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keep my Bionic or return it for the Samsung Galaxy Nexus?
it looks like an awesome phone but without the SD card I'm not sure if you can root it and install a custom ROM.
does anyone know if you can, or how good of a development community past phones like this have had.
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yes you should
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yes you should
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My established bias against Samsung mobile products, in combination with the lack of an SD card slot or HDMI output, lead me to say "meh".
I do like me some vanilla Android, but the probability is high that the Bionic will have AOSP-flavored ICS by the middle of next year, while the Nexus... will still have a Samsung radio baseband.
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My established bias against Samsung mobile products, in combination with the lack of an SD card slot or HDMI output, lead me to say "meh".
I do like me some vanilla Android, but the probability is high that the Bionic will have AOSP-flavored ICS by the middle of next year, while the Nexus... will still have a Samsung radio baseband.
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You know what. I like you. I completely agree.
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I'm happier with my Bionic than I expected to be after yesterday. Given that right now, the Bionic is still the only phone out there with 48 (possible) GB of space and an extended battery, the bionic is still holding its own
what bias do you have against Samsung? talk me out of wanting this phone lol. can you instal a rom on a phone without an SD card?
also if you look at the pic of the galaxy nexus with the battery cover off the top right looks like an SD slot. but the specs don't say it.
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Keep the bionic it'll have ICS soon enough and you can flash custom roms without the sd card.
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also if you look at the pic of the galaxy nexus with the battery cover off the top right looks like an SD slot. but the specs don't say it.
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That's the SIM card slot. You don't need an SD card to install a custom ROM. But you do need one to keep your application backups in a safe place. An SD card gives you a lot of flexibility for moving multimedia on/off your phone. Could I live without it...yeah, there are plenty of work arounds. Would I want to live without it, no.
I think it comes down to how you want to use the phone. Personally I like the docks available for the Bionic. I have the car dock and the HD dock and they were some of the reasons I waited to get the Bionic over the Tbolt....and I really really like HTC.
What matters most to you when when you're looking at a phone? Screen size, color saturation, thinness, battery life? Make a list of those factors, then objectively rank each phone on those factors, tally up the score and voila, you've figured out which phone is best for you.
The bootloader in the nexus is unlocked already
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what bias do you have against Samsung? talk me out of wanting this phone lol. can you instal a rom on a phone without an SD card?
also if you look at the pic of the galaxy nexus with the battery cover off the top right looks like an SD slot. but the specs don't say it.
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In total, over the past year, I have used seven Galaxy S based phones, including a Captivate, two Fascinates, and four Droid Charges. I experienced:
Numerous and persistent issues with their radio software on every single phone, to the point where I would be missing texts and calls on a regular basis. Plus, the signal quality never matched phones I had with Qualcomm basebands, and the Charge in particular would lose 4g data (or data altogether) on an alarmingly regular basis. GPS issues that persisted on every phone- the Charge, as a whole, was the best, but it still took 30 seconds to lock with quarter-mile inaccuracies at times- compared to the Bionic or my old Incredible with 3-second pinpoint locks.
The other issue is with their customizations of Android, which are almost always unpolished and rushed. This won't be an issue on a Google Experience phone, but the radio issues alone are enough to put me off of buying Samsungs until they figure out they should be buying their basebands from Qualcomm like everyone else.
I'll wait for the Anandtech review and some in depth specs about who actually makes the hardware to make a final decision- there's a possibility that they are really doing things right with this phone- but I will take a lot of convincing.
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Numerous and persistent issues with their radio software on every single phone, to the point where I would be missing texts and calls on a regular basis. Plus, the signal quality never matched phones I had with Qualcomm basebands, and the Charge in particular would lose 4g data (or data altogether) on an alarmingly regular basis
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My Charge had these issues as well, as does my brother's, and my best friend's, and almost anyone I sell a Samsung phone to (I work in retail). I am a bit concerned with Samsung's baseband capabilities, but iirc with the Nexus series, the hardware is all Samsung and the software is all Google. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's always been my impression.
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what bias do you have against Samsung? talk me out of wanting this phone lol. can you instal a rom on a phone without an SD card?
also if you look at the pic of the galaxy nexus with the battery cover off the top right looks like an SD slot. but the specs don't say it.
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My bias is the same as the previous comments, Samsung and LG have horrible radios, Motorola has the best. The galaxy nexus isn't enough to get me to consider another pos Samsung phone, but if that note comes to Verizon I'd be tempted by that 5.3" screen.
Your asking if you should get a galaxy nexus or bionic. In a bionic forum? I have a bionic. But the nexus is a superior phone. HD AMOLED, bigger screen
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I'm considering getting the nexus and selling my bionic. With this huge launch of a phone I'm sure they worked out a lot of kinks and fixed their radio issues
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I'm considering getting the nexus and selling my bionic. With this huge launch of a phone I'm sure they worked out a lot of kinks and fixed their radio issues
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I loled. Samsung makes sexy looking products for sure! If they work like they're supposed to , that's a different story. Also no external SD card = fail. Srsly ppl main thing this phone has over the bionic is just ICS. 200 mhz oh noes! HD super amoled 1280 x 720 yes it's a beautiful screen. But if I want to ohh ahh at graphics i'll watch **** on my 2 x 30 inch monitor setup at home . Lagfree camera cause I totally need to snap picture after picture on my phone 8). I'm sure the bionic can do it with the proper software derp. Ah Android always making people rage at their current device cause of minor hardware bumps. Hopefully ICS will set things right and fix what's really problematic, the software!
Display is garbage gen 1 just like I said.
http://tinyurl.com/3e59ffz
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Display is garbage gen 1 just like I said.
http://tinyurl.com/3e59ffz
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Wrong article G, but I know what you're talking about. The "minus" one?
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I'm considering getting the nexus and selling my bionic. With this huge launch of a phone I'm sure they worked out a lot of kinks and fixed their radio issues
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Seriously??!! Why would you think that?
Based on every other smart phone I have dealt with at launch, the end users are typically beta testers.
Just wait; I predict that there will be plenty of Nexus issues for all.
RMD
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I'm considering getting the nexus and selling my bionic. With this huge launch of a phone I'm sure they worked out a lot of kinks and fixed their radio issues
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They never work out all the kinks. Thats why we have a development community. They usually work more kinks out than the manufacturers.
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Post what you reckon would be awesome, what should not be included, what should be kept or discontinued...
i guess ill start
I think that all wires, micro USB or anything (accept, for now, headphones) should be cut (see what I did there??) , we should have wireless charging/NFC mats instead.
What'd be cool too would be a built in version in laptops.
Also, I'd like to see phones having an option to purchase a nexus version instead, though I doubt this will happen.
Aluminum unibody construction. HTC was so close to getting it perfect on the legend then nothing.
Standard wireless charging for all the phones like charging for Nokia Lumia 920
Better plug-n-play type integration with other devices.
I'd like to be able to set my phone down on a charge/nfc mat connected to my home theater system and have it be able to pay music or video through my home theater system, then do the same in my car, or to my computer and have it sync/backup.
Its sound quality should be given a thought...
And about gaming...
All phones should be given equal hardware
Omg, sq, yes! I miss Voodoo Sound I had on my Vibrant.
Larger batteries in smaller phones, sturdy construction with premium materials, and a minimum spec sheet all manufacturers must abide by in order to provide a relatively consistent Android experience. By far the biggest thing I want to see is an inclusion of choice in regards to the interface. Either the OEM's skin or stock of whatever version is on the phone. I don't think that's asking for much, and the latter would really go hand in hand with the consistent thing...
Google "Nokia Morph"
I would love to see the built in ability to be able to move game/app data to external memery cards and still work on ALL games and apps
I mean yes there is a method to do this with directory bind, but its not always perfect.
Am i the only one who thinks this is a must?
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Larger built in memory like 128 GB
Retinal or near retinal quality displays
Better speakers
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Retinal or near retinal quality displays
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A little late on that one. Anything over 300ppi is near retina (oh god how I hate that stupid term).
Someone over on The Verge proposed an awesome idea for hardware. Instead if having a notification light, have a band that tuns around the edge of the phone (similar to the chrome bezel on the nexus 4) that lights up instead. Something like the Nexus Q, but on a phone. That, IMO, would be awesome.
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Someone over on The Verge proposed an awesome idea for hardware. Instead if having a notification light, have a band that tuns around the edge of the phone (similar to the chrome bezel on the nexus 4) that lights up instead. Something like the Nexus Q, but on a phone. That, IMO, would be awesome.
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That's a cool idea. But a waste of battery? And it would be obvious to everyone that you have a notification.
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kcls said:
Someone over on The Verge proposed an awesome idea for hardware. Instead if having a notification light, have a band that tuns around the edge of the phone (similar to the chrome bezel on the nexus 4) that lights up instead. Something like the Nexus Q, but on a phone. That, IMO, would be awesome.
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If the notification led is in the band wrapped around the phone you wouldn't be able to see it with a case on it.
Bigger screens, more RAM, faster/ better processor.
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Bigger screens, more RAM, faster/ better processor.
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Oh you mean the same stuff they come out with every year?
Here's a crazy one. HVD based storage. The pioneers of the tech are fitting 6tb on a disk no larger than a regular dvd. I imagine they could fit at least 1tb on a disc small enough to fit in a 4.6-5" phone.
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That's a cool idea. But a waste of battery? And it would be obvious to everyone that you have a notification.
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Yeah I thought about battery too, but leds take up next to no power.
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If the notification led is in the band wrapped around the phone you wouldn't be able to see it with a case on it.
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That is a very good point, big design flaw there.
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So I just picked up a moto x from AT&T and I'm just curious what the realistic expectations for the development community on this phone are.
I'm coming from the DNA which had a decent following but from reading through the forums so far it's hard to tell what I could expect for the moto x.
Ideas?
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So I just picked up a moto x from AT&T and I'm just curious what the realistic expectations for the development community on this phone are.
I'm coming from the DNA which had a decent following but from reading through the forums so far it's hard to tell what I could expect for the moto x.
Ideas?
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So far the consensus is: Probably not much developer support, but no one really seems to think the device needs it. Its stock google except for touchless control and active notification, both of which are stellar features.
edit - there are rumors that cyanogenmod is working on a port though
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So far the consensus is: Probably not much developer support, but no one really seems to think the device needs it. Its stock google except for touchless control and active notification, both of which are stellar features.
edit - there are rumors that cyanogenmod is working on a port though
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I have to agree. It looks like the development won't be here because of the specs. It's a shame too because I love this phone and was hoping that a good dev community would get on board. But so far that doesn't look like it is going to happen.
This phone has only been out for a month, the DE version has only been out for a couple of weeks, so wait be patient and we will have custom roms
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Also agree...i dont think there will be any development for ATT version because of locked BL.
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I'm guessing once they drop the price $100 it could get more popular. The fact its on every carrier I think helps. But the locked boot loader on the two biggest us carriers doesn't
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I asked bmc08gt about aokp and this is what I got.
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I'm not sure its due to the "specs", given that they are pretty cutting edge.
I think its more that the time is not worth the RoI
I'm very happy with where the phone is but knowing myself that only usually lasts a month or two.
Was just curious what everyone thought, thanks for the input.
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It would really suck if there isn't much development. Don't know if I could own an android phone without flashing custom roms.
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It would really suck if there isn't much development. Don't know if I could own an android phone without flashing custom roms.
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The only point to flash a custom ROM is to improve on the crappy stock. The moto x is almost perfect. Unless the developer really puts a lot of thought into a ROM for us I'd be willing to bet we'd FUBAR something up when it comes to features. I'd just like a little bit more customization options. Other than that, this phone is as solid as they come.
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The only point to flash a custom ROM is to improve on the crappy stock. The moto x is almost perfect. Unless the developer really puts a lot of thought into a ROM for us I'd be willing to bet we'd FUBAR something up when it comes to features. I'd just like a little bit more customization options. Other than that, this phone is as solid as they come.
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I agree but I do like to customize quite a bit and I hope more customization options come to us. I'd also like a cm rom, an aokp, a paranoid, and a pac man. I'd be quite happy if I saw those represented here!
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I agree but I do like to customize quite a bit and I hope more customization options come to us. I'd also like a cm rom, an aokp, a paranoid, and a pac man. I'd be quite happy if I saw those represented here!
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Well then. I'm with ya there. While we're putting in requests, I want a way to downgrade from the latest upgrade, an unlocked BL, and a money tree. I only see the last one happening with how well Moto locks their stuff down.
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I think this might be the first phone where I don't think I need root or an unlocked bootloader. Now whether or not I want those options is another story.
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I think this might be the first phone where I don't think I need root or an unlocked bootloader. Now whether or not I want those options is another story.
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I'm with you, with this phone I can easily see myself staying stock without complaint. Even though there is a root solution, I still passed because the phone worked so well as is.
But I would love to see what developers could do with this phone, but lack of development is not a deal breaker... Can't say that for any other phone I have owned to date. Every other phone, I have rooted and ceaselessly flashed Roms trying to find the "perfect" setup. With the moto x, I powered it on and have been happy ever since. I'm even using the stock keyboard and messenger app... Don't think I've used those since my first android device.
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I can't handle being on a stock AOSP ROM coming from a Neuxs. I hoping we see a Slim Bean type of ROM for the X with all the Moto features included in it. *fingers crossed*
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I'm not sure its due to the "specs", given that they are pretty cutting edge.
I think its more that the time is not worth the RoI
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"Cutting edge"? It has a dualcore processor and a 720p screen. It really isn't cutting edge at all.
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I can't handle being on a stock AOSP ROM coming from a Neuxs. I hoping we see a Slim Bean type of ROM for the X with all the Moto features included in it. *fingers crossed*
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That won't happen because slim is built off of AOSP and the Motorola features are not in AOSP.
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"Cutting edge"? It has a dualcore processor and a 720p screen. It really isn't cutting edge at all.
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Actually, the number of cores and resolution mean nothing in terms of "cutting edge". You can throw spec sheets all you want, but real world 720p vs 1080p is a **** measuring contest. we're talking about a 5 inch device here, pixel density to the naked eye for the average person maxes out at like 280ppi, you cant see individual pixels in the moto x, just like you couldnt see them in the galaxy nexus or the s3/s4. That being said, the moto X has a full RBG pixel sublayout, which is lacking in nearly every other display on the market - Furthermore, it uses significantly less power than other displays on the market. (http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyol...ive-than-the-new-iphone-researchers-think-so/)
as for the processor. I'm going to give you an analogy to the PC market. AMD produces high core CPU's (6 and 8) which are far less innovative or cutting edge than intels quad core CPU's. Poopx8 is still poop. The dual core chips in the moto X are Krait 300 chips paired with an Adreno 320. This is the same snapdragon 600 that you find in the nexus 7 2013 and the s4/HTC one. In graphics benchmarks, the moto X wins even on 1080p (offscreen) tests, and side by side tests show the moto x preforming faster in apps than both the s4 and the htc one. So regardless of the paper specs, it is on par with those phones, which is who it is targeted against at I might add. (http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Moto-X-review.003.png)
Then you add in the Sensor chip and the NLP chip, and stacked battery and you have a device that outperforms all of its peers, gets better battery life, and offers more always on features than all of its peers. You don't think that is cutting edge because it is a "dual core"? Marketing has gotten to your brain =x
EDIT - To be clear, I know the snapdragon 800 is the new bad boy on the block, but I argue that a change in the way people use their phone in a positive manner is more innovative than a linear bump in specs. Besides, the X came out before them and is a platform launch device.
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Actually, the number of cores and resolution mean nothing in terms of "cutting edge". You can throw spec sheets all you want, but real world 720p vs 1080p is a **** measuring contest. we're talking about a 5 inch device here, pixel density to the naked eye for the average person maxes out at like 280ppi, you cant see individual pixels in the moto x, just like you couldnt see them in the galaxy nexus or the s3/s4. That being said, the moto X has a full RBG pixel sublayout, which is lacking in nearly every other display on the market - Furthermore, it uses significantly less power than other displays on the market. (http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyol...ive-than-the-new-iphone-researchers-think-so/)
as for the processor. I'm going to give you an analogy to the PC market. AMD produces high core CPU's (6 and 8) which are far less innovative or cutting edge than intels quad core CPU's. Poopx8 is still poop. The dual core chips in the moto X are Krait 300 chips paired with an Adreno 320. This is the same snapdragon 600 that you find in the nexus 7 2013 and the s4/HTC one. In graphics benchmarks, the moto X wins even on 1080p (offscreen) tests, and side by side tests show the moto x preforming faster in apps than both the s4 and the htc one. So regardless of the paper specs, it is on par with those phones, which is who it is targeted against at I might add. (http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Moto-X-review.003.png)
Then you add in the Sensor chip and the NLP chip, and stacked battery and you have a device that outperforms all of its peers, gets better battery life, and offers more always on features than all of its peers. You don't think that is cutting edge because it is a "dual core"? Marketing has gotten to your brain =x
EDIT - To be clear, I know the snapdragon 800 is the new bad boy on the block, but I argue that a change in the way people use their phone in a positive manner is more innovative than a linear bump in specs. Besides, the X came out before them and is a platform launch device.
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Seriously! Cutting edge isn't always about numbers and theoretical performance. We live in a day where we have reached a soft cap in how raw "power" can be utilized...
Innovation and advance isn't about making something load an app 3 milliseconds faster, but rather, change how we interact with that technology on a daily basis... This phone has met the new demand for innovation, it has clearly changed the landscape of user/device interaction... Not to mention, that it is as fast and has the battery life of any of the "power house" phones on the market...
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Would you switch when N5 comes out?
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Would you switch when N5 comes out?
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You can ask this question about any new device that comes out. Would you upgrade from your current phone to a newer phone? And my answer is that if your current phone does everything you need it to, then there's no point in upgrading.
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If there was no point. Then no one ever would. Most phones now a days do everything one needs it's about want when upgrading
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Would you switch when N5 comes out?
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N5 pros over MotoX
- colourful LED notifications
- strong dev community
- processor
Moto X pros over N5
- everything else
So unless those few things bother you, just stick with the Moto X
If the Nexus 5 releases with a larger battery option I will be all over it.
If it has the same size battery as the moto x I will not be picking it up.
This phone has me absolutely addicted to all day battery life.
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N5 probably won't be on Verizon at the $400 price point. But I would be all over it on a gsm carrier.
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I'm getting the N5 the moment it's out. That doesn't mean I'm switching though. The Moto X will likely remain my primary phone. I just like wasting my money on things I don't need.
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I'm getting the N5 the moment it's out. That doesn't mean I'm switching though. The Moto X will likely remain my primary phone. I just like wasting my money on things I don't need.
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And I thought I was the only one that did that. LoL
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I was stuck between these two but this no long delay and the amazing reviews of the moto x by everyone has made me lean heavily this direction now to decide between the tmibile version or the developer lol
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Moto X pros over N5
- everything else
So unless those few things bother you, just stick with the Moto X
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Lol what? And the fact that by the time the Nexus 5 comes out the Moto X will be two android releases behind? Also the speculated always listening on the Nexus 5 as well the X doesn't have much over it.
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Why do you assume that's how it will be. I am willing to bet on it the X will receive 4.4 and skip 4.3
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Lol what? And the fact that by the time the Nexus 5 comes out the Moto X will be two android releases behind? Also the speculated always listening on the Nexus 5 as well the X doesn't have much over it.
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Am I the only person here who couldn't care less about what version of android the X gets updated to? The phone is perfect as is. I bought it for the features it was advertised to have, and Motorola delivered in spades. From this point on, if it never receives another update, I will still be just as happy with it.
Switching seems a bit crazy, but if I didn't already own the Moto X and wasn't majorly dissapointed with my Nexus 7, then yeah, I'd probably go for the Nexus 5, since I think it looks nice and its cheaper. Either way, I already own the Moto X and I'm very happy with it.
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N5 pros over MotoX
- colourful LED notifications
- strong dev community
- processor
Moto X pros over N5
- everything else
So unless those few things bother you, just stick with the Moto X
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1) Moto X got rid of the LED notifications because they're using active notifications which are more helpful.
2) Yes that may be true
3) Processors aren't everything but fine.
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Am I the only person here who couldn't care less about what version of android the X gets updated to? The phone is perfect as is. I bought it for the features it was advertised to have, and Motorola delivered in spades. From this point on, if it never receives another update, I will still be just as happy with it.
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I agree. 4.3 was an incremental update and 4.4 barely more than that. On this device I doubt either update will really make much of a difference... Not that I don't want them, it just doesn't seem important when the phone runs spectacularly as it is. That's the same reason I don't care about the lack of development.
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1) Moto X got rid of the LED notifications because they're using active notifications which are more helpful.
2) Yes that may be true
3) Processors aren't everything but fine.
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Yes, processors aren't everything but the N5 with out a doubt has a better CPU and GPU and will have a better dev community which will lead to a better working phone. Active notifications are awesome but only if you're near your phone. If your phone is charging on a desk a couple of meters away from you and you hear it vibrate how will active notification tell you what happened?
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I agree. 4.3 was an incremental update and 4.4 barely more than that. On this device I doubt either update will really make much of a difference... Not that I don't want them, it just doesn't seem important when the phone runs spectacularly as it is. That's the same reason I don't care about the lack of development.
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Yep, no development doesn't bother me either. I have root and xposed framework. Don't need anything else. If ever a phone came with perfect software out of the box, it's the Moto X.
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Yes, processors aren't everything but the N5 with out a doubt has a better CPU and GPU and will have a better dev community which will lead to a better working phone. Active notifications are awesome but only if you're near your phone. If your phone is charging on a desk a couple of meters away from you and you hear it vibrate how will active notification tell you what happened?
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It still flashes on screen every few seconds if you have a new text, email, missed call, etc. The only time this feature auto shuts off to my knowledge is at night (configurable) and when the phone is in your pocket or face down.
Besides all that, I'm sure the N5 will be a great phone with great support, however the chances of it coming to Verizon are slim to none so its not even an option for a lot of us.
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It still flashes on screen every few seconds if you have a new text, email, missed call, etc. The only time this feature auto shuts off to my knowledge is at night (configurable) and when the phone is in your pocket or face down.
Besides all that, I'm sure the N5 will be a great phone with great support, however the chances of it coming to Verizon are slim to none so its not even an option for a lot of us.
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You wont be able to tell what it is. With an RGB LED you can set different colours to represent different types of notifications.
Anyway, I keep hearing everyone say Verizon has terrible phone options. What's so special about Verizon that you guys stay (I'm from Canada)?
Verizon has the best signal, but has a soviet union business model and is expensive. However it works everywhere. Only reason I stay is cause I use my phone for business. My bonus is sticking 20+ gigs to them every month
I really like the Moto X but it doesnt seem to have much support from xda. What do you guys think?
Doesn't really need support. The out of box experience is virtually flawless.
Moto X on Verizon
Would love to hear from people on this. I am on Verizon and in the same boat. Anyone had the S4 and switch to the moto x?
I moved from the htc one to the Moto X and I have no regrets whatsoever. Better battery, better in the hand, no bloatware. It's like a Nexus you can buy on subsidy.
What you get from HTC One and GS4:
Better hardware, often lag and stuttering, more dev support, 1080p displays, slow updates, better camera, worse battery life
What you get from Moto X:
Worse hardware, no lag ever (games and applications load noticeably faster than the one and the S4), less deuv support, 720p display that has great color, updates faster than most nexus devices (got 4.4 on moto x faster than on Nexus 10, 7, 4, htc one gpe, and gs4 gpe), worse camera (but starts up faster and is still reasonable quality), easily 20+ hour battery life, active notifications, touchless control, virtually stock android, and much more...
Up to you
Kittiesoncrack said:
I really like the Moto X but it doesnt seem to have much support from xda. What do you guys think?
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I think that should be a VERY short debate.
gsk3rd said:
Would love to hear from people on this. I am on Verizon and in the same boat. Anyone had the S4 and switch to the moto x?
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My comments on the issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538323
Active notifications. Enough said. I can't go to any other phone because of this feature alone, and I've had the s4 and HTC one. If you enjoy aosp then this is even better
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mwedemeier11 said:
Active notifications. Enough said. I can't go to any other phone because of this feature alone, and I've had the s4 and HTC one. If you enjoy aosp then this is even better
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Because s4 had amoled, you could use Dynamic Notifications, which was the same thing. It actually had even more customizability than Active Notifications.
eyc said:
Because s4 had amoled, you could use Dynamic Notifications, which was the same thing. It actually had even more customizability than Active Notifications.
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I actually didn't care for dynamic notifications, yes it had more features but I didn't work as flawless. 99 times out of a hundred when I grab my phone and look at it the time would show and I could unlock my screen. I have hit my power button to turn on my screen maybe 10 times since I bought it.
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I actually didn't care for dynamic notifications, yes it had more features but I didn't work as flawless. 99 times out of a hundred when I grab my phone and look at it the time would show and I could unlock my screen. I have hit my power button to turn on my screen maybe 10 times since I bought it.
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True. It was not flawless. And I love that the Moto just turns on even with the slightest nudge. For the s4, that option sucked.
eyc said:
True. It was not flawless. And I love that the Moto just turns on even with the slightest nudge. For the s4, that option sucked.
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Exactly, that's probably why I'll stick with moto phones for another generation or two.
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What do you need xda support for? To remove a bunch of crap or an aosp ROM with the latest android version?
You are in good hands... Moto X doesn't need that. You thinking about that Samsung Galaxy S4 at this point? Please don't buy that plastic crapped with ugly touchwiz. At least the HTC one is a beautiful piece of a phone.
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Here's the way I look at it. The Moto X can do things no other phone can do. With root and xposed I can do what most roms can do. Easy decision.
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Yep, the lack of development us because all you need is root. There's no need for custom ROMs. All you need is stock, or root + xposed framework.
Sent from my Moto X, please forgive any misswypes and forgotten words.
I have owned all 3 devices on Verizon. I started with the S4, and returned it for what the salesman said was a silly reason. The reason being the back button was on the wrong side of the screen for my preference, and I couldn't reach across the screen with my thumb and hit the back button easily.
I traded it back in within the 14 day trial on the HTC One. I really like the HTC one and the speakers. I also like the ability to turn it into a TV remote control. It has eye appeal, people think it looks cool and ask what kind of phone it is. I didn't like the power and volume buttons that are flush. I found that I had to look and make sure I was pushing in the right spot.
I really wanted to try the Moto X though, with the notifications and voice monitoring. It was a bonus that I was able to get kit kat on the second day I had it, and even cooler that it was rooted the day after that on kit kat. I usually trade phones once a month with people on craigslist just so I can try out something different, but I really like this phone.
You'll probably get biased opinions since you're posting in the Moto X forum, but here's my $.02.
I've been doing the xda/android/rom thing since the original droid. This is the first phone that has felt fine out of the box and I haven't even bothered to check to see if root and/or unlocked bootloaders have been achieved. My last phone was the GS3.
After looking around at everything I realized that all phones are basically the same. You interact with all of them the same way and they provide information in the same way. The only differences are size and quality issues (camera, screen, battery, etc...). The only unique phones are the Note 3 (with its active digitizer/stylus) and the Moto X. I was really leaning toward the note 3 since I jot down a lot of notes at work. Then I got my wife a Moto X. Two days later I had to have one. The real kicker for me was how it changes how I use my phone. Active notifications are nice and really handy, but I'm probably one of the few who uses touchless control a lot. The hands-free texting works great (especially while in the car). I use Google Now reminders several times a day. If I'm commuting and I remember something that needs be done, it's great to just say it and have my phone remind me. I find that I'm using Google now a lot. For example - If I'm cooking and need to make a conversion, I just ask the Moto. Or in the morning I ask it what the forecast is and what is my agenda while I'm shaving. It's surprising how much that step of unlocking/touching my phone used to prevent me from using it.
Now the downsides. The back of the phone looks great, but I think the front looks a little cheap. Battery life has been pretty good, but not as stellar as what others are reporting. It still is plenty to last all day. I will miss my GS3's removable storage and memory. I don't take a lot of pictures, but I hear that the Moto X's camera is so-so compared to the others.
I'm not going to go in-depth. I had the HTC One, wife has the S4, and I now have the Moto X. I personally like the Moto X more than both the former phones. Due to many reasons. S4 is too big for my taste. I always thought I wanted a big screen, but after using it I don't like it. The HTC was just too oddly shaped for my taste, and the whole Sense thing ruined it for me, as does T-wiz. After flashing an AOSP ROM on both of those phones, they were just knockoffs of the GE phones. Meh. I love my Moto X. Traded my HTC straight across for it and don't feel bad at all.
I was also worried about switching from 1080p to 720p and see no difference. I may be biased because I have one, but until I actually got it, I thought it was such a stupid phone due to the HTC and the S4 hype, and me thinking, "Nothing is as good as these two phones!". Boy was I wrong.
Oh yeah! Touchless Controls and Active Display are the ****!
Oh yeah x2! I was a serious flashaholic with my other phones and saw how slow the Moto X development seemed to be. That also had me shying away from it, but damn! I don't feel like I need to do ANYTHING. Only thing I did was root simply for Xposed so I can use GravityBox to change some colors.
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gsk3rd said:
Would love to hear from people on this. I am on Verizon and in the same boat. Anyone had the S4 and switch to the moto x?
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I did on Sprint. I can't go back to the S4 or any samsung product until they clean up touchwiz. Plus all those features are not necessary. The main selling point of Samsung is the camera, but I feel the X is passable. At this point its Motorola or Nexus devices from here on out.
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I just sold my S4 and bought a Moto X, super happy. I love this phone. It does everything well and the size and feel is amazing. The only downer is I don't want to put a case on it and ruin its ergonomics, however I want to keep it safe.
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