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[DEV] Possibility of h264 720p high profile playback on Tegra2 -EDIT

Currently, tegra2 devices have problem on h264 playback.
But, Optimus 2x updated their firmware and enabled it.
I am using Atrix and wanted to play h264 on my phone.
Of course DICE player can hardware accelerate it but not by streaming flash.
And other players still have problem.
I did a test on several movies and found a interesting thing.
High profile movies are not really different from baseline profile movies.
Here's some example.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52685869/CES-News First Look on Samsung Galaxy Tab 11.6.mp4
http://db.tt/ULTADHdo
These two files are exactly same movie file exept profile info on file's header.
(I didn't reencoded it!)
I've downloaded this from youtube and just changed the movie file.
So upper one is just a copy of youtube 720p h264 high profile,
and bottom one is same file except I modified profile info to baseline.
If you play upper one from tegra device, it says file cannot be hardware accelerated or not supported.
But, bottom one can be hardware acceerated and played on android stock player.
So the idea is, if we can change the profile detection method of android,
tegra2 will try to support hardware accelrate on more files.
Maybe even youtube 720p can be streamed on tegra2!
I've searched through android source and found this.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
This is from https://github.com/Atrix-Dev-Team/a...gingerbread/media/libstagefright/OMXCodec.cpp
Since I am completely out of programming things,
I can't modify these codes. But somebody should be able to do this.
Help me please!
EDIT- Adding method what I tried on changing profile.
I used HEX editor, HxD to modify movie file's profile.
You can get it form here : http://mh-nexus.de/en/downloads.php?product=HxD
1. Open the h264 file on HxD
2. Press Ctrl + F and search for 'avcc'
3. You will see like this.
4. You can find '64 00 1F' near from digits of 'avcc'.
※ 42 E0 – for Baseline Profile
4D 40 – for Main Profile
58 A0 – for Extended Profile
64 00 - for High Profile
1F (31 in dec) is level 3.1
29 (41 in dec) is level 4.1
33 (51 in dec) is level 5.1
So the '64 00 1F' means 'High profile 3.1'
5. Change the '64 00' to '42 E0'
6. Save the file. (HxD automaticaly creates backup file. So you have to disable it in setting if you don't want.)
So you can test this method for your own movie file.
But I hope someone make some edit on android source for this so everyone can enjoy it.

You are awesome!

Interesting.. Dice is the only player that plays it in hw mode. Doesn't play at all in android player for me.
Still hw accelerated playback for mp4 if cool.
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sorry. I posted wrong file.
Changed it
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have you guys tried MX video player? dual-core HW acceleration, for Tegra2.

dLo GSR said:
have you guys tried MX video player? dual-core HW acceleration, for Tegra2.
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It is just too fast for me

Once again you come up with a cool mod Thank you.
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awsome work.....thanks once more....
btwn,, mx video player has got some good playback ablities. i usually decode video using hardware and ac3 or other unsupported audio codecs with s/w decoder. thanks to the dev....

Heads up
@OP
I realise that you must be spending a lot of time 'finding' things when you make these mods.
Do you use 'Examdiff Pro?' It's an awesome tool that compares two files and highlights all the edited files. Clicking on the edited files will open the .txt/.xml/etc and all changes will be highlighted either side.
There's a 30 day trial, but it's absolutely awesome IMO.
It's worth at least a look.

@Notorious: there're a log of diff tools out there, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_comparison_tools
Is ExamDiff Pro the best you can find to compare binary files?

dLo GSR said:
have you guys tried MX video player? dual-core HW acceleration, for Tegra2.
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You will see that even MX player can't accelerate my file.
You can try!
And flash video steaming will be better if we can change profile detection of android.
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Notorious544d said:
@OP
I realise that you must be spending a lot of time 'finding' things when you make these mods.
Do you use 'Examdiff Pro?' It's an awesome tool that compares two files and highlights all the edited files. Clicking on the edited files will open the .txt/.xml/etc and all changes will be highlighted either side.
There's a 30 day trial, but it's absolutely awesome IMO.
It's worth at least a look.
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Thanks. I'll try that
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So no one can help with this?
That's disappointing...
I'm tring to modify source but just ends with compile error on Ubuntu.
Need help of people who can do some *programming*
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Very nice developement, sadly i have no real programming skills either, so no idea how to help with this. Do you know how the optimus supports high profile (i mean as to what method they used)?

nice findings! I've tried it and able to play hd videos on my atrix..
p/s: can't we just do modification like this to the code?
Code:
static const char *AVCProfileToString(uint8_t profile) {
switch (profile) {
case kAVCProfileBaseline:
return "Baseline";
case kAVCProfileMain:
return "Baseline";
case kAVCProfileExtended:
return "Baseline";
case kAVCProfileHigh:
return "Baseline";
case kAVCProfileHigh10:
return "Baseline";
case kAVCProfileHigh422:
return "Baseline";
case kAVCProfileHigh444:
return "Baseline";
case kAVCProfileCAVLC444Intra:
return "Baseline";
default: return "Unknown";
}
}

I'm not a programmer, but there is a camera.apk mod out there for the optimus 2x, maybe this is a place to start/port for atrix?
http://android.modaco.com/topic/343...tchen/page__st__2560__p__1849807#entry1849807

I can playback 720p and 1080p .mp4s on my Motorola Atrix 4G without the slightest problem at all. If you interested in exactly how to do this I can show you how. The only problem is on cm7 roms u can't send 1080p to a tv via hdmi yet. If your running a blur rom with the 1080p hdmi landscape mod you could watch intensely unbelievably high quality 1080p bluray quality .mp4 files from your phone. It can handle like 20Mbps or more I think. The only limitation is the FAT32 Filesystem limit. So your movies will be limited to 4GB however they look f*ing insane anyway and your playing them back on your phone! I love blowing away my friends with my phone. The motorola atrix is an F*ing POWERHOUSE!
Later
*BY THE WAY* If your interested I can upload a short clip of 1080p that can be played back beautifully in HW using MX Video Player. Please let me know how blur rom's work via hdmi to TV with the 1080p landscape mod! That would blow my damn mind if I could use my phone as a BluRay player. It sucks CM7 is limited to portrait 960x540 over hdmi. Also the FAT32 limit isn't so bad because if u have a 32GB Class 10 SD Card like me, you can put a couple stunning full length 1080p blurays at 4GB a piece. The main limit is in the bitrate because of the 4GB limit. If a 64GB class 10 comes out I'd jump on it. Also when are we going to upgrade to "Today's standards" as NTFS format on Android. Is it a linux limitation for FAT32 or something?
CYA

crnkoj said:
Very nice developement, sadly i have no real programming skills either, so no idea how to help with this. Do you know how the optimus supports high profile (i mean as to what method they used)?
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I don't know either.
I think they used similar way or patched their driver to nvidia newest one.
I saw several changes from nvidia git.
akmalhisyam said:
nice findings! I've tried it and able to play hd videos on my atrix..
p/s: can't we just do modification like this to the code?
Code:
static const char *AVCProfileToString(uint8_t profile) {
switch (profile) {
case kAVCProfileBaseline:
return "Baseline";
case kAVCProfileMain:
return "Baseline";
case kAVCProfileExtended:
return "Baseline";
case kAVCProfileHigh:
return "Baseline";
case kAVCProfileHigh10:
return "Baseline";
case kAVCProfileHigh422:
return "Baseline";
case kAVCProfileHigh444:
return "Baseline";
case kAVCProfileCAVLC444Intra:
return "Baseline";
default: return "Unknown";
}
}
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I thought about that.
But I can't test it because my Ubuntu just giving me some error while compiling.
Anyway thanks for you reply.
SirFork said:
I'm not a programmer, but there is a camera.apk mod out there for the optimus 2x, maybe this is a place to start/port for atrix?
http://android.modaco.com/topic/343...tchen/page__st__2560__p__1849807#entry1849807
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It is not a OS level modification.
Maybe atrix's camera app can be modified like it too.
I think it is not really difficult.
But thanks for your information.
1chris89 said:
I can playback 720p and 1080p .mp4s on my Motorola Atrix 4G without the slightest problem at all. If you interested in exactly how to do this I can show you how. The only problem is on cm7 roms u can't send 1080p to a tv via hdmi yet. If your running a blur rom with the 1080p hdmi landscape mod you could watch intensely unbelievably high quality 1080p bluray quality .mp4 files from your phone. It can handle like 20Mbps or more I think. The only limitation is the FAT32 Filesystem limit. So your movies will be limited to 4GB however they look f*ing insane anyway and your playing them back on your phone! I love blowing away my friends with my phone. The motorola atrix is an F*ing POWERHOUSE!
Later
*BY THE WAY* If your interested I can upload a short clip of 1080p that can be played back beautifully in HW using MX Video Player. Please let me know how blur rom's work via hdmi to TV with the 1080p landscape mod! That would blow my damn mind if I could use my phone as a BluRay player. It sucks CM7 is limited to portrait 960x540 over hdmi. Also the FAT32 limit isn't so bad because if u have a 32GB Class 10 SD Card like me, you can put a couple stunning full length 1080p blurays at 4GB a piece. The main limit is in the bitrate because of the 4GB limit. If a 64GB class 10 comes out I'd jump on it. Also when are we going to upgrade to "Today's standards" as NTFS format on Android. Is it a linux limitation for FAT32 or something?
CYA
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Would you tell me how can we play HD files on Atrix?
It would be so great to do like that without reencode.
It is the final goal of this thread.

Sure. Yes. No need to do any development. The atrix is fully capaple of decoding some jaw dropping stunning and unbelievable 1080p BluRay quality movies without any problem at all. It can also carry over DTS 5.1 to your receiver if you want. Ok so the key to decoding 1080p on the attrix lies within Xilisoft Video Converter Ultimate (I'm using Version 6.0). I can tell you exactly what profile and settings to use. What I want to do is upload a clip of 1080p footage so u guy's can have your minds blown by it. It can be decoded with MX Video Player without a problem @ 1920x1080 @ 20Megabits or more. However the FAT32 filesystem 4GB limit limits a typical full length BluRay to 3Mbps. Which honestly look f*ing insane still! I'm trying to find a way to upload a file on here. What's the file size limit? Like 10MB max or something?
Later
*I UPLOADED THE 1080P BLURAY SAMPLE CLIP* YAY ;P

1chris89 said:
Sure. Yes. No need to do any development. The atrix is fully capaple of decoding some jaw dropping stunning and unbelievable 1080p BluRay quality movies without any problem at all. It can also carry over DTS 5.1 to your receiver if you want. Ok so the key to decoding 1080p on the attrix lies within Xilisoft Video Converter Ultimate (I'm using Version 6.0). I can tell you exactly what profile and settings to use. What I want to do is upload a clip of 1080p footage so u guy's can have your minds blown by it. It can be decoded with MX Video Player without a problem @ 1920x1080 @ 20Megabits or more. However the FAT32 filesystem 4GB limit limits a typical full length BluRay to 3Mbps. Which honestly look f*ing insane still! I'm trying to find a way to upload a file on here. What's the file size limit? Like 10MB max or something?
Later
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You can upload it to dropbox and link it to here.
Or use multiupload.
Edit- Wait, so what you want to say is.....reencoding?

Video Encoding Suggestions...

Hello everybody. I am going out of town next week for business and wanted to be able to take some movies and shows that I have downloaded with me to play on my tab 2 7.0. They are 720p MKV files and I was thinking about reencoding them to try to shrink the file size down a bit. I know just lowering the res will help do that some but any other thoughts on file type bit rate ect?
I want to maintain as good a quality as I can but lower the file size. The original files look and play great but are a bit big, I only have a 16gb microSD. Thanks for any tips, I'm sure some of you have some experience with this.
Thanks!

I use avs video converter. The filesize is about 800MB for 2 hours of non-HD video. It's easy and works well. You can start multiple sessions.
BTW - I have not used many others.

Are there specific settings you use? A profile for the tab?
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try out ripbot264 its a great free little app try the iphone profile
the tablet is pretty decent with media files although I prefer AAC audio for its efficiency at lower bit rates, we dont need 5.1
bit rate is a bit of a Q really, try CRF and try some numbers till your find a decent trade off between quality and size

NickPDX said:
Are there specific settings you use? A profile for the tab?
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Here you go.....See attached...

I use xVid4PSP 5 they have a bunch of tablet options, none specifically for the gtab 2 but you can easily pick one according to the res. If you dont absolutely have to have stunning clarity, the psp settings work really well, you will only notice the res difference if you look closely. Some movies I've been able to get down to about 300mb and still look good. But xvid does a good job of retaining clarity and reducing file size while not allowing it to be anamorphic. Just my two cents!

h.264 will give much better results than xvid though, best to use that if you can

may I suggest a better alternative?
get a 32GB microSD card. I just randomly looked on Amazon and they have
a nice Sandisk 32GB microSD for only $20, delivered.(assuming you have
Prime, if not add a couple of bucks for shipping) $20 is nothing.... it's
less than two movie tickets.
you instantly double your storage capacity without the need to waster hours
trying to shrink your 720p mkv files. (but if you still want to shrink them,
your new 32GB will hold twice as many movies!) At 800mb per movie,
that card will hold almost 40 movies! Probably enough time to circle the
globe in a 747.
better yet, if you can spare $69, you can get a Sandisk 64GB microSDXC
card that has been proven to work on the Galaxy Tab 2 7.0. I personally saw
it working on my friend's GT2 7.0. All he did was put the card in the reader,
formatted it to FAT32 via a PC, then inserted the card back to the GT2 7.0.
Now that's a LOT of storage for movies.

Since this isn't specific to phones, I'm moving it to off-topic to see if you can get any help in there.
Thread moved.

MicroSD Class 4 x Class 10!

Searching the internet I found that there are classes of microSD cards. I noticed that my microSD card class is 4.
Really a MicroSD Class 10 will make a difference in my Xperia Z as recordings FullHD videos faster, photos, etc ?!?!
Compensate I buy a new MicroSD ?!?

BR4DOKYBrazil said:
Searching the internet I found that there are classes of microSD cards. I noticed that my microSD card class is 4.
Really a MicroSD Class 10 will make a difference in my Xperia Z as recordings FullHD videos faster, photos, etc ?!?!
Compensate I buy a new MicroSD ?!?
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you will find it might be slightly faster but the place you will see it is copying files from the computer to the card

Richy99 said:
you will find it might be slightly faster but the place you will see it is copying files from the computer to the card
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But in relation to recording FullHD videos or even access to the photos of the album, there is an improvement?!?!

No improvement on quality.
The only difference you will notice for recording is that your pictures and movies will be stored faster
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I bought this MicroSD yesterday:
http://bimg2.mlstatic.com/microsdhc...roid-sdsdqua-032g_MLB-F-4460474084_062013.jpg
I noticed an improvement in speed of recording videos and photos!
Access to videos became much faster!

4K HD Resolution

Heard it is compatible with this device. How does it work and where can we see samples of it, working on the TF701T?
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Just to clarify: Are you speaking about 4K HD output via hdmi? If so, I could test this function this weekend and upload a video later.
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Well I'm not sure. I don't know exactly how 4K works on here. Are you saying we can only access 4K via hdmi? It doesn't work on the device itself.
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The product page on Asus says it's capable of 4K on the display with movie playback but CNET says it's only possible on the HDMI ouput to a 4k capable display. Only way is to view a 4K res vid... Would be a good time to test out the GoPro Hero3 Black 4K recording XD
I'm getting the tab as soon as best buy has it available in stores. Will test it out if no one gives feedback by then...
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Excellent! Look forward to your review
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4K support
I can confirm the video logic does have 4K decoding support. Or at least it's the first SOC that is able to decode 5Mpix h264 streams from my IP cameras. The tegra3 and snapdragon600 fail horribly. It looks brilliant on the screen, no clue about HDMI.

How did you view the 4K? I want to test it myself. Thanks!
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xRevilatioNx said:
How did you view the 4K? I want to test it myself. Thanks!
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I do not understand your question. My post says literately what I did to test it. If you also have a video source (such as my IP Camera) above 1080p you can test it yourself.
?

Oh OK. Have to excuse my ignorance. I didn't recall what an IP camera is..
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Look around
xRevilatioNx said:
Oh OK. Have to excuse my ignorance. I didn't recall what an IP camera is..
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Just look around for 4K material, youtube has a lot of it (but I do not know if the Android player supports it) but you should also be able to find some sample files you can download.
A good test would be: Sintel which was rendered native in 4K. Should be awesome, you can find a torrent with the 5GB here. Some other stuff you can find over here which they used to evaluate the Nexus 10 it seems.Downloads for that are here.
Last but not least, here you can also download some stuff. Now go forth and use the power of google to find more material! It's not that hard. Analyze the results and report back your findings!
update--
I tested some of the movies listed above and they played back just fine. 4K Samples did and the TimeScape 2560x1440 preview also played back without a problem. Very nice quality! So yes, the Tegra4 can play 4K HD, I cannot test the HDMI port since I have no 4K display. But on the very high native resolution of the tablet it already looks very nice.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

Ok, the torrent finished so I tried the Sintel movie. It's a full 4K movie and I tried playing it back with XBMC for Android which worked fine untill I tried to skip a part. But if you don't skip it plays perfectly. Using MX player it played fine and I was able to skip without problems.
So that confirms that this tablet (and the Tegra4) is fully 4K capable in hardware decoding h264. I saw bitrates up to 80Mbit without problem or skips.
Only thing this Tegra4 doesn't seem to handle is 1080p Hi10 anime rips because it cannot decode them by hardware. But since no other chip in the world can do this either, I guess I can hardle fault it at doing so. Software wise I think 720p Hi10 works, but 1080p Hi10 will skip frames.
When the Tegra4 comes out in 'HDMI stick' form it will make the ultimate media player combined with XBMC for Android! XBMC runs quite well on it, fast menu' s and everything.

Does TF701 capable of displaying high (4K) resolution photos and video on the screen?
Does TF701 capable of displaying high (4K) resolution photos and video on the screen? I understand that it can output 4K material to an external 4K display but how about display 4K material on its own screen? Just to make sure. Tx
Michael
Quindor said:
Just look around for 4K material, youtube has a lot of it (but I do not know if the Android player supports it) but you should also be able to find some sample files you can download.
A good test would be: Sintel which was rendered native in 4K. Should be awesome, you can find a torrent with the 5GB here. Some other stuff you can find over here which they used to evaluate the Nexus 10 it seems.Downloads for that are here.
Last but not least, here you can also download some stuff. Now go forth and use the power of google to find more material! It's not that hard. Analyze the results and report back your findings!
update--
I tested some of the movies listed above and they played back just fine. 4K Samples did and the TimeScape 2560x1440 preview also played back without a problem. Very nice quality! So yes, the Tegra4 can play 4K HD, I cannot test the HDMI port since I have no 4K display. But on the very high native resolution of the tablet it already looks very nice.
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Dreamtoys said:
Does TF701 capable of displaying high (4K) resolution photos and video on the screen? I understand that it can output 4K material to an external 4K display but how about display 4K material on its own screen? Just to make sure. Tx
Michael
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Just in the screens native resolution..
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Asus 701 4K display followup
Dreamtoys said:
Does TF701 capable of displaying high (4K) resolution photos and video on the screen? I understand that it can output 4K material to an external 4K display but how about display 4K material on its own screen? Just to make sure. Tx
Michael
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Hey thanks,
I am trying to decide on Asus 701 and Samsung 10.1 2014 Edition and both have 2500x1600 resolution.
So, if the 4K content can be display on the Asus 701 with even this 2500x1600, then the picture quality will still be sharper than the 1920x1200 resolution, right?
But Asus can also use the microHDMI cable to export video or photo with 4K resolution to a larger external display device and that is good.
Frankly I have the 700 and I use the keyboard a lot and can be use for almost all of my needs during any trip. The spare extra battery pack, the full USB and the full size SD card slot is a plus for the keyboard dock and most people did not take these into account. Yes, I like the S Pen and I used it only once a while for screen cropping to be sent via email. That is good. Can you do that with the Asus 700 or 701?
BTW, a bit studder is fine for browsing for me.
Any suggestions or inputs.
Tx again.
Michael

Mine won't play 4k videos at all. It basically shuts the browser down. I've also just tried playing dead trigger 2 and had major frame drop and freezes.
Think I'm going to return mine to best buy and wait for something much better to come along.
My son is playing dead trigger 2 on his iPad air right now and it plays amazingly on it. I can't stand apple products. May have to try the fire 8.9hdx.
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4k video
donharden2002 said:
Mine won't play 4k videos at all. It basically shuts the browser down. I've also just tried playing dead trigger 2 and had major frame drop and freezes.
Think I'm going to return mine to best buy and wait for something much better to come along.
My son is playing dead trigger 2 on his iPad air right now and it plays amazingly on it. I can't stand apple products. May have to try the fire 8.9hdx.
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Hi,
I am not sure this is the way to reply and I just follow the prompts.
Can you be more detail "won't play 4K video at all"? Have you try to play 4k video from Youtube - the demo or test videos?
I also do not like Apple product for many reasons but their iPad is a great product with 4:3 ratio. Just need a replacement for my laptop like the Asus tf701. I have the tf700 now with key board dock which I used all the time to type and to replay my laptop. Just want the best display 2500x1600 for HD movies or higher. I can also see my photos better with higher resolution.
Torn between the new Samsung 10.1 and Asus 701. Prefer to have extra battery life of 4 added hours from the keyboard dock, full size USB for any hardware like mouse, backup USB Drive, etc; full size SD card slot (for micro SD card adaptor as well) and I can use the keyboard to hold up the tablet so it is like a stand as well.
The tradeoff is the S-Pen which could be used more often as I learn how to. The 4K HDMI output from the micro HDMI out port is a plus to connect my photo editing and video watching on a larger TV or in a hotel. Try to do than on iPad without memory card slot, HDMI out, etc.
Any suggestions or input that I should consider??
Michael

donharden2002 said:
Mine won't play 4k videos at all. It basically shuts the browser down. I've also just tried playing dead trigger 2 and had major frame drop and freezes.
Think I'm going to return mine to best buy and wait for something much better to come along.
My son is playing dead trigger 2 on his iPad air right now and it plays amazingly on it. I can't stand apple products. May have to try the fire 8.9hdx.
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You got probs lol
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From the tegra 4 TRM
This is from the Technical Reference Manual at tegrazone. To get this 2663 page document, you need to register. This has been typed by hand, as copy is disabled.
25.1.1 Output Capabilities
- 1 or 2 captive panels on two 4-lane DSI channels, operating either independently for 1 or 2 panels, or ganged together as 2x4 for a single panel.
-- Maximum panel size of 2560x1600 @ 60 Hz using 2x4-lane ganged DSI channels
-- Independent resolution and pixel clock when not ganged
- 1 External Display
-- On HDMI. Maximum 1920x1080p @ 60 Hz (stereo or not)
-- On HDMI. Maximum 4096x2160p @ 30 Hz
-- With HDCP and multi-channel audio

I got my tf701t today and I can confirm that it plays 4K (3840 X 2160) videos with the normal android player fluidly. I played a couple of 4K video demos from youtube including Sony, Samsung, LG and videos from personal users. The details are excellent and definitely sharper than FHD (1920 x 1080) videos.

Is this device still capable?!

I am searching for a large screen device which also affordable, I found that device , but I am afraid of Kirin 970 , and software, ..and this device is about 15 month old .. and what is the alternatives in the price segment ?!

I'm thinking of dropping mine for the new realme x2 Pro... Only thing I don't like is lack of memory card...so I'll just get the 128 or 256 version.
https://buy.realme.com/eu/goods/121

wastedagen said:
I'm thinking of dropping mine for the new realme x2 Pro... Only thing I don't like is lack of memory card...so I'll just get the 128 or 256 version.
https://buy.realme.com/eu/goods/121
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Honor Note 10 had 6,95 Super Amoled Screen.
Batterylife from Honor Note 10 with 5000 mah Battery is amazing.
Dualspeaker Sound from HN10 is great.
Kirin 970 is good enough for games.
Micro SD Card Support
No Lte Band 20
Price 300-320 Euro Cect Shop or Ebay
Ok Realme had better Cpu,better cam,NFC,In Screen Fingerprint...all Lte Bands for Europe
both have advantages and disadvantages
Price 399-499

letschky said:
Honor Note 10 had 6,95 Super Amoled Screen.
Batterylife from Honor Note 10 with 5000 mah Battery is amazing.
Dualspeaker Sound from HN10 is great.
Kirin 970 is good enough for games.
Micro SD Card Support
No Lte Band 20
Price 300-320 Euro Cect Shop or Ebay
Ok Realme had better Cpu,better cam,NFC,In Screen Fingerprint...all Lte Bands for Europe
both have advantages and disadvantages
Price 399-499
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But the huge advantage big honor 10 is the screen and also it has 128 gigs internal memory over realme x2 Pro and 8 think honor 10 note has NFC

The main concern of me again Honor Note 10 is the
Processor and the software

Dr solom said:
The main concern of me again Honor Note 10 is the
Processor and the software
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Processor is good enough.
with a little luck will also come android 10
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I had the Honor Note 10 if it had NFC I forgot
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i am looking on Gsm Arena Page and yes it have NFC

Yes the Note 10 does have NFC and it does work with Google pay somewhat. Because it is a Chinese only phone with a Chinese rom(firmware) finding a bank that works OK with Google pay is slim.
This, for me, is a big reason why I will be getting the realme. It has a European rom.
Don't get me wrong, the Note 10 is a fantastic phone and I will be keeping it as a back up.

Will it get any updates?!

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Will it get any updates?!
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It is on the list to receive Android 10. When? Who knows.....
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Can't add the website link, so took a screen shot..

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Screen shot showed nothing
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Not sure what happened. Re-uploaded screenshot....
Update: strange the uploaded pic was there a few hours ago and now it's gone again... I don't know why? Probably a dodgy site...

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Not sure what happened. Re-uploaded screenshot....
Update: strange the uploaded pic was there a few hours ago and now it's gone again... I don't know why? Probably a dodgy site...
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Double knocks on your Huawei phone screenshot

hi please i would like know if somebody try put 512 gb micro sd in an if work? thank you and what about camera? i had honor note 8 and camera is great... after that samsung note 8,s9+,last note 9 and i dont want to pay (i dont have) lot of money for phone with 12 mpx that great photos for facebook upload not for normal life . thank you for answers guys.

superman25 said:
hi please i would like know if somebody try put 512 gb micro sd in an if work? thank you and what about camera? i had honor note 8 and camera is great... after that samsung note 8,s9+,last note 9 and i dont want to pay (i dont have) lot of money for phone with 12 mpx that great photos for facebook upload not for normal life . thank you for answers guys.
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I have been using a 512gb card for quite a while now and have had no issues at all...inserted it and it read it straight away... Though I did format the card using the phone just to be sure all was OK before I started copying stuff across to it.
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This is the one I'm using..
As for the camera it's more than adequate for my needs. Taking a pic and sending through social media... That's it for me.
I didn't buy the phone for camera. I bought it for the huge screen and dual speakers for media watching.... Still more than happy with this phone. Have no urge to replace it.

wastedagen said:
I have been using a 512gb card for quite a while now and have had no issues at all...inserted it and it read it straight away... Though I did format the card using the phone just to be sure all was OK before I started copying stuff across to it.
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This is the one I'm using..
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As for the camera it's more than adequate for my needs. Taking a pic and sending through social media... That's it for me.
I didn't buy the phone for camera. I bought it for the huge screen and dual speakers for media watching.... Still more than happy with this phone. Have no urge to replace it.
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thank you one more time for answer awesome 512 gb card is great i tought he can and ok camera is ok for me i dont taking som special photos i only dont like samsung 12mpx cameras .... yes exactly i want phone for multimedia on big screen thats same for mee and last qestion i will buy pnone today but stilll thinking about 6gb or 8gb ram variant witch one you have?

superman25 said:
thank you one more time for answer awesome 512 gb card is great i tought he can and ok camera is ok for me i dont taking som special photos i only dont like samsung 12mpx cameras .... yes exactly i want phone for multimedia on big screen thats same for mee and last qestion i will buy pnone today but stilll thinking about 6gb or 8gb ram variant witch one you have?
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I have the 6gb. But I believe to always get the best you can afford. So if your budget does allow, get the 8gb version. If not 6gb will be more than enough....

thanks man that is answer what i want to hear iam now on low budget and phone is only for yerar or something like that,so i am going to buy 6gb version(maby)