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So I got my update yesterday and like a dummy I went ahead and accepted the release.
From what I can tell so far the dial was updated to act more like a T9 dialer and it has some other sort/organize features. Exchange looks a lot like gmail app now short of mail being arranged in conversations. I'm sure you can do that but I dont. I see several new Google service apps (bloat) that I dont and probably won't use. I'm using nova launcher so I can't really report on ho the new OS works.
The biggest undesirable change I've found is that I'm having a lot of difficulty connecting to 4G. This update was suppose to address some known issues there but I only see that its made it worse. Heck, I'm almost standing next to a 4G blowtorch and have a weak 3G signal. I hope this gets fixed soon. I really dont want to root to flash a radio patch.
I have a developers edition with unlocked boot loader....anyone else having these issues?
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Factory reset and try that. I have not had one problem and my data is faster and mor consistent.
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bigmook said:
Factory reset and try that. I have not had one problem and my data is faster and mor consistent.
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i contacted verizon and they weren't much help.all i know is that there are no reported outages in my area. i'll have to call them back when i have another phone to call from.
i did contact motorola and they told me to try and do a partition wipe but that hasn't helped...would a complete factory reset do anything different than a partition wipe?
Does anyone know of a fix or app that will disable vibration (and haptic feedback universally across the phone) when unlocking through active notifications?
I love the moto x, but the way it vibrates all the time really annoys me. Friggin hate how OEMs force that into the ROMs. Thanks for any help. You all rule.
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Anyone have an idea?
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There is no way to remove the vibration from active notification
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I had the phone when it first came out and the vibration used to drive me crazy. I will say I picked it up the other day and with the KITKAT update the vibration is now barely noticeable.
It really drives me nuts too. I loathe haptic response. It just makes a slick phone feel stupid.
I'm thinking there has to be some kind of app that will override system wide haptic control. I just am unaware of it. Does anyone know of an app like that? I am rooted.
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I'm thinking more like modifying the apk to disable this. Haven't looked at it yet.
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jmill75 said:
I'm thinking more like modifying the apk to disable this. Haven't looked at it yet.
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The problem for me is that it's a Republic Wireless Moto X and I don't believe the build for it has been released or is even in the wild. If it was, getting an altered version would be my top priority.
Coming from a rooted, unlocked, CM 10.2 running LG Optimus G, having something that can't be disabled is REALLY annoying.
Thanks for the comments. If anyone knows of an app or anything else related to this, I'd be super appreciative.
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2disbetter said:
The problem for me is that it's a Republic Wireless Moto X and I don't believe the build for it has been released or is even in the wild. If it was, getting an altered version would be my top priority.
Coming from a rooted, unlocked, CM 10.2 running LG Optimus G, having something that can't be disabled is REALLY annoying.
Thanks for the comments. If anyone knows of an app or anything else related to this, I'd be super appreciative.
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I hear ya....I have the RW one too. I've never had an un-rooted Android device before. Took me a while to figure out why there were ads on stuff! I never saw them before. LOL Hopefully we'll get a safe, easy, reversible root soon, and I get get ad-blocking and Titanium Backup back!
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I hear ya....I have the RW one too. I've never had an un-rooted Android device before. Took me a while to figure out why there were ads on stuff! I never saw them before. LOL Hopefully we'll get a safe, easy, reversible root soon, and I get get ad-blocking and Titanium Backup back!
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Root exist. JCase's works just fine, and exactly as described. While I haven't checked I'm pretty sure the same reverse unroot process works on it as well. Haven't checked though.
Hopefully Motorola fixes it themselves, but a nice custom stock rom would be really nice as well. Just needs to be RW specific as they have their wifi portion hard written into the system.
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2disbetter said:
Root exist. JCase's works just fine, and exactly as described. While I haven't checked I'm pretty sure the same reverse unroot process works on it as well. Haven't checked though.
Hopefully Motorola fixes it themselves, but a nice custom stock rom would be really nice as well. Just needs to be RW specific as they have their wifi portion hard written into the system.
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I've only had the phone for 2 days, and I'm not quite brave enough to try it yet! I will eventually, once I read that more people have done it, I guess.
Sup guys I have a moto x on sprint and I'm on 4.4.2. I'm not sure if I want to root. I just heard some people getting great battery life and I'm not its just average. Maybe 3 hours screen on with 12 hours total before dead. So I think its some apps giving me wakelocks but I need root to find out now. Also app ops and/or greenify I'm sure will help. Now otherwise the phone is perfect. I'm no noob to root so I know what it is.
What I want to know is what's the easiest way to unlock boot loader, root install recovery and probably do xposed?
Then is there a way to totally revert back to stock with locked boot loader for warranty claims?
Thanks guys
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Use this guide to root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/instructions-unlocking-rooting-dev-ed-t2649738
You can flash stock firmware again but you cant relock your bootloader.
DaRkRhiNe said:
Use this guide to root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/instructions-unlocking-rooting-dev-ed-t2649738
You can flash stock firmware again but you cant relock your bootloader.
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Cool thanks. So root will cause void of warranty. I have the Motorola esp insurance. Do you think it also voids that? As a cracked screen has nothing to do with root.
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Your battery times may be completely normal.....depending on what features you leave on, apps you've installed that access those features.....screen brightness, games, how much you make/get calls, signal strength....etc...etc.
My point is, those times you get aren't necessarily cause of an issue.....could be anything above too. Root won't help on its own.....its setup and usage that determine average battery times.
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Cool thanks. So root will cause void of warranty. I have the Motorola esp insurance. Do you think it also voids that? As a cracked screen has nothing to do with root.
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Ya I agree. I'm not sure on root yet still checking app settings. Thing is all the apps on my phone are there for a reason. Don't play games and it seems all my settings are good. Im just getting awake time when my screen is off so something is happening and I can't figure it out. Is there anything without root I can use to determine the wake lock?
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r.storm85 said:
Ya I agree. I'm not sure on root yet still checking app settings. Thing is all the apps on my phone are there for a reason. Don't play games and it seems all my settings are good. Im just getting awake time when my screen is off so something is happening and I can't figure it out. Is there anything without root I can use to determine the wake lock?
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You pretty much need root to see that stuff....on kit kat anyway.
kj2112 said:
You pretty much need root to see that stuff....on kit kat anyway.
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Ya that's what I've seen. I really don't want root if I could get another 3-4 hrs of total and another hour of screen on time. And I know it all depends on usage but it seems that isn't too much to ask from this phone when its running right
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Look at all the apps you have.
Uninstall any that haven't been updated this year.
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Profit.
Basically with the restructure of kit kat apps that haven't been updated for it are causing unnecessary wakelocks, basically not closing properly.
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Look at all the apps you have.
Uninstall any that haven't been updated this year.
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Profit.
Basically with the restructure of kit kat apps that haven't been updated for it are causing unnecessary wakelocks, basically not closing properly.
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I'll take a look. Weird is I just switched to art to see how it does and my android is usage went from 20% down to 10%. And its a lot better now. Maybe art really helps on 4.2.2?
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So after all the hype for Lollipop and whatnot, I've been wondering what exactly the differences are between Lollipop and KK. Other than the theme, the lockscreen notifications (which we already have with moto display), and ART. Are there any other major differences?
Furthermore, what's the general opinion on the odds of root being achieved? I know it's more likely on KK, but is it worth waiting to update for, or should I take the Lollipop update when it's rolled out? I don't miss much coming from a rooted device, other than the firewall. Xposed would be nice but I can probably live without it.
Basically I just want to weigh my options for when the time comes.
I will wait.
Also - what can now be achieved without root?
For example:
A lot of apps now support functions that required root before
Tasker
Greenify
Etc.
Being able to disable apps somewhat replaces the need for titanium
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Is there a way to disable the updates coming from Verizon? I want my phone as "stock" as possible in case we ever get root so I'm trying to freeze the HD Calling/VoLTE update from installing but not sure if there is currently a way to do that without having root?
New to the VZ and Droid scene
I just got my Turbo and that update so far has been more than just the Volte after doing an FDR I actually noticed a little better responsiveness. I am looking into battery life now. Even without root or unlocked bootloader it is a pretty cool phone. Aside from the battery draining bloat, does anybody have big drain issues with command center after the update ( that Verizon did instore )
ccheww said:
Also - what can now be achieved without root?
For example:
A lot of apps now support functions that required root before
Tasker
Greenify
Etc.
Being able to disable apps somewhat replaces the need for titanium
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One of the main reasons I want root at this point is to disable the capacitive lights. They stay on a lot of times when they really shouldn't, like when watching movies or videos.
jal3223 said:
One of the main reasons I want root at this point is to disable the capacitive lights. They stay on a lot of times when they really shouldn't, like when watching movies or videos.
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Theres a way to disable the capacitive lights without root:
Download "Darker"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mlhg.screenfilter&hl=en
ccheww said:
Theres a way to disable the capacitive lights without root:
Download "Darker"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mlhg.screenfilter&hl=en
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Awesome! Thanks.
ccheww said:
Theres a way to disable the capacitive lights without root:
Download "Darker"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mlhg.screenfilter&hl=en
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Thanks
ccheww said:
Theres a way to disable the capacitive lights without root:
Download "Darker"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mlhg.screenfilter&hl=en
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Amazing. Thanks!
Absolutely! Every day I find a new app that replaces a need for root. If anyone else has any other similar discoveries (apps that can do things we normally needed root for) please don't hesitate!
Example: My GPS was toggled by itself once (I think through tasker), so I have high hopes that there is some way to toggle GPS without root.
-I'm trying to replicate what happened and what variables I used in tasker.
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I think this is a very good discussion. Is there any news on someone even possibly finding a root method for 4.4? I'll wait if there's any hope of root, but I haven't heard any new info regarding root or even if there is any word of someone even looking into it.
Same
Should we wait?
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Should we wait?
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I dont think you should wait to get lollipop once its released. I feel the hold up currently is because lollipop is close to getting released thats its pointless to release a root method now. After the first lollipop update dont i wouldnt take anymore
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Should we wait?
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Do you currently have a choice?
To those that updated to 5.1 via OTA, what's the disk speed with encryption turned on? Is it much improved over 5.0? Does it take advantage of Qualcomm's hardware?
I came here to learn the same. I have the modified boot to disable encryption, but if the new HW-based encryption is much faster, I'll happily switch back
Yes very interested in this. I am holding off on the ota since I want to keep it unencrypted and I can find out how to move to 5.1 with staying decrypted
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What app do I need? I'll check it.
Anandtech used Androbench: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8725/encryption-and-storage-performance-in-android-50-lollipop
Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andromeda.androbench2&hl=en
Here ya go.
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Darn. Still a huge hit on sequential read (mine's at 223). The rest isn't as bad a hit, though.
For comparison, here's what I just got when I ran it on 5.0.1 unencrypted.
Just ran again. Better!
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Just ran again. Better!
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Oh, much, yes! Thanks! Okay, that's encouraging...
How fast was 5.01 stock encrypted for reference?
holob said:
How fast was 5.01 stock encrypted for reference?
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...us-6-encrypted-vs-unencrypted-its-not-pretty/
For comparison - I'm also running 5.1 stock encrypted
It looks like there was a performance improvement.
Won't HW encryption still be slower than NO encryption?
Do we know for sure that HW encryption is enabled in 5.1?
Looking at some of the commit messages, I first thought that it *might* be but the more I looked at the code, the more it looked like they did a lot of prep work but actually kept it disabled (i.e. we're still software-only).
I could be wrong, though...
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Do we know for sure that HW encryption is enabled in 5.1?
Looking at some of the commit messages, I first thought that it *might* be but the more I looked at the code, the more it looked like they did a lot of prep work but actually kept it disabled (i.e. we're still software-only).
I could be wrong, though...
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Really hard to judge. But either way, it's clearly improved. Less fast than NO encryption, much faster than before. Sounds like that's PROBABLY due to hardware.
Either way, I do have to say that so far my phone's performing better. Not merely subjectively. A game I play (Spider-Man Unlimited) was impossibly laggy before. It was known for having lag issues, but on my Nexus 5 and 6, post-Lollipop, it was nearly unplayable. In the short time I've been running 5.1, it's been a dramatic improvement. So even if encryption does cause a small hit, other improvements have more than made up for it.
rub1k said:
Do we know for sure that HW encryption is enabled in 5.1?
Looking at some of the commit messages, I first thought that it *might* be but the more I looked at the code, the more it looked like they did a lot of prep work but actually kept it disabled (i.e. we're still software-only).
I could be wrong, though...
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For those that do know how (I don't), can we find out if hardware is being utilized? Perhaps through source code or logs?
Also, is encryption still forced? That is, is there any option in settings to disable encryption if encrypted, without using a modified kernel?
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Really hard to judge. But either way, it's clearly improved. Less fast than NO encryption, much faster than before. Sounds like that's PROBABLY due to hardware.
Either way, I do have to say that so far my phone's performing better. Not merely subjectively. A game I play (Spider-Man Unlimited) was impossibly laggy before. It was known for having lag issues, but on my Nexus 5 and 6, post-Lollipop, it was nearly unplayable. In the short time I've been running 5.1, it's been a dramatic improvement. So even if encryption does cause a small hit, other improvements have more than made up for it.
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What what spider man unlimited is now playable? Biggest news ever!! I'm not joking either. I've had to constantly play on my moto x instead. [emoji106] [emoji106] [emoji106]
If they moved it to hardware encryption, I may re-enable it, but would rather wait to find out...figure it is saving me some battery by having encryption disabled still.
They do mention it being enabled or added here:
http://www.androidauthority.com/android-5-1-changelog-593573/
Is there anyway to confirm that it was indeed flipped on in the code?