going to swim for 1 hour in up to 1 m should be fine. But going down to 3m for 5 minutes - not so good idea.
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Just means its ok to watch porn on the shower
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That made me literally laugh out loud:good:
Well I've got my Xperia z, after 4 hours of playing with it, i have put it in the water, everthing its OK? Well no... The Loudspeaker now seems to be muffled. :/
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Well I've got my Xperia z, after 4 hours of playing with it, i have put it in the water, everthing its OK? Well no... The Loudspeaker now seems to be muffled. :/
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somewhere i read that after taking it out of the water, the speaker has to "dry" in order to work properly again. so just wait a few hours and tell us if sound is ok again.
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Well I've got my Xperia z, after 4 hours of playing with it, i have put it in the water, everthing its OK? Well no... The Loudspeaker now seems to be muffled. :/
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wait till it dries off, then the speaker would be ok.
hebbe said:
somewhere i read that after taking it out of the water, the speaker has to "dry" in order to work properly again. so just wait a few hours and tell us if sound is ok again.
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That's normal. Wait till the water dries off, then the speaker will go back to normal.
MrL1 said:
Well I've got my Xperia z, after 4 hours of playing with it, i have put it in the water, everthing its OK? Well no... The Loudspeaker now seems to be muffled. :/
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Wait it dries off the speaker or muffled and yes but not fully dry now. Give 30 minute it at least or more so it get out water.
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You are all right . 30m later was OK :highfive:
Thanks m8's
Hi Guys,
I've been wondering for a few days, Sony is basically making the "Waterproof" function of this phone as the main selling point.
I'm just curious as to how the insurance and warranty is going to be affected by the water proof.
As I know most insurances claim its water damage and say its not covered.
Can they still do this with the Xperia, as its water proof?
Are warranties etc going to change incorporating the water-proof(ness).
Thanks.
It's not water-proof, it's water-resistant.
The water seals inside the phone will still void your warranty if voided, its just like a water proof camera, if YOU haven't secured your waterproof flaps/seals properly and then submerge it, then it is user error.
Wait a minute, so why the hell do they claim "Water-PROOF" whens it not.
So basically, you couldn't just wash it off like the advert.
Define RESISTANT compared to PROOF....?
??? It is water resistant, I washed my xperia z a few times now, mostly as a show of, and also spent some time in the bath with it watching....
Nevermind point is when you don't close the flaps and submerge it the sensors underneath the flaps turn red, making warranty void, but if there is water damage without the flap sensors tripping, then you are covered by warranty, some users are worried about the flaps turning red, but for me they are still white eventhough I submerged the phone in water several times now.
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bucho2004 said:
??? It is water resistant, I washed my xperia z a few times now, mostly as a show of, and also spent some time in the bath with it watching.... PPPOOORRRNNN
Nevermind point is when you don't close the flaps and submerge it the sensors underneath the flaps turn red, making warranty void, but if there is water damage without the flap sensors tripping, then you are covered by warranty, some users are worried about the flaps turning red, but for me they are still white eventhough I submerged the phone in water several times now.
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Hmm, what flaps?
Sony is deceiving me here. I though it was water-proof !!
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Hmm, what flaps?
Sony is deceiving me here. I though it was water-proof !!
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Erm... There are flaps on the phone covering every port and I'm sure the Xperia Z is advertised as water resistant. Not waterproof. It can still witstand being submerged underwater for up to 30mins and 100m though.
I guess you mean 1m and not 100m. But that would have been nice for deep sea diving.
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I guess you mean 1m and not 100m. But that would have been nice for deep sea diving.
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Hahahah XD Yeah! My bad! Was doing Math while typing that post
Math screws up your brain.
If i am not wrong, the spec states ip7 and ip5.ip 5 would likely be water resistant while ip 7 is water proofing
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If i am not wrong, the spec states ip7 and ip5.ip 5 would likely be water resistant while ip 7 is water proofing
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So whats the use in the flaps?
Why not just remove the flaps and then theres no chance of you messing up?
PokerFaze said:
Hahahah XD Yeah! My bad! Was doing Math while typing that post
Math screws up your brain.
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Maths obliterates your brain !!
Originally Posted by bkbatboy
If i am not wrong, the spec states ip7 and ip5.ip 5 would likely be water resistant while ip 7 is water proofing
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You are wrong, it is
IP55 = Limited dust ingress protection low pressure water jets from any direction
and
IP57 = Limited dust ingress protection immersion between 15cm and 1m depth
And as long as the flaps are closed you'll be a ok.
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Originally Posted by bkbatboy
If i am not wrong, the spec states ip7 and ip5.ip 5 would likely be water resistant while ip 7 is water proofing
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You are wrong, it is
IP55 = Limited dust ingress protection low pressure water jets from any direction
and
IP57 = Limited dust ingress protection immersion between 15cm and 1m depth
And as long as the flaps are closed you'll be a ok.
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What the heck, I need to see one of these in real I think.
I really wanted one but now with all the talk of flaps I'm thinking twice...
go ahead and get it. this is the most rugged high end phone to date and probably for the entire year 2013. all the best.
Wilks3y said:
What the heck, I need to see one of these in real I think.
I really wanted one but now with all the talk of flaps I'm thinking twice...
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The flaps don't really disturb, To charge the phone you can use the dock, and for listening to music (if you do that a lot) you can go with bluetooth earphones.
And I've submerged my phone also in a galss of water and also took it into the shower, you should just make sure that you dry your phone before openening the flaps again, then avaerything should be fine
Great, Xperia looks like my upgrade then. May see some of you around here in a few months time when I'll be an owner
Have fun all, thanks very much for your responses.
Curious to hear some stories from those of you that have gotten your gear wet. I've done dishes (just splashes) and been in the rain with no problem.
Four days after getting it i accidently jumped in shower with it. I didnt notice untill it vibrated from a notifucation. And i was in there at least 10 minutes before that. No problems at all. To be noted i dont shower with it but it was good to know a full blast of water and shampoo didnt do anything to it.
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Four days after getting it i accidently jumped in shower with it. I didnt notice untill it vibrated from a notifucation. And i was in there at least 10 minutes before that. No problems at all. To be noted i dont shower with it but it was good to know a full blast of water and shampoo didnt do anything to it.
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Sincerely, With respect I do NOT suggest you make that a habit and other posters try to replicate that. The IP is rated at a mere 55. I suggest you are a very lucky person, in fact very lucky indeed. From reading this forum it is clear from many posts that even moisture caused by sweat has caused some owners problems in misting up the camera lens. Several members who use the Gear in a Gym have actually made their own under strap to prevent moisture touching the back of the Gear.
No confrontation on my part I just want to point out that what you did was maybe more to do with luck than the design capabilities of this watch?
Caution.
Regards
A little rain going into my car thats it!
Absolutely. It was a singular event that actually freaked me out. I have no intentions of duplicating that mistake nor advise anyone to do that just because i was fortunate. I love my gear and am excited to partucipate in all the new developements happening here.
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im a truck driver, im always out in the weather. i have put this watch through so much stress, i even banged it into a trailer!
theres still not a scratch on it and my watch is white, and its not even dirty(yet). very durable watch. i even wash my hands alot and gotten water
into the speaker on the strap. everything still works perfectly. :good:
Guess the better question is if anyone has had water damage and from what. I am very cautious with the watch and water. Wash my hands a lot slower now.. Lol. Basically treat it as it can't get wet. Don't know a lot of people who have the money to waste to test it's limits. I sure don't want to find out.
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Guess the better question is if anyone has had water damage and from what. I am very cautious with the watch and water. Wash my hands a lot slower now.. Lol. Basically treat it as it can't get wet. Don't know a lot of people who have the money to waste to test it's limits. I sure don't want to find out.
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I will say 'Amen' to that.
Have sweated in mine a lot and no problems.Played golf in the rain no problems.certainly not been in the shower but I think that proves that worrying about water damage in a normal days use is a non starter
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hhadrian said:
Have sweated in mine a lot and no problems.Played golf in the rain no problems.certainly not been in the shower but I think that proves that worrying about water damage in a normal days use is a non starter
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If you read this forum and other forums many people have not been as lucky as you. The Gear should certainly have been produced and designed with a higher IP rating. Sony has been doing this for some time. It is truly the Achilles tendon of the gear.
Regards
hhadrian said:
Have sweated in mine a lot and no problems.Played golf in the rain no problems.certainly not been in the shower but I think that proves that worrying about water damage in a normal days use is a non starter
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I have read the comments and apart from some misting on the camera lens water is not a problem, if I get very hot and sweaty mine mists up but it clears very quickly much like my car windscreen and I would not like to lose the camera on the gear or my car windscreen
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Submerged in Saltwater Fish Tank
Was tending to my Saltwater fish tank with the right hand. To make a long story short...a fish got in the way. I reached in with my left hand to get him out of the way. I forgot I had the watch on my left wrist. I had the GG in my 75 Gallon Saltwater tank for about 10 seconds. The S Voice sounded a lil gurgled for a bit. However, now everything seems fine. This happened 3 days ago.
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Was tending to my Saltwater fish tank with the right hand. To make a long story short...a fish got in the way. I reached in with my left hand to get him out of the way. I forgot I had the watch on my left wrist. I had the GG in my 75 Gallon Saltwater tank for about 10 seconds. The S Voice sounded a lil gurgled for a bit. However, now everything seems fine. This happened 3 days ago.
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For some actual visual of what the watch is rated for, this is the water part of an IP55 rating at 23 seconds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-J1QnQIhiA
And here is an IP55 rated radio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbDIB2yGuSY
Safe to say short of swimming with it, it should be fine.
How wet have you gotten your gear?
This sounds dirty... really wet! hahaha j/k sowwy.
Last night was the first time my watch got wet. I sweat heaps (and rather easily). Was at arcade and talked into a bit of impromptu dance dance revolution. Danced up a storm and sweated like a waterfall. No sign of moisture inside anywhere. If it continues that way, waterproofing is no longer a worry for me
Sucks that we have to worry about a watch like that...or is it just paranoia because of one guy and his 'it's only ip55 and therefore not workproof' stuff
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or is it just paranoia because of one guy and his 'it's only ip55 and therefore not workproof' stuff
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I think it's mostly this. You can't swim with it on, but look at the evidence here;
* Someone showered with it and no problems
* Someone dunked it in a fishtank and no problems (Salt water at that)
* Look at those videos I posted - that is literally an IP55 rating test.
The water in the camera thing seems to be the lack of a seal around the edge of the glass. That's NOT the lens, it's just a lens protector. Water in here won't hurt anything at all.
Wore it in the rain to test her out. Even used it while raining (not well, but I was kinda able to swipe back and forth). She still works like a champ with absolutely no problems. Worst case scenario I'll just buy another if this one takes a dive and gut it for parts to tinker with.
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You know, ive seen comments on the moisture in the camera and ive never gotten it even after my accidental shower incident and frequent handwashings.
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Check out this video on Youtube (add to the end of youtube.com) /watch?v=3o0MUGyU2Q4
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Wrathlon said:
I think it's mostly this. You can't swim with it on, but look at the evidence here;
* Someone showered with it and no problems
* Someone dunked it in a fishtank and no problems (Salt water at that)
* Look at those videos I posted - that is literally an IP55 rating test.
The water in the camera thing seems to be the lack of a seal around the edge of the glass. That's NOT the lens, it's just a lens protector. Water in here won't hurt anything at all.
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Shall we talk facts rather than opinion. See below.
"The International Organization for Standardization issued a standard for water resistant watches which also prohibits the term waterproof to be used with watches, which many countries have adopted. The international standard ISO 2281 Horology – Water-resistant watches defines the water resistance of watches. This standard was introduced in 1990 and only designed for watches intended for ordinary daily use and are resistant to water during exercises such as swimming for a short period. They may be used under conditions where water pressure and temperature vary. However, whether they bear an additional indication of overpressure or not, they are not intended for submarine diving.
The ISO 2281 standard specifies a detailed testing procedure for each mark that defines not only pressures but also test duration, water temperature, and other parameters. Besides this ISO 2859-2 Sampling plans indexed by limiting quality (LQ) for isolated lot inspection and ISO 2859-3 Sampling procedures for inspection by attributes – Part 3: Skip-lot sampling procedures concerning procedures regarding lot sampling testing come into play, since not every single watch has to be tested for ISO 2281 approval.
ISO 2281 water resistance testing of a watch consists of:
Resistance when immersed in water at a depth of 10 cm. Immersion of the watch in 10 cm of water for 1 hour.
Resistance of operative parts. Immersion of the watch in 10 cm of water with a force of 5 N perpendicular to the crown and pusher buttons (if any) for 10 minutes.
Condensation test. The watch shall be placed on a heated plate at a temperature between 40 °C and 45 °C until the watch has reached the temperature of the heated plate (in practice, a heating time of 10 minutes to 20 minutes, depending on the type of watch, will be sufficient). A drop of water, at a temperature between 18 °C and 25 °C shall be placed on the glass of the watch. After about 1 minute, the glass shall be wiped with a dry rag. Any watch which has condensation on the interior surface of the glass shall be eliminated.
Resistance to different temperatures. Immersion of the watch in 10 cm of water at the following temperatures for 5 minutes each, 40 °C, 20 °C and 40 °C again, with the transition between temperatures not to exceed 1 minute. No evidence of water intrusion or condensation is allowed.
Resistance to water overpressure. Immersion of the watch in a suitable pressure vessel and subjecting it within 1 minute to the rated pressure for 10 minutes, or to 2 bar in case where no additional indication is given. Then the overpressure is reduced to the ambient pressure within 1 minute. No evidence of water intrusion or condensation is allowed.
Resistance to air overpressure. Exposing the watch to an overpressure of 2 bar. The watch shall show no air-flow exceeding 50 μg/min.
No magnetic or shock resistance properties are required.
No negative pressure test is required.
No strap attachment test is required.
No corrosion test is required.
Except the thermal shock resistance test all further ISO 2281 testing should be conducted at 18 °C to 25 °C temperature. Regarding pressure ISO 2281 defines: 1 bar = 105 Pa = 105 N/m2.
In practice, the survivability of the watch will depend not only on the water depth, but also on the age of the sealing material, past damage, temperature, and additional mechanical stresses."
Further t this please also note the following;
"Water resistance rating Suitability Remarks
Water Resistant 3 ATM or 30 m Suitable for everyday use. Splash/rain resistant. NOT suitable for showering, bathing, swimming, snorkelling, water related work and fishing. NOT suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 5 ATM or 50 m Suitable for swimming, white water rafting, non-snorkeling water related work, and fishing. NOT suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 10 ATM or 100 m Suitable for recreational surfing, swimming, snorkeling, sailing and water sports. NOT suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 20 ATM or 200 m Suitable for professional marine activity, serious surface water sports and skin diving. Suitable for skin diving.
Diver's 100 m Minimum ISO standard (ISO 6425) for scuba diving at depths NOT suitable for saturation diving. Diver's 100 m and 150 m watches are generally old(er) watches.
Diver's 200 m or 300 m Suitable for scuba diving at depths NOT suitable for saturation diving. Typical ratings for contemporary diver's watches.
Diver's 300+ m for mixed-gas diving Suitable for saturation diving (helium enriched environment). Watches designed for mixed-gas diving will have the DIVER’S WATCH L M FOR MIXED-GAS DIVING additional marking to point this out.
Manufacturers water resistance classifications are interpretations and are not part of any ISO standard definition."
As you can read for yourself this is not me on some sort of quest to prove any point whatsoever, I don't need to its written for you above.
My aim is to try to prevent people from damaging their watch. Nothing more and nothing less.
From the above quotes you can clearly see that our galaxy gear is not even water resistant by definition and needs care when coming into any contact with water.
Personally speaking, I find this a total pain in the neck and a very large blunder on Samsung's part. This is a wrist watch and should at least be water resistant too 30m or put this way splash proof. Yes, your other daily watch that has written on the back " Water resistant to 30m does NOT mean that the watch can be submerged to a depth of 30m, you cant even shower or bath in it!.
This is one of the biggest complaints with the watch trade and one that causes numerous problems to all watch retailers and horologists. The 'standard' is absurd. See the above codification for yourself.
The other point that needs to be understood is just because one may shower in the Gear, Sauna in the Gear etc and the watch still functions is certainly NOT an indication that no damage was done, the opposite may apply, its often just a question of time and how long the water inside the Gear will take to cause a possible problem.
Those unfortunate owners who have the lens mist up due to water ingress, How many times do you think one can place the watch in rice and dry it out before corrosion starts to make some affect? Sure the watch may work today, for a week maybe even six months but as yet we simply don't have the living experience of what's to come as the device is so new.
Only now are those who abused the Sony Xperia Z mobile phones starting to find their mobiles are not at all 'water proof' and cannot be taken white water rapids, diving, boiled in soup or cooked in chocolate (I jest not go see the youtube clips) etc. .
This is the first time since 5 months that I trythe ip68 certificate just putting the phone under water in the handwash to wash the entire phone.
How much time do I need to wait to disappear the notification of USB port wet? It seems that the phone is getting hot. Also I use handsoap for wash it. Hope that not be a big deal...
There is something that I can do to get normal again?
Just wait, I accidentally splashed mine, the moisture notification disappeared after some 4 hours, it depends on ambient conditions, where I live it is 100% humid 24 hours, as I live 200 meters away from the beach..
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Just wait, I accidentally splashed mine, the moisture notification disappeared after some 4 hours, it depends on ambient conditions, where I live it is 100% humid 24 hours, as I live 200 meters away from the beach..
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The notification has gone but the phone is getting warm and it feels dampy.
I knoknows that depends of aambient conditions but I feel it different...
Thanks for your comment
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Conito11 said:
This is the first time since 5 months that I trythe ip68 certificate just putting the phone under water in the handwash to wash the entire phone.
How much time do I need to wait to disappear the notification of USB port wet? It seems that the phone is getting hot. Also I use handsoap for wash it. Hope that not be a big deal...
There is something that I can do to get normal again?
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I would try putting your phone in a bag of rice overnight to draw any water out that may have been forced in from the pressure of the running water. Never use soap on your phone or place it under running water. The soap lubricates the water and allows it to be more easily forced where it wasn't intended to go. I just use a microfiber cloth with lens cleaning solution sprayed on the cloth. Even doing this causes the moisture detected warning for a few.
Buy some anti-bacterial wipes to clean your phone with. There is absolutely no need to wash it with soap and water.
Conito11 said:
This is the first time since 5 months that I trythe ip68 certificate just putting the phone under water in the handwash to wash the entire phone.
How much time do I need to wait to disappear the notification of USB port wet? It seems that the phone is getting hot. Also I use handsoap for wash it. Hope that not be a big deal...
There is something that I can do to get normal again?
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Why on earth royals tu nerd soap to clean a phone? The i68 rating is about water resistance of under water. At 1 mtr for 30 minutes.. My figures may be wrong as they change from ip67 to ip68 but the point here is that you're not supposed yo it it under a tap!
He depth and time of water resistance is defined in these certifications because it is about pressure and time.. Eg The phone can hold up to the pressure at 1 mtr of hat ever depth has been mentioned in the rating for a maximum of the time given in the rating.
If it is 5 mtr 15 minutes, then it will not be damaged by water if it's 5 mrt see for 15 minutes max.. As time increases the pressure on the seals can and probably will get water into The phone.
Remember it is water resistant not waterproof! With a tap The after comes out with pressure and that could cause one of the seals to fail.
Also, soapy water is better at conducting electricity, it could have shorted out the phone and you would have a spotless but dead note 8.
Water resistant does not mean water proof and it certainly does not mean dunking the phone in water all the time. It is a safety measure which helps if you accidentally get it wet or drop it in a puddle.
The guys testing phones on YouTube are different as they try to push the limits but do not recommend it for others to follow or repeat Their tests
This us long but I see a lot of people are unaware and say their phone is waterproof.. I recently met a guy at a cellphone shop that is run by my friend.. The guy had an IPhone 7 or 7s or 7s+ if there's one.
He got it wet accidentally, spilled water on it and it died.. I asked him whether he went to apple he said he did and they want Rs. 35000 which is $500 to replace it.
I told him that it is supposed to be ip67 or ip68 so they should cover it under warranty.. But they never offered him this solution..
Don't you think it is wrong that they claim water resistance and it dies because of a splash and they do not cover it?
Hope this helps..
centaur31 said:
Why on earth royals tu nerd soap to clean a phone? The i68 rating is about water resistance of under water. At 1 mtr for 30 minutes.. My figures may be wrong as they change from ip67 to ip68 but the point here is that you're not supposed yo it it under a tap!
He depth and time of water resistance is defined in these certifications because it is about pressure and time.. Eg The phone can hold up to the pressure at 1 mtr of hat ever depth has been mentioned in the rating for a maximum of the time given in the rating.
If it is 5 mtr 15 minutes, then it will not be damaged by water if it's 5 mrt see for 15 minutes max.. As time increases the pressure on the seals can and probably will get water into The phone.
Remember it is water resistant not waterproof! With a tap The after comes out with pressure and that could cause one of the seals to fail.
Also, soapy water is better at conducting electricity, it could have shorted out the phone and you would have a spotless but dead note 8.
Water resistant does not mean water proof and it certainly does not mean dunking the phone in water all the time. It is a safety measure which helps if you accidentally get it wet or drop it in a puddle.
The guys testing phones on YouTube are different as they try to push the limits but do not recommend it for others to follow or repeat Their tests
This us long but I see a lot of people are unaware and say their phone is waterproof.. I recently met a guy at a cellphone shop that is run by my friend.. The guy had an IPhone 7 or 7s or 7s+ if there's one.
He got it wet accidentally, spilled water on it and it died.. I asked him whether he went to apple he said he did and they want Rs. 35000 which is $500 to replace it.
I told him that it is supposed to be ip67 or ip68 so they should cover it under warranty.. But they never offered him this solution..
Don't you think it is wrong that they claim water resistance and it dies because of a splash and they do not cover it?
Hope this helps..
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Nice opinion and as you Said: waterproof is not the same like water resistant.
As I have seen reading several posts regarding this issue about claiming warranty due to water damage, it is very difficult if not impossible to get a device fixed by means of warranty under this circumstances, because the damage might be caused by exceeding the max allowed depth, or the time it was submerged and, if the device was put into a strong flow of water, as they can not verify anything about these possible scenarios, they refuse to make valid the warranty
Some people have misunderstandings about the waterproof function of mobile phones. They think that if the phone has a waterproof function, water will not enter the phone. This is not the case.
Waterproof rating is 0-8.
IPX-1：Protection against vertically dripping water
IPX-2：Protection against vertically dripping water when device is tilted at an angle up to 15 degrees
IPX-3：Protection against direct sprays of water when device is tilted at an angle up to 60 degrees
IPX-4：Protection from sprays and splashing of water in all directions.
IPX-5：Protection from low-pressure water projected from a nozzle with a 6.3mm diameter opening in any direction
IPX-6：Protection from water projected in powerful jets from a nozzle with a 12.5mm diameter opening in any direction
IPX-7：Protected from immersion in water with a depth of up to 1 meter (or 3.3 feet) for up to 30 minutes
IPX-8：Protected from immersion in water with a depth of more than 1 meter (manufacturer must specify exact depth)
The phone supports waterproof but not professional waterproof, it is splash-proof and water-resistant. The mobile phone has reached the standard waterproof level at the factory, but it is not permanent. The bumping, squeezing, falling, etc. in daily life may damage the waterproof membrane and reduce the waterproof ability.
Therefore, it is recommended to avoid contact with the water source during normal use. If your mobile phone does not support waterproof function, you need to pay more attention.
Like your thread.
Very good write down. Very helpful
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MirageBlader said:
Very good write down. Very helpful
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Thanks!
Yummy99 said:
Some people have misunderstandings about the waterproof function of mobile phones. They think that if the phone has a waterproof function, water will not enter the phone. This is not the case.
Waterproof rating is 0-8.
IPX-1：Protection against vertically dripping water
IPX-2：Protection against vertically dripping water when device is tilted at an angle up to 15 degrees
IPX-3：Protection against direct sprays of water when device is tilted at an angle up to 60 degrees
IPX-4：Protection from sprays and splashing of water in all directions.
IPX-5：Protection from low-pressure water projected from a nozzle with a 6.3mm diameter opening in any direction
IPX-6：Protection from water projected in powerful jets from a nozzle with a 12.5mm diameter opening in any direction
IPX-7：Protected from immersion in water with a depth of up to 1 meter (or 3.3 feet) for up to 30 minutes
IPX-8：Protected from immersion in water with a depth of more than 1 meter (manufacturer must specify exact depth)
The phone supports waterproof but not professional waterproof, it is splash-proof and water-resistant. The mobile phone has reached the standard waterproof level at the factory, but it is not permanent. The bumping, squeezing, falling, etc. in daily life may damage the waterproof membrane and reduce the waterproof ability.
Therefore, it is recommended to avoid contact with the water source during normal use. If your mobile phone does not support waterproof function, you need to pay more attention.
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I have never water damaged a phone which is ip68 and I use them in water a lot. These are just bad manufacturers excuses. As long as you wash the phone off with fresh water and allow to dry properly before charging (and don't buy Sony phones), you're good to go.
Calling it waterproof all the time won't help your point here mate ? it's *water resistant you'll want to put instead.