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[Q] Curiosity Question

Hi Guys,
I've been wondering for a few days, Sony is basically making the "Waterproof" function of this phone as the main selling point.
I'm just curious as to how the insurance and warranty is going to be affected by the water proof.
As I know most insurances claim its water damage and say its not covered.
Can they still do this with the Xperia, as its water proof?
Are warranties etc going to change incorporating the water-proof(ness).
Thanks.

It's not water-proof, it's water-resistant.

The water seals inside the phone will still void your warranty if voided, its just like a water proof camera, if YOU haven't secured your waterproof flaps/seals properly and then submerge it, then it is user error.

Wait a minute, so why the hell do they claim "Water-PROOF" whens it not.
So basically, you couldn't just wash it off like the advert.
Define RESISTANT compared to PROOF....?

??? It is water resistant, I washed my xperia z a few times now, mostly as a show of, and also spent some time in the bath with it watching....
Nevermind point is when you don't close the flaps and submerge it the sensors underneath the flaps turn red, making warranty void, but if there is water damage without the flap sensors tripping, then you are covered by warranty, some users are worried about the flaps turning red, but for me they are still white eventhough I submerged the phone in water several times now.
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bucho2004 said:
??? It is water resistant, I washed my xperia z a few times now, mostly as a show of, and also spent some time in the bath with it watching.... PPPOOORRRNNN
Nevermind point is when you don't close the flaps and submerge it the sensors underneath the flaps turn red, making warranty void, but if there is water damage without the flap sensors tripping, then you are covered by warranty, some users are worried about the flaps turning red, but for me they are still white eventhough I submerged the phone in water several times now.
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Hmm, what flaps?
Sony is deceiving me here. I though it was water-proof !!

Wilks3y said:
Hmm, what flaps?
Sony is deceiving me here. I though it was water-proof !!
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Erm... There are flaps on the phone covering every port and I'm sure the Xperia Z is advertised as water resistant. Not waterproof. It can still witstand being submerged underwater for up to 30mins and 100m though.

I guess you mean 1m and not 100m. But that would have been nice for deep sea diving.

anjath said:
I guess you mean 1m and not 100m. But that would have been nice for deep sea diving.
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Hahahah XD Yeah! My bad! Was doing Math while typing that post
Math screws up your brain.

If i am not wrong, the spec states ip7 and ip5.ip 5 would likely be water resistant while ip 7 is water proofing
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bkbatboy said:
If i am not wrong, the spec states ip7 and ip5.ip 5 would likely be water resistant while ip 7 is water proofing
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So whats the use in the flaps?
Why not just remove the flaps and then theres no chance of you messing up?
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Hahahah XD Yeah! My bad! Was doing Math while typing that post
Math screws up your brain.
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Maths obliterates your brain !!

Originally Posted by bkbatboy
If i am not wrong, the spec states ip7 and ip5.ip 5 would likely be water resistant while ip 7 is water proofing
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You are wrong, it is
IP55 = Limited dust ingress protection low pressure water jets from any direction
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IP57 = Limited dust ingress protection immersion between 15cm and 1m depth
And as long as the flaps are closed you'll be a ok.

biffsmash said:
Originally Posted by bkbatboy
If i am not wrong, the spec states ip7 and ip5.ip 5 would likely be water resistant while ip 7 is water proofing
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You are wrong, it is
IP55 = Limited dust ingress protection low pressure water jets from any direction
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IP57 = Limited dust ingress protection immersion between 15cm and 1m depth
And as long as the flaps are closed you'll be a ok.
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What the heck, I need to see one of these in real I think.
I really wanted one but now with all the talk of flaps I'm thinking twice...

go ahead and get it. this is the most rugged high end phone to date and probably for the entire year 2013. all the best.

Wilks3y said:
What the heck, I need to see one of these in real I think.
I really wanted one but now with all the talk of flaps I'm thinking twice...
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The flaps don't really disturb, To charge the phone you can use the dock, and for listening to music (if you do that a lot) you can go with bluetooth earphones.
And I've submerged my phone also in a galss of water and also took it into the shower, you should just make sure that you dry your phone before openening the flaps again, then avaerything should be fine

Great, Xperia looks like my upgrade then. May see some of you around here in a few months time when I'll be an owner
Have fun all, thanks very much for your responses.

Waterproof at the beach?

Ive seen videos of underwater in a pool works great, but how does it work at the beach in saltwater?
on the sony channel the top comment from sony does not reccomend salt water, why is that? Should that mean that somehow saltwater is different? i mean, sand should be considered dust, so it should be salt water proof
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x09iroEd63Y

Avantiel said:
Ive seen videos of underwater in a pool works great, but how does it work at the beach in saltwater?
on the sony channel the top comment from sony does not reccomend salt water, why is that? Should that mean that somehow saltwater is different? i mean, sand should be considered dust, so it should be salt water proof
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x09iroEd63Y
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Salt water corrodes metal and can damage the seals as well. It isn't recommended, but will likely be ok in small doses if you rinse it off in fresh water right after. Don't count on Sony recognizing your warranty if they find any evidence of salt water in the phone though.
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It is very clearly stated on Sony's documentation : no salt water immersion.
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[Q] lower camera quality after using it under water

Hi,
I used my Sony Xperia z1 under the water and took some great photos, however about an hour later i have noticed the quality of the photos taken is not as good anymore specially when you zoom in. i dont know what to do as my phone is out of guarantee.
thank you for your help.

egyptian_guide said:
Hi,
I used my Sony Xperia z1 under the water and took some great photos, however about an hour later i have noticed the quality of the photos taken is not as good anymore specially when you zoom in. i dont know what to do as my phone is out of guarantee.
thank you for your help.
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Could be water condensing on the inside of the lens. Can you see any water drops in there? If so, they should dry out with time

301stSpartan said:
Could be water condensing on the inside of the lens. Can you see any water drops in there? If so, they should dry out with time
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i can't see any water drops in the lens, it has been 2 weeks since i used it in water. any other suggestions ?

egyptian_guide said:
i can't see any water drops in the lens, it has been 2 weeks since i used it in water. any other suggestions ?
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If you posted some example pictures it would help. No one can give you advice without seeing your issues first hand.

egyptian_guide said:
i can't see any water drops in the lens, it has been 2 weeks since i used it in water. any other suggestions ?
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It's probably because you were in colder water that the air.
Lenses now have "fog" inside...
It's the question will it ever dry.
That shouldn't happen but it obviously did.
It wasn't sea? Right?
Seawater, of course, will damage whole device.
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funky0308 said:
It's probably because you were in colder water that the air.
Lenses now have "fog" inside...
It's the question will it ever dry.
That shouldn't happen but it obviously did.
It wasn't sea? Right?
Seawater, of course, will damage whole device.
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yea, it was sea water. so is there ANYTHING i can do??

egyptian_guide said:
yea, it was sea water. so is there ANYTHING i can do??
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After that you should washed the phone under sink. Now who knows? If the lens are clean put the phone into the rise for all night.

Uff...that's not good.
Seawater could really destroy lenses.
Could you see some micro scratches on it?
I'm not sure it's suitable for salt water, not because of the water but because of salt in it...
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egyptian_guide said:
yea, it was sea water. so is there ANYTHING i can do??
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When I had my Z I did the same thing, and had the same problem you currently have with your Z1.
I put the water on full blast in my sink, as close to "luke arm" as possible, in my attempt to get it to a "room temperature" level. I opened the Camera app and set it to auto-focus, so essentially the lense was moving up and down unable to focus, and turned screen timeout to 10 minutes. I then put the lens of the camera under the stream and left it there for ~3 minutes. Literally left the device in the sink with the plug open
Came back, dried it off, turned the device off, and left it on top of my fireplace covered in a moisture absorbing cloth (from the gym) overnight.
NOTE: My fireplace is an electric fireplace, and doesn't output heat very efficiently. The top of my fireplace is a mantle where I (during xmas) keep chocolates and similar items, which DON'T melt, so that gives you a level of temperature. I can't take any responsibility if you melt your phone or cook the screen or something.
The phone works fine now, however I've since sold it for my Z1.
EDIT: If there's scratches on the lens, go grab some regular, plain white peppermint toothpaste. None of this fancy "tartar control" or "Whitening" crap, just dollar store peppermint flavoured regular toothpaste. Take a small amount on a fiber free swab (note: different from Q-Tips), and rub slightly on the lens. Don't press into it, but do it firmly. The fiber free swab shouldn't be breaking, so use that amount of pressure. Rub for ~1 minute, and then rinse off with water and a microfiber cloth.

Not good man, Z1 is waterproof but NOT against sea water, this can oxidate the entire phone, you know when you leave the ocean and you stay with some salt particle on your body? Your phone should be with the same salt particle on the lens, try to check...

Some water on screen and camera

It seems my Xperia Z has lost water resistant feature, i dropped some water on it from my sink and result is this on attachments. Now... what can I do? if i disassemble it may i have to buy back cover? or there are other methods to drop water ?

EmeraldTimer said:
It seems my Xperia Z has lost water resistant feature, i dropped some water on it from my sink and result is this on attachments. Now... what can I do? if i disassemble it may i have to buy back cover? or there are other methods to drop water ?
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Turn your phone off open all the ports and put it in an airtight bowl of rice overnight
Hopefully, that will absorb the water

Rzr92 said:
Turn your phone off open all the ports and put it in an airtight bowl of rice overnight
Hopefully, that will absorb the water
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Done tonight but it it didn't help me. Do you think is a permanent damage or just water on LCD?

EmeraldTimer said:
Done tonight but it it didn't help me. Do you think is a permanent damage or just water on LCD?
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I think it's just water on lcd
well you can try to leave it in the bowl of rice for a day hope that fixes it

Rzr92 said:
I think it's just water on lcd
well you can try to leave it in the bowl of rice for a day hope that fixes it
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What if it doesent?

EmeraldTimer said:
What if it doesent?
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then you will have to get it repaired

My friend had this issue,the water has gone overtime.
Keep the ports open every night.
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beni8978 said:
My friend had this issue,the water has gone overtime.
Keep the ports open every night.
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I unmounted but when i was near to lcd i noticed i cant take it away without break, right?

Wow, this reminds me why I didn't even try to put my XZ under water ;o

Burag said:
Wow, this reminds me why I didn't even try to put my XZ under water ;o
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You shouldn't

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41034560
You can check my water test thread and look if you have a good device like mine you mustn't be afraid to put it underwater?
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Well do you have a warranty?
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gorandroid said:
Well do you have a warranty?
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I dont know if warranty cover this kind of things

EmeraldTimer said:
I dont know if warranty cover this kind of things
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You can start making calls on your part.

EmeraldTimer said:
I dont know if warranty cover this kind of things
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It won't. Unless you're lucky and play your cards right.

OsiBasi said:
It won't. Unless you're lucky and play your cards right.
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I also have unguled backplate and damaged (by itself) water protection on usb cover

EmeraldTimer said:
I also have unguled backplate and damaged (by itself) water protection on usb cover
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Play that card as much as possible. But it won't guarantee, why did you pour water on it if you saw the backplate was ungglued?

OsiBasi said:
Play that card as much as possible. But it won't guarantee, why did you pour water on it if you saw the backplate was ungglued?
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It became unguled after, i'm not so stupid
Anyway water is going away now, i always use opened covers near a hot source.
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EmeraldTimer said:
I dont know if warranty cover this kind of things
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Well if your Xperia Z is waterproof by it's structure i don't see why not

The device is covered by warranty if the indicators are still white, if they are red that means no warranty?
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Galaxy S5 Ultimate Water Test! You Will Be Amazed!

TechSmartt on Youtube who has already released a couple Galaxy S5 drop test videos decided to put the Galaxy S5's water resistance to the ultimate test.
Not wanting to spoil the video but it involves a pool and a washing machine and pure amazment at the end!
http://youtu.be/E9J611BuXhw
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Things like this make me want this phone so much more!

this is why i am getting this, i like my Gs4 but the waterproof is a huge bonus

Truly impressed but I have no need for this feature. I'm happy with S4.

Same here, I was astonished when I saw this. Never would have that kind of waterproof capability. Very cool!
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I think its safe to say you can submerge the S5 without any worries.
Im waiting on a salt water test since I plan on taking my phone with me when I go to the ocean and it would be great to use it in the water. I think it should be fine as long as I rinse it off with freshwater afterwards.
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msavic6 said:
I think its safe to say you can submerge the S5 without any worries.
Im waiting on a salt water test since I plan on taking my phone with me when I go to the ocean and it would be great to use it in the water. I think it should be fine as long as I rinse it off with freshwater afterwards.
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According to the S5 user manual (Page 9):
Do not expose the device to salt water, ionised water, or soapy water
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Even still, I'd love to see a test being done to see exactly how the device reacts. :good:

karmuh said:
According to the S5 user manual (Page 9):
Even still, I'd love to see a test being done to see exactly how the device reacts. :good:
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They also advise you to not submerge the S5 in water. The only reason I can see why they would not reccomend exposure to salt water is because of the seals potentially deteriorating because of the salt.
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And that washing machine test, holy smokes... I live in Florida so having a waterproof phone would be nice.
Salt will be corrosive so washing it after exposure might be okay?

Technology and water, when put together = AMAZING! Can't wait to have this.

Salt water is incredibly corrosive, and submerging in that will degrade the contacts on the headphone jack very fast. So don't go swimming in the ocean with it.
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dpwhitty11 said:
Salt water is incredibly corrosive, and submerging in that will degrade the contacts on the headphone jack very fast. So don't go swimming in the ocean with it.
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But it isnt going to happen instantly so if I am to immediately rinse with fresh water after the salt water exposure it shouldn't have any effect theoretically.
I wonder if anyone with a Z1 ever exposed it to salt water, it also has an open headphone jack so it should also technically be likely to corrode.
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Amazing!
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Yes I am amazed. I could careless for build material. This is extremely high BUILD QUALITY and engineering and thats why I love Sammy phones. The list of awards are not going to end soon lol. Now bring me the next note!!!!!!

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