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Hello all! This phone is my first time diving into android so please bear with me. I'm running my phone on stock jb eu with root, thanks to the devs here. After I rooted I started un installing system apps that I thought were bloatware, but I think I may have deleted an important one, as I can no longer check for updates. It keeps saying I need a moto services account, and keeps loading for forever when I agree. Any way to fix this easily? Also, if you guys have any tips for a first time "rooter," I'd love to hear them.
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I'm pretty experienced with setting up Android devices, mainly because I get a new one every month or so (it's a real problem). I had the Nexus 4 and recall allowing it to restore from a backup. When I did that on the Nexus 5, it started downloading random apps from other devices that I don't even use anymore. I don't know what backup it was pulling from, but it was messy.
The worst part was, it kind of froze in the middle and refused to keep downloading apps. I cleared the cache on the Play Store app and started again. It downloaded a few apps, then quit again. I tried clearing data on Google Play, downloads, and Framework and nothing would work. When I tried to download apps manually, it would just give me an error and say it couldn't download. It wouldn't even update my existing apps.
Finally, at the recommendation of someone in Google groups, I logged out of Hangouts, then tried to log back in. It wouldn't let me log back in, even after several restarts.
Ultimately, after trying pretty much everything, I had to do a factory wipe and start over from scratch. I went through something similar (though not as bad) restoring from a backup a few months back. The moral of the story is, I will probably never restore from backup again.
After about an hour of setting up my accounts and downloading my apps manually, it's finally up and running. What a ride.
Cool story, bro.
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I'll be restoring from my TB backup.
danjbry said:
Cool story, bro.
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Thanks for your valuable input, bro. Consider yourself reported.
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marinierb said:
I'll be restoring from my TB backup.
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Yeah, I was rooted, too. I don't understand Google's backup system. It doesn't work anywhere near as well as iCloud. They really need to work on that.
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greyhulk said:
allowing it to restore from a backup. When I did that on the Nexus 5, it started downloading random apps from other devices that I don't even use anymore. I don't know what backup it was puling from, but it was messy.
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it started downloading apps i have backed up on my nexus 7, which i agree is quite annoying
while i know it's popular to complain about complainers, OP has a valid point imo. i agree that they need to get it cleaned up, or at least allow you to choice individual devices.
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I don't understand Google's backup system. It doesn't work anywhere near as well as iCloud. They really need to work on that.
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greyhulk said:
I'm pretty experienced with setting up Android devices, mainly because I get a new one every month or so (it's a real problem). I had the Nexus 4 and recall allowing it to restore from a backup. When I did that on the Nexus 5, it started downloading random apps from other devices that I don't even use anymore. I don't know what backup it was puling from, but it was messy.
The worst part was, it kind of froze in the middle and refused to keep downloading apps. I cleared the cache on the Play Store app and started again. It downloaded a few apps, then quit again. I tried clearing data on Google Play, downloads, and Framework and nothing would work. When I tried to download apps manually, it would just give me an error and say it couldn't download. It wouldn't even update my existing apps.
Finally, at the recommendation of someone in Google groups, I logged out of Hangouts, then tried to log back in. It wouldn't let me log back in, even after several restarts.
Ultimately, after trying pretty much everything, I had to do a factory wipe and start over from scratch. I went through something similar (though not as bad) restoring from a backup a few months back. The moral of the story is, I will probably never restore from backup again.
After about an hour of setting up my accounts and downloading my apps manually, it's finally up and running. What a ride.
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Pay a few dollars and get Titanium Backup Pro or Helium Premium. Google's backup and restore is horrendous; no one with any sense actually uses it. The paid versions of TiBu and Helium are well worth it. TiBu was my go-to for a long time, but I use Helium now. It has a much more user-friendly interface, and it doesn't require root.
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Thanks for your valuable input, bro. Consider yourself reported.
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Haha you are on the Nexus 5 forum posting about something that has pretty much nothing to do with the Nexus 5 and is 100% user error. What kind of responses do you expect, especially considering the 500 worthless threads people have posted today complaining about irrelevant things. You totally brought this on yourself, and reporting someone for pointing that out is a waste of your time. Look around this forum; the mods let anything fly here.
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Yeah, I was rooted, too. I don't understand Google's backup system. It doesn't work anywhere near as well as iCloud. They really need to work on that.
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I'm pretty sure that if you uninstall apps outside of the playstore, then upon a backup restore it will restore that app again. If you uninstall from the store, it won't restore it again. This is just my guess on things I think i've noticed.. I never actually tried to prove my theory right.
Basically there's no way for us to force it to sync a current setup. If you start flashing nandroids and roms will mess it up as well.
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Yeah, I was rooted, too. I don't understand Google's backup system. It doesn't work anywhere near as well as iCloud. They really need to work on that.
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In the Play Store it keeps track of every app you download, if you no longer want them backed up you have to delete them from "my apps."
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Pay a few dollars and get Titanium Backup Pro or Helium Premium. Google's backup and restore is horrendous; no one with any sense actually uses it. The paid versions of TiBu and Helium are well worth it. TiBu was my go-to for a long time, but I use Helium now. It has a much more user-friendly interface, and it doesn't require root.
Haha you are on the Nexus 5 forum posting about something that has pretty much nothing to do with the Nexus 5 and is 100% user error. What kind of responses do you expect, especially considering the 500 worthless threads people have posted today complaining about irrelevant things. You totally brought this on yourself, and reporting someone for pointing that out is a waste of your time. Look around this forum; the mods let anything fly here.
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How, pray tell, was a Google backup failing to restore "user error"?
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I have no science behind this statement but I've always thought that restoring TB backups to different devices was extremely risky.
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Haha you are on the Nexus 5 forum posting about something that has pretty much nothing to do with the Nexus 5 and is 100% user error. What kind of responses do you expect, especially considering the 500 worthless threads people have posted today complaining about irrelevant things. You totally brought this on yourself, and reporting someone for pointing that out is a waste of your time. Look around this forum; the mods let anything fly here.
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are you kidding me? nexus 5 may not have much to do with it, but this is a very legitimate bug in the current backup/restore system google has in place. i'm sure in time further revisions with work things out, but right now it sucks.
fwiw, i have everything backed up in titanium, but i'm not rooted and i don't wanna mess around with that right now. having the ability to easily move from android to android is something that has been sorely missing for some time for the average user.
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mjs2011 said:
I have no science behind this statement but I've always thought that restoring TB backups to different devices was extremely risky.
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it can be, you're often not supposed to restore app data but...
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How, pray tell, was a Google backup failing to restore "user error"?
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Because Google backup doesn't work. You said yourself you've had problems with it before. For someone "experienced in setting up Android phones," I am surprised you haven't been using TiBu/Helium all along. Trust me, it's well worth spending the few dollars if you switch phones or ROMs more than once a year. Relying on Google backup to restore anything more than your contacts is user error.
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Because Google backup doesn't work. You said yourself you've had problems with it before. For someone "experienced in setting up Android phones," I am surprised you haven't been using TiBu/Helium all along. Trust me, it's well worth spending the few dollars if you switch phones or ROMs more than once a year. Relying on Google backup to restore anything more than your contacts is user error.
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system error brah
Paddington said:
Haha you are on the Nexus 5 forum posting about something that has pretty much nothing to do with the Nexus 5 and is 100% user error. What kind of responses do you expect, especially considering the 500 worthless threads people have posted today complaining about irrelevant things. You totally brought this on yourself, and reporting someone for pointing that out is a waste of your time. Look around this forum; the mods let anything fly here.
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It is not that we let anything fly here, it is just that with around 90 device forums to monitor we are spread around.
Feel free to use the report button when you see something that should not "FLY"
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Settings, Apps, All, Google Service Framework.
Force Stop, Clear Data.
Then check for update in About Phone.
Then repeat these steps, and the update shows up on the second check. Repeated this on 3 phones to get 4.4.2 where 4.4.1 hadn't even popped up previously.
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Note, this procedure is to be followed at your own risk. I have completed this successfully on 3 x Nexus 5 from v4.4, however I can not test all scenarios or be responsible for any subsequent issues, whether related to this method or not. If you cant accept this, then wait for the OTA.
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Settings, Apps, All, Google Service Framework.
Force Stop, Clear Data.
Then check for update in About Phone.
Then repeat these steps, and the update shows up on the second check. Repeated this on 3 phones to get 4.4.2 where 4.4.1 hadn't even popped up previously.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...to-never-clear-google-service-framework-data/
FunkyMagic-UK said:
Settings, Apps, All, Google Service Framework.
Force Stop, Clear Data.
Then check for update in About Phone.
Then repeat these steps, and the update shows up on the second check. Repeated this on 3 phones to get 4.4.2 where 4.4.1 hadn't even popped up previously.
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No. We already had a long thread about this. Please have a mod close this.
And not to sound rude - but if you're uncomfortable with sideload, you probably shouldn't have a Nexus.
I don't believe the Dan M statement is wholly accurate, given I've thoroughly checked the issues he says might arise.
I suspect it's more a case of him protecting Googles roll out schedule planning with a plausible explanation.
Not sure why someone not comfortable with sideloads shouldn't have a Nexus... it's just a regular consumer phone like any other.
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I don't believe the Dan M statement is wholly accurate, given I've thoroughly checked the issues he says might arise.
I suspect it's more a case of him protecting Googles roll out schedule planning with a plausible explanation.
Not sure why someone not comfortable with sideloads shouldn't have a Nexus... it's just a regular consumer phone like any other.
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1. If someone who writes the code for Google tells you not to do something and gives you a list of reasons, I would suggest listening. As pointed out in the thread it can cause problems and it isn't always something you notice.
2. Because there is no danger in sideloading. It will either work or refuse to flash.
3. It's a Nexus. It's meant for that kind of thing. It's EXTREMELY easy.
4. If they aren't comfortable with sideloading, they probably wouldn't know whether or not their device had an issue after the update. They could miss out on certain features, apps not functioning properly, etc. You are essentially telling someone computer illiterate that they should do something that could potentially mess something up on their device instead of doing something that is fool-proof. That's irresponsible. Not to mention - they wouldn't even know how to fix it if it did damage anything
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I don't believe the Dan M statement is wholly accurate, given I've thoroughly checked the issues he says might arise.
I suspect it's more a case of him protecting Googles roll out schedule planning with a plausible explanation.
Not sure why someone not comfortable with sideloads shouldn't have a Nexus... it's just a regular consumer phone like any other.
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What do you mean you've thoroughly checked? You've isolated and tested the behavior of every single app that uses GCM after a framework data clear?
I mean, you are essentially accusing an Android engineer of taking to reddit to lie.. but why? Considering they have provided an officially supported method of sideloading OTA updates the idea they are "protecting roll out schedule planning" is total nonsense.
There are only 2 possible scenarios here
1) Dan Morrill is being 100% truthful
2) Instead of simply disabling the "Clear Data" button in Framework which would be dead simple, Google has chosen to send engineers to social media to spread lies and misinformation
I upgraded from 4.4 to 4.4.2 with 0 problems , if Google says don't sideload what u gonna do no side load?
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seriously sideload is about the easiest way to do it other than being able to download it direct to the phone and parse the sdcard like the way phones used to work... i know windows machines and that whole "driver" thing you guys need to deal with can get annoying but it's really not difficult. if you are afriad of command prompts then wait the 2 weeks or so that it takes to get it rolled out.
People spend a good amount of time on making instructional threads, gathering information all in one place, doing everything in their power to make it easy for even a complete beginner to do stuff with their phones, and we still have people wanting them to do it the harder way.
And then they defend their thinking with some ridicilous conspiracy theory that completely contradicts the very nature of how Google DEMONSTRATES that they are 100% behind people sideloading (ie: taking the all of 30 seconds it takes to do) an upate onto their phone) by implying that they have a vested interest in slowing down the number of activations?
Seriously now.
You people crack me up. Before this person from google said do not do this we ALL did it multiple time on multiple devices at least I did. No core meltdowns... yet.
remember these are the same people who thought the Nexus 5 camera was good to go as is...
crachel said:
What do you mean you've thoroughly checked? You've isolated and tested the behavior of every single app that uses GCM after a framework data clear?
I mean, you are essentially accusing an Android engineer of taking to reddit to lie.. but why? Considering they have provided an officially supported method of sideloading OTA updates the idea they are "protecting roll out schedule planning" is total nonsense.
There are only 2 possible scenarios here
1) Dan Morrill is being 100% truthful
2) Instead of simply disabling the "Clear Data" button in Framework which would be dead simple, Google has chosen to send engineers to social media to spread lies and misinformation
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It's not worth your time trying to explain this. There are those who will always believe they are right. They will continue to ignore knowledge provided by those who are experts on the matter and believe they are right.
The most common excuse I read is "I've been doing it for so long without any issues". The technical explanation clearly states that the issues that happen are more often than not invisible to the user. Then they'll take to XDA to create a bunch of threads about "OMGZZZZ MY PHONE IS BROKEZORZ, GOOGLE IS TURNING INTO APPLE...RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE" and not even think that the issues might be related to breaking GCM in an app or similar.
Who cares if it can be bad. It can often be easier than sideloading, especially if you don't have a computer near by. I did it while waiting for my plane the other day and it was nice to have the camera improvements before I got to my destination. Just plan to do a factory reset after you get the update if it bothers you.
Not to mention, I am fairly sure whenever you install Google Apps after installing a dirty flashing an updated ROM it does the same thing as clearing data on the framework. I have certain apps I always have to reinstall or they stop getting push updates after doing that.
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It's not worth your time trying to explain this. There are those who will always believe they are right. They will continue to ignore knowledge provided by those who are experts on the matter and believe they are right.
The most common excuse I read is "I've been doing it for so long without any issues". The technical explanation clearly states that the issues that happen are more often than not invisible to the user. Then they'll take to XDA to create a bunch of threads about "OMGZZZZ MY PHONE IS BROKEZORZ, GOOGLE IS TURNING INTO APPLE...RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE" and not even think that the issues might be related to breaking GCM in an app or similar.
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I don't want to progress yet another thread about this within two days, but I completely agree with your last point. I bet half of the people that do this will post on here in about a week saying their apps aren't syncing/working and "nexus 5 sucks" etc etc. I've already responded to someone who was asking about his gmail not syncing properly on 4.4.2. I asked him if he cleared the framework to get the update. Would be a great example if that's why he's having the problem.
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Not to mention, I am fairly sure whenever you install Google Apps after installing a dirty flashing an updated ROM it does the same thing as clearing data on the framework. I have certain apps I always have to reinstall or they stop getting push updates after doing that.
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That's not the point. He's not telling people who are familiar with these phones to do it. He's telling people who have no idea what the hell they are doing to do it.
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I don't want to progress yet another thread about this within two days, but I completely agree with your last point. I bet half of the people that do this will post on here in about a week saying their apps aren't syncing/working and "nexus 5 sucks" etc etc. I've already responded to someone who was asking about his gmail not syncing properly on 4.4.2. I asked him if he cleared the framework to get the update. Would be a great example if that's why he's having the problem.
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Alright, the real question here is after someone has cleared the framework, is there a way to recover or go back without restoring a backup or reflashing an OTA from scratch? Or does it just take time for Google to catch up? And DO they eventually catch up to the device? Or is it inevitably doomed once you clear. We can argue about why or why not, but lets figure out how.
Love how people jump on this guy or the one from yesterday who posted it. Been doing this on my past 4 devices. If something clears, wouldn't it be like hard resetting your device. All the information will get populated back. I also believe the engineer said there is a possibility something can go wrong. There is always the possibility something can go wrong with anything!
You can screw up your phone just taking an OOTO. People just need to let it go. We also do not know what his true intentions were for saying that.
If you do not want to clear data, then don't but don't tell others not to do it unless anyone here has experienced a problem first hand in doing so.
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Love how people jump on this guy or the one from yesterday who posted it. Been doing this on my past 4 devices. If something clears, wouldn't it be like hard resetting your device. All the information will get populated back. I also believe the engineer said there is a possibility something can go wrong. There is always the possibility something can go wrong with anything!
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It is not a question of 'if'. If you clear the services framework, Gmail notifications are 100% guaranteed to stop working for a time (could be 10 minutes, could be several days). Thankfully, Gmail is one of the few apps that will eventually realize the GCM id has changed and is able to deal with it. That is not the case for other apps.
The problem is people here don't see their phone or apps crashing and think everything is fine. But a week later they realize stuff isn't syncing or notifications aren't coming in and they blame it on the software update.
Again?? REALLY!! Google say no, like it or not they are the experts...
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Alright, the real question here is after someone has cleared the framework, is there a way to recover or go back without restoring a backup or reflashing an OTA from scratch? Or does it just take time for Google to catch up? And DO they eventually catch up to the device? Or is it inevitably doomed once you clear. We can argue about why or why not, but lets figure out how.
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His true intentions were to stop people from potentially messing up their phones and then ignorantly going online or on an apps review page and spouting off about how broken the app or phone is. To think differently makes no sense.
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I am stuck in boot loop with this method
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I noticed this bug within an hour of running 4.4.1 last November. Now it seems that main stream android news experts, lol, have noticed too.....
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/03/07/bug-watch-stopping-apps-on-android-4-4-2-can-silently-kill-related-background-services-a-fix-is-on-the-way/
"Google's own apps are unaffected". <<<< This tells all.
I personally think it's a disgrace that this 'bug', cough cough, was ever let through 'testing', cough cough again, and how long it's taken to be acknowledged.
edit.. basically imo, this makes 4.4.2 a broken OS
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I noticed this bug within an hour of running 4.4.1 last November. Now it seems that main stream android news experts, lol, have noticed too.....
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/03/07/bug-watch-stopping-apps-on-android-4-4-2-can-silently-kill-related-background-services-a-fix-is-on-the-way/
"Google's own apps are unaffected". <<<< This tells all.
I personally think it's a disgrace that this 'bug', cough cough, was ever let through 'testing', cough cough again, and how long it's taken to be acknowledged.
I'll just wait now for the 'shills' and 'Google fairies' to tell us how this 'bug', damn I've got a bad cough, doesn't affect their phone.
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Found the change they made that I guess caused the issue:
https://android.googlesource.com/platform/frameworks/base/+/ddc19e9
New change to fix it:
https://android.googlesource.com/platform/frameworks/base/+/2ed1e93bc963c8b779481a1db2d9f0bec8039907
This bug does cause issues. It's something I've seen a lot and more noticeable with gaming and long up times on my devices.
Is there a way to get this new activeservices.java file and incorporate into stock 4.4.2 rom manually?
As you mention.. this bug causes many problems
edit.. from my limited understanding we just need an updated am.jar file with the fix?
It seems still not merged in here or am i wrong?
https://android-review.googlesource.com/#/c/81970/
Even if it could be already fixed in google internal branch, and not yet on AOSP
Anyway I found it absurd how much google care about some kinds of bugs..Its a little bug that can have a lot of annoiance for a user and google doesn't care at all to fix it as soon as possible..there are tons of other bug under the hood, that are ignored since years...
yeah, looks like Google have not verified it.. hmmm
anyway I found the activeservices.java file in services.jar... might have a go later on my pc with apktool and change that one line of code
though last time I messed with that tool it didn't like my 'amd' pc and borked the keys from framework resources file.. it was a year and a half ago or so, hope I can remember how I got it working
Do any of the custom ROMs here have the fix mentioned above?
Is this why most of the 3rd party apps I close remain "running" with 0.00B instead of caching the process?
It has been happening with Google apps as well. GPM and Hangouts for instance, which still manages to sleep through messages sometimes.
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I had always wondered if this was a bug or done on purpose. Noob question, but can these "0 byte" processes also have an effect on battery?
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Is this why most of the 3rd party apps I close remain "running" with 0.00B instead of caching the process?
It has been happening with Google apps as well. GPM and Hangouts for instance, which still manages to sleep through messages sometimes.
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Same thing with google plus. A lot of the roms I've been using (omni, purity) have fixed that issue it seems. Some others haven't however.
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It's good to hear custom roms have this fix.
I'm running stock 4.4 atm to avoid the error. It's nice to have apps such as bbm working properly again, without the fear of missing notifications.
I've seen posts of several loving 4.4 and others going back to 4.2. Is it worth it? Battery life? Are there known bugs and issues?
Imo, its still very much subjective. As much as I've frequented here throughout the years,I would probably still be considered a noob. With that being said, here are my thoughts
Initially I was regretting the update. My battery life being terrible was my biggest gripe. I decided to root it only three days of having the stock 4.4 rom. Once I did that, my battery life levels returned to 4.2 levels. I'm getting about 15 hours off a single charge which is huge for me. Not sure if rooting actually made the difference but that's the only thing I changed after I initially made the switch.
Plus I love the new camera app which isn't offered for 4.2. I just wish Google incorporated a long press to kill apps feature. Seems like the only way you can get that is through a custom rom
Also, my screen rotation seems to be broken. It works on certain apps and not on others. It will work if I click on a video within flipboard, but not in my picture gallery. I can deal with it for a while but not too much longer
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Imo, its still very much subjective. As much as I've frequented here throughout the years,I would probably still be considered a noob. With that being said, here are my thoughts
Initially I was regretting the update. My battery life being terrible was my biggest gripe. I decided to root it only three days of having the stock 4.4 rom. Once I did that, my battery life levels returned to 4.2 levels. I'm getting about 15 hours off a single charge which is huge for me. Not sure if rooting actually made the difference but that's the only thing I changed after I initially made the switch.
Plus I love the new camera app which isn't offered for 4.2. I just wish Google incorporated a long press to kill apps feature. Seems like the only way you can get that is through a custom rom
Also, my screen rotation seems to be broken. It works on certain apps and not on others. It will work if I click on a video within flipboard, but not in my picture gallery. I can deal with it for a while but not too much longer
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You may want to look into xposed framework and either wanam or gravitybox. It will give you your long press back to kill along with a while host of other features. I could never live on a stock ROM without one of those.
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Duckman5 said:
You may want to look into xposed framework and either wanam or gravitybox. It will give you your long press back to kill along with a while host of other features. I could never live on a stock ROM without one of those.
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Dude, you are a life saver! I was able to put it on my phone with absolutely no problems. Long press to kill is back!
You wouldn't by chance happen to know how to fix the screen rotation problem would you?
Reel E. Weird said:
Dude, you are a life saver! I was able to put it on my phone with absolutely no problems. Long press to kill is back!
You wouldn't by chance happen to know how to fix the screen rotation problem would you?
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Honestly, no. That's really weird that it's hit or miss like that. There's a reason they pulled that update, though. I'm wondering if there's not different hardware revisions or something and 4.4.2 just works better with some than others. Only suggestion I could make is make a nandroid, do a factory reset, and see if that fixes it. If not, just restore your backup.
Did you make any other modifications or delete any system apps after rooting?
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Honestly, no. That's really weird that it's hit or miss like that. There's a reason they pulled that update, though. I'm wondering if there's not different hardware revisions or something and 4.4.2 just works better with some than others. Only suggestion I could make is make a nandroid, do a factory reset, and see if that fixes it. If not, just restore your backup.
Did you make any other modifications or delete any system apps after rooting?
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I actually saw something that suggested it was related to the removal of the Samsung hub app. I could probably do a reflash but I'm Judy now getting all my settings finalized. Idk man
Reel E. Weird said:
I actually saw something that suggested it was related to the removal of the Samsung hub app. I could probably do a reflash but I'm Judy now getting all my settings finalized. Idk man
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No idea how or why that might make a difference, but I made a backup of mine with Titanium Backup and I've attached an archive with the files in it. You can use that to reinstall it. I just froze all the stupid system apps on my phone. I figured it was safer that way. Anyway, let me know if that works. Hope it does.
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can anyone upload the camera app+need apps for camera from 4.4.2 ?
Duckman5 said:
No idea how or why that might make a difference, but I made a backup of mine with Titanium Backup and I've attached an archive with the files in it. You can use that to reinstall it. I just froze all the stupid system apps on my phone. I figured it was safer that way. Anyway, let me know if that works. Hope it does.
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Damn, thanks dude
My only "issue" is that I was trying to free up some internal memory. Freezing apps doesnt get rid of them right? It just suspends them from showing up in your app tray correct?
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d31v1d said:
can anyone upload the camera app+need apps for camera from 4.4.2 ?
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Why not just d/l the new google camera app from the play store? Its better (at least it is to me) than the stock camera.
Reel E. Weird said:
Damn, thanks dude
My only "issue" is that I was trying to free up some internal memory. Freezing apps doesnt get rid of them right? It just suspends them from showing up in your app tray correct?
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Why not just d/l the new google camera app from the play store? Its better (at least it is to me) than the stock camera.
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System apps live on a different partition from your regular apps and so do their .dex files (for odexed roms, which stock usually is). So no, unless you need to push some apps (supersu? ) to the /system/ partition, there is no need to free up space. Just uninstall updates and freeze.
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