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I think if the battery life is so small, all the spacial functions like WiFi, GPS, video, movies are useless for example for a person that are not carrying an extra battery like me....
I have turned off wifi, 3g and so on to preserve mu battery...
So every time I want to wifi-ing, or GPS-ing like 20-30min I'm scared that I will got in the middle of the day with battery down and phone off....
So like that I'm avoiding to use all the nice features of the Tilt
What you think about it?
I think you're bored with killing kittens in the dark.
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I think you're bored with killing kittens in the dark.
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I'm not bored, I have it for a month, and I realized it!
Hi There...
You can do what I do... Whenever I use the GPS, I have it plugged in my car charger (I have one of those USB adaptor things and just use a retractable data cable).. I bought my Tilt used, had it well over a year now, and still have the original battery.. I typicalyl get 2 to 3 days use before I have to recharge... and I use Wifi quite a bit (my carriers internet services are great for TomTom and such.. but too slow for streaming or anything that needs broadband)... I dont; charge it though unless it is udner 5% usually.. if it is close, I will play some graphic intensive games liek Worms World Party for a while to get the battery down where I like to charge it at... When in the car, I always use the charger because I don;t think it really charges it while TomTom is running.. Usually I still have WiFi on.. when that kicks off the Wireless GPRS interent kicks in... and then with the GPS chip... and got the screen on BRIGHT when it is in the car... It uses the power at about the same rate I am using it (atleast thats my logic) The battery always seems to be at about hte same point it was when I first plugged it in give or take a few perfect if I have been using it for hours on a road trip...
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Hi There...
You can do what I do... Whenever I use the GPS, I have it plugged in my car charger (I have one of those USB adaptor things and just use a retractable data cable).. I bought my Tilt used, had it well over a year now, and still have the original battery.. I typicalyl get 2 to 3 days use before I have to recharge... and I use Wifi quite a bit (my carriers internet services are great for TomTom and such.. but too slow for streaming or anything that needs broadband)... I dont; charge it though unless it is udner 5% usually.. if it is close, I will play some graphic intensive games liek Worms World Party for a while to get the battery down where I like to charge it at... When in the car, I always use the charger because I don;t think it really charges it while TomTom is running.. Usually I still have WiFi on.. when that kicks off the Wireless GPRS interent kicks in... and then with the GPS chip... and got the screen on BRIGHT when it is in the car... It uses the power at about the same rate I am using it (atleast thats my logic) The battery always seems to be at about hte same point it was when I first plugged it in give or take a few perfect if I have been using it for hours on a road trip...
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Good, but I walk in mountains w/o a car , or wifi-ing on the street so..
What radio are you using? You may need to change to a less energy-intensive radio to preserve battery life. Keep the screen only as bright as you need it, as a really bright screen will drain the battery. Also, put the phone on lock and then turn it off to keep it from coming back on when you're not using it. I'm easily able to get a day or two from my battery by doing all of this, and I use the phone a lot.
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What radio are you using? You may need to change to a less energy-intensive radio to preserve battery life. Keep the screen only as bright as you need it, as a really bright screen will drain the battery. Also, put the phone on lock and then turn it off to keep it from coming back on when you're not using it. I'm easily able to get a day or two from my battery by doing all of this, and I use the phone a lot.
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I'm with:
PC ultimate v 11
radio 1.65.16.25
when I'm with turn off mode (push the off button to turn off monitor) it can last 3-4 days, but when I use it, like, call-5min or music-5min or gps-10min it goes down like 15% and simething like this (beem a bicture to PC - down 3-4%, and so on)...
Check your battery, ROM version,...
With heavy use I can last a whole day (3G connected all the time, maybe 30mins of browsing, 1-2 calls, 3 hours of music, 30mins GPS), with light use 2-3 days.
Maybe try flashing a different radio, to see if a different one improves your battery life. I recently went to a new ROM, and have tried five different radios to find the one that gives me great reception, but doesn't drain my battery in a few hours. Three of the radios drained my battery so fast that I was running out of power in the middle of the day. Another radio had poor reception. My current radio seems to be giving me good reception without draining the battery so quickly. It all depends on what works for your ROM, device and location, so it's trial and error until you find what works best for you.
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Maybe try flashing a different radio, to see if a different one improves your battery life. I recently went to a new ROM, and have tried five different radios to find the one that gives me great reception, but doesn't drain my battery in a few hours. Three of the radios drained my battery so fast that I was running out of power in the middle of the day. Another radio had poor reception. My current radio seems to be giving me good reception without draining the battery so quickly. It all depends on what works for your ROM, device and location, so it's trial and error until you find what works best for you.
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I have start a battery logging so after wile using/sleep time I can post a mA data to suggest me if it is ok
here you can see my battery log:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/11729584/Battery-log
I used the phone like 2min-video klip, then suspend 10min, then 5min-gpd and 5min-wifi and the result is ~17% down
is it normal?
Redo the same, but starting with a fully charged battery, and run the battery down completely until the phone turns off. It's the only way of judging how your battery performs, not just drain it a few percent as it means nothing at all. Percentage is not of absolute precision, especially if you rarely do full cycles to your battery, it's common to have the meter go down fast the first bit, then stay at 10 or 20% for several hours. Posting the same kind of log would be good.
Other than that, current consumption looks normal.
it's all about tradeoffs i suppose. i don't know of any other device of the same size that does all the things the kaiser does, that has a significantly improved/better battery life. the GPS my nokia 6210 navigator which i use as a backup phone/GPS does last slightly longer, but not all that much.
if you need something that lasts a whole day or whatever on battery, then the best bet apart from getting another battery is probably a dedicated device for that particular activity (GPS unit/netbook/whatever). but then it may not do some of the other things.
I wonder which ROM can improve battery life for HD? I tried 6.1 Dutty's and 6.5 Miri's until now. I couldn't pass 2 days of normal use...
Other experiences you have?
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I wonder which ROM can improve battery life for HD? I tried 6.1 Dutty's and 6.5 Miri's until now. I couldn't pass 2 days of normal use...
Other experiences you have?
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Battery life is more dependent on the radio (rom) than on the CE rom, and most of the rom around dont have radio bundled with them. You should rather look for a good radio rom to go with whichever rom you chose.
bR
Just flash a lite rom from Onkolog or Barebone. That will do the trick.
I upgraded radio version to 1.13.25.24. will see what happens...
Which combination of ROMs and Radio versions you recommend?
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Battery life is more dependent on the radio (rom) than on the CE rom, and most of the rom around dont have radio bundled with them. You should rather look for a good radio rom to go with whichever rom you chose.
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very same question...
The best radio depends on your location and provider.
you have to test this yourself to see what's best for you.
There is a small thread over HERE that gives some tricks to increase battery life.
The biggest problem is actually Windows Mobile. My Nokia E71 can go for almost one week on one charge. While my Treo Pro can only do about 2 to 3 days with the same battery... (My Touch HD also gets around 2 days)
I use the program on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=507301
it stalls the processor when backlight off...gives me a few extra hours, this and duttys 3.3XT give me a good 3 days of usage (completely flat byt then though!!)
but that is without BT or WIFI being used, no game playing or music listening just maybe 20-30 mins of calls per day.
Everyones different so battery life will change for everybody
Will check that out! Thanks for the link.
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Battery life is more dependent on the radio (rom) than on the CE rom,
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Sorry, but that's totally wrong!
The radio can improve the battery life, but normally the difference isn't that big at all, whereas the ROM can make a huge difference!
Its not the ROM itself that makes the difference, but the applications that are included in the ROM. Some applications are known for decreasing the battery life, because they are polling too often or something like that (or are programmed in a bad way).
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The biggest problem is actually Windows Mobile. My Nokia E71 can go for almost one week on one charge. While my Treo Pro can only do about 2 to 3 days with the same battery... (My Touch HD also gets around 2 days)
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Thats simply not true. In order to make a fair comparision you have to consider that any Windows Mobile device has normally a big screen, an ARM processor with something about 200MHz and a lot of hardware built in.
Certainly Windows Mobile drains the battery more than other devices, because there are a lot of abstractions in order to make it working with all the devices around.
Comparing the HD to the Iphone is fair, and you'll see that the HD has a longer battery life as the Iphone, so Windows Mobile isn't that bad at all, its just now thought as a "normal" phone, but as an organizer with the possibility to run really much and great programs (simultaneously).
The biggest variable seems to me to be the use you make of the HD. I have had several ROMS and several Radio's flashed and they can all be good or bad, depending on what you do with them. Some easy wins are to turn off "Receive all incoming beams", don't use WiFi or GPS. Also I have a UK Three SIM which defaults to 2100mhz 3g signal. If I switch Auto band selection off and force GSM then I get much better battery life (like 50% more) but I can't use data (other than Activesync which seems to keep working) as Three block data connections through GSM in my area.
Of course Johnpatcher is right that several apps cooked into some ROMs come with a higher battery drain. I prefer his own Barbones, at least then I get to choose what apps are draining my battery!
I still rarely get through a day without needing to top up but the point of having the HD is to use it and usually it is possible to put some juice back into it one way or another.
If you really want to see what is happening Battlog is a great tool, sorry I don't have the link with me but search should turn it up. Set it to log and it will show you the current drain at your selected time interval together with the programs running and the state of the phone and networks at that time. Makes it easy to see what is eating the power.
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Thats simply not true....
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Certainly Windows Mobile drains the battery more than other devices...
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I didn't say the only reason was WinMo. But I've tried numerous mobile device with different OS's and it's plain clear to me that WinMo is the biggest battery drainer around. Didn't test Android though
If you get that program, share it with us. I am curious what applications drains the battery fast...
The question is still up!
let's see what combination of ROMs and radio versions we have on our devices and for a normal use, how many days can perform ....
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The biggest variable seems to me to be the use you make of the HD. I have had several ROMS and several Radio's flashed and they can all be good or bad, depending on what you do with them. Some easy wins are to turn off "Receive all incoming beams", don't use WiFi or GPS. Also I have a UK Three SIM which defaults to 2100mhz 3g signal. If I switch Auto band selection off and force GSM then I get much better battery life (like 50% more) but I can't use data (other than Activesync which seems to keep working) as Three block data connections through GSM in my area.
Of course Johnpatcher is right that several apps cooked into some ROMs come with a higher battery drain. I prefer his own Barbones, at least then I get to choose what apps are draining my battery!
I still rarely get through a day without needing to top up but the point of having the HD is to use it and usually it is possible to put some juice back into it one way or another.
If you really want to see what is happening Battlog is a great tool, sorry I don't have the link with me but search should turn it up. Set it to log and it will show you the current drain at your selected time interval together with the programs running and the state of the phone and networks at that time. Makes it easy to see what is eating the power.
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Sorry, but that's totally wrong!
The radio can improve the battery life, but normally the difference isn't that big at all, whereas the ROM can make a huge difference!
Its not the ROM itself that makes the difference, but the applications that are included in the ROM. Some applications are known for decreasing the battery life, because they are polling too often or something like that (or are programmed in a bad way).
Thats simply not true. In order to make a fair comparision you have to consider that any Windows Mobile device has normally a big screen, an ARM processor with something about 200MHz and a lot of hardware built in.
Certainly Windows Mobile drains the battery more than other devices, because there are a lot of abstractions in order to make it working with all the devices around.
Comparing the HD to the Iphone is fair, and you'll see that the HD has a longer battery life as the Iphone, so Windows Mobile isn't that bad at all, its just now thought as a "normal" phone, but as an organizer with the possibility to run really much and great programs (simultaneously).
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If you agree that radio improves battery life, then whats totally wrong here?.....as i tend to agree with you even in my original contribution, but a bad radio rom IS a more likely culprit, and badly made CE rom that for example "disables standby" or affects power management function is as well a possibility. the choice of a good rom and more importantly a good radio is very crucial.
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The biggest variable seems to me to be the use you make of the HD.
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That's certainly true.
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I didn't say the only reason was WinMo. But I've tried numerous mobile device with different OS's and it's plain clear to me that WinMo is the biggest battery drainer around. Didn't test Android though
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As I already said look the Iphone. The battery life of the Iphone is worse than the one of the HD, while the Iphone runs its own OS.
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If you agree that radio improves battery life, then whats totally wrong here?
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You are totally wrong about the importance of radio, at least I think so personally.
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the choice of a good rom and more importantly a good radio is very crucial.
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I haven't noticed any difference in battery life by choosing an other radio. I have noticed some better reception, but all kinds of these results are very subjective. You can read up the radio thread, you'll find enough people saying "yes", others say "no", its just too subjective ...
Battlog
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444920
This is the thread. I have installed Battlog on my HD and it works fine, at least how I use it which is logging set at 10 second interval and logging to a file on SD which I then analyse in Excel (it is a csv file) on the desktop. I've attached the cab I use as there may be different versions but you would be best to read the thread.
Obviously, as with any other experiment, the trick is to vary just one thing at a time and observe the difference. What tends to happen is that a number of things change and you don't know which one actually made the difference.
Strictly for UK users I have noticed that O2 seems to give the best battery life for my usage pattern and Three the worst (this latter is not surprising as they use 3g whenever possible and 3g is more battery hungry). Of course different locations in the UK and different mixes of use will vary this.
I think a big question to pose is : how much time is your screen on?
The panel is the biggest battery drainer, when I play with my HD, i can see literally the battery go down in little time.
Other settings as 3g or gsm network use is also very important, or bt and wifi on.
Our HD is a little laptop, the same rules apply for battery usage.
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Olaf
My experience is, go for a complete STOCK ROM (including the stock radio) and your battery life is acceptable.
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My experience is, go for a complete STOCK ROM (including the stock radio) and your battery life is acceptable.
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But I believe it's not worth it!
I use for the moment Duttys, 3.3 XT with the last Radio; without 3G (only GSM) and moderate use of WiFi and GPS it resist 3 days... it is better then stock ROM..
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My experience is, go for a complete STOCK ROM (including the stock radio) and your battery life is acceptable.
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Thanks! I will try and see the difference...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444920
This is the thread. I have installed Battlog on my HD and it works fine, at least how I use it which is logging set at 10 second interval and logging to a file on SD which I then analyse in Excel (it is a csv file) on the desktop. I've attached the cab I use as there may be different versions but you would be best to read the thread.
Obviously, as with any other experiment, the trick is to vary just one thing at a time and observe the difference. What tends to happen is that a number of things change and you don't know which one actually made the difference.
Strictly for UK users I have noticed that O2 seems to give the best battery life for my usage pattern and Three the worst (this latter is not surprising as they use 3g whenever possible and 3g is more battery hungry). Of course different locations in the UK and different mixes of use will vary this.
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Hi all, I just got my HTC Pure over the weekend and I had a question from those with more experiecne.
First I know (or I think) that the battery life will improve over the next week or so as the battery gets used and charged. Today however was an issue. The phone came off the charger this morning at 100% and then went to work. While at work there is absolutely no signal in the building. (never has been) The only time it was on the network was a 1 hour lunch, and then light internet use for approx 25 minutes this evening. That is all, no calls, nothing, and it had 19% battery left in only 12 hours off the charger.
Again, I am sure that it will improve, but the question is ... does being off the network (GSM) drain the battery faster? Does the phone use a lot of charge "searching" for signal?
I am sure that there are a lot of things that I could do to extend battery life, as a work around (no bluetooth, plug it in to the USB on the computer at work, turn off 3g etc) but I was just curious if someone in the know on how the network and battery use go together if the dead zone is the biggest problem.
Thanks
Not exactly scientific results, but before att put decent coverage in my neighborhood, the battery seemed to drain a lot faster. I guess turning it off would help, but down to 19% that quick just seems ridiculous
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Not exactly scientific results, but before att put decent coverage in my neighborhood, the battery seemed to drain a lot faster. I guess turning it off would help, but down to 19% that quick just seems ridiculous
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Funny enough it is my wifes first smart phone. I was just looking at it to change some things to better suit her needs. When I opened the task manager I discovered that a) the programs would only minimize when the X button was pushed, not close and b) windows Live messenger was loaded. I would guess that even though she was not signed in on live messenger it could have killed the battery. Gonna make a couple of tweaks to ensure that it does not fire up again, and see what it looks like tomorrow.
So today was better, but she seems to have had intermittent service. Her media net indicates that it was connected all afternoon. She burned through 40% battery in the AM and only 18% in the afternoon.
I would imagine that the location services for the weather on the sense home screen as well as possibly push email running out of control searching for the signal. I will turn things off 1 at a time until I find out what is driving the battery loss.
Is there any software to monitor battery use and what was using the battery? There is in android.
O.k. continue to have issues with this phone.
Tested last night. Charged to 100% and then light use. Approx 10% down after 3 hours.
Set commmanagerpro to turn off the data and phone radio during the hours my wife is at work. She called today and the screen is showing that the phone radio is off, but it has lost 90% in less than 4 hours. She also said it is hot.
Maybe her purse is somehow turning the screen on? Would the screen being on without any radios cause the phone to plow through battery?
I am gonna try a battery monitoring app and see if it will tell me anything. Its freekin weird.
What radio version are you running?
You may want to consider flashing to a different Radio ROM.
try to see if there are any TSR, residente program, active, maybe be the the problem...
as far as radio versions the 4.49.25.91, for my exprience run far...
you can try to swcht to other radio version...
I am using the AT&T stock radio. I flashed to the energy ROM, but the battery issue is so extreme that I doubt that the radio or the ROM are the driving factor.
She does have 3 magnets in her purse. 2 magnetic catches on her side pockets and 1 on her wallet. While I could not reproduce the device turning on by itself from the magnets, that does not mean that it is not.
The other thing is that there was some warning on the screen about the GPS signal. I imagine that is a side effect of turning off the radios, but maybe not. Is the GPS always on normally? Would a GPS pop up cause the screen to stay on for possibly 3 hours.
This afternoons test will be having her leave her phone in her jacket pocket rather than her purse. We will see how it goes.
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try to see if there are any TSR, residente program, active, maybe be the the problem...
as far as radio versions the 4.49.25.91, for my exprience run far...
you can try to swcht to other radio version...
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I will look at that radio. I doubt its a program since I had no problems with it at home last night. It has to be environmental. My money is on the purse, but we will see. I'll post later and let you know what we came up with.
There was a few days ago where she lost 60% of her battery in the morning but only 12% after lunch, so that convinces me that it should be something that we can identify and work around.
Energy's ROM may have included the radio.
I had horrible luck with .91 and flashed back to .17.
Symptoms of a bad radio are rapid battery drain and device heating up.
Also, if the device heats up, it will no longer charge until the battery cools down.
If you have AGPS enabled, that was likely your error message when you turned off the radio.
A couple of pointers;
Make sure you monitor which programs are running as you may just be minimizing instead of closing.
Check your power settings and make sure to turn off screen after X minutes
make sure all updates (weather, e-mail, stocks, etc) are set to every hour.
Bruce Inman said:
Energy's ROM may have included the radio.
I had horrible luck with .91 and flashed back to .17.
Symptoms of a bad radio are rapid battery drain and device heating up.
Also, if the device heats up, it will no longer charge until the battery cools down.
If you have AGPS enabled, that was likely your error message when you turned off the radio.
A couple of pointers;
Make sure you monitor which programs are running as you may just be minimizing instead of closing.
Check your power settings and make sure to turn off screen after X minutes
make sure all updates (weather, e-mail, stocks, etc) are set to every hour.
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Thank you for your advise. The biggest area of opportunity from your list for me is the Radio I think.
The rapid discharge of the battery due to a bad flash, would that be location specific? The rapid drain only seems to happen in a spot where she has no signal (thus the reason I programed it to turn off the radio in those hours)
The running program should no be an issue. To prevent that, as a matter of standard setup for my phones, they have a small script that soft resets them every morning a 4am, so that they are fresh and clean for the start of the day.
As for updates, I have adjusted everything that I can, and some did not have any effect (mostly because the radio was off, can't save much more than that).
I do leave the bluetooth on all day. That should not be draining the battery in 3.5 hours though. I have read a lot of the battery life threads and many of the ideas would cripple the phone, and I am not going there. Sure maybe I don't need weather updated every 30 minutes, but I want me email when it comes in, not once every few hours. I also don't want to have to push 20 buttons each time I want to make the internet work. Its this kind of usability that sells iPhones... I hate them, but they really do just work... and my wife wants a phone that you don't need to be an expert to use.
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Thank you for your advise. The biggest area of opportunity from your list for me is the Radio I think.
The rapid discharge of the battery due to a bad flash, would that be location specific? The rapid drain only seems to happen in a spot where she has no signal (thus the reason I programed it to turn off the radio in those hours).
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Do you know how to view your radio version? Its listed on the bottom of your phone when you reset, the 3 numbers that display, R is the radio version.
You can go to the radio thread and flash another version, just keep testing different versions until you get one that works well. Radio ROMs will not overwrite your data.
Radio's are definitely location specific in regards to region and carrier.
Borderline coverage is a major battery killer, but you're disabling the radio, which should resolve that issue...
G-Profile is a nice app that allows you to set what type of connection and when.
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Mine didn't and I used the May 1st update. Still Stock.
If no signal is happening in the building, I would think it's the various things continuously trying to run, like Email, GPS etc. Constant failed attempts to update your phone's apps would definitely drag the battery down in a hurry. I have my email set to 3 hrs. updates along with weather updates. Nothing I do is so important at this point in my life that faster than 3 hr. responses are required. I also don't use things like Tweeter and FaceBook so those aren't constantly eating my battery. I get about 1.5 to 2.0 days from my battery currently.
Here is the current (no pun intended) testing results...
This AM 3.5 hours used 100% of the battery (in the purse)
This PM 4 hours used 21% of the battery (in the jacket pocket)
Gonna try to leave the phone outside of the purse all day friday and see what the results are. Then see how it works around the house on saturday, in a standard limited use type scenerio. Then Sunday put it into the purse and see if it becomes an issue again.
If all of this works out that the purse it the problem, then I will start tweaking it out, and changing radio's etc to get the max I can out of the battery.
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Here is the current (no pun intended) testing results...
This AM 3.5 hours used 100% of the battery (in the purse)
This PM 4 hours used 21% of the battery (in the jacket pocket)
Gonna try to leave the phone outside of the purse all day friday and see what the results are. Then see how it works around the house on saturday, in a standard limited use type scenerio. Then Sunday put it into the purse and see if it becomes an issue again.
If all of this works out that the purse it the problem, then I will start tweaking it out, and changing radio's etc to get the max I can out of the battery.
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So today we left it out of the purse. Here is what we got...
On the table next to the computer, so confirmed that the screen is NOT activating at all. Phone radio off, data off.
AM... used 40% in 4 hours.
Better, but still not good. Gonna try to ensure that the email is set for longer, currently it is set for 10 minutes, and then try to turn off a-gps and the regular gps and make sure that those things are not killing the battery. Then flash a new radio. We'll see how that works next week.
First, test it and watch it over normal, with signal, average 4 hours at home this weekend. I think it will do great... meaning that it is the purse, or the environment that is causing the problem.
I don't know if anyone is following my personal drama, but maybe it will come up in a search some day and help someone.
Here is the saturday update.
Took the phone off charge at 2am and looked at it at 11 am this morning. Used only 2% in those 9 hours. So it is definitely NOT a defective device, or battery. (it actually charges up in only a couple of hours)
So looking into the profile schedule manager that I installed, turns out it has not been running. So the whole purse/no purse thing may be horse hockey still. Monday I will be setting it manually to airplane mode to verify that it holds a charge, then finding a new program to do the scheduling. (looking into phonealarm)
If the radio was on, at full power searching for a signal, it would only last approx 4 - 5 hours at best. So it makes sense that this is what is happening.
Hi. In order to get more battery life are the 21xxx roms are better than the 23xxx roms?I am using the 23669 rom and within 4 hrs of limited internet and phone usage it is drained. Thats why i was thinking of trying the latest 21916rom.
so, now what?
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Hi. In order to get more battery life are the 21xxx roms are better than the 23xxx roms?I am using the 23669 rom and within 4 hrs of limited internet and phone usage it is drained. Thats why i was thinking of trying the latest 21916rom.
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Alright, next time post this stuff in the ROM thread...
Or do you've got an specified question? There are much more "naked" COM3 (start on bottom) ROMS out here that don't drain the battery in my oppinion (try KWBR for example)
Here are a few possibilities for you.
If you recently flashed, it may take a bit for the phone to calibrate the battery meter properly. Try a few power cycles. Drain your battery not quite to dead, 10-20% should do, before fully charging it. Do this a couple of times. Mine always seem to drain a lot faster for the first few days after a flash.
You could try a different ROM, either Energy or someone else. The eye candy is nice but it DOES come at a price.
You could try a different radio with your ROM. Some combinations work better than others. You might have to try a couple to find out what works best for your situation but 4.49.25.95 and 4.49.25.94 both seem to be solid choices.
Turn off 3G and wifi. Both are battery hogs but 3G is worse; use wifi instead of 3G if possible. If you are using push notification for email, turn it off and set it to automatically check every 15-30 minutes instead. If you can live with the slower speed, using GSM instead of 3G will help drastically.
Turn off GPS (location services) if you aren't using it. If you use QuickGPS you should still be able to get a lock in under 30 seconds, usually 10-15.
If you are in an area with poor signal, you will get worse battery life. I'm not sure the exact difference in radio power consumption but it is significant, several times higher with a weak signal.
If your battery has a lot of cycles on it, it could be losing it's capacity. Li-Ion batteries do that, unfortunately, and there isn't much that can be done besides replace it.
If you are looking at battery replacement anyways, you could get a larger battery for your phone. I think there has been some discussion of high-capacity batteries in the Accessories forum.
Get an external emergency charger like the Engergizer Energi To Go (note that you can find it MUCH cheaper). There are a lot of different ones but I have had good luck with the Energizer one. It comes with a pair of Lithium AAs but if you use it a lot, it will work with AA rechargeables too. You can get similar devices with a built in Li-Ion battery but I like the AA ones because you can always grab a couple of Alkalines almost anywhere in a pinch. Duracell makes a similar one. Stay WAY away from it, I had two and they sucked balls.
If it were me I would try flashing a new ROM (task 29 first if you can), new radio (start with 4.49.25.95 if you stay with EnergyROM) and give it at least three days. Turn off unneeded radios, push email, and (if you can) 3G. Get a portable power source like the Energizer one I mentioned that you can keep handy for when it starts to run down.
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Here are a few possibilities for you.
If you recently flashed, it may take a bit for the phone to calibrate the battery meter properly. Try a few power cycles. Drain your battery not quite to dead, 10-20% should do, before fully charging it. Do this a couple of times. Mine always seem to drain a lot faster for the first few days after a flash.
You could try a different ROM, either Energy or someone else. The eye candy is nice but it DOES come at a price.
You could try a different radio with your ROM. Some combinations work better than others. You might have to try a couple to find out what works best for your situation but 4.49.25.95 and 4.49.25.94 both seem to be solid choices.
Turn off 3G and wifi. Both are battery hogs but 3G is worse; use wifi instead of 3G if possible. If you are using push notification for email, turn it off and set it to automatically check every 15-30 minutes instead. If you can live with the slower speed, using GSM instead of 3G will help drastically.
Turn off GPS (location services) if you aren't using it. If you use QuickGPS you should still be able to get a lock in under 30 seconds, usually 10-15.
If you are in an area with poor signal, you will get worse battery life. I'm not sure the exact difference in radio power consumption but it is significant, several times higher with a weak signal.
If your battery has a lot of cycles on it, it could be losing it's capacity. Li-Ion batteries do that, unfortunately, and there isn't much that can be done besides replace it.
If you are looking at battery replacement anyways, you could get a larger battery for your phone. I think there has been some discussion of high-capacity batteries in the Accessories forum.
Get an external emergency charger like the Engergizer Energi To Go (note that you can find it MUCH cheaper). There are a lot of different ones but I have had good luck with the Energizer one. It comes with a pair of Lithium AAs but if you use it a lot, it will work with AA rechargeables too. You can get similar devices with a built in Li-Ion battery but I like the AA ones because you can always grab a couple of Alkalines almost anywhere in a pinch. Duracell makes a similar one. Stay WAY away from it, I had two and they sucked balls.
If it were me I would try flashing a new ROM (task 29 first if you can), new radio (start with 4.49.25.95 if you stay with EnergyROM) and give it at least three days. Turn off unneeded radios, push email, and (if you can) 3G. Get a portable power source like the Energizer one I mentioned that you can keep handy for when it starts to run down.
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Avatar many thanx for your really detailed answer . i will give it a shot.
I am using a sprint m7 that has been RUU'd back to stock 4.4.2 after problems with flashing a rom. The battery life doesn't last from when I go to school at 8 to coming home at 4 with maybe an hour of use. This is a shot of my stats: http://i.imgur.com/ATWiQ6t.png
Now, there is an update available, but after I download/install it, it takes me to through the setup process and literally wipes my data after the reboot.
Now, I don't know if there is actually something wrong with my phone, but I have had some really bad experiences with attempting to flash roms recently, and I always end up having to ruu back to stock.
Here are my wakelocks: http://i.imgur.com/kBEzRVv.png
So, does anyone have any suggestions about improvement or what I should do? I have seen many posts in many different places online, but there is really no clear, concise fix known. Thanks.
MRock419 said:
I am using a sprint m7 that has been RUU'd back to stock 4.4.2 after problems with flashing a rom. The battery life doesn't last from when I go to school at 8 to coming home at 4 with maybe an hour of use. This is a shot of my stats: http://i.imgur.com/ATWiQ6t.png
Now, there is an update available, but after I download/install it, it takes me to through the setup process and literally wipes my data after the reboot.
Now, I don't know if there is actually something wrong with my phone, but I have had some really bad experiences with attempting to flash roms recently, and I always end up having to ruu back to stock.
Here are my wakelocks: http://i.imgur.com/kBEzRVv.png
So, does anyone have any suggestions about improvement or what I should do? I have seen many posts in many different places online, but there is really no clear, concise fix known. Thanks.
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Are you rooted? If so, install Greenify and run it. It's great for solving wakelocks. I had some battery problems for a while myself, and found the biggest culprit for me was poor service / searching for service. Sounds surprising, I know. I've also read (and found it to be true), that you need to give your new operating system 3-4 full discharges of the battery to get an accurate feel for battery life. One other thing I've noticed is when the green LED comes on, it doesn't necessarily mean your battery is 100% charged. It will slow the charging to a trickle that can take a long time to completely top off your charge. For instance, I would unplug my One, and 10 minutes later have 95% charge and have done nothing to show for it.
Between RUU's, you could always make a backup on your computer of your important data, that way you can keep it stored in a safe place. I prefer going the USG-OTG route, but that's due to my so-so computer.
Are you S-OFF, and what recovery have you been using? I'm also curious what ROMs you have struggled with. I've dabbled with a lot of different ones and have finally settled into 2 different Sense6 Roms.