[Q] Unlocked bootloader with working X-Reality - Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

How do I check if my DRM keys are still there?
From what I can see one my phone, the X-Reality is working fine on my videos and pics, also I am able to download music info.
This is after unlocking bootloader from a partially rooted .290 and flashing CWM Recovery+root and 136 firmware.

You already asked for yourself... Why you made this thread?
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Are you saying on .136 they fix also the features like X-Reality, Bionz and Bravia? This will be great.

redkelah said:
How do I check if my DRM keys are still there?
From what I can see one my phone, the X-Reality is working fine on my videos and pics, also I am able to download music info.
This is after unlocking bootloader from a partially rooted .290 and flashing CWM Recovery+root and 136 firmware.
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If you have unlocked bootloader...why would you have a partial root ?!!
are you sure that the bootloader is unlocked?
U seem to be on the stock kernel..which is resonsible for the x-reality and Bionz stuff

pranii23 said:
U seem to be on the stock kernel..which is resonsible for the x-reality and Bionz stuff
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..but even on Stock will not work that stuff without DRM keys, to me just weird.

unlocked bootloader with x-reality and music info ok
pranii23 said:
If you have unlocked bootloader...why would you have a partial root ?!!
are you sure that the bootloader is unlocked?
U seem to be on the stock kernel..which is resonsible for the x-reality and Bionz stuff
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Partial root on .290 was because I did the root .534 then update via OTA to .290
Sick of partial root as it did not allow me to edit the build.prop or other system files.
So decided easiest way was to unlock bootloader on .290 and then flash stock .136 firmware (singapore Singtel) with the CWM kernel from doomlordz. actually I did restore my TA backup from .290 and soft-brick phone so reflash firmware to startup, then unlock bootloader again.. but second time I did not let the phone reboot after unlock bootloader the second time, just disconnect from USB and reconnect again in fastboot mode. Maybe thats why didnt give it a chance to wipe the DRM keys away?
I am puzzled also as I managed to download music info via Wifi and also option to tick/untick X-reality engine is still there.

redkelah said:
I am puzzled also as I managed to download music info via Wifi and also option to tick/untick X-reality engine is still there.
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Take a screen shot with X reality on and off. Compare them in gallery. The option to check and uncheck x reality will be there in locked or unlocked bootloader but it wont work on custom kernel. I wish I was wrong.

Interesting, I have my Z1 unlocked/rooted, I think that X-Reality is working (enabled in Display Settings) but how do I know if the Bionz and/or DRM keys are present and functional? Running iHacker 2.1 ROM.
BTW, I had downgraded to unlock (and backup up TA partition) and then flashed iHackers based on .290 based iHackers.

opposite of urs !! my X-reality was working on .290 UL
for me X-reality was working well on .290 UL without DRM keys .. then I relocked my phone and sure that makes my phone not booting So I updated my xpeira via pc companion to .136 and I totally lost X-Reality effect on both of videos and photos !! ...
after that I followed the steps on this thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z/themes-apps/bravia-engine-2-restore-4-1-4-2-4-3-t2610923
so I restored my X-Reality but it's working only on photos now.. Not working on movies like .290 before and I'm sure about that
so weird !! .. for me the opposite !! X-reality was working well on .290 UL

Hani88 said:
for me X-reality was working well on .290 UL without DRM keys .. then I relocked my phone and sure that makes my phone not booting So I updated my xpeira via pc companion to .136 and I totally lost X-Reality effect on both of videos and photos !! ...
after that I followed the steps on this thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z/themes-apps/bravia-engine-2-restore-4-1-4-2-4-3-t2610923
so I restored my X-Reality but it's working only on photos now.. Not working on movies like .290 before and I'm sure about that
so weird !! .. for me the opposite !! X-reality was working well on .290 UL
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but now after few reboots X-Reality is working on movies now !!!!

regarding x reality after bootloader unlock
hi guys..i have unlocked my bootloader on xperia z1 without TA backup and i have lost DRM keys.
after that X reality stopped working..but i found a new patch that makes Xreality work without TA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2642608
i have seen the Xreality effect in the album only but not in the videos..can u please check it out and help me if there is any other solution that i could go for???
suggestions are welcome
thanks in advance

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[Q] Rooting Xperia Z - Bravia engine..

I have heard that rooting xperia Z would lead to loss of Bravia Engine functionality and Track ID too, is it correct ?
I am thinking to root my phone.
akss009 said:
I have heard that rooting xperia Z would lead to loss of Bravia Engine functionality and Track ID too, is it correct ?
I am thinking to root my phone.
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It's all good now. If you backup your TA partition first before you unlock the BL you can flash the keys back and BE2 will work again. You can read the tutorial here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2234627
akss009 said:
I have heard that rooting xperia Z would lead to loss of Bravia Engine functionality and Track ID too, is it correct ?
I am thinking to root my phone.
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rooting isn't the problem, but unlocking the bootloader. luckily there is a way to root your phone without unlocking the BL, but keep in mind: you can't install custom firmware with a locked bootloader (only sony based ROMs or ROM-modifications)
akss009 said:
I have heard that rooting xperia Z would lead to loss of Bravia Engine functionality and Track ID too, is it correct ?
I am thinking to root my phone.
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If you unlock your bootloader then you lose the Bravia Engine, however Track id isn't in the same category as that and will be unaffected.
There are much better replacements to Track ID anyway in the Play Store.
FSN said:
rooting isn't the problem, but unlocking the bootloader. luckily there is a way to root your phone without unlocking the BL, but keep in mind: you can't install custom firmware with a locked bootloader (only sony based ROMs or ROM-modifications)
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all of that doesn't matter anymore though. SInce you can get your DRM keys back and your XZ's BL will be locked again once you flash back your own TA image.
So for now i am going only for root without unlocking BL
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akss009 said:
So for now i am going only for root without unlocking BL
Sent from my C6602
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You can do what you want. Unlock the BL or not. If you backup your TA partition first you can do anything. As long as you backup your TA partition first before you unlock the BL. But if you really don't want to unlock the BL that is your call too.
shadowboy23 said:
all of that doesn't matter anymore though. SInce you can get your DRM keys back and your XZ's BL will be locked again once you flash back your own TA image.
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that's true, but maybe he just wants the root
FSN said:
that's true, but maybe he just wants the root
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Yes, maybe that's all he wants for now. Just letting the OP know that losing your DRM keys and BE2 not working anymore is yesterdays news. So the OP can do what he wants without the fear of losing the DRM keys and BE2 not working.
Thanks for your suggestion guys, since I am new to Sony so Just want to root for now and play around with stock ui, until i get bored
P.S. - Got my xperia Z last saturday , before that had Galaxy S2, and i have flashed it more than a 100 or 200 times till it went dead, dont remember.
There is a root method without unlocking your BL http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2186368
I've tested this method with my locked BL, that works like a charm.

[Q] Confused about keeping DRM & BE2

Hi there, ive came all the way here from the Defy turf and im really confused about flashing my new xperia z. ive tried my best reading the tutorials but it seems to be alot harder to flash the xperia z with proper backup, i mean i used to flash my Defy pretty much everyday without worrying much.
So my question is very basic.. btw I have root my xperia z through the "[Exploit by: goroh_kun & huhka_com]" method, and the bootloader is unlocked.
1. Is it possible to backup my unlocked stock Xperia Z with DRM & BE2? i know there are both twrp and cwm, but ive heard that once I "flash" my phone I will loose everything even with the SD card... (i mean when u talk about flash, there are tons of file types u can flash such as img, rar, zip etc and also tons of ways to flash, so which way to flash is the best without loosing eveything?)
And if yes, is there a step by step guide about how to use the flashtool? (i know there are million posts about what a flashtool is, but what i need is a step by step on how to install/flash cwm or twrp on an unlocked stock xperia z with DRM & BE2.) I mean I would like to be able restore if I dont like the custom roms.
2. does upgrading from the Sony update wipe out all data? i mean for the future 4.2 update can I just update without loosing from what I have at the moment (an unlocked and root stock xperia z)?
sorry to ask all these basic questions, but ive been searching alot with no clear answers...
thanks!:good:
unloadefy said:
Hi there, ive came all the way here from the Defy turf and im really confused about flashing my new xperia z. ive tried my best reading the tutorials but it seems to be alot harder to flash the xperia z with proper backup, i mean i used to flash my Defy pretty much everyday without worrying much.
So my question is very basic.. btw I have root my xperia z through the "[Exploit by: goroh_kun & huhka_com]" method, and the bootloader is unlocked.
1. Is it possible to backup my unlocked stock Xperia Z with DRM & BE2? i know there are both twrp and cwm, but ive heard that once I "flash" my phone I will loose everything even with the SD card... (i mean when u talk about flash, there are tons of file types u can flash such as img, rar, zip etc and also tons of ways to flash, so which way to flash is the best without loosing eveything?)
And if yes, is there a step by step guide about how to use the flashtool? (i know there are million posts about what a flashtool is, but what i need is a step by step on how to install/flash cwm or twrp on an unlocked stock xperia z with DRM & BE2.) I mean I would like to be able restore if I dont like the custom roms.
2. does upgrading from the Sony update wipe out all data? i mean for the future 4.2 update can I just update without loosing from what I have at the moment (an unlocked and root stock xperia z)?
sorry to ask all these basic questions, but ive been searching alot with no clear answers...
thanks!:good:
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uh bro. as soon as your bootloader is unlocked, DRM keys are GONE FOREVER. Unlocking your bootloader wipes everything too. by everything i mean your photos, music etc as well.
secondly, some updates might wipe data, and some don't
spazzy1912 said:
uh bro. as soon as your bootloader is unlocked, DRM keys are GONE FOREVER. Unlocking your bootloader wipes everything too. by everything i mean your photos, music etc as well.
secondly, some updates might wipe data, and some don't
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thanks for the reply. but i dont really understand, because I still have BE2 and track ID working, how do I check if I still have my DRM keys? i know i have an unlocked bootloader through *#*#7378423#*#* but i dont remember unlocking my phone apart from using the [Exploit by: goroh_kun & huhka_com] method to root my XZ. Can a XZ come unlocked from a Sony Retail store?
unloadefy said:
thanks for the reply. but i dont really understand, because I still have BE2 and track ID working, how do I check if I still have my DRM keys? i know i have an unlocked bootloader through *#*#7378423#*#* but i dont remember unlocking my phone apart from using the [Exploit by: goroh_kun & huhka_com] method to root my XZ. Can a XZ come unlocked from a Sony Retail store?
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You're not confusing unlocked and unlockable are you?
The only way to unlock the bootloader that I'm aware of involves getting an unlock code emailed to you from Sony via their official unlocking website.
While the bootloader is unlocked you will not be able to update to a new official Sony ROM either OTA or via their provided PC/Mac software tools.
Locking & unlocking the bootloader is explained clearly here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2153261
The bootloader will be locked on all new, unopened XZs
regardless of place of purchase, a phone purchased from Sony will (should) be carrier unlocked however.
Nameless One said:
You're not confusing unlocked and unlockable are you?
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Now I get it, so I simply have a rooted locked (but unlockable) Xperia Z~
it looks like everything makes sense now:good:
Thanks so much!
just one more question, does twrp or cwm recovery backs up everything including drm keys BE2 and etc? or do I have to go through this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2234627
unloadefy said:
just one more question, does twrp or cwm recovery backs up everything including drm keys BE2 and etc? or do I have to go through this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2234627
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That I don't know and will have to defer to others.
unloadefy said:
Now I get it, so I simply have a rooted locked (but unlockable) Xperia Z~
it looks like everything makes sense now:good:
Thanks so much!
just one more question, does twrp or cwm recovery backs up everything including drm keys BE2 and etc? or do I have to go through this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2234627
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nope, recoveries dont back up your drm keys.
you have to use the Backup TA tool that was posted, this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2234627
Remember, ALWAYS, MD5 sum check before flashing, flashing someone else's or corrupted TA will HARD BRICK your device,
spazzy1912 said:
nope, recoveries dont back up your drm keys.
you have to use the Backup TA tool that was posted, this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2234627
Remember, ALWAYS, MD5 sum check before flashing, flashing someone else's or corrupted TA will HARD BRICK your device,
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Very helpful information indeed! Thank you!!
Problems Solved

[Q] Unlocked bootloader : Disadvantages?

Tried searching, but didn't find a clear answer to the disadvantages of unlocking bootloader for Sony Xperia SP.
Am really interested in unlocking bootloader, mainly coz I am a fan of CyanogenMod ROM's.
If an when CM arrives for SP, I will have to unlock bootloader.
If some doubts are cleared, will unlock it right away. May be.
Few questions, simply answered would really be appreciated.
1. We lose DRM is sure, but can we manage to add DRM keys back on unlocked bootloader?
2. Do we lose Bravia Engine 2?
3. Do we lose front camera?
4. Any other disadvantages? Or something I need to know?
Thanks!
1. Yes, backup TA: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598
2. Yes (unless you follow step 1). I prefer not having bravia engine because I noticed it made pictures taken by our camera look a million times more noisy
3. Well that's just a weird thing to lose... No we don't
4. Not really... Apart from the warranty void stuff of course
Not sure if you need to unlock bootloader to install CM though. If they made it work with stock kernel then you won't need to unlock the bootloader, if it only works with modified kernels then yeah you have to unlock
Unfortunately I did root my phone and unlocked bootloader without paying much attention to backup TA partition and possibility to lose Bravia engine
I should have done more reading instead of rushing to root my Xperia SP
can I know what is DRM keys that have been lost ?!! and if i relock bootloader will I restore Bravia engine.
also if Bravia engine is lost, how come i still can select it in Settings --> Display
is there anyway to test if it is there or not?
Thanks.
ahmedhappy312 said:
Unfortunately I did root my phone and unlocked bootloader without paying much attention to backup TA partition and possibility to lose Bravia engine
I should have done more reading instead of rushing to root my Xperia SP
can I know what is DRM keys that have been lost ?!! and if i relock bootloader will I restore Bravia engine.
also if Bravia engine is lost, how come i still can select it in Settings --> Display
is there anyway to test if it is there or not?
Thanks.
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Yes bravia engine is lost
It still appears in settings but u will find the difrence in pictures that the bravia engine doesnt work after unlocking bl
Heres the thing guys, I unlocked bootloader on My V and J and still found Bravia working on the albums, I did not backup TA or whatsoever.
Its just placebo that it will be gone. I unlocked bL on both V and J because warranty is gone after a year.
The bravia engine only makes photographs look better on the phone. Sometimes think Sony chose less bright screen hardware just to make BE look good.
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mohits143 said:
Tried searching, but didn't find a clear answer to the disadvantages of unlocking bootloader for Sony Xperia SP.
Am really interested in unlocking bootloader, mainly coz I am a fan of CyanogenMod ROM's.
If an when CM arrives for SP, I will have to unlock bootloader.
If some doubts are cleared, will unlock it right away. May be.
Few questions, simply answered would really be appreciated.
1. We lose DRM is sure, but can we manage to add DRM keys back on unlocked bootloader?
2. Do we lose Bravia Engine 2?
3. Do we lose front camera?
4. Any other disadvantages? Or something I need to know?
Thanks!
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Hi!
I think you will find an answer of these question in this thread: link
1.Yes, you can restore the DRM keys if you made a BACKUP! Just flash stock firmware before you do that.
2.Yes, but thats only counts for stock rom.It works fine on custom roms.
3.No.
4.I dont know. My bootloader is unlocked and I have no issues so far.
I hope that helped!Press thanks if it did!
BlAckXpeRia said:
Hi!
I think you will find an answer of these question in this thread: link
1.Yes, you can restore the DRM keys if you made a BACKUP! Just flash stock firmware before you do that.
2.Yes, but thats only counts for stock rom.It works fine on custom roms.
3.No.
4.I dont know. My bootloader is unlocked and I have no issues so far.
I hope that helped!Press thanks if it did!
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Haha.. I got the reply earlier itself.
Infact unlocked bootloader long time ago.
Thanks though. Should be helpful to newbies.
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Unlocking From Official site will remove bravia engine?
mohits143 said:
Tried searching, but didn't find a clear answer to the disadvantages of unlocking bootloader for Sony Xperia SP.
Am really interested in unlocking bootloader, mainly coz I am a fan of CyanogenMod ROM's.
If an when CM arrives for SP, I will have to unlock bootloader.
If some doubts are cleared, will unlock it right away. May be.
Few questions, simply answered would really be appreciated.
1. We lose DRM is sure, but can we manage to add DRM keys back on unlocked bootloader?
2. Do we lose Bravia Engine 2?
3. Do we lose front camera?
4. Any other disadvantages? Or something I need to know?
Thanks!
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Unlocking From Official site will remove bravia engine?
Kruns said:
Unlocking From Official site will remove bravia engine?
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Yes

Features lost after unlock BL

What features are lost after unlocking bootloader?
Thanks in advance.
diego9016 said:
What features are lost after unlocking bootloader?
Thanks in advance.
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If we are talking about 4.3 version, then none.
But - maybe if someone could confirm that X-Reality will stay after unlocking and using stock/stock based ROM.
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funky0308 said:
If we are talking about 4.3 version, then none.
But - maybe if someone could confirm that X-Reality will stay after unlocking and using stock/stock based ROM.
Sent from my Z1
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Thanks for your response. I've already unlocked bootloader (Have a TA backup just in case), but I don't see any difference in the pictures. I have no idea if I still have X-Reality.
The BIONZ thing is lost after unlocking BL? Is there a way to check it?
diego9016 said:
Thanks for your response. I've already unlocked bootloader (Have a TA backup just in case), but I don't see any difference in the pictures. I have no idea if I still have X-Reality.
The BIONZ thing is lost after unlocking BL? Is there a way to check it?
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BIONZ thing?
I'm sure if you are on stock ROM - you still have X-Reality engine on.
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funky0308 said:
BIONZ thing?
I'm sure if you are on stock ROM - you still have X-Reality engine on.
Sent from my Z1
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BIONZ image processor... I read somewhere that maybe that feature is lost after unlocking BL.
diego9016 said:
BIONZ image processor... I read somewhere that maybe that feature is lost after unlocking BL.
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I'm not sure but I know that Bravia Engine was lost when we unlocked bootloader on older Xperia devices...
So it could be...
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Yes, X-Reality doesn't work after unlocking BL.
MohammadAG said:
Yes, X-Reality doesn't work after unlocking BL.
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I never saw any difference keeping x reality on and off, so it dosnt matter to me.
Hey, if you unlock and dont see any thing strange, be happy. Dont go search for missing things
Many users saying about issues when unlock BL even on 4.3. When we will unlock BL and do not missing anything?
I think we have to wait new year when custom roms will find the way.
eclyptos said:
Many users saying about issues when unlock BL even on 4.3. When we will unlock BL and do not missing anything?
I think we have to wait new year when custom roms will find the way.
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Things like X-Reality aren't easily replicated, otherwise they won't need to wipe the related keys. However, at certain times, I found the over-sharpening of X-Reality bothersome, and I switched it off.
Anyway, I don't see any issues with keeping my bootloader unlocked. I really don't miss anything, and I doubt most people would notice something's missing till they're told about it.
MohammadAG said:
Things like X-Reality aren't easily replicated, otherwise they won't need to wipe the related keys. However, at certain times, I found the over-sharpening of X-Reality bothersome, and I switched it off.
Anyway, I don't see any issues with keeping my bootloader unlocked. I really don't miss anything, and I doubt most people would notice something's missing till they're told about it.
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Yep, I think is not a big deal X-Reality Engine so it's true when we Unlock Bootloader on 4.3 we lose BIONZ Processing and X-Reality Engine?
If yes, what consequences we can have on device?
eclyptos said:
Yep, I think is not a big deal X-Reality Engine so it's true when we Unlock Bootloader on 4.3 we lose BIONZ Processing and X-Reality Engine?
If yes, what consequences we can have on device?
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Honestly, my best advice is to backup TA and unlock, see for yourself, if you're not bothered by anything then you haven't lost anything you'd miss.
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MohammadAG said:
Honestly, my best advice is to backup TA and unlock, see for yourself, if you're not bothered by anything then you haven't lost anything you'd miss.
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I will unlock now, but I already updated to 4.3 and I can't root my phone with locked BL to backup TA. I don't care about warranty, I brought the phone with intention to come on XDA an flash, so I was aware about losing warranty.
Even if I backup TA I will lose BIONZ and X-Reality anyway so backup TA to me don't make sense.
I am just worry do not lost something what I will need further time and I referring about the functionality of the device.
eclyptos said:
I will unlock now, but I already updated to 4.3 and I can't root my phone with locked BL to backup TA. I don't care about warranty, I brought the phone with intention to come on XDA an flash, so I was aware about losing warranty.
Even if I backup TA I will lose BIONZ and X-Reality anyway so backup TA to me don't make sense.
I am just worry do not lost something what I will need further time and I referring about the functionality of the device.
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Downgrade to 534 and backup TA, then upgrade again. Just backup TA in any way possible.
Restoring TA relocks the bootloader and restores X-Reality and the likes.
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MohammadAG said:
Downgrade to 534 and backup TA, then upgrade again. Just backup TA in any way possible.
Restoring TA relocks the bootloader and restores X-Reality and the likes.
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Why i need to downgrde to 534 and backup TA?, Can i upgrade to the 4.3 and backup?. difference between two methods
MohammadAG said:
Downgrade to 534 and backup TA, then upgrade again. Just backup TA in any way possible.
Restoring TA relocks the bootloader and restores X-Reality and the likes.
Sent from my Sony Xperia Z1 using Taptalk
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Really? Somply using the TA. Backup program to restore relock the bootloader? No need to use flashtool or adb first?
Btw in older phones BE 2 stopped working for pictures but kept working for videos on unlocked bootloaders
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shteren said:
Really? Somply using the TA. Backup program to restore relock the bootloader? No need to use flashtool or adb first?
Btw in older phones BE 2 stopped working for pictures but kept working for videos on unlocked bootloaders
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I don't know of any programs, I simply use dd to backup and restore, but I'm guessing any program that does that is simply a script that uses dd.
I never saw the advantages of X-Reality in photos, only saw it in videos, and I can't see it anymore.
Restoring the TA doesn't need flashtool, adb is just to make terminal access easier and transfer the backup, technically you could just use a terminal emulator on the Play Store and upload the backup to Google Drive without using a PC. You just need to be rooted.
MohammadAG said:
Restoring TA relocks the bootloader and restores X-Reality and the likes.
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Restoring TA that mean restoring the phone to factory state, that mean I can't do that if I am on Custom Rom with Custom Kernel.
Factory state I will need just for warranty or I have to choose what I want, Custom Rom with Custom Kernels without X-Reality and BIONZ or Custom Rom with Stock Kernel with X-Reality and BIONZ?
What you people will do?
eclyptos said:
Even if I backup TA I will lose BIONZ and X-Reality anyway so backup TA to me don't make sense.
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What is this you go on about BIONZ?
What, your camera now takes raw photos or what?
How does your camera work if your image processor supposedly doesn't?
If you manage to flash your way to a custom kernel and rom, how hard is it to go back to stock and then shove your DRM keys back in there?
benziii said:
What is this you go on about BIONZ?
What, your camera now takes raw photos or what?
How does your camera work if your image processor supposedly doesn't?
If you manage to flash your way to a custom kernel and rom, how hard is it to go back to stock and then shove your DRM keys back in there?
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BIONZ processing and X-Reality maybe do not influence much the functionality. I am just careful do not lose some pieces which I will need in the future but the only thing what people are saying is that I need the DRM for restore to stock.
Like I said, why I should go back to stock? Just for warranty, who cares! In this DRM keys is something what I have to keep?

How to relock bootloader without TA backups.. Android 4.3.. Please help mr

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it is possible to lock it without a backup, is your camera not working anymore ?
You can try flashtool, BLU option tries to relock it if it's unlocked, theres a good chance you will brick your device!
Have fun
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AntiDroid said:
it is possible to lock it without a backup, is your camera not working anymore ?
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Are you sure this is good and/or informative advice? I thought a locked bootloader not finding valid keys in the TA will refuse to ever function usefully again - no boot, no fastboot, no flashmode, nothing, totally bricked, and no way to convert it back to unlocked and get your phone back.
I would like to know if I am wrong about any of that. And... it seems that I was:
** Correction - it is Ok to relock the bootloader without having the pre-unlock data in the TA partition
** Flashing in data from any other TA partition (some other phone) seems certain to brick the phone though.
n0bleINtP said:
Are you sure this is good and/or informative advice? I thought a locked bootloader not finding valid keys in the TA will refuse to ever function usefully again - no boot, no fastboot, no flashmode, nothing, totally bricked, and no way to convert it back to unlocked and get your phone back.
I would like to know if I am wrong about any of that.
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I've never read about those damages but I read things like the known camera bug.
I unlocked my Z1 on .290 - the Sony release which fixed the problem (4.3). I flashed a Recovery and rooted it with it and my device is working like it was with a "untouched" ROM.
That's all I know.
We could wait for a dev to answer deeper questions.
AntiDroid said:
I unlocked my Z1 on .290 - the Sony release which fixed the problem (4.3).
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Yes this absolutely fine and is what I did with my Z1, ie do not unlock until after the 290 update is applied - you will see that advice on the Sony unlock website. However if you want a TA backup you need to do that before unlocking as the unlock process will wipe the keys, and you also need root in order to make that copy. (let me know if I am wrong about that)
My process was to root on earlier firmware, copy the TA, update to .290, then unlock. After unlocking full root on .290 is easy with a custom kernel and everything is good: unlocked, rooted *and* working camera.
But you *will* need a copy of the pre-unlock TA partition to regain any of the functions that use the DRM keys if you decide to relock the bootloader later.
It is impossible to get the DRM keys back, and there is no gain from relocking without them, all you're doing is locking down the bootloader without enabling BIONZ, etc, but you can certainly run a stock system if you want.
n0bleINtP said:
Yes this absolutely fine and is what I did with my Z1, ie do not unlock until after the 290 update is applied - you will see that advice on the Sony unlock website. However if you want a TA backup you need to do that before unlocking as the unlock process will wipe the keys, and you also need root in order to make that copy. (let me know if I am wrong about that)
My process was to root on earlier firmware, copy the TA, update to .290, then unlock. After unlocking full root on .290 is easy with a custom kernel and everything is good: unlocked, rooted *and* working camera.
But you *will* need a copy of the pre-unlock TA partition to regain any of the functions that use the DRM keys if you decide to relock the bootloader later.
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Hello, yesterday I downgraded to rooteable 4.2.2 rom in order to backup TA partition. Once I had backup, I updated to 4.3 (290) and unlocked bootloader, then flashed recovery. With recovery was easy to flash superSu. Now I have "stock" rom with root and unlocked bootloader, but I realized that x-reality wasn't warking anymore (because of the DRM keys loss).
I tried to recover TA partition, but I caused a soft-brick, wich I only could solve flashing a 290 ftf through flashtool, but I lost root. My question is: It is possible to have root and DRM keys (TA partition restored)??
Thank you very much.
yanbee said:
Hello, yesterday I downgraded to rooteable 4.2.2 rom in order to backup TA partition. Once I had backup, I updated to 4.3 (290) and unlocked bootloader, then flashed recovery. With recovery was easy to flash superSu. Now I have "stock" rom with root and unlocked bootloader, but I realized that x-reality wasn't warking anymore (because of the DRM keys loss).
I tried to recover TA partition, but I caused a soft-brick, wich I only could solve flashing a 290 ftf through flashtool, but I lost root. My question is: It is possible to have root and DRM keys (TA partition restored)??
Thank you very much.
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No, never.
Just2Cause said:
No, never.
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So, apart from losing x-reality and some Sony apps functionalities (which I dont care). Do you lose something else? I heard about losing bionz processor, but camera still works, then I dont know how far this is true.
The incompatibility problem of root and restored TA partition, is because flashing recovery (which modifies kernel) or supersu.apk it self?
Thank you VERY much!
You loose bionz, but not x-reality. I unlocked my bootloader and I have x-relity enabled.
Some ROMs won't have working camera, for example: android 4.4 KitKat ported from xperia z ultra GPe, and some other ROMs.
Just2Cause said:
You loose bionz, but not x-reality. I unlocked my bootloader and I have x-relity enabled.
Some ROMs won't have working camera, for example: android 4.4 KitKat ported from xperia z ultra GPe, and some other ROMs.
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I can see that the x-reality option is still on menu, and you can enable/disable it, but it doesn't work. Before, I could see in the first second of picture showing how x-reality improves the image (its an effect that can be seen with the naked eye), this is not happening now. By the way, its for sure that bionz stop working? How could I take pictures without it?
Thank you
yanbee said:
I can see that the x-reality option is still on menu, and you can enable/disable it, but it doesn't work. Before, I could see in the first second of picture showing how x-reality improves the image (its an effect that can be seen with the naked eye), this is not happening now. By the way, its for sure that bionz stop working? How could I take pictures without it?
Thank you
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Not sure about bionz, but I guessed it as I had the x-relity option enabled. I can't tell if it works or not as I don't have camera (I'm using ported 4.4)
It would be nice of someone confirmed it.
Correct me if i am wrong.
Bionz is a service which improves the pictures after a shot, isn't it ?
Bionz and X-Reality are things u can't detect that easy like "oh that effect is from X-Reality" or something else.
I thought the main reason for not working cameras on other roms was that the dev's didn't apply those 4.3 changes :S
AntiDroid said:
Correct me if i am wrong.
Bionz is a service which improves the pictures after a shot, isn't it ?
Bionz and X-Reality are things u can't detect that easy like "oh that effect is from X-Reality" or something else.
I thought the main reason for not working cameras on other roms was that the dev's didn't apply those 4.3 changes :S
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Bionz it's a image processor that includes xperia Z1, it process the pictures taken instead the cpu. I dont know if it's easy to detect if it's working or not. But in the case of x-reallity it's very simple, when you open a picture in Sony gallery app, you can see how the picture "improves" quality in the first second. It is no so evident in all pictures, but can be detected by a naked eye, as I do.
My only doubt is about bionz processor, I already know that I loss x-reality. But I want to be SURE if bionz processing is also lost. I want to have full root (with unlocked bootloader), and have bionz enabled. I dont care x-reality or Sony apps.
Thank you very much
Just2Cause said:
No, never.
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Not true. If you have a TA backup, install .290, unlock bootloader, install a recovery, root, reflash stock boot partition, restore TA partition, you will end up with a booting, rooted, .290 installation.
Rekoil said:
Not true. If you have a TA backup, install .290, unlock bootloader, install a recovery, root, reflash stock boot partition, restore TA partition, you will end up with a booting, rooted, .290 installation.
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Are you sure about that? :fingers-crossed:
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Are you sure about that? :fingers-crossed:
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I did that and it worked
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Rekoil said:
Not true. If you have a TA backup, install .290, unlock bootloader, install a recovery, root, reflash stock boot partition, restore TA partition, you will end up with a booting, rooted, .290 installation.
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jjpro45 said:
I did that and it worked
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Thank you VERY much!!! Could someone tell me how to reflash boot partition only?? The TA partition which I must restore, could be restored in 290 if backups comes from 534?

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