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When i connect my iphones pandora to my chromecast the tv plays the music like it should, and the music on the tv matches what is displayed on my iphone, volume works, skip, pause all works like it should. However, when i go to the ipod app on my iphone and press play the iphone stops pandora and plays the ipod like it should, but the chromecast on the TV keeps playing pandora. when i go to the pandora app on the phone it has to restart (like it wasnt running in the background) and starts playing a song, but the song is different than the one chromecast is playing. the iphones controls no longer control chromecast like it did before and chromecast will continue to play song after song even when the iphone is turned off completley. when i change the input on the tv to cable or something else the chromecast will make the tv switch back to it when the next song starts, it will also turn my tv on if i turn the tv off. the only way i can get the chromecast to turn off is to unplug the power. does anyone know why its doing this? as far at i know the chromecast is just to transfer media from another device to a tv, not make its own media. where is it getting the pandora from?
shordinges said:
as far at i know the chromecast is just to transfer media from another device to a tv, not make its own media. where is it getting the pandora from?
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That's where you're wrong, you aren't 'slinging' the actual content to your Chromecast, just the login/tokens and content SELECTION to the chromecast... then it takes over, it runs a regular instance of chrome on the chromecast and does all the streaming of the media directly on the chromecast over the internet... for instance, I can start watching Netflix on my Chromecast from my Android phone... I can then put my phone into airplane mode (which turns off wifi), it will continue playing Netflix... luckily, on Android, when I reconnect, and open Netflix, it realizes that my Chromecast is already playing, and gives me control again. Probably just an iOS bug with Pandora, I would just stop playing it before jumping over to the standard music app, or... Use an an Android device.
*edit*: the exception to the above is if you're casting a tab from a desktop/laptop browser, then you are encoding whatever is on the tab to video, then decoding it on the Chromecast.... This would require the computer as a intermediary as the page itself will always be rendered on the PC.
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*edit*: the exception to the above is if you're casting a tab from a desktop/laptop browser, then you are encoding whatever is on the tab to video, then decoding it on the Chromecast.... This would require the computer as a intermediary as the page itself will always be rendered on the PC.
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Or if you have a rooted Chromecast and you are using AllCast to play media from your Android phone/tablet.
(depending on what you are watching)
Sent from my Nexus 9 using XDA Free mobile app
which app can I use on Android to cast from a NAS without transiting through my phone (Galaxy S4)??
I've tried LocalCast and the ES File Manager chromecast plugin and both stream my files to my phone and then on the chromecast... What a useless loop...
NAS -> wireless N router -> phone -> wireless N router -> chromecast
How can I make it stream directly from the NAS in that sort of way: NAS -> Router -> chromecast, and the phone as remote controller????
Thanks you
mathieums said:
How can I make it stream directly from the NAS in that sort of way: NAS -> Router -> chromecast, and the phone as remote controller????
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If your NAS supports DLNA you might have more luck. If it strictly supports only CIFS/SMB/AFP type file-sharing, I don't know of any apps whose Chromecast component can browse those.
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If your NAS supports DLNA you might have more luck. If it strictly supports only CIFS/SMB/AFP type file-sharing, I don't know of any apps whose Chromecast component can browse those.
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well, I say NAS but in reality it is a HDD conencted to a Asus RT-N16 router running tomatousb which (I think) runs minidlna of something similar.
My smart TV, xbox, ps3, computers... they all see the files and stream it no problem.
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well, I say NAS but in reality it is a HDD conencted to a Asus RT-N16 router running tomatousb which (I think) runs minidlna of something similar.
My smart TV, xbox, ps3, computers... they all see the files and stream it no problem.
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OK. Check BubbleUPnP or maybe Avia. I'm pretty sure there as one early app that later started pulling directly, but I can't remember which one it was at the moment. I think it was discussed in a thread here.
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OK. Check BubbleUPnP or maybe Avia. I'm pretty sure there as one early app that later started pulling directly, but I can't remember which one it was at the moment. I think it was discussed in a thread here.
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Thank you. I'll look into it right now!
If you're lucky @Asphyx might remember
I think Bubble may be the answer provided no transcoding is required.
I know the dev was dabbling in limited in device transcoding as well but not sure where that is at or if it is even needed for Music.
aVia most definitely runs everything through the phone if I'm not Mistaken but that too could have changed since I least used it.
Pretty much everything I stream to CCast now is via Plex which does not require the launch device to stay on.
Most 3rd party Content providers whose content is on the web and who support CCast via the casting icon will send the stream direct.
That would include Pandora, Hulu Etc...
Bubble or Plex is probably the best option but both will require a PC to handle the streaming.
It doesn't take much or affect the PC's ability to function but it will require an always on PC.
I think last time I checked (which was more than a year ago, probably closer to 2), Avia kept streaming from my server running Serviio (UPnP server) even after I rebooted my phone, but I'm not in a spot that I can retest this.
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I think Bubble may be the answer provided no transcoding is required.
I know the dev was dabbling in limited in device transcoding as well but not sure where that is at or if it is even needed for Music.
aVia most definitely runs everything through the phone if I'm not Mistaken but that too could have changed since I least used it.
Pretty much everything I stream to CCast now is via Plex which does not require the launch device to stay on.
Most 3rd party Content providers whose content is on the web and who support CCast via the casting icon will send the stream direct.
That would include Pandora, Hulu Etc...
Bubble or Plex is probably the best option but both will require a PC to handle the streaming.
It doesn't take much or affect the PC's ability to function but it will require an always on PC.
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I've just tried Bubble and it works with the launch device turned off. Exactly what I was looking for :good:
Avia is a paid app, I didn't try it. I'll look into Plex, thanks!
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I've just tried Bubble and it works with the launch device turned off. Exactly what I was looking for :good:
Avia is a paid app, I didn't try it. I'll look into Plex, thanks!
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In some respects Plex is a semi-paid app...
You don't need to pay to use it with a CCast but to get everythig requires a Plex pass account which has grown very expensive from the day when I bought my lifetime membership.
If Bubble works and the interface is not an issue then stick with it...
Plex is a little prettier and does full scraping of titles for a better display but if all you want to do is fling content you might not need all of that.
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FAQ is split into two parts because... I write too much.
TABLE OF CONTENTS (Note: Only 1st level for brevity)
PART 1: (just scroll down)
General
What can I do with a Chromecast?
How can Chromecast keep playing when I disconnect/shut down/reboot my phone/tablet/computer?
How is Chromecast different from Apple AirPlay?
Can I use Chromecast outside of the United States?
How does Chromecast differ from using a TV output option on my phone/tablet/computer?
How does Chromecast differ from other media players like Roku and Apple TV?
I'm having trouble setting up my Chromecast with the app - is there a manual setup?
Any known issues with routers?
What control protocol does Chromecast use?
Can I have more than one Chromecast on the same network?
Can I cast to more than one Chromecast at the same time, from the same device?
My Chromecast came with a 3-month Netflix subscription code. I'm already a Netflix subscriber, can I use this?
My Chromecast came with a $6 Google Play Movies credit. What can I use that for?
What wireless type does Chromecast use?
What are the LED statuses for Chromecast?
Where is the Chromecast source? Known issues?
Can Chromecast control my TV?
Where is the Chromecast API or SDK?
Can I use a wired Ethernet connection with Chromecast for better bandwidth/performance?
Capabilities
What official apps and sites does Chromecast support?
What media types does Chromecast support?
Can I cast media stored on my phone/tablet?
Can I cast media stored on my computer?
Can I cast my computer's desktop?
Can I cast my phone/tablet's screen?
Can I cast a browser tab?
Can I use my computer's speakers while casting to Chromecast?
Can I use a DNS other than Google?
Can I specify what output resolution (480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p, etc) Chromecast uses?
Can I use Chromecast on a public hotspot or hotel Wi-Fi?
Do I need to have another device with WiFi in order to use Chromecast? Can't I just use it from a wired device on my network?
Casting my own media - which app is the best?
Connectivity
Can I connect Chromecast to...
How do I get audio from Chromecast out my...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2563143#post48788011
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Root
Which Chromecasts are rootable?
My Chromecast is supposed to be rootable, but it has already downloaded a Google OTA update. Can I still root it?
How do I root?
What does root give me?
How can I check what firmware build my Chromecast has if I can't connect it to the Internet?
I had root with Eureka-ROM and now it appears I don't?
Official Apps (Questions pertaining to them, not a comprehensive list of official applications)
YouTube
HBO GO
Avia
Plex
Netflix
RealPlayer Cloud
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PART 1
General
What can I do with a Chromecast?
Read Google's walkthrough, it's much better than the Chromecast product page. Also see Google's Chromecast app page. Here is a list of Chromecast-enabled apps on the Play store.
Important to note here that Chromecast is not a "wireless replacement for a HDMI cable" in all cases. Save for screen-mirroring (coming), use of Chromecast requires that each individual application support it, unlike an HDMI cable which shows the device's entire screen.
In this manner, Chromecast is more like an accessory that enhances applications that support it.
One advantage Chromecast has over an HDMI cable is that it can run at full 1080p on the TV, whereas HDMI cable connections can be limited to device's screen resolution.
Even though Chromecast is technically a standalone device, it's best to think of it as an extension of your tablet or phone's capabilities, rather than a full-fledged device.
How can Chromecast keep playing when I disconnect/shut down/reboot my phone/tablet/computer?
Yes. See this post for more.
How is Chromecast different from Apple AirPlay?
See this discussion.
Can I use Chromecast outside of the United States?
As of March 19, 2014 Chromecast is now available in Canada and Europe.
You can use Chromecast in other countries but without extra fiddling you will only have access to services available in your country. Region-aware services like YouTube, Netflix and Hulu will only show you content for your country.
To view content from other countries will require using a DNS relocation service or VPN to get content from another region if the app is not supported in your region. @bagl0312 wrote a guide that should apply to most OpenWRT-based routers.
See this discussion and Can I use a DNS other than Google? below.
Also, allowed wireless channels vary outside of the US/Canada, so you might have to set your AP/router to a specific channel if it likes to auto-select one that Chromecast doesn't use.
How does Chromecast differ from using a TV output option on my phone/tablet/computer?
The TV output of your phone/tablet/computer shows everything from your phone/tablet/computer, which can be quite nice. But, of course, the output on your TV is dependent on your phone/tablet/computer - you can't turn your phone/tablet/computer off an expect what's playing to continue playing on your TV.
Chromecast, on the other hand, operates independently like a "second screen" type device. You send a request from your phone/tablet/computer to Chromecast and it goes and handle the request to play video, music, etc on its own. Unless you are streaming content stored on your phone/tablet/computer, your phone/tablet/computer is just used to monitor and control Chromecast. You can turn it off, or even have another device take over control. Your phone/tablet/computer is just the remote control for the Chromecast playback, and just like a TV remote control, the TV keeps playing if you take the remote away - you just can't control it. And Chromecast is wireless.
If you have a spare Android device with WiFi and TV output, you can try using that as a Chromecast with [App] Cast Receiver app for Android or [App] YouMap Chromecast Receiver for Android
(Below no longer works as of Cast SDK 2.0 release)
If you have a spare Android device with WiFi and TV output, you can turn that into a Chromecast with Cheapcast.
If you already happen to have a computer connected to your TV, you can use it as a Chromecast with the CR Cast extension or Leapcast for Google Chrome.
How does Chromecast differ from other media players like Roku and Apple TV?
There's no remote. Your phone/computer/tablet is your remote. That means no more searching for the remote!
While Chromecast may not have quite as wide a variety of content available, the the list of applications continues to grow.
I'm having trouble setting up my Chromecast with the app - is there a manual setup?
Yes. Go here: https://cast.google.com/chromecast/setup?np=manualsetup
Also check Google's Chromecast setup pages and Troubleshooter.
Any known issues with routers?
Here's Google's Router Compatibility list. (The old Router Known Issues & Workarounds page seems to be no longer)
At least one person needed to disable Parental Controls on their router. Access Control and Content Filtering do similar things so if you are having trouble, try toggling those options as well.
Also, there are some WiFi Bandwidth and Router considerations to consider as well. Sustainable WiFi bandwidth is critical for a smooth casting experience.
ISP-supplied Cisco DPC3825 seems not to allow Chromecast traffic between wired and wireless segments. See this post.
If you suspect there is a bandwidth or router issue and have Netflix, you can try this diagnostic video
What control protocol does Chromecast use?
Chromecast uses the DIAL protocol for discovery and casting.
Can I have more than one Chromecast on the same network?
Yes. Available Chromecasts will appear in a list by name when you initiate the cast.
Can I cast to more than one Chromecast at the same time, from the same device?
Yes, but only from different apps, for example, casting HBO GO to Chromecast #1 while casting YouTube to Chromecast #2.
My Chromecast came with a 3-month Netflix subscription code. I'm already a Netflix subscriber, can I use this?
(Expired)
Yes! And be sure to use it (or give it to a friend or family member) before December 31, 2013 because that's the date the code expires!
jbl0ggs reports:
According to Netflix rep, the 3-month Netflix code from the Chromecast promo, can be redeemed until 01/31/2014
It'll add on to an existing subscription anyway, so don't delay!
My Chromecast came with a $6 Google Play Movies credit. What can I use that for?
The credit applies to your Google Wallet, so you can use the credit for any content on the Google Play Store except for subscriptions. In other words, anything in Google Play Store with the exception of hardware and subscriptions.
Be sure to redeem your code before March 31, 2014 because that's the date those codes expire, and the funds must be used by March 31, 2015.
What wireless type does Chromecast use?
From the Play Store specifications Chromecast supports 2.4 GHz 802.11 b/g/n, though I really don't recommend trying it on an 802.11b network unless you have zero interference and minimal other usage.
What are the LED statuses for Chromecast?
Blinking white - Chromecast is not connected to a WiFi access point, or it needs to be set up.
* In current FlashCast, this means flashing is in progress.
Solid white - Chromecast is connected to a WiFi access point. It may or may not be able to reach the Internet.
* In older versions of FlashCast, this means flashing is in progress.
Solid red - in the boot process (it should go white afterward), settings reset has been requested (by holding the button down)
* In FlashCast, this means there was a problem flashing. Bad/missing eureka_image.zip or Chromecast may not be rootable.
Where is the Chromecast source? Known issues?
Mirrored source
Cast SDK issues
Google Cast Release Notes
Can Chromecast control my TV?
For automatic TV power-on and channel-switching, Chromecast uses HDMI-CEC. Most TVs with HDMI support CEC. Computer monitors, projectors and non-televisions generally do not support CEC.
HDMI-CEC functionality is sometimes known by other names such as LG Simplink, Panasonic VIERA Link, Samsung Anynet+, Sony BRAVIA Sync. Your TV must have this feature enabled for the input Chromecast is connected to.
In order for Chromecast to turn your TV on, it must be powered on - not all TVs provide USB power while switched off, so it is recommended to use wall power for Chromecast if you want it to be able to turn your TV on automatically.
Chromecast does not turn the TV off.
Where is the Chromecast API or SDK?
As of February 3, 2014, it is here!
Can I use a wired Ethernet connection with Chromecast for better bandwidth/performance?
Yes, Google has released an Ethernet Adapter for Chromecast. The adapter is a combined power and OTG Ethernet adapter. The network plugs into the power "brick" which then has a long single cable that goes to the Chromecast. When using the Ethernet adapter you do *not* need to provide your wireless credentials to Chromecast. Unfortunately, because the Ethernet is hardwired to the OTG lines, you cannot use the official Ethernet adapter in conjunction with a powered OTG cable or USB storage. Some third-party USB Ethernet adapters should work if you want to easily switch out USB peripherals on rooted ROMs. Google "Chromecast OTG ethernet"
Capabilities
What official apps and sites does Chromecast support?
See Google's list of Chromecast apps.
You can also check the Chromecast section of Google Play on your Android device for applications that support Chromecast. Store Home > Apps > Categories > Chromecast button at top
Or you can check the list of Chromecast-enabled apps on the Play store.
What media types does Chromecast support?
See Google's Supported media types page. Also, Avia notes that Chromecast has difficulty with media bit rates over 10 Mbps. @Asphyx recommends "Encode in H.264 Codec MP4. Keep the Video Bitrate lower than 4000."
The author of BubbleUPnP has some great information regarding bandwidth and on-the-fly transcoding requirements and how it affects Chromecast streaming. The page is geared toward BubbleUPnP Server, but the information applies to all local-network Chromecast streaming applications.
Can I cast media stored on my phone/tablet?
If media is in a format compatible with Chromecast...
Avia UPnP/DLNA Media Player (paid option)
Besides using the Avia app to browse, you can also Share most media types to the Avia app and cast that way.
BubbleUPnP (free for Chromecast-native formats, transcoding requires pay BubbleUPnP Server for no time limit, embedded subtitles supported via transcoding, external .SRT subtitles supported for native and transcoded)
AllCast (pay)
RealPlayer Cloud (free, transcoding requires upload to their cloud service)
Transcoding allows a file that is not natively supported by Chromecast to be converted on-the-fly for playback on Chromecast.
Can I cast media stored on my computer?
If it will play directly in Chrome, you can use the Cast extension to cast it. (Chromecast-native formats)
Chromecast Video Chrome extension allows selectioni of video files from computer and send to Chromecast. (Chromecast-native formats)
BubbleUPnP Server will transcode as necessary for Chromecast playback, thus making all your stored media castable. Note that this can require significant CPU horsepower depending on the formats involved.
Plex Media Server will transcode as necessary for Chromecast playback, thus making all your stored media castable. Note that this can require significant CPU horsepower depending on the formats involved.
If you are running a DLNA-compliant server such as Plex Media Server or BubbleUPnP Server on your computer, the following client apps can pull from it and cast to Chromecast:
AllCast (pay)
Avia (paid option)
BubbleUPnP (free for Chromecast-native formats, transcoding requires pay BubbleUPnP Server for no time limit, embedded subtitles supported via transcoding, external .SRT subtitles supported for native and transcoded)
Plex
Can I cast my computer's desktop?
Yes, via the Cast extension for the Chrome browser. Note that there will be some lag between what you see on the computer and what you see on Chromecast as performance will depend greatly on your computer's processing power and your (home) network's bandwidth and latency. See this discussion for more.
Can I cast my phone/tablet's screen?
Android screen mirroring to Chromecast was officially announced at Google I/O 2014 and went live July 9, 2014. It currently requires KitKat 4.4.1 or higher and a supported device, though see below...
Supported devices at the moment are
Nexus 4
Google Nexus 5
Google Nexus 7 (2013)
Google Nexus 10
Samsung Galaxy S4
Samsung Galaxy S5
Samsung Galaxy Note 3
Samsung Galaxy Note 10 (2014)
HTC One M7
LG G Pro2
LG G2
LG G3
The list is expected to grow, though the exact device limitations/requirements for screen casting are still not known.
r3pwn has created an enabler to use screen mirroring on unsupported devices. Your mileage may vary, but worth checking out.
The lag for screen mirror is minimal under ideal conditions
If you can't get native mirroring for whatever reason, there is a pure software mirror called mirror4cast. It requires root and performance is nowhere near the native screen mirroring, but it does show what's on the Android display and works on devices running older Android versions.
Can I cast a browser tab?
Yes, via the Cast extension for the Chrome browser
with video?
Yes, though playback performance will depend greatly on the source format of the video, your computer's processing power and your (home) network's bandwidth and latency.
with full screen video?
Yes, subject to above, just full-screen the video and it should appear full-screen on Chromecast as well. You can Alt-Tab (Windows) or Cmd-Tab (Mac OS) to let things play in the background while you do other tasks
Can I use my computer's speakers while casting to Chromecast?
While casting, audio will be redirected to Chromecast, so audio will play out of your TV, not your PC. Besides, even if you got the PC speakers playing audio, it would be out of sync with the video on your TV because of compression/decompression and network transfer delay between your computer and Chromecast.
Can I use a DNS other than Google?
By default Chromecast uses Google's DNS servers, regardless of what your DHCP-supplied DNS is.
Stock
You might be able to have Chromecast "fall back" to DHCP-supplied DNS by having your router
Block requests to the Google DNS servers
Route Google DNS IPs to a bogus gateway.
Use your router's advanced or parental control to set specific DNS servers for specific clients.
Which one works will depend on your router's response. See this this thread
If you have a more-intelligent router, you can set up iptables rules to intercept and re-route DNS requests to a different DNS server.
Rooted
Flashcast-AutoRoot lets you set the DNS in /data/dns.conf
Eureka-ROM defaults to using the DHCP-supplied DNS servers, and includes presets for common DNS relocators, or you can set manually specify DNS IPs.
If you are not using Eureka-ROM, there is a mod to use DHCP-supplied DNS. There are also mods to use the Unlocator DNS service and use the UnoTelly DNS service.
Can I specify what output resolution (480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p, etc) Chromecast uses?
Not at this time. You can specify streaming resolution for tab casting, but as far as actual output resolution, Chromecast appears to use the HDMI handshake to determine what it should output. This can potentially be a problem for displays that report 1080p support but do not correctly support 1080p input.
Can I use Chromecast on a public hotspot or hotel Wi-Fi?
While Chromecast might connect to a public hotspot or hotel Wi-Fi network, most public hotspots and hotel Wi-Fi networks are configured to disallow connections between clients, which will prevent Chromecast from receiving cast requests and control from your tablet/phone/computer.
Also, most of them require accepting some Terms of Service in a browser. Since Chromecast has no interface, you can't accept the terms. The same applies if the service requires a passcode or other authentication.
Do I need to have another device with WiFi in order to use Chromecast? Can't I just use it from a wired device on my network?
Yes, at least for setup. Chromecast setup requires a supported Windows computer with WiFi, Mac OS computer with WiFi, Android device with WiFi, or iOS device with WiFi in order to set up Chromecast. This is because Chromecast acts as an access point during its setup process, so you need a WiFi-enabled device to connect to its access point to configure it. Once it is set up and connected to your wireless network, you can cast to Chromecast from both wired and wireless devices (assuming you're on the same subnet and wireless and wired networks are bridged, which is the default for most routers).
Casting my own media - which app is the best?
It all depends on your needs and your media.
@Asphyx posted a comprehensive comparison of the initial offerings.
There are a number of offerings now including BubbleUPnP, Plex, Avia, RealPlayer Cloud, Localcast, etc. so it's probably best to do some searching and read feedback from other users to determine what's best for your case.
Old information based on the initial offerings (Avia, Plex, RealPlayer Cloud) hidden below.
Avia is better if...
Your primary playback client is your Android phone/tablet
All your media is in a Chromecast-compatible format, or you are willing to convert it to a Chromecast-compatible format
You have a lot of media on your phone/tablet that you want to play and is Chromecast-compatible
You have a DLNA server that is not a Plex server and you want to cast content from it
You don't want to have a media server running (you don't have a server, or a system you're willing to have running for media playback)
BubbleUPnP is better if...
Your primary playback client is your Android phone/tablet
All your media is in a Chromecast-compatible format, you are willing to convert it to a Chromecast-compatible format, or you are willing to run BubbleUPnP server
You have a lot of media on your phone/tablet that you want to play and is Chromecast-compatible
You have a DLNA server that is not a Plex server and you want to cast content from it
You don't want to have a media server running (you don't have a server, or a system you're willing to have running for media playback), but you want the option to use one in the future (BubbleUPnP Server)
Plex is better if...
Your media is not in a Chromecast-compatible format or you have no idea what that means
You have no clue what transcoding means, or you know what transcoding means, but you are unwilling to transcode your media library to make it Chromecast-compatible
You are okay with running Plex Media Server on a system for media playback
You have multiple playback devices (Roku, etc) that you use
RealPlayer Cloud is better if...
You need transcoding but are unwilling or unable to have a Plex Media Server in your network
You want the convenience of having media on the RealPlayer Cloud
You don't mind uploading non-Chromecast-compatible media to RealPlayer Cloud
Connectivity
Can I connect Chromecast to...
a computer monitor?
Yes, in most cases, as long as the computer monitor supports video (as opposed to computer graphics) over HDMI or DVI.
Note that connecting over DVI may not provide audio, so you may need an HDMI audio extractor device to "break out" the audio to go to speakers or an aux input.
a HDTV with VGA?
To be honest, it's probably cheaper and easier to upgrade your TV to one with HDMI.
Yes, but it will require some kind of HDMI-to-VGA or HDMI-to-RGB converter, preferably one with audio output(s) like the HDfury2 or newer.
If the converter does not have audio output(s), you will also need an HDMI audio extractor device to "break out" the audio to go to speakers or an aux input.
a HDTV with analog component HD input?
To be honest, it's probably cheaper and easier to upgrade your TV to one with HDMI.
Yes, but it will require some kind of HDMI-to-Component converter, preferably one with audio output(s) like the HDfury2 or newer.
If the converter does not have audio output(s), you will also need an HDMI audio extractor device to "break out" the audio to go to speakers or an aux input.
a TV without HD inputs?
To be honest, it's probably cheaper and easier to upgrade to an HDTV with HDMI.
Yes, but it will require some kind of converter to convert HDMI to SD Component, S-Video or Composite video and audio.
Unless your TV automatically handles widescreen input and the converter you choose sets the widescreen flag on output, make sure to get a converter that handles aspect ratio conversion (ARC, not to be confused with Audio Return Channel for HDMI, which is also ARC) as the Chromecast outputs 16:9 widescreen. Otherwise your Chromecast output will be horizontally squashed (people will be extra skinny).
If the converter does not have audio output(s), you will also need an HDMI audio extractor device to "break out" the audio to go to speakers or an aux input. See this discussion.
an UltraHD ("4K") TV?
Sure. The TV will upscale the Chromecast output to the TV's native resolution.
How do I get audio from Chromecast out my...
AV receiver?
If your Chromecast is plugged into your AV receiver, it should pick up the audio automatically.
If Chromecast is connected to your TV and both support ARC (Audio Return Channel), Chromecast's audio should be able to route through the HDMI cable connected between your TV and AV receiver.
If Chromecast is connected to your TV and one or both do not support ARC, then you will need to take the audio output from your TV back to your AV receiver. TVs usually have a Digital output for this purpose, either coax SPDIF or optical TOSlink which you can take back to your receiver. If you TV's output and receiver's input don't match, you can get a Coax-to-Optical or Optical-to-Coax converter box.
If Chromecast is connected to your TV, and one or both do not support ARC, and your TV does not have a digital audio output, then you will need to use analog audio, or get an HDMI audio extractor box to "break out" the audio from the HDMI stream so you can route it to your receiver.
external sound bar or speakers?
If your sound bar or speakers have HDMI input the information above about hooking up to an AV receiver applies.
For other situations, you will need an HDMI audio extractor box to "break out" the audio from the HDMI stream so you can route it to your receiver as either a digital or analog signal.
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PART 2
Root
For additional root questions, please see the Root Mini-FAQ: What's the big deal with root? thread.
Which Chromecasts are rootable?
A new root exploit was released on August 22, 2014. This exploit covers devices with builds older than 19084 (the exploit was patched in build 19084) and requires a Teensy 2.0 or 2++ development board along with a powered USB OTG cable and 1G+ flash drive. See this post for all the details!
Old: Currently only devices with the original vulnerable bootloader (firmware build 12072) can be rooted.
As newer Chromecasts are already shipping with newer firmware versions (and therefore no vulnerable bootloader), the serial number seems the most reliable way to tell whether an unused, unopened Chromecast can be rooted.
Once set up, a stock Chromecast will automatically update its firmware (OTA updates from Google), so the serial number test is not valid for Chromecasts that have already connected to the Internet, unless you are very lucky and it has not yet downloaded or applied an update. See this discussion.
My Chromecast is supposed to be rootable, but it has already downloaded a Google OTA update. Can I still root it?
A new root exploit was released on August 22, 2014. This exploit covers devices with newer bootloaders (12940-17977, perhaps newer), but requires a Teensy 2.0 or 2++ development board along with a powered USB OTG cable and 1G+ flash drive. See this post for all the details!
Old: If Chromecast has not applied any OTA update, and you did not let it perform the update at boot, then you may be able to abort the update and still root it by opening it, jumping some pins and booting a FlashCast USB stick (it will delete the cached OTA update data). Not for the faint of heart! See this discussion.
If your Chromecast has already applied any OTA update (your firmware build is no longer 12072), then no. Once an update is applied, the bootloader vulnerability is removed and you can no longer root with FlashCast.
How do I root?
A new root exploit was released on August 22, 2014. This exploit covers devices with newer bootloaders (12940-17977, perhaps newer), but requires a Teensy 2.0 or 2++ development board along with a powered USB OTG cable and 1G+ flash drive. See this post for all the details!
Old: You go from a stock Chromecast to a rooted Chromecast by using FlashCast to write a rooted firmware (like Eureka-ROM) by using the vulnerability in the original bootloader. The first time you use FlashCast you have to plug it into and boot it on Chromecast twice - first to prepare the FlashCast stick to accept mods, and the second time to flash a rooted, OTA-disabled firmware so you don't lose root.
Read the Cliff notes version of the procedure, longer more-detailed version, or watch a video of the flashing/rooting process. For a flowchart and troubleshooting, see the Rooting with FlashCast Mini-FAQ.
What does root give me?
ADB, Telnet, SSH, protection from Google OTA updates, ability to run unofficial apps (via Eureka-ROM), ability to change default behavior (like use a different DNS than Google) and the power to peek into the dark corners of your device. See this discussion.
Unofficial apps
Audiour - free audio sharing Info & Download
put.io - download torrents to cloud storage, rather than local
See this post
AllCast (aka AirCast/KoushCast) old beta - stock Chromecasts should use released AllCast - send video stored on Android phone/tablet to Chromecast Download & Info
fling - send (Chromecast-compatible) video stored on computer to Chromecast Download & Info No longer works with Cast SDK 2.0
Custom firmware (installing one of these is REQUIRED to preserve root!)
Flashcast-AutoRoot Keeps up-to-date with Google updates, automatically rooting on install. No extra features, but you can customize since you have root. Must install another rooted firmware like Eureka-ROM first! (See hidden below)
Eureka-ROM (KyoCast functionality and Use DHCP-provided DNS mods built-in, plus automatic Eureka-ROM OTA updates that upgrade while preserving root and a nifty web management panel)
USB storage can be mounted via shell, see this thread.
Stock OS with updates disabled (to preserve root)[/url] no longer maintained, use Flashcast-AutoRoot
Rooted build 13300 (ADB and telnet enabled, OTA updates disabled)
PwnedCast - replaced by Eureka-ROM above. Existing PwnedCast installs will OTA upgrade to Eureka-ROM, unless you have disabled PwnedCast OTA updates.
Mods (apply on top of rooted/custom firmware)
Use non-Google DNS (Unlocator, Unotelly, etc) - unnecessary for Eureka-ROM users who can specify DNS via the Eureka web panel
For reference:
Use DHCP-supplied DNS
Use Unlocator DNS service.
Use UnoTelly DNS service
Stock boot animation - switch back to the stock Chromecast boot animation when using custom firmware
rCast - use Chromecast as a standalone media player without an Internet connection (applies over Eureka-ROM, see the thread)
KyoCast (alternate whitelist) old - see below - run apps that have not been blessed by Google without being a developer.
KyoCast is being phased out and its functionality is included in Eureka-ROM. For reference only, here is the original discussion on KyoCast
How can I check what firmware build my Chromecast has if I can't connect it to the Internet?
Better instructions here.
In order to use the Chromecast app to check the build, your Chromecast just needs to be connected to your WiFi, it doesn't need Internet. So, disconnect the WAN cable on your router. If you have an integrated modem/router, disconnect the DSL or Cable signal line to it - then nothing will connect to the Internet and you can safely check your Chromecast build from the app. If you have a spare AP or router, you can set up an isolated network and connect your phone/tablet/computer and Chromecast to it for setup.
Don't forget to disconnect power on Chromecast before you reconnect the Internet!
To be extra safe, perform a Factory Reset on it by holding down the button until the LED turns red. This will clear the Chromecast settings and it will prompt to be set up again.
I had root with Eureka-ROM and now it appears I don't?
This can happen if the power is pulled or lost during an update.
You may still have the vulnerable bootloader and be able to get root back, depending on how long it has been since the attempted update.
Unplug Chromecast from power until you can re-flash the newest Eureka-ROM via OTG.
This is a good reason to use AC/wall power rather than USB on the TV, as the TV often cuts USB power when the TV is turned off.
For further details, see this post.
Also, see note about rooting newer firmware version above.
Official Apps (Questions pertaining to them, not a comprehensive list of official applications)
YouTube
Can I play live streams?
Currently you can cast some live YouTube streams on desktop Chrome browser. See here
Not at this time. See here and here too.
Can I play paid channels?
Yes. See here
Can I play 3D videos?
Yes.
HBO GO
Does it work outside of the US?
It might with a DNS service that makes it look like you're in the US (like Unlocator and UnoTelly)
See this discussion, and HBO GO confirmed working without Unotelly
Avia
Do I need to buy the paid version to use with Chromecast?
Yes.
What kind of media can I cast to Chromecast?
It needs to be in a format compatible with Chromecast.
See also What media types does Chromecast support? above.
I'm having trouble casting device-local media to Chromecast
Make sure that it's in a format compatible with Chromecast.
See if your router is listed on Google's router compatibility.
Try using BubbleUPnP or AllCast to cast, or try this workaround using BubbleUPnP as a local DLNA server for Avia to cast from.
Plex
Do I need to subscribe to PlexPass to use Plex with Chromecast?
As of March 13, 2014, no.
Can Chromecast receive 5.1 audio via Plex?
Yes. See this discussion.
Netflix
Can Chromecast play Netflix 3D content?
No.
Can I change the size of captions/subtitles?
Yes, through an unofficial mod by Kyonz.
RealPlayer Cloud
Can RealPlayer Cloud cast content stored on my phone/tablet?
Yes, . See RealPlayer Cloud now casts to Google Chromecast
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Thank you for the pin Mods.
Thanks for doing this Bhiga, I think we really needed it.
Hi have another FAQ to add:
Can Chromecast play Netflix 3D movies ?
Currently, NO.
Just my 5 cents
MopheusDG said:
Hi have another FAQ to add:
Can Chromecast play Netflix 3D movies ?
Currently, NO.
Just my 5 cents
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Doubtful it ever will either...Most TVs that support 3D have configuration steps that are required to tell it what kind of 3D it is.
And the truth is most TVs that have 3D capability already have NetFlix built into it native so why would you chromecast it at all?
Asphyx said:
Doubtful it ever will either...Most TVs that support 3D have configuration steps that are required to tell it what kind of 3D it is.
And the truth is most TVs that have 3D capability already have NetFlix built into it native so why would you chromecast it at all?
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Control from phone/tablet. The whole "use your phone/tablet as the remote" is really Chromecast's core differentiator.
bhiga said:
Control from phone/tablet. The whole "use your phone/tablet as the remote" is really Chromecast's core differentiator.
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Yes I see what your saying...But until HDMI standard includes more communication than just AV I don't see it happening anytime soon.
Something along the lines of HDMI-CEC Plus.
But it would require Two Way communication (Possible with HDMI) so the TV could send messages back through the CC to your unit.
Usually when you play a 3D file the TV asks you if it is 2D/3D and which 3D format it is SBS or HOU.
That would have to be sent to CC and forwarded to your unit which I'm sure is not possible at this point.
The 3D standard was created and so rushed that it never occurred to the engineers that this should be determined in the header of the video so this step could be skipped.The TV would see the header, Switch to the appropriate 3D format and just play!
Truth is the only reason we have 3D (SmartTVs and now 4K) is because when the entire US was forced to upgrade to HD at the same time the Manufactures realized that No one would be needing a new TV the following year...
So they came up with these Gimmicks like 3D, SmartTV and now 4K just to give you some reason to keep buying TVs! LOL
They didn't really think it out fully and the truth is there were 3D TVs before there was even the Broadcasting Equipment as far as Camera Support available to shoot the content these TVs would display! LOL
Asphyx said:
Yes I see what your saying...But until HDMI standard includes more communication than just AV I don't see it happening anytime soon.
Something along the lines of HDMI-CEC Plus.
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Yeah, if you wanted to truly unify all the remote controls... Right now, it's just the only practical reason you'd Chromecast something from Netflix to your TV rather than using the TV's built-in Netflix.
Another possible advantage to the Chromecast route would be use of a hardware keyboard if your phone/tablet has one.
But some TVs have this already built into their remotes too.
Asphyx said:
So they came up with these Gimmicks like 3D, SmartTV and now 4K just to give you some reason to keep buying TVs! LOL
They didn't really think it out fully and the truth is there were 3D TVs before there was even the Broadcasting Equipment as far as Camera Support available to shoot the content these TVs would display! LOL
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Yup, anaglyph has existed since before I was born, and I played with 3D visualization on an SGI workstation in the very early 90's.
Remember WebTV? Hehehe... Convergence took a few rounds, but it finally arrived... sort of.
Chromecast and Second screen is the next evolution. After all, Netflix invented DIAL.
Hey, those Watchman devices might come back... I have to admit, I kind of want a Galaxy Gear even though it doesn't do video.
bhiga said:
Yeah, if you wanted to truly unify all the remote controls... Right now, it's just the only practical reason you'd Chromecast something from Netflix to your TV rather than using the TV's built-in Netflix.
Another possible advantage to the Chromecast route would be use of a hardware keyboard if your phone/tablet has one.
But some TVs have this already built into their remotes too.
Yup, anaglyph has existed since before I was born, and I played with 3D visualization on an SGI workstation in the very early 90's.
Remember WebTV? Hehehe... Convergence took a few rounds, but it finally arrived... sort of.
Chromecast and Second screen is the next evolution. After all, Netflix invented DIAL.
Hey, those Watchman devices might come back... I have to admit, I kind of want a Galaxy Gear even though it doesn't do video.
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It is where I would like to see the Chromecast go at some point.which is why I would like them to add an IR emitter to the CC next.Cause it is almost as useful as a control device as it is a streamer.
Don't laugh...Not only do I remember WebTV I have a neighbor who still USES IT! I tried to get them to switch to a GoogleTV but they were not technically up to it! LOL
3D is great for content that is shot for it. But most content in 3D is shot in 2D and then converted via Software..No Wonder people get headaches watching it! LOL
But back on topic...
I think the chromecast is a great initial first step. If it does well (seems to be doing that) I believe future versions might add some of these features in time.
3d Youtube
Faq to add:
Youtube 3D support: yes
With all the fuss about 3D Netflix, I think people might not have noticed that Chromecast plays 3D Youtube videos perfectly. I can only imagine 3D Netflix will also be possible through Chromecast in the near future.
Multiple Chromcast's
I was wondering if multiple Chromcast's can be used at the same time on the same network? Only have one now but would like to use other tv's at same time. Though I would ask before buying another one.
May I suggest some additional formatting? It might be easier to search the FAQ if the questions were listed by themselves and also below with the answers, since the list has grown quite a bit and some of the answers are necessarily a bit longer. Its a little daunting when viewing on a smaller screen.
E.g.
1. Is Chromcast cool?
2. Can Chromecast be rooted?
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N. This is question N?
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1. Is Chromecast cool? Yes.
2. Can Chromecast be rooted? Yes, but check here (post link) for bla bla..
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aknisley said:
I was wondering if multiple Chromcast's can be used at the same time on the same network? Only have one now but would like to use other tv's at same time. Though I would ask before buying another one.
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Yes. I have two actively in use on my network. They will appear in a list by name when you hit the Cast button.
preusstang said:
May I suggest some additional formatting? It might be easier to search the FAQ if the questions were listed by themselves and also below with the answers, since the list has grown quite a bit and some of the answers are necessarily a bit longer. Its a little daunting when viewing on a smaller screen.
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I agree, it's daunting on small screen (and Tapatalk doesn't seem to 100% support nested bullet lists).
Normally I would put an index at the top but I haven't figured out how to add anchor links in posts (happy for someone to school me here...) so I wasn't sure whether it would add value or just increase the amount of scrolling needed.
Also considering collapsing the links into linked text rather than raw links which get truncated on display anyway.
EDIT: Cleaned up the links a lot. Will revisit the table of contents when I have more time.
LonelyHiker said:
Faq to add:
Youtube 3D support: yes
With all the fuss about 3D Netflix, I think people might not have noticed that Chromecast plays 3D Youtube videos perfectly. I can only imagine 3D Netflix will also be possible through Chromecast in the near future.
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I do agree, but youtube 3D is based on Side By Side or OU conversion, and I think Netflix 3D is really 120 hz frame by frame 3D... so the question is, is Chromcast capable of handling 120 Hz to even start thinking on Netflix 3D ?
Thanks for this FAQ, is great to see Chromecast is starting to grow.
You can use realplayer cloud to cast local media instead of paying for avia. Noticed the FAQ doesn't mention it
rooted chromecast question
If you have a rooted chromecast and a un rootable chromecast is there some way to wipe the unrootable chromecast and copy a image from your rooted chromecast onto it thus rooting the unrootable chromecast.
smitherston said:
If you have a rooted chromecast and a un rootable chromecast is there some way to wipe the unrootable chromecast and copy a image from your rooted chromecast onto it thus rooting the unrootable chromecast.
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Not that I know of. The bootloader is write-protected and requires a specific unlock to well, unlock.
I guess maybe if you had mad electronics skills, an EEPROM programmer, and enough time, but that seems a lot of work for a $35 device, and this is coming from someone who added an HDMI-Component converter and downscaler to get Chromecast working on a standard definition TV.
Any idea if mirrroring will be supported ever?
Hi, my rooted and hacked CC works fine with all the official apps, Netflix, Avia and Gallery.
The problem is that whenever I try to play a file from my local network, using any File Manager to open the file in Avia, the CC says it is not compatible and never play. On the other hand, if you create a DLNA / Media Sharing service, then the same files can be played without error messages.
I did not want to use Media Sharing, I prefer access to the network drive directly. Why CC makes such a difference between the way it accesses files. My Media Sharing is not transcoding anything for the CC. It should be the same, or they are just avoiding the local media player options ?!
Anyone have a clue ?
Thanks,
MCP
Have you installed the latest and greatest eureka 2.0?
mcpdigital said:
Hi, my rooted and hacked CC works fine with all the official apps, Netflix, Avia and Gallery.
The problem is that whenever I try to play a file from my local network, using any File Manager to open the file in Avia, the CC says it is not compatible and never play. On the other hand, if you create a DLNA / Media Sharing service, then the same files can be played without error messages.
I did not want to use Media Sharing, I prefer access to the network drive directly. Why CC makes such a difference between the way it accesses files. My Media Sharing is not transcoding anything for the CC. It should be the same, or they are just avoiding the local media player options ?!
Anyone have a clue ?
Thanks,
MCP
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It depends how the network file location is sent.
If the network file is downloaded to the local device and casted as a local file, it should work.
If the network file is sent as a UNC path it likely won't work.
Try copying the file to local storage and verify it can be casted as a local file first.
bhiga said:
It depends how the network file location is sent.
If the network file is downloaded to the local device and casted as a local file, it should work.
If the network file is sent as a UNC path it likely won't work.
Try copying the file to local storage and verify it can be casted as a local file first.
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I'm waiting for the Eureka team OTA, but I believe the problem will persist after the upgrade.
This is what happens:
Case 1
Open a File Explorer
Open the network share
Choose the file (4GB mkv) and play with Avia
Cast it to CC
CC message says it is not compatible
Case 2
Start media sharing in the computer that owns the file to be played
Start Avia and open the file using Add Media and choosing the Media Sharing PC and the file (4GB mkv) to be played
Cast to CC
CC plays the same file without errors
I really do not get why CC choose not to play as if it was a local file. How are people doing with NAS, are they starting a DLNA or Media sharing inside the NAS to have access to the movies.
Thanks
MCP
mcpdigital said:
This is what happens:
Case 1
Open a File Explorer
Open the network share
Choose the file (4GB mkv) and play with Avia
Cast it to CC
CC message says it is not compatible
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I really do not get why CC choose not to play as if it was a local file. How are people doing with NAS, are they starting a DLNA or Media sharing inside the NAS to have access to the movies.
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Avia doesn't know how to unwrap MKV, nor does Chromecast.
So that's why it won't play it as a file.
Your DLNA server is either doing transcoding or is unwrapping the compatible data inside the MKV.
Sent from a device with no keyboard. Please forgive typos, they may not be my own.
bhiga said:
Avia doesn't know how to unwrap MKV, nor does Chromecast.
So that's why it won't play it as a file.
Your DLNA server is either doing transcoding or is unwrapping the compatible data inside the MKV.
Sent from a device with no keyboard. Please forgive typos, they may not be my own.
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Ok, I got it. The experience playing Local or Network files is sub-par with the ChromeCast. Avia can play almost all of them, but not cast, DLNA or Local it happens anyway. Today the chromecast is like a Netflix player for me, the rest is not ready for prime time.
I wish I could have the OTA today otherwise I will not be able to check until next weekend. My cable is with a friend so no update for me.
Until now, none of my 3 CC has gotten the update. They are on 24x7 on, but it seems I'm on the last batch.
MCP
mcpdigital said:
Ok, I got it. The experience playing Local or Network files is sub-par with the ChromeCast. Avia can play almost all of them, but not cast, DLNA or Local it happens anyway. Today the chromecast is like a Netflix player for me, the rest is not ready for prime time.
I wish I could have the OTA today otherwise I will not be able to check until next weekend. My cable is with a friend so no update for me.
Until now, none of my 3 CC has gotten the update. They are on 24x7 on, but it seems I'm on the last batch.
MCP
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Local file playback is still developing. Chromecast was designed as an Internet streamer that is controlled by a mobile device.
We didn't have local playback at launch and it probably want in the minds of many until Koush released the first AllCast beta that subsequently broke due to whitelisting and SDK changes.
Any content outside those with apps made for it relies on intelligence in the app side. It's more attainable to make media compatible with Chromecast (ie Plex, RealPlayer Cloud) than to make Chromecast compatible with all media, as there are hundreds of CODECs. I still have some stuff that makes MX Player say ??? heh.
Sent from a device with no keyboard. Please forgive typos, they may not be my own.
bhiga said:
Local file playback is still developing. Chromecast was designed as an Internet streamer that is controlled by a mobile device.
We didn't have local playback at launch and it probably want in the minds of many until Koush released the first AllCast beta that subsequently broke due to whitelisting and SDK changes.
Any content outside those with apps made for it relies on intelligence in the app side. It's more attainable to make media compatible with Chromecast (ie Plex, RealPlayer Cloud) than to make Chromecast compatible with all media, as there are hundreds of CODECs. I still have some stuff that makes MX Player say ??? heh.
Sent from a device with no keyboard. Please forgive typos, they may not be my own.
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Bhiga, thanks for taking time to answer. I understand the purpose of ChromeCast as an internet streaming (Netflix box), but after the launch of Avia and AllCast I really had hope to be able to do Local casting. CC bring some Smart to your non-smart TV, this is the main and only benefit IMHO.
With the latest updates, even Avia is not playing most of my files, and there is no clue of what is happening other than a Black screen in the phone. This is definitely Avias fault not CC. Allcast is not any better after all, most of the things just do not play. Even some of my phones mkv files are not playable.
If there wasn't Eureka, you can be sure my CCs would be gone. I'm patiently waiting for some real change that is looking unreal as the time goes by. I'm back using my BD player and PS3 to play local media and these CCs destination will be the drawer.
Beautiful image and pretty good processing, nice idea but stuck with the American Media providers and its insane agreements that make the device useless or at least just another stream player with many limitations. Sure, for 35 bucks it is ok, but cannot replace any of my other devices.
If you feel I'm bored, that is the correct vision. Tired of spending time trying to play something that matters to me. Tried converting to mp4 with AAC using Handbrake or ffmpeg and it does not help much, the same MKV file converted to MP4 does not work either.
My TVs play all the mkv files straight from the Hard disk without problem, my BD player do it as well, and finally my old energy consumer PS3 play the files after a small tsmuxer change. Chromecast does not add up, other than the size and the idea.
There is no sense in adding a Media Server like Plex, I already have better Dlna solutions for years and I hate all of them just because you need to have a server using lots of CPUs, heat and energy. My next and latest step is to mount a small AMD APU accelerated box and play whatever I want using XBMC Linux or simply play LOCAL files in stored in a cheap 4TB drive. It is cheaper than the time I spend trying to use CC with no success.
MCP
mcpdigital said:
Beautiful image and pretty good processing, nice idea but stuck with the American Media providers and its insane agreements that make the device useless or at least just another stream player with many limitations. Sure, for 35 bucks it is ok, but cannot replace any of my other devices.
If you feel I'm bored, that is the correct vision. Tired of spending time trying to play something that matters to me. Tried converting to mp4 with AAC using Handbrake or ffmpeg and it does not help much, the same MKV file converted to MP4 does not work either.
My TVs play all the mkv files straight from the Hard disk without problem, my BD player do it as well, and finally my old energy consumer PS3 play the files after a small tsmuxer change. Chromecast does not add up, other than the size and the idea.
There is no sense in adding a Media Server like Plex, I already have better Dlna solutions for years and I hate all of them just because you need to have a server using lots of CPUs, heat and energy. My next and latest step is to mount a small AMD APU accelerated box and play whatever I want using XBMC Linux or simply play LOCAL files in stored in a cheap 4TB drive. It is cheaper than the time I spend trying to use CC with no success.
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Definitely sounds like you're encountering multiple issues, the Avia one is likely just a bug similar to the one I was experiencing.
I've been thinking more, and I think part of the disparity and disappointment lies in Chromecast as a standalone device, rather than Chromecast as a complement to another device. At least in its current state, it's more like an adapter - it works in specific scenarios, for apps that support it. The majority of the "work" is in the app that's connecting to Chromecast. And the selection of apps is still growing.
At $35 it's either a very cheap device, or a mid-range adapter.
Well I have had a Chromecast for some time now. I have been lurking for some time now but can't quite figure out what is the best solution for me.
Here is what I am looking to do.. I have quite a few workout dvd's that the Wife and I use, Yoga and the such. I want to eliminate the need to use the dvd player... my goal is to have everything ripped to my desktop, then use my phone to control what is displayed on the chromecast? especially since i have multiple chromecasts.....I just can't figure out what combination of apps I need to accomplish it... I have used ALLCast but the video will mess up during streaming... (Galaxy S3)
I am assuming I need some sort of media server service running on my desktop..(Plex?)
Any thoughts or suggestions would be great!
cdrshm
Rip the DVDs to MP4 files on your computer using some video tool like Handbrake. Enable the DLNA server function in Windows if you haven't already, and add your video folder as one of the shared media folders. Install BubbleUPnP on your Android phone. Select your computer as the source, Chromecast as the destination. Select your desired video and cast it to the Chromecast, controlling it with BubbleUPnP.
Plex is certainly an alternative, but you would have to install and set up Plex Media Server on your computer, and currently you have to pay $4/month for Plex Pass to use Plex with the Chromecast. For what you want to do the above combination is simpler and free.
@DJames1 hit it on the head.
Since I have multiple players, I'm waiting for My Movies to release Chromecast support, but I suspect it might be a while...
DJames1 said:
Rip the DVDs to MP4 files on your computer using some video tool like Handbrake. Enable the DLNA server function in Windows if you haven't already, and add your video folder as one of the shared media folders. Install BubbleUPnP on your Android phone. Select your computer as the source, Chromecast as the destination. Select your desired video and cast it to the Chromecast, controlling it with BubbleUPnP.
Plex is certainly an alternative, but you would have to install and set up Plex Media Server on your computer, and currently you have to pay $4/month for Plex Pass to use Plex with the Chromecast. For what you want to do the above combination is simpler and free.
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WOW! This works perfect! Thanks for helping me out! It works better than expected!!
Thanks Again!!
cdrshm
+1 to DJ!
Only thing I would quibble with is I'm not sure the Windows Media DLNA is a very good option but it is free and requires no installation.
Bubble requires SOME DLNA server since it does not have this function built in yet and instead aggregates media from other sources.
Something I suspect Bubble will soon add to it's arsenal!
You can also browse files in the chrome browser, such as your movie folder. And simply cast from that. Works instantly, easily, casts in the same quality the file is in, and requires no additional software or set up.
For instance, my data drive is F, I just browse to file:///F:/ on chrome, select my movies folder and start the video then cast from the browser.
^^ That's tab-casting. While it works as long as your computer is fast enough, it has several issues compared to the recommended solution:
1. It puts a heavier workload on your PC due to Google's rather inefficient tab-casting code.
2. Even with a high-performance PC, the video tends to stutter a little when tab-casting.
3. It has to be controlled from the PC. The OP said that he has an Android phone he wants to use as the controller.
If the OP were interested in trying streaming from Chrome, he would be better off to use the newly-renamed Videostream extension for Chrome mentioned in another thread here. It offers much smoother performance than tab-casting.
I use serviio on my computer and Avia on my devices. Works great.
I use Logitech Media Server with avia and it works perfectly...
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^^ Also good solutions, but Avia isn't quite free, and they would require the OP to install a new media server on his PC.
Any good solution for mac os?
2fastkuztoms said:
Any good solution for mac os?
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Plex is probably the easiest option but it currently requires PlexPass subscription as it's still getting the kinks worked out.
Sent from a device with no keyboard. Please forgive typos, they may not be my own.
You could use any DLNA server that runs on Mac along with BubbleUPnP as the controller on Android. I would probably choose Serviio.
Asphyx said:
+1 to DJ!
Only thing I would quibble with is I'm not sure the Windows Media DLNA is a very good option but it is free and requires no installation.
Bubble requires SOME DLNA server since it does not have this function built in yet and instead aggregates media from other sources.
Something I suspect Bubble will soon add to it's arsenal!
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Agreed Windows Media Server sucks. Install the free BubbleUPnP Server side app on your PC. Pay for the pro license of BubbleUPnP on Android and not only can you stream your PC media to Chromecast but you can stream through your PS3 and you can remotely watch all of your videos on your Android device or anyone else's media server in the world
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hey guys,
basically ive noticed that when im stream a video from my nexus 5 to my chromecast the video streams straight to the chromecast rather than stream to the nexus and then to the chromecast. In the same way that when you use the youtube app it casts directly. My question is, is there any way to have this arrangement from my mac/PC.
the website in question is a popular movie stream site.
cheers in advance
Long story short, when apps are developed for the Chromecast, a virtual webpage with the video stream is opened in the Chromecast and then the video is streamed directly into it. Simple, right?
However, when a video appears on your screen in a site not optimized for the Chromecast, the Google Chrome extension must copy the contents of your tab (that are receiving a streamed video already) into a new stream that is sent to your Chromecast with your pc as a server. This is why it's slow as dirt.
There really is no easy solution, besides
1) writing it yourself (possible but improbable and unfeasible)
2) begging the website developers to do it (and if the site is illegal, Google Corporation can censor the app or site anyway),
3) downloading the movie beforehand and use something like Plex, or
4) purchasing a video streaming service made by a corporation that has made agreements with Google Corporation and is Chromecast compatible, like Netflix or... Netflix.
I opt for ripping my DVDs, converting them to movie files with Handbrake, putting them on my laptop Plex server, and casting them from there. But that's just me.
primetechv2 said:
Long story short, when apps are developed for the Chromecast, a virtual webpage with the video stream is opened in the Chromecast and then the video is streamed directly into it. Simple, right?
However, when a video appears on your screen in a site not optimized for the Chromecast, the Google Chrome extension must copy the contents of your tab (that are receiving a streamed video already) into a new stream that is sent to your Chromecast with your pc as a server. This is why it's slow as dirt.
There really is no easy solution, besides
1) writing it yourself (possible but improbable and unfeasible)
2) begging the website developers to do it (and if the site is illegal, Google Corporation can censor the app or site anyway),
3) downloading the movie beforehand and use something like Plex, or
4) purchasing a video streaming service made by a corporation that has made agreements with Google Corporation and is Chromecast compatible, like Netflix or... Netflix.
I opt for ripping my DVDs, converting them to movie files with Handbrake, putting them on my laptop Plex server, and casting them from there. But that's just me.
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Hey primetechv2,
Please excuse my ignorance but I don't understand how can an android app like 'web video caster' can take a normal html page (not optimized for mobiles), find an embedded video and send it to Chromecast to play it directly on Chromecast. Using the same logic, a' browser app' could be designed for PCs which finds the embedded video link in a html page. The video link is then sent to the chromecast (via chrome browser if thats the only way) and a virtual page is opened in the chromecast (as you mentioned in case of mobile apps) and video is played on your chromecast. Please note that we don't want our computer to be used as a server to stream the video to Chromecast. Instead just a link to the video is extracted and is sent to the chromecast.
Am I missing something obvious here?
I don't have a perfect answer because I've never developed media apps for the Chromecast in Android, but it has something to do with the difference between writing an app that runs in Android versus one that runs on Chrome.
On Android, apps have direct access to files on your phone. They can read the files and transfer the data across a network to any device, such as a Chromecast, via a simple API.
On Chrome, for obvious security reasons no random webpage can just hijack your local filesystem. There's a chance that if media was loaded, it could be streamed via a socket or some advanced Javascript magic, but I've never seen any app that does this.
Often, apps will leverage the ability of a PC to behave as a web server, where files CAN be accessed on request and then sent to webpages. Unfortunately, Google Cast restricts Receiver pages being displayed on their hardware unless they're on a rather limited whitelist, so only domains that hvev registered with Google (e.g. http://plex.tv) can have a receiver page displayed on your Cast.
That's sorta the explanation for why apps like BubbleUPNP "hijack" Windows as a media server and as a transcoder.. As long as Android can pull transcoded media back, or perhaps allow access to the transcoded media via the Internet on a registered webpage, I've never set one up, so that's all conjecture. But I'm pretty darn sure a PC has a lot more processing power than an Android device. And when you want to send unsupported-on-the-Chromecast media from a phone to the Cast, you have to manage both the transcoding AND the streaming.
enmbs said:
Hey primetechv2,
Please excuse my ignorance but I don't understand how can an android app like 'web video caster' can take a normal html page (not optimized for mobiles), find an embedded video and send it to Chromecast to play it directly on Chromecast. Using the same logic, a' browser app' could be designed for PCs which finds the embedded video link in a html page. The video link is then sent to the chromecast (via chrome browser if thats the only way) and a virtual page is opened in the chromecast (as you mentioned in case of mobile apps) and video is played on your chromecast. Please note that we don't want our computer to be used as a server to stream the video to Chromecast. Instead just a link to the video is extracted and is sent to the chromecast.
Am I missing something obvious here?
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It can do it only because the App or Site is written to support the CCast specifically where many other sites are not.
So lets cite examples of what I mean....
Web Video Caster is a CCast app that has a Player/receiver the CCast loads that can accept links from the app to display on the unit.
In the case of Websites the Embedded Player they use to play the Video has this support built in.
ESPN uses JWPlayer Pro for their site videos which has CCast support built in. JW Player has it's own Player/Receiver that gets loaded into the CCast to facilitate this.
You Tube has it's own receiver actually ON the CCast that also is similar to the JW Payer.
I believe both require the Browser you are using to be CCast aware using either an extension like GoogleCast for Chrome to let the site know to display the CCast icon. (I may be mistaken but I believe Firefox now has this capability built into the browser)
So it really is a combination of the player the site uses and the Browser that determines if CCast Support is enabled.
But in the end ANYTHING that is sent to a CCast DIRECTLY has to have a corresponding Player/Receiver app written for the CCast to send the linkage to.
It will take some time but I suspect in the future, Most of not ALL embedded players used by Websites will add this functionality in time.
Which is really all about the drive to become HTML5 compatible as much as any desire to support the CCast.
Asphyx said:
It can do it only because the App or Site is written to support the CCast specifically where many other sites are not.
So lets cite examples of what I mean....
Web Video Caster is a CCast app that has a Player/receiver the CCast loads that can accept links from the app to display on the unit.
In the case of Websites the Embedded Player they use to play the Video has this support built in.
ESPN uses JWPlayer Pro for their site videos which has CCast support built in. JW Player has it's own Player/Receiver that gets loaded into the CCast to facilitate this.
You Tube has it's own receiver actually ON the CCast that also is similar to the JW Payer.
I believe both require the Browser you are using to be CCast aware using either an extension like GoogleCast for Chrome to let the site know to display the CCast icon. (I may be mistaken but I believe Firefox now has this capability built into the browser)
So it really is a combination of the player the site uses and the Browser that determines if CCast Support is enabled.
But in the end ANYTHING that is sent to a CCast DIRECTLY has to have a corresponding Player/Receiver app written for the CCast to send the linkage to.
It will take some time but I suspect in the future, Most of not ALL embedded players used by Websites will add this functionality in time.
Which is really all about the drive to become HTML5 compatible as much as any desire to support the CCast.
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Thanks Asphyx, It makes sense now :good:.