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Hey guys (and girls),
Hey i'm a semi-n00b and don't know how to update the version of Windows Mobile on my AT&T Tilt. Anyone can tell me how?? Thanks
Tek12x
I tried searching the forum but couldn't find anything.
search and read before you get flamed
You have to install hard-spl (in the Kaiser ROM Development section) by pof/olipro. Once you do that, find the rom you want, download it, and run the RUU.
It involves 2 paperclips and a wall socket, if you would like to proceed let me know.
dyetheskin said:
search and read before you get flamed
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+1 well said....
Tek12x said:
Hey guys (and girls),
Hey i'm a semi-n00b and don't know how to update the version of Windows Mobile on my AT&T Tilt. Anyone can tell me how?? Thanks
Tek12x
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i'd think twice about a semi-noob...i think u've just upgraded urself to a full noob....
Tek12x said:
I tried searching the forum but couldn't find anything.
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LOL...u cant be serious
Tek12x said:
I tried searching the forum but couldn't find anything.
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rofl......no way!!!!
Tek12x said:
I tried searching the forum but couldn't find anything.
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Then you searched the wrong forum. This one has over 1.5 MILLION Posts.
Tek12x said:
I tried searching the forum but couldn't find anything.
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Maybe he searched for the text string "anything"???
Nope. I tried that and got...
Results 1 - 10 of about 65,400 from forum.xda-developers.com for "anything". (0.22 seconds)
Maybe he (or she) should try this sticky at the top of the Kaiser General page on searching...
Kaiser and other Searches
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I think maybe he meant an official microsoft upgrade, not a "cooked rom". Microsoft has not realeased an upgrade to Windows Mobile Pro 6.0 for the tilt if that is what you meant . The only 6.1's that people are talking about are custom roms.
i don't think denco most of us here rely on "oem" official upgrades .. none the less searching and reading than searching some more and than some more reading and than memorizing what you have read is a MUST >.. so happy reading.
What?
While getting chastized by someone who joined "our forum" less than a month ago is appealing to people, it was a simple question that I thought got misunderstood. So I decided to end the thread with a simple answer, because I'm sure people have other things to do. Apparently not. I have had my Tilt since 10/07 and know it inside and out mostly from reading this forum since 10/07, and have never felt the need for a cooked rom. Screw with the interface yes, rom no need. Interesting poll question though. Out of 681,176 members on this site how many have oem roms and how many have custom roms? I know the most vocal have custom roms ,but 600000 is a lot of people
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I think maybe he meant an official microsoft upgrade, not a "cooked rom". Microsoft has not realeased an upgrade to Windows Mobile Pro 6.0 for the tilt if that is what you meant . The only 6.1's that people are talking about are custom roms.
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Maybe, However I don't think a developers/enthusiasts forum is the best place to ask.
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While getting chastized by someone who joined "our forum" less than a month ago is appealing to people, it was a simple question that I thought got misunderstood. So I decided to end the thread with a simple answer, because I'm sure people have other things to do. Apparently not. I have had my Tilt since 10/07 and know it inside and out mostly from reading this forum since 10/07, and have never felt the need for a cooked rom. Screw with the interface yes, rom no need. Interesting poll question though. Out of 681,176 members on this site how many have oem roms and how many have custom roms? I know the most vocal have custom roms ,but 600000 is a lot of people
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So he feels a sense of belonging after a few weeks nothing wrong with that. Also a forum is not defined by its number of members, but its number of active members and the mission statement made by the Founders.
Mission Statement:
Welcome to xda-developers.com
This site is about certain PDA-phones, made by a firm called HTC in Taiwan. Their makers named them 'Wallaby', 'Himalaya', 'Blue Angel', 'Wizard' and 'TyTN', but almost nobody knows them by those names. The mobile provider O2 sells them under the brand-name 'XDA', and that's what we had in our hands first. They're also known as Qtek, MDA, SX-56, Hermes and many, many other names.
Since we develop software for it, we need information, and nobody seemed eager or ready to give us what we needed. So we 'reverse-engineered' the devices, found a lot of information, and shared it with the world. But as our site grew we realised that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from a lack of support. They started using the xda-developers forum to communicate and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developer forum.
We hope that you will enjoy this site and find it as useful as we do. We encourage you to donate or otherwise support this site. Of course absolutely all proceeds from donations will benefit this community.
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To all the "feel-good" and "Rambo" flamers of noobs....all I can say is shame on you.
You make people feel as welcome as a boil on one's ass.
Get a life all of you. This is not about "SEARCH" all the time. If you have the time to give a shmarmy reply, then you have the time to be helpful. If not, then perhaps you should just ignore requests for help for those that "GASP" don't "search"....OH MY GOODNESS!!!
I shake my head with disbelief at the overt hostility to simple questions.
Are you guys always like this??? Don't you get smacked every now and then? You need to....
MACkjam said:
To all the "feel-good" and "Rambo" flamers of noobs....all I can say is shame on you.
You make people feel as welcome as a boil on one's ass.
Get a life all of you. This is not about "SEARCH" all the time. If you have the time to give a shmarmy reply, then you have the time to be helpful. If not, then perhaps you should just ignore requests for help for those that "GASP" don't "search"....OH MY GOODNESS!!!
I shake my head with disbelief at the overt hostility to simple questions.
Are you guys always like this??? Don't you get smacked every now and then? You need to....
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Totally agree. No one wants thread jumping or serial threaders or how do I turn on my phone? But it seemed like a simple question and the " noob " got totally flamed for it. Jimmy, you pointed out that maybe a developers/enthusiast site is not the place for simple questions, but then you go and point out the mission statement to me that says that "as our site grew we realized that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from lack of support". " and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developers forum." A bit of a contradiction , which is it a snotty developers forum, like Jimmy suggests in the first half of his post ( I believe there already is a section of this forum for development and hacking ideas that is off limits to the common folk), or a users forum like the mission statement suggests in the second half of his post? I can live with either one.
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Totally agree. No one wants thread jumping or serial threaders or how do I turn on my phone? But it seemed like a simple question and the " noob " got totally flamed for it. Jimmy, you pointed out that maybe a developers/enthusiast site is not the place for simple questions, but then you go and point out the mission statement to me that says that "as our site grew we realized that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from lack of support". " and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developers forum." A bit of a contradiction , which is it a snotty developers forum, like Jimmy suggests in the first half of his post ( I believe there already is a section of this forum for development and hacking ideas that is off limits to the common folk), or a users forum like the mission statement suggests in the second half of his post? I can live with either one.
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So you're telling me that having the inability to search is perfectly acceptable?
Google is arguably the best search engine around, and XDA uses it for site searches. Do you go to Google's home page, and then without typing anything in the search box, just give up?
It ultimately comes down to the rules of the forum; one of which included searching before creating threads. If someone cannot follow a few simple rules, then they have bigger issues then not knowing how to install a ROM on their phone.
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This is not about "SEARCH" all the time. If you have the time to give a shmarmy reply, then you have the time to be helpful. If not, then perhaps you should just ignore requests for help for those that "GASP" don't "search"....OH MY GOODNESS!!!
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well...if the OP..not necessarily this one but all others too...if they have the time to post this question which may have been posted and asked several million times...then they have the time to search and find out for themselves..thats why the search button is there..
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Don't you get smacked every now and then? You need to....
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Those that have tried have never been back for a second attempt. Of that, you can be sure.
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So you're telling me that having the inability to search is perfectly acceptable?
Google is arguably the best search engine around, and XDA uses it for site searches. Do you go to Google's home page, and then without typing anything in the search box, just give up?
It ultimately comes down to the rules of the forum; one of which included searching before creating threads. If someone cannot follow a few simple rules, then they have bigger issues then not knowing how to install a ROM on their phone.
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My problem is not with reminding people to search,some of my answers to posts have also included gentle reminders to search followed by helpful ( I hope ) answers. My problem is with flaming people before clarifying the question. I "did" a forum search on an MS upgrade for 6.0 on a TILT before I decided to speak up and found nothing pertaining to the tilt. " How do you install Windows Mobile 6.1 on a Tilt? " " There is no 6.1 yet. " How hard is that? I have been programming for 33 yrs, I started out on a key punch terminal and then fed hundreds of punch cards into a reel to reel magnetic tape " processor " the size of most people's living rooms. My first in a long line of PDAs and smart phones, was an Apple Newton. I may be an idiot, but not from lack of experience. Exactly when did people get so full of themselves. But this is not " my " forum so I guess I should just butt out.
MACkjam said:
To all the "feel-good" and "Rambo" flamers of noobs....all I can say is shame on you.
You make people feel as welcome as a boil on one's ass.
Get a life all of you. This is not about "SEARCH" all the time. If you have the time to give a shmarmy reply, then you have the time to be helpful. If not, then perhaps you should just ignore requests for help for those that "GASP" don't "search"....OH MY GOODNESS!!!
I shake my head with disbelief at the overt hostility to simple questions.
Are you guys always like this??? Don't you get smacked every now and then? You need to....
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Shame on me? Shame on you sir. This forum is filled with very usefull and important information. People just need to look for it. If we allow every Tom, ****, and Bob, to post threads willy-nilly without remand or maintaining some flow. The forum become deluted with crap, the information will be impossible to find. And our key smart people will leave. Then we might as well change the Topic of this forum to "Talking about the OC."
The Mods have said their piece on this, I personally have been following their wishes. I recommend everyone else does too.
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Totally agree. No one wants thread jumping or serial threaders or how do I turn on my phone? But it seemed like a simple question and the " noob " got totally flamed for it. Jimmy, you pointed out that maybe a developers/enthusiast site is not the place for simple questions, but then you go and point out the mission statement to me that says that "as our site grew we realized that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from lack of support". " and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developers forum." A bit of a contradiction , which is it a snotty developers forum, like Jimmy suggests in the first half of his post ( I believe there already is a section of this forum for development and hacking ideas that is off limits to the common folk), or a users forum like the mission statement suggests in the second half of his post? I can live with either one.
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Maybe I should have been more clear. I know this is a Users Forum. Given the Typical Popular Topics I might say "Power User." Still The Mission Statement put forth by the Founders says users forum, not Free Technical Support Forum. Giving someone some Support and doing the researchfor them without thanks at two totally separate things. You need to learn to have a little thicker skin. I didn't say Snotty Developers Forum.
Fine you know what, you want to be an ass about all this, since I appear to be the only one of this opinion. That opinion of use "search" first, and start a new thread as a last resort. Here you go then....
Tek12x said:
Hey guys (and girls),
Hey i'm a semi-n00b and don't know how to update the version of Windows Mobile on my AT&T Tilt. Anyone can tell me how?? Thanks
Tek12x
I tried searching the forum but couldn't find anything.
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Its Really Quite Easy. Place HardSPL on your device. Heres the thread for it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
Then look through here to find a Windows Mobile 6.1 Based Custom ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=378
If you are looking for the Offical Windows Mobile 6.1 from Microsoft, I'm not sure. Maybe you should check their website. http://www.microsoft.com
... and I must say I'm pretty impressed. Unlike what appears to be general consensus, I'm pretty much sold on Touchflo 3D, bút I still have some problems and questions some might be able to answer. Some of the questions I know are still unanswerable, some have already been answered, but I'm just writing them down for completeness. The ones that have been answered have been edited in for future reference.
- Can Opera be removed or can the Browser globe on the Internet page of TF3D be linked to Internet Explorer?
According to KukurikU, the answer to this question remains no for now. Probably, a modified ROM can change this behaviour. NChief says that using Opera some more would be a better idea, as he feels its a more capable browser.
- Can the background of TF3D be changed on all pages, instead of only the Home screen?
Not yet. This might be in future updates.
- Can we add custom cities to the TF3D Weather application?
No, according to a thread about this question, for now it appears HTC is using a DNS referral to forward our weather inquiries to AccuWeather in a special layout. Using any city in this script that is not listed in the normal list yields no result as the whole thing just reverts.
- Can you set the SMS/E-mail pages in TF3D to only display unread SMS/E-mail?
Not yet. This might be an option when TouchFlo 3D is more heavily modded.
- Can I have the battery indicator show at the top of the screen while TF3D is running?
According to most people, it should already be there. Sadly, it is not for me. I'll investigate this some more to find out if there is a particular reason for this.
- Can anyone tell me whether the bottom USB connector on the Diamond is a modified 5-pin USB mini connector, and whether such a plug can be used to charge the phone (in case I lose my original powercable).
Again, according to KukurikU, the original cable is a modified 5 pins mini-USB adapter, I'm going to take the guess that the remaining pins are used for audio/feedback purposes.
- What are generally accepted must-have games, and generally accepted must-have applications for WM6 / Diamond?
Sadly, KukurikU felt he was not intelligent enough to answer this question. Until now, I've found that Advanced Configuration is one handy utility to have (especially in combination with the quite useful tweaks topic), and that alternate GPS software (ie besides Google Maps) is much lighter on the battery.
I also have some remarks and comments:
- Hard-SPL Dev + TLR's ROM are on my Diamond and they're great improvements. They stopped me from returning my Dutch, crippled ROM without handwriting support, slow, laggy stuff.
- Overall impressed. Good battery-life, fast, responsive, uncluttered, very broad range of possibilities, wow.
In case I asked any stupid questions: yes, I'm new. Sue me.
Why, I'm glad to see so many enthusiastic replies . Let me add another question then:
- Is it possible to minimize TT7 while still having it use the voices to indicate the route (ie. to listen music and TT7 at the same time), and if not, does another navigation program support this?
It appears this should be possible, and in some cases I find it does work, in some cases it doesn't. If I find out what way to get both running is best, I'll edit it in.
- Learn to use opera and you will notice that it's WAY better than IE
- The background can not be changed on all TF3D pages (yet?)
- You can not add custom cityes to the TF3D Weather application
- I have learnd that I can use any mini-USB cabel for chargeing(don't think its recomended tho)
That's the questions I can answer, hope I got them right.
btw, try searching the forum
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Why, I'm glad to see so many enthusiastic replies
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Many of your questions have been asked and answered a thousand times over. Perhaps people have got sick of answering the same question to people too lazy to read what has already been written?
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Many of your questions have been asked and answered a thousand times over. Perhaps people have got sick of answering the same question to people too lazy to read what has already been written?
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I already stated in the first post that many of these have already been answered, but that I'm listing them for completeness. Please, if you want to point the finger at anyone not reading, please point it at yourself. Especially for you, I've been so free to bolden the text I'm referring to in my first post.
Besides that, I must say the search function on this forum is pretty useless - thanks to people posting those same questions over and over. For one of my questions, I ended up going back to page 13. I'm glad this forum is so inviting to people with questions, I mean, after all, a forum is not for asking things, is it now? Of course not, that would be absurd. Especially seeing that to find the answers to some of these questions, you have to spend almost an hour digging through multi-page threads in a 50-page topic list. It would be extremely hard to answer those questions for someone who knows the answer to these, I know, but honestly, I take it someone can put in the heroic and epic effort to at least try? Now, if there were a sticky with questions answered too often, that'd be a first step in the good direction. A bit like the, may I add, excellent list of tweaks. Do you hear anyone ask for tweaks besides in that topic? Of course not, there's a practical resource for going through that.
Nevertheless, I would like the answers on the questions not answered yet. There are at least three I know have not been answered yet, or of which I could not find the answer. At least, thanks for the ironic reply.
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Why, I'm glad to see so many enthusiastic replies . Let me add another question then:
- Is it possible to minimize TT7 while still having it use the voices to indicate the route (ie. to listen music and TT7 at the same time), and if not, does another navigation program support this?
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you are funny (not going to say ridiculous).
maybe you don't get answers because your questions are not of so great importance? ... games, applications, tt7 voices (is this a navigation programs forum? and btw, in igo8 this is an option of the program and not of the pda)? and so on...
Can I have the battery indicator show at the top of the screen while TF3D is running?
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this is a good example of life-death question. here is an answer: you should have it all the time, it is already there! duh!? look again...
i think you didn't notice that the great majority of posters here are fighting with really technical issues or waiting for help in critical issues, not to mention the ones that are developing tools and applications to make our diamond more reliable and fast. the forum is full with "after 1 week", "i have it for 2 weeks" complains and reviews. don't want to be mean or sarcastic (and it is hard for me not to) but could wait a little more or search a little more here and in other places?
I agree with tha-rami, the search function doesn't always provide the results you want and this is a forum i.e. a medium for a free and open exchange of views. Yes, a search is most peoples' first option but I for one simply don't have the time to spend hours and hours trawling through each page and topic.
Have a little patience and don't assume that a poster hasn't searched - two days ago the search function didn't work at all for me. If you can't be constructive in a reply then you have to question why you're replying at all!
Regards
Skier641
tha_rami said:
Why, I'm glad to see so many enthusiastic replies . Let me add another question then:
- Is it possible to minimize TT7 while still having it use the voices to indicate the route (ie. to listen music and TT7 at the same time), and if not, does another navigation program support this?
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On my previous Touch and Touch Dual and also Ameo devices ive had Tom Tom Navigator 6 minimised with music playing and the Voice directions have still worked.
I have John Cleese as the Voice on my device and its great listening to him chatting all over some dance music! hehe!
Regarding the custom city in Weather, see this thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397599
I agree with both sides of the argument.
It took me a few seconds to search for Custom City part of the Forum, but ive also had problems searching for items.
It would be nice if there was a thread started, that literally was edited and updated with all the common questions. (I suppose thats what the Wiki's for, but i never look at it as its never usually up to date) no other posts were added just 1 long 1st post that had a list of all the useful threads in it and what they were.
It can be hard trawling through many pages of threads trying to find what you want, but in my experience its worth it! Some of the replys to people asking questions can be a bit sarcastic tho...
eg
Search the Forum
Try Searching
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Have you thought about Clicking on Search?
But i understand where these people are coming from, they have all searched through the forums and looked for what they want. Maybe it does take a little longer but im hoping that moderators will begin to tidy things up on here as there are alot of duplicate posts and information.
I think maybe the Forum should have a "Diamond Reviews" or "Reviews and Experiences" section added in. That way all the people that want to voice their opinions can do in their own part of the forum, plus this will free up some of the General Diamond discussions. Just an idea, please dont flame me for my opinion.
Anyway, I agree that XDA Developers is an excellent source of information for all things Diamond. All good! Glad its here and glad there are so many helpful people on here. Nice one!
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I already stated in the first post that many of these have already been answered, but that I'm listing them for completeness.
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If you already knew the answers and were really interested in "posting for completeness", you'd have posted the answers too. More to the point, how exactly is the community here best served by posting the same old questions yet again, under yet another post with a completely nondescript title?
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Besides that, I must say the search function on this forum is pretty useless
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Someone should come up with some internet service dedicated to searching this big ol-internet thingy we've got going on. they could call it "Google" or "Live Search". Something like that. They can even limit your search to just the site you want!
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thanks to people posting those same questions over and over.
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LMAO!!! So you admit yourself that the search becomes useless because of people posting the same damn questions over and over - and to fix this... you post the same damn questions again! Nice logic you got going on there.
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For one of my questions, I ended up going back to page 13.
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Oh no. Thanks to your and your kind you had to go through the monumental effort of going back a whole 13 pages??? Firstly, stop posting these kinds of pointless posts and maybe you'll only have to go back 3 pages. And if even that's too much, those fancy interweb search engines should still ease your troubled journey.
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I'm glad this forum is so inviting to people with questions, I mean, after all, a forum is not for asking things, is it now?
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Is it now? Is it now? Is it now? Is it now? Is it now? Is it now? Is it now? Is it now? Is it now? Is it now? Is it now? Is it now? Is it now?
I just asked your question several times. How did that help more than asking it just once? Most people don't have a problem with genuine questions. The same questions ad nauseum just wastes everyone's time though. you admit that yourself with your "i had to go to page 13!!!" rant.
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Especially seeing that to find the answers to some of these questions, you have to spend almost an hour digging through multi-page threads in a 50-page topic list.
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Again, your own fault, and those good search facilities help. they'd help even more if your thread had a meaningful title that was actually related to the question!
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I take it someone can put in the heroic and epic effort to at least try?
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So the smart people are supposed to put in a heroic effort to answer every single one of your questions, but you can't put in a heroic effort to search? Figures.
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Now, if there were a sticky with questions answered too often, that'd be a first step in the good direction.
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You should have started one instead of posting this nonsense.
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A bit like the, may I add, excellent list of tweaks. Do you hear anyone ask for tweaks besides in that topic? Of course not
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Hahaha. Right. Actually, you're wrong there.
lol! and i thought i am evil!? i am angel!
mr_ray, you are my hero!
pity, you wasted yr time and i may say yr literally talent....the spammers are stubborn, they don't quit easily.. they want their answers to their useless (i didn't say stupid) posts and they insist they have the right to pest this place.
you can explain to them, you can beg, you can ridicule them you even can insult .....no results..they'll never quit.
they just don't get it. they don't know that there are rules or maybe they know but don't give a f...
The arrogance is outstanding! There are just three sub-forums here for the Diamond so if you super smart phone geeks want to have your own sub-forum I suggest you start one - 'uber geek' or similar. This is a forum as previously stated and some seem to spend a great deal of time putting an individual down rather than pointing them in the right direction. Don't mention the search facility, it's poor. This evening I searched for 'GPS latitude' (I wanted to see if I could get raw lat & long without installing TomTom, Co-pilot or something similar). The result of the search pointed me to a thread of multiple pages - I got to page 13 before I gave up without any mention of anything relevant.
I give up quite a bit of my time suporting people via the Microsoft newsgroups for Vista, Outlook and wireless networks in the full knowledge that most posters don't have the knowledge that I do in these areas but, not once have I arbitarily decided that I'm smarter than them. No doubt in some cases I will be and in some cases I won't. But for your information, if qualifications are any measure of 'smartness' (and they're not!), I have a Bachelors and two Masters degrees and the next time your aircraft takes off late flying you to wherever it might just be because I'm searching a forum for the umpteenth hour.
Relax and help others, you may find that others will help you one day!
Regards
Skier641
- Can Opera be removed or can the Browser globe on the Internet page of TF3D be linked to Internet Explorer?
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not yet
- Can the background of TF3D be changed on all pages, instead of only the Home screen?
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not yet
- Can we add custom cities to the TF3D Weather application?
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most certainly not
- Can you set the SMS/E-mail pages in TF3D to only display unread SMS/E-mail?
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no
- Can I have the battery indicator show at the top of the screen while TF3D is running?
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you already have it.
- Can anyone tell me whether the bottom USB connector on the Diamond is a modified 5-pin USB mini connector, and whether such a plug can be used to charge the phone (in case I lose my original powercable).
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it the most common usb cable. charging yr diamond this way is going to heat it a little bit. i recommend the original wall charger.
- What are generally accepted must-have games, and generally accepted must-have applications for WM6 / Diamond?
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lost at this one. i think only somebody with two masters can answer you to that. i only have a bachelor degree and only one master (electrical engineering...geek).
try and convince sky641 to answer you to that. he loves you and ppl like you no, wait, he is one of you. he didn't bother to answer to none of yr highly challenging questions but he did join you in complaining about the search feature and he keeps defending yr right to post..whatever you post.
now i hope that no plane is going to take off late....
signed,
a defeated, broken but relaxed ubergeek
regards
P.S.
i am and i was relaxed. staying in front my pc and reading posts like this one is more relaxing than watching a George Carlin show. Just laughing my a...off.
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you already have it.
it the most common usb cable. charging yr diamond this way is going to heat it a little bit. i recommend the original wall charger.
lost at this one. i think only somebody with two masters can answer you to that. i only have a bachelor degree and only one master (electrical engineering...geek).
try and convince sky641 to answer you to that. he loves you and ppl like you no, wait, he is one of you. he didn't bother to answer to none of yr highly challenging questions but he did join you in complaining about the search feature and he keeps defending yr right to post..whatever you post.
now i hope that no plane is going to take off late....
signed,
a defeated, broken but relaxed ubergeek
regards
P.S.
i am and i was relaxed. staying in front my pc and reading posts like this one is more relaxing than watching a George Carlin show. Just laughing my a...off.
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Why, thank you. I'm not even going to reply further to Mr Ray, as I've had quite some fun reading his reply. He seems to indeed be quite literal, and he appears very good at ignoring the very cause of a forum and for indeed seems to love using that to put 40 minutes into trying to make fun out of someone (which ended up in a fail, although I did chuckle at the "Is it now?" thing, which was, admittedly, rather funny). Now, you, you are pretty horrible as well, but luckily, you posted some answers.
I'm glad to see people agree with me, and I know why. I know that they know that even Mr Ray and you both started one day by asking a question here. I know that most likely, you've been treated the exact same way, or that you were so lucky running into a normal person who has more to do than wasting 40 minutes putting someone down. Well, try someone else for that, I usually just skip those posts.
Oddly, I have a problem with one of the questions - and the problem is: there is no battery indicator, and if there were, why in gods or any deity's name would I ask for it? I'm using TLR's ROM 1 on a Dutch Diamond. I play to flash it to TLR's ROM 2 as soon as I get Outlook on this PC to at least not lose my contacts, and will report whether or not it shows up then.
Glad to know that the battery charger is indeed an USB 5-pin connector. Also glad to know that there are sane people around. I was thinking of spending some more time on these forums, and seeing that the most active posters around seem to be half-intelligent morons that spend days lurking for threads that contains anything they can flame (a common problem amongst the more 'elite' users of forums, of whom some feel they're too important to waste time reading topic-titles of subcritical questions, but feel new people should click through all 50 pages to find an answer tucked away on page 27 of the topic because the search engine in vBulletin forums sucks big time. I studied some internet- and social psychology, no master in that, though), I think I actually should may I find some spare time. There are probably lots of people around with subimportant questions and the best way to help them, is to help them.
Luckily, there are people like Skier641 around, people who maybe do not know the answer, but do voice their opinion against those of the 'elite' who feel they're exactly that, effectively rendering them useless to both community and forum. Luckily, my questions have been answered rather satisfactory. I'll edit the answers into my first post for further reference. Maybe, some day, the search engine will actually work and yield someone this thread, after which they can quickly and easily find the answers on page 1.
I'm spending too much time on this. For your information, this took 6 minutes to write. I hope that Mr Ray and whatever-his-name-was-again are having 20 minutes of great fun using their reverse psychology on this subject. It's amazing how most likely, they'll spend tens of minutes writing a witty reply to this one, instead of taking the five minutes it would've taken to answer my questions. Or maybe, after I posted that line, they'll act smart and reply in one line. Alternatively, after that line, they may not post at all.
That makes 7 minutes.
I've been using Myn's Warm Donut for the past week and all in all, it's a great build. My only complaint is that the camera picture quality is terrible. I've tried using the slider to increase the picture quality, which does help, but is nowhere near the quality of pictures taken on NFSFan's windows mobile 6.5 ROM. At it's highest setting, there are lines and noise throughout the image and a very visible horizontal line about 1/4 up from the bottom of the picture. Is anyone else having this problem?
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I've been using Myn's Warm Donut for the past week and all in all, it's a great build. My only complaint is that the camera picture quality is terrible. I've tried using the slider to increase the picture quality, which does help, but is nowhere near the quality of pictures taken on NFSFan's windows mobile 6.5 ROM. At it's highest setting, there are lines and noise throughout the image and a very visible horizontal line about 1/4 up from the bottom of the picture. Is anyone else having this problem?
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So the volume control, when the camera is up controls the exposure I am pretty sure. But yeah camera is not the best in android, I attached some pics at the different exposure settings. I see a line too.
Yep that's right about where my images are...same here
there are tons of questions and answers about this, search before asking!!!
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there are tons of questions and answers about this, search before asking!!!
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No there isn't... I did search before asking. If you had done so yourself before posting a useless reply, you too would have seen this. But thanks for not trying to help
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No there isn't... I did search before asking. If you had done so yourself before posting a useless reply, you too would have seen this. But thanks for not trying to help
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why does everyone always have to get an attitude. i tried to help by saying to search. there are alot more discussions about this than you think. ive even asked about this.
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why does everyone always have to get an attitude. i tried to help by saying to search. there are alot more discussions about this than you think. ive even asked about this.
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It's probably because you presume people don't know how to use a simple search feature, while contributing absolutely nothing to the discussion... but that's just a guess
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It's probably because you presume people don't know how to use a simple search feature, while contributing absolutely nothing to the discussion... but that's just a guess
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if people knew how to search and actually spent more than 2 seconds looking then this forum would be alot cleaner. and this discussion has already been discussed, thank you
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why does everyone always have to get an attitude. i tried to help by saying to search. there are alot more discussions about this than you think. ive even asked about this.
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Because repeating yourself over and over without actually adding to the discussion or attempting to help comes across as pointless.
Searching before posting is the first rule in the rules thread. Different searched yield different results, and some people may not know the proper terminology to find their answer.
Think about it this way: Say you searched, didn't find your answer, regardless of whether or not it was out there. Since you were unable to find it, you post your question. Someone replied, and you got hopeful that maybe an answer had presented itself since your search tactics were not effective. You go to the reply and all they said was "you should probably search for it." This can be frustrating because 1) you already did that, and 2) instead of going further and trying to help you, the person replying left you exactly where you were before, but wasted your time and frustrated you in the process.
I would recommend you stop telling everyone to search unless you yourself can help them find their answer in the same post.
malice9999, I have also had the camera issue (on multiple builds), but I hardly use it so it was never worth mentioning. However, this question may have been better served in the thread for the build in question.
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Because repeating yourself over and over without actually adding to the discussion or attempting to help comes across as pointless.
Searching before posting is the first rule in the rules thread. Different searched yield different results, and some people may not know the proper terminology to find their answer.
Think about it this way: Say you searched, didn't find your answer, regardless of whether or not it was out there. Since you were unable to find it, you post your question. Someone replied, and you got hopeful that maybe an answer had presented itself since your search tactics were not effective. You go to the reply and all they said was "you should probably search for it." This can be frustrating because 1) you already did that, and 2) instead of going further and trying to help you, the person replying left you exactly where you were before, but wasted your time and frustrated you in the process.
I would recommend you stop telling everyone to search unless you yourself can help them find their answer in the same post.
malice9999, I have also had the camera issue (on multiple builds), but I hardly use it so it was never worth mentioning. However, this question may have been better served in the thread for the build in question.
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if you have a question that involves one of the roms then its best to ask that question in that thread instead of making new threads to take up space. ive been chewed out for posting threads that have already been asked but when i simply tell someone to search im the bad guy???? this forum and the people in it are starting to get out of controll with asking the same questions over and over and over and people getting an attitude. if somebody is not helpfull then ignore that post. there is no need to get an attitude, it will just create a problem.
Malice9999, as I understand it the camera for the Vogue is not fully implemented in Android as of yet but people are working on it. It doesn't work too great in any of the Android builds, but hopefully soon.
Personally I always thought the camera on teh Vogue was next to worthless anyways..
THis thread has been discussed elsewhere and there has been enough flaming in this thread, hence it is now closed.
Happy Easter if you follow that trend
A stickied folder for Help and Troubleshooting for both apps and themes? Or each their own? Please be gentle. Since so many people are using different builds, just wondering.
lol guess not!
The problem is people don't use them. There are existing threads that were written to explain how to install, etc. You can go through any one of the rom threads and see the same questions asked over and over and over. I have stopped answering the blatant "I didn't even try to figure it out" kind of questions. You want to play with this stuff I feel you need to put in the effort to figure out how it works before you do something. And how to fix it when you inevitably break it. Freaking out when your tablet bootloops and then just asking the same stupid questions again, and again really does get annoying... The major issues that you can run into have been solved, and answered in numerous locations, numerous times. You just have to look for it!
That is done by reading! A lot of reading... I answer a lot of questions. But rarely ever ask one. Why? Because 9 times out of 10 the same question has already been answered. You just have to learn to use the search button at the top of the page.. Or search Google for the subject. This tablet is not really that much different from any Android phone and a lot of the info applies.
If you are not willing to try to help yourself maybe an Ipad is a better fit.
So, if you want to write an FAQ have fun. Maybe people will use it. But I wouldn't really get my hopes up that it will stop the people that won't read, are illiterate, lazy, whatever the excuse is from asking the same thing over, and over...
I agree with you 100%. I was just wondering if a mod could make a sub folder. But like you said I'm not sure everyone would use it. I appreciate the response.
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The problem is people don't use them. There are existing threads that were written to explain how to install, etc. You can go through any one of the rom threads and see the same questions asked over and over and over. I have stopped answering the blatant "I didn't even try to figure it out" kind of questions. You want to play with this stuff I feel you need to put in the effort to figure out how it works before you do something. And how to fix it when you inevitably break it. Freaking out when your tablet bootloops and then just asking the same stupid questions again, and again really does get annoying... The major issues that you can run into have been solved, and answered in numerous locations, numerous times. You just have to look for it!
That is done by reading! A lot of reading... I answer a lot of questions. But rarely ever ask one. Why? Because 9 times out of 10 the same question has already been answered. You just have to learn to use the search button at the top of the page.. Or search Google for the subject. This tablet is not really that much different from any Android phone and a lot of the info applies.
If you are not willing to try to help yourself maybe an Ipad is a better fit.
So, if you want to write an FAQ have fun. Maybe people will use it. But I wouldn't really get my hopes up that it will stop the people that won't read, are illiterate, lazy, whatever the excuse is from asking the same thing over, and over...
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I have found that I can't search while using the G-Tablet's browser on XDA Forums. Not an excuse for not going to one's PC and searching but perhaps a root cause of so much repitition on the forum.
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I have found that I can't search while using the G-Tablet's browser on XDA Forums. Not an excuse for not going to one's PC and searching but perhaps a root cause of so much repitition on the forum.
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Most of the questions I see that repeat are the questions where someone no longer has use of there tablet because it has bootlooped, or some other evil thing. So they must have had use of a PC to ask the question. I think it is more a lack of patience, OMG! my tablet is dead and the sky is going to fall kind of thing.
Take a breath, slow down for a minute. The world won't stop spinning because your tablet froze. Take some time and read! And like magic... The answer will likely pop up from a number of different threads.
I really do understand the mentality.. It is a part of life today. Instant gratification without having to put any effort into anything. Maybe it is just because I am older but I was raised in a generation where asking a question normally got answered with a question! Like did you look in the book? Did you try and figure it out for yourself? Did you do anything to help yourself before you asked the question? And then it may have been answered with a big slap in the head!
I have always tried to look at things as if I am stranded on an Island in the middle of the Ocean. The ONLY way to get off the Island is to figure out a solution.. And unbelievably every manual ever made just happens to be on that Island. Well, I'm gonna get off that Island. I'm going to take the time to read.
With the use of the elusive button we call "Search" you too can have every manual ever made! Or at least have most of your answers.. And you too can get off the Island!
I was more or less asking if those questions could be moved to an isolated area lol, I use the search function. But sometimes the meat can get covered up by the potatoes so to speak.
once again thank you for the quick reply.
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I was more or less asking if those questions could be moved to an isolated area lol, I use the search function. But sometimes the meat can get covered up by the potatoes so to speak.
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I know.. For some reason my fingers just felt like typing. I will quit now
LOL hey no worries. It needed to be said, and I agree.
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I have found that I can't search while using the G-Tablet's browser on XDA Forums. Not an excuse for not going to one's PC and searching but perhaps a root cause of so much repitition on the forum.
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It's not just w default browser... other browsers same problem. Instead click the Search button, then click the Advanced Search link.
Jim
jimcpl said:
It's not just w default browser... other browsers same problem. Instead click the Search button, then click the Advanced Search link.
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I agree, for some reason on this site when I search I come up empty almost every time. Not sure what I am doing wrong, using MS Explorer. On some of the other forums I use the search function works fine.
I have quite a few questions. First, I know the device has been successfully rooted, but I'm not entirely sure what the means for us users. Have any impressive mods or hacks been released for the ChomeCast yet? Also, is it possible to stream from PC to my ChomeCast? And lastly, how does this affect battery life when streaming from an Android device?
You can stream Netflix, YouTube and chrome tabs to your device from your pc.
From an Android phone you can stream YouTube, Netflix and Hulu atm
It doesn't affect battery life at all, other than using the app since the chromecast is not actually receiving any data from the phone but from a server (Netflix, YouTube, Hulu) . Your phone only sends a link to the chromecast.
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I have quite a few questions. First, I know the device has been successfully rooted, but I'm not entirely sure what the means for us users. Have any impressive mods or hacks been released for the ChomeCast yet? Also, is it possible to stream from PC to my ChomeCast? And lastly, how does this affect battery life when streaming from an Android device?
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Have you looked at any reviews? Done any reading/research? Those are very basic questions, that could easily be found with minimal effort. This helps keep the forum from getting cluttered and the same questions from being asked again and again. The member here are less likely to help if you not putting much effort into finding answers. Just some friendly advice.
I will provide some assistance.
1. If you have a Chromecast with the original Firmware, not likely unless you got one of the early devices and it hasn't updated the firmware, then Yes it can be rooted. Device with newer firmware out of luck, at least for now.
There not much you can really do, even if you had a rooted Chromecast at this point.
2. You can cast YouTube and Netflix form the Chrome browser on your computer. You can also cast a tab form the Chrome browser and any content it may be running. There is also an experimental feature found in the Chrome Browser that will allow you to cast you desktop.
You can also drag and drop compatible media (Music, video) into an empty Chrome browser tab and have it cast to you TV.
3. I doesn't affect battery life on you android device. Your Android device just tells the Chromecast fetch the media from Netflix, YouTube or Hulu Plus and play it on you TV. After the media starts playing you could turn off you device and the Chromecast would continue to play the media.
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Have you looked at any reviews? Done any reading/research? Those are very basic questions, that could easily be found with minimal effort. This helps keep the forum from getting cluttered and the same questions from being asked again and again. The member here are less likely to help if you not putting much effort into finding answers. Just some friendly advice.
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After having read many reviews and articles on the internet about the capabilities, features and benefits of owning/purchasing a chromecast, I came to the realization that it offered very few, if any, of those things after the "update". Still, I had the same question as the OP and hoped that XDA might further my education on the matter. I assumed based on the date of their post, that the OP was as up to date as I was. So, I eagerly clicked on the thread hoping to find a friendly conversation about any possible progress, hacks, developer apps or current work arounds, but instead was met by what seems to have become the standard retort for anyone that has a simple question on xda. The only question you left out was, "did you even try searching?"
Honestly, I am not trying to be ugly or smart, but it seems like xda is an appropriate place to ask questions when someone has one. While I know that it seems like many are lazy and don't bother searching, reading or educating themselves before starting a thread and wasting precious forum space, sometimes it would be great to find real answers and and friendly responses without assuming the OPs back story. There, I got that off my chest and provided nothing useful to the conversation myself and suppose I am prepared for the backlash, but I'd rather continue my search for answers to my original question. Is there anyone out there making the Chromecast dongle worth buying and in return, accepting donation money from me for their work? OK. Off my soapbox, no offense and sorry for wasting thread space that is better left to developers than greedy users like me.
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After having read many reviews and articles on the internet about the capabilities, features and benefits of owning/purchasing a chromecast, I came to the realization that it offered very few, if any, of those things after the "update". Still, I had the same question as the OP and hoped that XDA might further my education on the matter. I assumed based on the date of their post, that the OP was as up to date as I was. So, I eagerly clicked on the thread hoping to find a friendly conversation about any possible progress, hacks, developer apps or current work arounds, but instead was met by what seems to have become the standard retort for anyone that has a simple question on xda. The only question you left out was, "did you even try searching?"
Honestly, I am not trying to be ugly or smart, but it seems like xda is an appropriate place to ask questions when someone has one. While I know that it seems like many are lazy and don't bother searching, reading or educating themselves before starting a thread and wasting precious forum space, sometimes it would be great to find real answers and and friendly responses without assuming the OPs back story. There, I got that off my chest and provided nothing useful to the conversation myself and suppose I am prepared for the backlash, but I'd rather continue my search for answers to my original question. Is there anyone out there making the Chromecast dongle worth buying and in return, accepting donation money from me for their work? OK. Off my soapbox, no offense and sorry for wasting thread space that is better left to developers than greedy users like me.
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The very first post in this section is a sticky which contains a section labeled, "Apps, Mods, Fixes, Rooting, Tutorials". It has links to a bunch pertinent threads. There is a reason it's a sticky. XDA would become useless if there where multiple post a day asking about the same subject.
I was being friendly. I informed him that he could easily find the answers he is looking for with a little effort and doing so would keep the forum clean and people would be more helpful. It was obvious they where new (only three post) and I tried to offer some friendly advice that will help them in the long run. I even tweaked my wording as to not be too harsh. then I went the extra mile and answered his questions.
Right on. Any word on the SDK being freed up yet?
Let it flo... now Free