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Hey all, hope everyone is doing good and had a nice weekend and enjoy the turkey day we have this week! Don't get too fat now, lol.
Anyways, I've had a chance to HEAVILY use and test Nexus 4 so I'm ready to write my review and give you impressions and what I do and don't like. I dropped 500 bills+tax $30 at T-Mobile store. They had last one in stock, I couldn't resist so I grabbed the last one. Yeah, I could of waited for Google to re-stock but I had to buy a phone for work right away, extra little extra cash laying around so it's not big of a deal. Keep in mind, before Nexus 4 I had and sold my GT-I9300 Galaxy S3 and also had Note 2 unlocked/International version. I also used/owned Galaxy Nexus.
So, first question a Galaxy Nexus user would ask if LG Nexus 4 is better than GNex. My answer to you is a thousand times YES. Its much faster, the display is better, camera is superb, built is 10x better than Galaxy Nexus. Android JellyBean 4.2 is the BEST mobile operating system, period.
Let's get one thing out there right away. Nexus 4 is without a doubt, the best phone I've ever owned. And it's coming from a Samsung fan who owned GS3/Note 2. I am really impressed with the built of this phone. And I don't know if its me but man the glass quality on this phone is ridiculous. The front glass just shines. As soon as you touch it you can feel the quality, not some cheap glass or plastic. One thing I really, really like is screen touch responsiveness. On my GS3/Note2 as soon as my finger touches screen, whatever gets touched it gets activated. With Nexus 4 you really have to AIM and PRESS what you really wanna touch and launch. This was a problem with my Note 2 and GS3. I was doing something and I accidentally would touch the screen which would screw up whatever I was doing before. So the screen on front is just amazing. The back is also nice, glossy and shiny, mostly unique due to the matrix coding underneath the glass. One problem with the back glass its extremely slippery. I bet tons of people will be breaking their Nexus 4's just because they are hard to keep in hand without a good case or a bumper which is a MUST for this phone. I don't have case nor bumper but I need to get a good one, so if someone knows a good case/bumper (quality made) please let me know. I just wish we didn't have to use case/bumper to hide the beauty of todays phones.
So the build and quality of the phone is SUPERB. But you drop this phone once and its a wrap. NEXT, I will talk about display.
Being a fan of Samsung and their screens I will say this. Nexus 4 screen is just a MILLIONS times better than any SuperAMOLED HD PenTile or Captivate display. The one and only display that will always be the best in my mind is SuperAmoled Plus. I wish Samsung made SuperAMOLED+HD now that would be a screen, but this TrueHD IPS LCD 2 Display is just much better. I compared GS3/Note2 to Nexus 4 screen quality and everything in Nexus 4 looks better. Colors are more "natural" and crisp. Also, I didn't notice any difference in BLACK/White levels between the two. But other colors Nexus 4 takes the cake. SuperAMOLED HD PenTile shows more vibrant colors but VIBRANT doesn't mean BETTER. I can have VIBRANT colors on my Samsung LED TV, but choose to display 55-60% of the color which gives it natural, realistic color where SuperAMOLED HD PenTile display feels like I have 80% or higher color on my TV. So being a fan of Samsung and SuperAMOLED screens, I can safely say TrueHD IPS LCD 2 display is just MAGICAL. You cannot see any pixels and I don't wanna mention RETINA display but Nexus 4 feels like it has Retina display with no pixels whatsoever. Being a smaller screen than GS3 text and everything else looks much sharper and I don't even want to compare it to the Note 2 considering its 5'5 inch screen with much less PPI. So the display of Nexus 4 easily stomps all over Note2/GS3 SuperAMOLED technology.
Next, sound quality. This is really personal choice but to me sound quality is nothing special in Nexus 4. Sometimes, depending on what your listening your speaker might have the robotic effect and not properly give you the high quality sound like GS3/Note would. So the sound is nothing special, medium at its best and cannot compare to GS3 and Note 2. Speaker is a lot louder than Galaxy Nexus though. If anyone knows how to enhance and better sound quality please let me know. Maybe Volume+ app could improve the overall sound quality.
Call quality is very clear and crips. I'm very impressed. Nexus 4 and GS3/Note 2 have just about the same call sound quality.
My BIGGEST problem with Nexus 4 is the battery life. Out of all phones I've used I think battery life is the worst. If you worry about battery life, I can tell you straight up, unless you plan charging your phone a lot, don't get this phone. I'm not a heavy user, have brightness to less than half, don't have many syncs but man the battery just SUCKSSSSS BALLSSSS. GS3/Note 2 ABSOLUTELY destroy Nexus 4 when it comes to battery life. And on top of all this, the battery is non removable which makes things even worse. Your battery at fully charged won't last ONE HOUR if your using GPS for an hour. My Nexus 4 was fully charged 98% and I wen't to a casino which is 1 hour away from my house. I had to use GPS and by the time I arrived at the Casino my battery was at 3% after 1 hour of GPS usage. This is just not acceptable. So the battery life on Nexus 4 is just horrible.
No LTE ? Should I buy Nexus 4 ? And my answer is IT DEPENDS. I live in Boston, and T-Mo HSPA+ is fantastic. Depending where I am, I can get 20+mbps. I have a buddy with Verizons LTE network and sometimes my HSPA+ is faster than his LTE. I have pre-paid account with T-Mo $60 everything unlim + 2gb of HSPA+ which is enough for me. So if you live in area where you get good HSPA+ speeds you won't need LTE trust me and chances are you'll have higher success finding more HSPA+ coverage than LTE anyways. So, Nexus 4 / T-Mobile doesn't have LTE but you will be more than happy with HSPA+. At least I am.
No SD Card ? Should I still buy NEXUS 4 ? Again, it all depends. If you really use sd cards and store a lot of sonds/apps or whatever than you shouldn't buy this phone. I never used SD Card so for me it doesn't matter if it has sd card or not. I use DROPBOX so I'm fine with that.
Now to some basic specs review. The phone is just GS3/Note2 on STEROIDS and Growth Hormone when it comes to speeds. Don't get fooled by benchmark scores. I was a benchmark whore before and wouldn't buy a phone if it didn't have the highest benchmark score but after doing some research I can tell you BENCHMARKS sucks and don't ever judge a phone by benchmarks and only by their quad core processors, judge it by the latest operating system. Nexus 4 is just FASTER and 10x more fluid than my GS3/Note 2. JellyBean 4.2 ProjectButter is where its all at baby. For those of you who are curious about benchmark scores I will just say I get over 5000 on Quadrant after 2nd or 3rd run. But constant score remains about 4800 and up never less. There is NO LAG at all, and everything is just SUPER SUPER smooth when opening and closing things. QuadCORE+2GB of RAM + 4.2 = heaven.
So, what score would I give it to Nexus 4. 8/10. I will take 2 points for battery life/non removable battery and one point for not having an option to use removable sc card (even though I don't use it, its still very important to the community). Everything else on this phone is just fantastic. Even with those 2 points off, I really believe Nexus 4 is the best Android phone right now. Popularity wise not, Galaxy S3/Note 2 will always be more popular and appealing just like iPhone is, but to experts and true Android fans, Nexus 4 is the best phone right now.
AND with all this said, the phone is $349/$299. This alone is better than anything Samsung/Apple have to offer.
And goodluck getting 4.2 on GS3 or Note 2.
Feel free to comment.
GPS kills my GNex too. I never really use it unless i know i am going to charge it soon.
Nice question.
Thanks for this though, good to get an unbiased review.
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Let me get this straight, one hour of GPS use killed your battery?
Even with a little sync, data always on, GPS, and half brightness the battery will suffer hugely compared to disabling data when not in use, no sync, GPS off, and lowest brightness .
You could pull a lot better times. Still, I agree the battery seeks to be a disappointment. I believe there is a new governor introduced on the N4 because it only seems to stay at it's highest and lowest values... So with some kernels in development hopefully the. Attery gets better!
Nexus S (GSM i9020a)
AOKP (Milestone 1 - 4.1.2)
Matrix Kernel (24.0 - CFS)
Ondemmand (Screen On) (800/100)
Wheatley (Screen Off) (400/100)
Deep Idle (N/A - Deadline)
BLX (N/A - Inverted Apps)
Black Exodus (Stock Voltage)
dieselfatal said:
Nexus 4 screen is just a MILLIONS times better than any SuperAMOLED HD PenTile or Captivate display.
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Caps lock + exaggeration = biased
Still a nice review though.
if it wasn't for the poor battery life which i think will hugely improve with an update from Google, would you choose the Nexus 4 over the Note 2? i am asking because i will paying the price of the Note 2 on this Nexus since i don't have Google Play in my country.
Anubis007 said:
if it wasn't for the poor battery life which i think will hugely improve with an update from Google, would you choose the Nexus 4 over the Note 2? i am asking because i will paying the price of the Note 2 on this Nexus since i don't have Google Play in my country.
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Nexus. Just wait, once developers start popping out kernels the battery will be better. I've even seen people currently pull 4-5+ hours screen time in 18-22 hours.
Nexus S (GSM i9020a)
AOKP (Milestone 1 - 4.1.2)
Matrix Kernel (24.0 - CFS)
Ondemmand (Screen On) (800/100)
Wheatley (Screen Off) (400/100)
Deep Idle (N/A - Deadline)
BLX (N/A - Inverted Apps)
Black Exodus (Stock Voltage)
you must have a rogue app or something...killing a full battery with gps on for just 1 hour doesn't sound right
Anubis007 said:
if it wasn't for the poor battery life which i think will hugely improve with an update from Google, would you choose the Nexus 4 over the Note 2? i am asking because i will paying the price of the Note 2 on this Nexus since i don't have Google Play in my country.
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Nexus 4 is a better phone FOR ME and what it has to offer. I had Note 2 before and yes the screen size is nice and all and the S Pen features but Nexus 4 is just better. Faster, snappier and its fast in a good way I cant describe it. And the display cannot be compared. But you will suffer with poor battery life non removable and no SD. This can be fixed. Charge battery more and use DropCloud.
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Dropbox I meant. DropCloud where did I get this from hahaha
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My 2 year old Galaxy S with slimbean 3 owns ur nexus 4.
Seriously though, ud better wipe all the jizz off ur nexus 4 before it does any lasting damage...
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dieselfatal said:
Nexus 4 is a better phone FOR ME and what it has to offer. I had Note 2 before and yes the screen size is nice and all and the S Pen features but Nexus 4 is just better. Faster, snappier and its fast in a good way I cant describe it. And the display cannot be compared. But you will suffer with poor battery life non removable and no SD. This can be fixed. Charge battery more and use DropCloud.
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thanks, it feels good to hear that since many people call me crazy for choosing the Nexus over the Note 2. i don't care for the insane amount of storage since i am no gamer and i don't have thousand of hours of music. i just know this Nexus has a very capable hardware (including battery size) and that's all what matters i guess.
Seems legit thanks for review
knuckles1978 said:
My 2 year old Galaxy S with slimbean 3 owns ur nexus 4.
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Except.. not at all.
Great review I am loving mine also.
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knuckles1978 said:
My 2 year old Galaxy S with slimbean 3 owns ur nexus 4.
Seriously though, ud better wipe all the jizz off ur nexus 4 before it does any lasting damage...
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Please dont hijack my thread with negative comments bro. This is Nexus 4 section. I make good money so I rock with whatevers the best. Had Note 2 and GS3 was impressed. Nexus 4 dethroned em both. Move on.
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Anubis007 said:
if it wasn't for the poor battery life which i think will hugely improve with an update from Google, would you choose the Nexus 4 over the Note 2? i am asking because i will paying the price of the Note 2 on this Nexus since i don't have Google Play in my country.
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If you are paying the same amount gor both phones. Note 2 is a much better and more powerful phone. Pure Android experience is great and all but the features of Note 2 is worth more than just that.
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knuckles1978 said:
My 2 year old Galaxy S with slimbean 3 owns ur nexus 4.
Seriously though, ud better wipe all the jizz off ur nexus 4 before it does any lasting damage...
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A wild Samsung fanboy appeared!
I just watched this interesting video.
youtube.com/watch?v=YRpzR6gONXE&list=UUB4dWKbwgl3U3ohBmrT7k3w&index=5
It shows the galaxy s3 running smoother frame rates on grand theft auto, which is odd as on paper the Nexus 4 should be faster.
What are your thoughts guys?
Its gotta be 4.2 android. Gs3 does not run 4.2 and both the n4 and n10 have very low heat thresholds. Google needs to fix these issues.
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It's called not being optimized for android 4.2 add well as the processor and gpu
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S3 = $549
N4 = $349
Is it $200 better? Probably not.
Nexus 4>other phones.
S3? DNA? RAZR MAXX? Note 2?
None of them. In terms of value per dollar, hardware and software performance. Not to mention when you consider that for the most part a smartphone is only as good as the software it's running. With all things considered there won't be a "better" phone till the next Nexus is released.
The Galaxy Nexus is still much "better" than most phones around because of the reason stated above. Sure it's hardware is a bit "dated" but it's software is still worlds above many current top phones "old" version of Android, with their ugly overlays.
Probably doesn't support the Adreno 320 yet that's all.
They should test it with an Optimus G, see if it's software related or thermal throttling.
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[DISCUSSION] Google Nexus 4 vs any other phone
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Thinking of upgrading, a friend offered to buy my Galaxy Nexus and so I was thinking of selling it(for U.S.$150) and buying an N4. Is there $150 worth of difference in the two? I have never seen an N4 in the wild, so I have no frame of reference. The added bonus is my friend would be switching from an iPhone 4 so we'd be gaining a convert LOL. As far as ROMS and Unlocking/Rooting how is the N4? It's SUPER easy with the GNex of course, same with the N4?
I've owned both, in all honesty I preferred the galaxy nexus
The n4 is nice, but ruined by the fact that it's battery lasts 10 seconds, even with custom kernels
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Eh I say neither. The leaked lg device is likely the opt g2, which will obviously lead to a rebranded nexus 5. I like the g2's design, so I say wait for Google I/o for any leaks.
If you must have one then get the n4.
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I've owned both. Even when on a bad kernel/rom combo and having problems, the n4 battery life is still significantly better for me. Color tuning can get the screen pretty dang close to the amoled saturation.
3473 said:
I've owned both, in all honesty I preferred the galaxy nexus
The n4 is nice, but ruined by the fact that it's battery lasts 10 seconds, even with custom kernels
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3hrs screen on time is average for the N4.. Hardly 10 seconds and hardly anything to complain about either considering the hardware in the thing.
3473 said:
I've owned both, in all honesty I preferred the galaxy nexus
The n4 is nice, but ruined by the fact that it's battery lasts 10 seconds, even with custom kernels
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Mine lasts 15 seconds, booooy!
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Galaxy Nexus used is worth more than $150.
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Galaxy Nexus used is worth more than $150.
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I have to agree with the above statement. I still see GNexi selling for $200-$250. If you're cutting your friend a deal that's one thing. If not, don't short change yourself.
I've owned both, and my opinion is the GNex feels better in hand. The N4 will have a longer upgrade time as the GNex hardware slowly becomes obsolete.
I would say pick up the N4. If nothing else for having a new shiny toy to play with.
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3473 said:
I've owned both, in all honesty I preferred the galaxy nexus
The n4 is nice, but ruined by the fact that it's battery lasts 10 seconds, even with custom kernels
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I don't know how long the GNex's battery lasted but on PA with the calibrated kernel that comes with it (if I'm not mistaken that is essentially just the stock kernel) I had 24 hours with 2 hours screen on time (lowest brightness) and still 20% left. If that's not good enough for you then you'll need to buy a phone with a huge stock battery or the ability to swap out an extended battery.
3473 said:
I've owned both, in all honesty I preferred the galaxy nexus
The n4 is nice, but ruined by the fact that it's battery lasts 10 seconds, even with custom kernels
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That's wrong, I've owned both too and the battery is a tad better on the N4. With custom rom and kernel I was averaging 3.5 hours of SOT with the GNex, but I get around 4 hours on the N4 all stock and no root.
10 seconds?? Am I reading it right?
Its around 5 hours screen on time with franco kernel
In terms of pure performance, the N4 is really good. It has the same GPU as the Galaxy S4, HTC one, Sony xperia Z etc etc etc. This means that most games will be optimized for these phones, and the N4 should age well. IF you are into games this could be worth considering. If not, I've seen the galaxy nexus with jellybean and it was very smooth indeed - so it's not like performance lacks with that phone.
The screen will look very "dimm"/undersaturated compared to your galaxy nexus. I personally used some "saturated" pre-set and calibrated the screen to 2.2 gamma on RGB - and I subjectivly think the screen looks amazing now (day and night difference between stock settings and calibrated). Requires root i believe!
Battery life is just fine for me (~4h screen-on-time) with franco.kernel. I don't have any complaints, but i know many others do. So you should compare what you get with the galaxy nexus and see what people with the N4 get.
Danny.ns said:
In terms of pure performance, the N4 is really good. It has the same GPU as the Galaxy S4, HTC one, Sony xperia Z etc etc etc. This means that most games will be optimized for these phones, and the N4 should age well. IF you are into games this could be worth considering. If not, I've seen the galaxy nexus with jellybean and it was very smooth indeed - so it's not like performance lacks with that phone.
The screen will look very "dimm"/undersaturated compared to your galaxy nexus. I personally used some "saturated" pre-set and calibrated the screen to 2.2 gamma on RGB - and I subjectivly think the screen looks amazing now (day and night difference between stock settings and calibrated). Requires root i believe!
Battery life is just fine for me (~4h screen-on-time) with franco.kernel. I don't have any complaints, but i know many others do. So you should compare what you get with the galaxy nexus and see what people with the N4 get.
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The S4 and HTC One have a Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 cpu. The N4 and Xperia Z have a Qualcomm S4 Pro cpu
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The S4 and HTC One have a Qualcomm 600 cpu. The N4 and Xperia Z have a Qualcomm S4 Pro cpu
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Yes, I wrote GPU mate. That is, the graphics card of the SoC. They all have the same Adreno320.
Also, I might add, the difference in architecture between the S4 Pro and 600 is minimal. What runs fast on the 600 will run fast on the S4 Pro as well.
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Yes, I wrote GPU mate. That is, the graphics card of the SoC. They all have the same Adreno320.
Also, I might add, the difference in architecture between the S4 Pro and 600 is minimal. What runs fast on the 600 will run fast on the S4 Pro as well.
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You`re right, misread that. Haven`t been up for so long .
I have them both and if you enjoy playing games don't even think about it. Now I can use the phone as a game console and it is just amazing. Believe me or not, I even prefer it's IPS screen. When I look back at my gnex I can see pixels due to its pentile distribution and I just don't like anymore it's over saturated display. It's a matter of getting use to it I imagine... When you first have it in your hands you really miss it but after some days you love it.
You've got a TOP phone for many years with this. And gpu is even compatible with the upcoming OPENGL 3.0
Let's see what Google IO brings in a couple of days.
Regarding the battery, it's non removable battery is a drawback. Got around 3:30 hours SOT with stock or performance kernels as trinity. But franco kernel is just awesome. Easily getting nearly 5 hours of screen time out of it and performance boosts just when needed in a very smart way.
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Please use the Nexus 4 vs. Any other phone thread that can be found in the sticky rollup thread.
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Nothing wrong with dreaming or imagining but I say let's keep it as realistic as we can though.
What would you like to see in the next Gen Google Nexus phone?
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either more internal memory or a microsd slot. Perhaps USB OTG if the first 2 aren't an option. That's it.
-Slightly bigger display
- S800 ( most likely)
- 16 gig minimum
- LTE capable
- KLP
- Better camera
A keyboard that automatically changes "u" to you and doesn't capitalize the first letter in every word.
Built in chrome cast.
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--Either 32 gigs of internal storage or 16 gigs with expansion.
--A slightly larger screen of preferrably 5 inches and 1080p resolution.
--Last but not least, a better camera.
Oh yes, a 1080p HD is display would be sweet. I prefer IPS/LCD over Super Amoled. Just overall looks better to me.
My list:
Full HD display (1080p)
16GB w/expandable SD slot and/or 32GB models. I feel 8GB is just unacceptable.
Better camera lens/optics
Decent sounding speakers.
Good wireless radios
4G LTE !!
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1440P OLED 4.995"
8-A53's 1.8Ghz
2GB DDR4
LTE-Adv
16/32/64/128GB internal
SGX Rogue MP3
Dual-core DSP NLP+Audio contextual
3500maH battery
13MP camera+zero shutter lag+auto HDR+Super ZOOM
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-Slightly bigger display
- S800 ( most likely)
- 16 gig minimum
- LTE capable
- KLP
- Better camera
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32gb should be minimum
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A keyboard that automatically changes "u" to you and doesn't capitalize the first letter in every word.
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Nice trolling haha ??
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What others said and A phone that has better heat management and not have the vertical line when the device is heated
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Google will never put in expandable card slots.. NON of the nexus line does, not even the Moto X... lol
Thank Me Later said:
Nothing wrong with dreaming or imagining but I say let's keep it as realistic as we can though.
What would you like to see in the next Gen Google Nexus phone?
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Unibody waterproof build
3200mAh battery
24+ mega pixel back camera with optical zoom
8 mega pixel front camera
5" Super Amoled display with full 1080p
16gb min storage, 32gb option or
16gb + ejectable expandable microsd
snapdragon 600 quad core
Better thermal insulation
Upgraded Radio hardware
4g capability
Front speakers with better range(or higher compression ratios) (why did they have one speaker on the bottom back in the first place)
More usable screen! Im talking almost corner to corner
Not all of that is too far fetched
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I'd like more flexibility on USB port, i.e. support for media storage and support for USB audio (to be able to use an USB mic). An audio wake up function as the Moto X has would also be nice.
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Google will never put in expandable card slots.. NON of the nexus line does, not even the Moto X... lol
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The Nexus One had one Anyways, I do not see expandable memory coming back either. But if we get at least a 32GB I'd be happy
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I think they should build in a much bigger battery, this is one of the biggest problems of the n4!
But as said before a better camera (at least 12 mp) would be great me too.
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Qualcomm 600/800 cpu
Adreno 330 gpu
1080 screen
32GB storage
13 MP camera with xenon flash.
Ace42 said:
1440P OLED 4.995"
8-A53's 1.8Ghz
2GB DDR4
LTE-Adv
16/32/64/128GB internal
SGX Rogue MP3
Dual-core DSP NLP+Audio contextual
3500maH battery
13MP camera+zero shutter lag+auto HDR+Super ZOOM
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Will cost a thousand bucks then
A better camera
Better mic that records clear audio when taking video, even at concerts
More storage
Better battery life
And incorporate wifi calling into the next version of Android
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what i would like to see from the next nexus...that is simple. 4" inches phone
Motorola,
16gb,
LTE,
13 mp camera,
720p screen,
slimmer,
more durable body,
dual speakers,
longer battery life
faster processor
....at $300 I think google should stick with a better quality 720p amoled screen and save money. I had the s4 and the difference in resolution is imperceptible to the eye. There is ZERO need for a battery and resource hogging 1080p display at the moment.
However, the big surprise will be the next version of android with Key Lime Pie 4.4 . It will obviously be always on and alert via google now. It would also provide low power instant view. I am tired of these Jellybean updates and ready for another leap in android technology with a universal message replacement, camera suite, and a fresh set of color with sharp tones throughout. The dull blue of ics is getting boring. Widgets will become more streamlined, with less pages on the homescreen. Active alerts on icons too. Maybe an advanced touchscreen capability with airview (like the s4) could be integrated as stock and provide more support in apps.
These are all very realistic and practical expectations I think. Expect the design philosophy as a mix between the moto x and the nexus 7 vertical logo. I just bought the nexus 4 today ,but I can already see the nexus 5 being a great hit. (with a 5" screen??)
Hello guys,
in several sites I see people talking about the Moto X, many classify it as a octa-core smartphone (dual-core 1.7ghz Krait processor + single-core contextual computing + single-core natural language processor + quad-core Adreno 320 GPU).
Anyway... below is a link to a document which (as I understand it) itself Qualcomm explains that Adreno 320 of our N4 is also quad-core, in other words the N4 can also be considered a octa-core smartphone (of this view point).
I am raising this topic, due to the fact that the launch of the Moto X generated a great noise, which in my humble opinion is exaggerated due to the fact that it does not innovated much. And of course it has come with a price quite salty for your hardware configuration.
Link: http://www.qualcomm.com/media/releases/2011/02/14/qualcomm-announces-next-generation-snapdragon-mobile-chipset-family
If anyone has interest in manifest, feel free!
The Moto X does innovate, but not within the geeks and processor whores...
It inovates in having the always "on" mic dedicated chip, the Moto Maker, the active notifications...
In many times innovation does not come in form of faster processors...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021559
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The moto x would have been a great phone at a nexus price. The screen is the densest non-pentile AMOLED screen out there that I'm aware of. But the price is how it generated all that hype, the price rumors buoyed everything else. By the time the real price surfaced, there were already a bunch of low information followers in the mass market who were fascinated by the colors and motomaker, and didn't know much else. That's where the x8 branding came in handy, making it seem to these folks like a higher end device. It's not bad, those two cpu cores are krait 300 while our 4 are krait 200. Unless you're using some form of windowed or multiscreen (doing one thing on phone while streaming another to HDTV) multitasking, it's probably a wash between the two.
All things being equal, I'd rather have the moto x. At more than double the price (16gb n4 $250 vs 16gb Moto x $575), all things are definitely not equal.
This is exactly why I am a huge fan of AMOLED and I'm extremely surprised it's not being capitalized on more.
We don't need the pixel density all the time. We don't need the entire 4.7" screen all the time. With amoled, we could potentially see huge battery savings. I wouldn't mind texting in half-res.
ziddey said:
This is exactly why I am a huge fan of AMOLED and I'm extremely surprised it's not being capitalized on more.
We don't need the pixel density all the time. We don't need the entire 4.7" screen all the time. With amoled, we could potentially see huge battery savings. I wouldn't mind texting in half-res.
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AMOLED screens have a very high change of screen burn. And it tends to deteriorate faster. Also the colours are too saturated for my taste. But can't argue with the battery saving part of it. Anyway I would prefer a IPS screen anyday.
sandy-achar said:
AMOLED screens have a very high change of screen burn. And it tends to deteriorate faster. Also the colours are too saturated for my taste. But can't argue with the battery saving part of it. Anyway I would prefer a IPS screen anyday.
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This.
sandy-achar said:
AMOLED screens have a very high change of screen burn. And it tends to deteriorate faster. Also the colours are too saturated for my taste. But can't argue with the battery saving part of it. Anyway I would prefer a IPS screen anyday.
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I'd like AMOLED just for battery saving, but I definitely prefer IPS too
Amoled screens really are very saturated, colors like yellow and gray often appear greenish/orange, whatever.
I think the IPS screens are closer to reality, though when you have the brightness at maximum, are desaturated.
I had a couple devices with amoled. I definitely don't think there's any battery savings with those panels
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Smallsmx3 said:
I had a couple devices with amoled. I definitely don't think there's any battery savings with those panels
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Right, in current usages, there really isn't. The "best" that has been done to accomodate them was the dark status bar / theme starting in Gingerbread. Otherwise, bright/colorful images will actually consume more than a traditional LCD backlight.
What I would like to see are reduced usage modes-- by effectively lowering the pixel density / resolution, say by disabling every other set of RGB, power consumption could effectively be halved. I would have no problem with say a green-only half-res mode for texting.
I guess though the issue is "how often am I texting" vs "how often am I doing something else that would benefit from a full-fledged display"
I could imagine a power-saving e-reader mode being useful...
Counting GPU cores is nonsense. The moto x is a dual core and the nexus 4 is a quad. Period end of story.
And Samsung's PR strikes again. Amoled screens don't save power.
albundy2010 said:
Counting GPU cores is nonsense. The moto x is a dual core and the nexus 4 is a quad. Period end of story.
And Samsung's PR strikes again. Amoled screens don't save power.
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I do like the wide viewing angle, super deep black, and wide color gamut though (just need to be calibrated correctly like a wide gamut monitor). I agree I don't see a difference in battery life.
I avoid Motorola for their locked bootloader and poor updates though.
eksasol said:
I avoid Motorola for their locked bootloader and poor updates though.
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This is what kept me away from the Moto X and when the N4 price dropped to $199 it was a no brainer.
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eksasol said:
I avoid Motorola for their locked bootloader and poor updates though.
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N4 gonna be my first non Motorola Phone. #LetTheModdingBegin
TreatnHerRight said:
N4 gonna be my first non Motorola Phone. #LetTheModdingBegin
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You've been depriving yourself. I like their build quality and battery life (from what I hear), but I refuse to get a phone that's almost guaranteed to never have the bootloader unlocked.
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But the Moto X has a locked bootloader?!
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Counting GPU cores is nonsense. The moto x is a dual core and the nexus 4 is a quad. Period end of story.
And Samsung's PR strikes again. Amoled screens don't save power.
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But, but the Tegra 4 has 72 GPU cores so it's better than everything, even a single core titan.
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Ace42 said:
But, but the Tegra 4 has 72 GPU cores so it's better than everything, even a single core titan.
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Actually Titan has 2688 CUDA cores btw...
Xmaster8 said:
Actually Titan has 2688 CUDA cores btw...
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Owned!
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