I recently got my brother a iPhone 5 on T-Mobile and I have the HTC one on tmobile and for some reason he will have better service and LTE and I'll have 4g or sometimes 2g why is that ?
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They are 2 completely different devices, with different designs, materials, software and antennas.
Comparing the two for reception doesnt necessarily mean its bad or not working right.
Over the years ive learned some entire lines of devices will have "issues" that are just due to design.
To see if your devices is bad compare it to another identical model.
probably just apple boosting the signal bars to make it look better. i have a htc one and my girl has iphone 5 both on tmo but i get better signal than her. not based on bars or if it says 4g or lte just performance
After 9 painful months of using an HTC 8X windows phone (the pain was in the OS, not the phone) I was ready to get a new android phone. Finally there were new releases and picked up a moto x. While I like the phone and availability of apps I was missing, the signal quality is no where near that of the HTC 8X. This is both in phone call quality and 4G data reception.
So, has anyone else noticed this, or experiencing similar symptoms?
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My reception has been better on this phone than all of my previous ones. That includes literally every flagship that Sprint and AT&T have had since the HTC Hero. Motorola is famous for their radio quality. Not sure what's going on in your case but I know the vast majority of Moto X owners are quite pleased with it in this regard.
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I have a Verizon Moto X and while in use, the reception is fine, I'm wondering how they decide to show their bars. I've NEVER seen this thing have a full 5 bars. I can be 3 feet from my network extender, and its 2 bars. It works fine, voice is clear, LTE with 3-4 bars is in the 30mbit range, but it has never hit 5 bars.
If you have a Pure Edition on AT&T how is your data reception? Is your LTE better or worse? Do you have a harder time holding onto LTE and you are dropping down to +HSPA more often? Is your dBM lower on the Pure Edition? Or do you find the Pure Edition to have great reception?
I have not noticed any worse reception with LTE on my Pure Edition, coming from a Developer Edition Gen 1 Moto X. As far as I can tell my data connection is fine... and might actually be a little faster. But that could just be the faster device itself.
This is, of course, after I called AT&T to actually get access to the LTE network - at first I was stuck on HSPA and couldn't get any data, including Snapchat downloads. That took about 45 minutes online with a rep to give them my IMEI (I think that's all they needed) but it was completely painless and they might have fixed that issue already. The only reason I knew about it was due to a thread I saw either here or on reddit, but thankfully I saw that before I realized my data wasn't working.
Coming from a Nexus 5, my LTE reception is waaaay better. As much as I love the N5, its radios are definitely not one of its better qualities. Motorola is known for having among the best radios in the business, and of all the devices I've owned, both Moto X's have had the best reception.
Thanks. I bought a pure edition through swappa. I has always had great luck with Motorola and reception. I was just nervous because the Nexus 5 had terrible data reception for me and even the GPE HTC One was sub par compared to the AT&T version.
Reception has been great. Best of any phone I have ever owned.
I love the LTE reception on AT&T compared to my Nexus 5. I did notice today when i went to an area with crappy signal my phone didnt have any data. It kept showing LTE bars but i wasnt able to load any sites. I then had to force it to use 3G to get any data connection.
Anyone have similar issues?
I ordered a Pure Edition due to the Cyber Monday Sale and the fact that I have been reading a lot about the Engineering Motorola put into the radios in this device.
To prevent this becoming a primer on Antenna tuning and Impedance, suffice it to say Motorola developed their own custom antennae tuner for the Moto X, electing to not go with the Qualcomm offering. The take away here is that this special antennae tuner is capable of actually detecting capacitance changes at the antenna and adjusting the impedance accordingly.
So, one of my biggest reasons for moving from the Nexus 5 to the Moto X 2014 Pure Edition was the antennae which should give me (in theory) far better reception than my Nexus 5.
I am glad to see from other posters that it may in reality give me better reception on at&t, not just theory.
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I've got my N6 on T-Mobile and have noticed some spotty issues with LTE. for example, in my office I get LTE on my G3 but now I'm only seeing HSPA+.
I know some reviews stated this happened but was wondering if this could be fixed with software. The Nexus 5 had pretty bad signal for me too, so it'd be interesting to see if this can get fixed.
Thoughts?
I just think it has to do with nexus device radios not being fine tuned to specific carriers. The radio on your tmo one is the same as the radio for a att nexus. Whereas your g3 is tmo specific
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I just think it has to do with nexus device radios not being fine tuned to specific carriers. The radio on your tmo one is the same as the radio for a att nexus. Whereas your g3 is tmo specific
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That was my thought as well. Hoping a software update could tune the radios a little better for individual carriers.
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That was my thought as well. Hoping a software update could tune the radios a little better for individual carriers.
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Most likely not. I've always had odd behavior on my nexus devices radio wise. I'm hoping that with Motorola generally having good radio hardware things will be a little better than the last two lg nexus phones. Most likely not.
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Most likely not. I've always had odd behavior on my nexus devices radio wise. I'm hoping that with Motorola generally having good radio hardware things will be a little better than the last two lg nexus phones. Most likely not.
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Yea... Just being hopeful. My Nexus 5 was the same way, so I'm not expecting much out of the Nexus 6 either.
Im sure once we get some development support when the phone is offically out that will get fixed. I was running a LG G3 and a Nexus 5 at work and both were extremely spotty at work in the basement. Switched back to my Nexus 5 with a custom rom and BOOM my signal was 2x better.
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Im sure once we get some development support when the phone is offically out that will get fixed. I was running a LG G3 and a Nexus 5 at work and both were extremely spotty at work in the basement. Switched back to my Nexus 5 with a custom rom and BOOM my signal was 2x better.
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Alright, cool. I did notice the preferred network mode was set to Global instead of LTE - which I now switched. Seems like it's grabbing LTE at least a little better right now. Haven't really tested it too much yet, though.
Hi everyone, waiting for my Nexus to get shipped from the GPS but I've seen some anecdotal reports on here and the Android Central forums about the signal strength not being so great on this phone. Specifically, some people report that their LG Nexus 5 shows a better signal in dB (not just bars) than their Nexus 6.
I'm a little concerned about this. I relocated just over a year ago to an area where I don't have the best coverage with Verizon at my work. At that time, I had a Galaxy S3 which had terrible radios where I literally had no coverage in many places. I upgraded to an S4 and had no issues since then although my wife's Note 3 seems to do slightly better getting LTE when I drop to 3G. Was looking forward to getting this phone as it will be my first Motorola and I've always read that Moto has some of the best radios (also read LG and Apple do too). Not gonna turn this into a Note 4 vs Nexus 6 thread because that one already exists and is a hot mess but I've been reading that the signal strength on the Note 4 is really good.
I have a ship date of 11/26 so I guess I'll find out soon enough but just wondering what people's experience has been with the Nexus 6.
Thanks!
I'm curious about this as well, I have a Nexus 4 and find its radios to be more powerful than my siblings and gfs Nexus 5s.
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Mine has about the same reception if not a little better than my G3. Att is really bad where I live but I usually have LTE except for a few places but its much better than my wife's S5
i think people just get too caught up in graphical representations of signal (i.e. signal bars). Different phones and carriers show different things for the same level of actual signal. In my experience on T-Mobile on Long Island/ NYC - i get as good if not better signal than i did with my nexus 5. There are a few spots where i had no signal with my nexus 5 that i now get a stable weak signal with the nexus 6. To me, it really has been as good or better, but certainly not worse. With that said, graphically spots where the nexus 5 said i had full bars of service (5/5), the N6 reports as having (4/5), but the service is the same. Speed tests and dbm all match up, so i can just assume it's the way it's being displayed.
The sony Z3 I had had the same dbm that the Nexus 6 is showing in my office, but the visual bars on the Nexus 6 show as being lower. I haven't had any slower speeds anywhere with the Nexus 6 so far. One thing I have noticed is that I'm not getting 4G while on the phone the majority of the time. I haven't had that be an issue in the past. I'm on T-Mobile.
Now THIS is something that I have really been wanting to know. The fact that I too have heard about how good Moto's radios have been in the past really got my hopes up for this phone. I currently rock an AT&T Note 3. And IDK if I just got a lemon, or if Samsung really did throw the cheapest POS radio in their last year flagship phone. But of all the android phones I have owned (Sony, HTC, Moto, samsung) this one gets hands down the worst signal strength I have ever had. Further more, I make it a habbit to compare this thing to every other AT&T phone I can, from friends and family. And not one of them has ever had worse signal strength than I. The closest one had about -3dB less than mine. Most had -5 or even -10dB better. Even after flashing every single AT&T radio firmware, different cases, it still is just terrible. Right now sitting in my house it is at -100 and showing 3 bars. I work as a drive tester for cell towers, and my test phone is a sprint Nexus 5. So I cant compare it to my note, being on a different network.
But on to the topic of the N6, since it has radios for pretty much every network, would that mean that said radios are of a lesser quality? I had really hoped that this phone would blow my Note 3 out of the water on AT&T. Honestly, even if it isn't as good as other Moto phones, it still has to be better than my Note 3. Even dads S5 active and moms S4 get much better signal strength numbers than mine. Forgive me for asking this, but is this something that can be improved within the dev community with some flashing, or is it just a hardware limitation?
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Now THIS is something that I have really been wanting to know. The fact that I too have heard about how good Moto's radios have been in the past really got my hopes up for this phone. I currently rock an AT&T Note 3. And IDK if I just got a lemon, or if Samsung really did throw the cheapest POS radio in their last year flagship phone. But of all the android phones I have owned (Sony, HTC, Moto, samsung) this one gets hands down the worst signal strength I have ever had. Further more, I make it a habbit to compare this thing to every other AT&T phone I can, from friends and family. And not one of them has ever had worse signal strength than I. The closest one had about -3dB less than mine. Most had -5 or even -10dB better. Even after flashing every single AT&T radio firmware, different cases, it still is just terrible. Right now sitting in my house it is at -100 and showing 3 bars. I work as a drive tester for cell towers, and my test phone is a sprint Nexus 5. So I cant compare it to my note, being on a different network.
But on to the topic of the N6, since it has radios for pretty much every network, would that mean that said radios are of a lesser quality? I had really hoped that this phone would blow my Note 3 out of the water on AT&T. Honestly, even if it isn't as good as other Moto phones, it still has to be better than my Note 3. Even dads S5 active and moms S4 get much better signal strength numbers than mine. Forgive me for asking this, but is this something that can be improved within the dev community with some flashing, or is it just a hardware limitation?
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Some radios worked a little better on my note 3 but some were worse ...it was a crap shoot. ....but none were far and away better ....like you my note 3 got horrible signal on sprint ....g3 was worse for me so this has to be better lol
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Some radios worked a little better on my note 3 but some were worse ...it was a crap shoot. ....but none were far and away better ....like you my note 3 got horrible signal on sprint ....g3 was worse for me so this has to be better lol
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Haha I am not alone! Well, here's to better signal in the N6!!!
Seems to me that the nexus 6 reports low signal as time without signal. Hasn't been an issue here as I'm always connected to lte even in places I'd drop to 3g
So anything new on Signal? I'm trying to buy a Nexus6 but haven't been able to on Verizon. Hope there is some good news there has been a lot of bad.
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So anything new on Signal? I'm trying to buy a Nexus6 but haven't been able to on Verizon. Hope there is some good news there has been a lot of bad.
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Best and most consistent connection/speeds of any device I've owned on Verizon.
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Make sure when u unlock your device that you change your cellular networks to LTE. When I unlock my device I wasn't getting no cell signal or phone call and I noticed my networks were set at ( Global ) so I switched it back to LTE.
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Make sure when u unlock your device that you change your cellular networks to LTE. When I unlock my device I wasn't getting no cell signal or phone call and I noticed my networks were set at ( Global ) so I switched it back to LTE.
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What Carrier are you on?
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What Carrier are you on?
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Tmobile
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Tmobile
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I'm on Verizon and really doesn't make much difference on my Droid Maxx. Maybe its something in 5.0. I gotta give it a shot can always send it back if I can ever get one. Pisses me off I got the money for the phone and I can't buy it. Maybe that's some kind of sign. lol
I get a little better signal than my wife's Note 4 in the same locations. She has an otterbox commuter case on though and I'm still running around naked.
I have similar experiences with my N6, or had. I've only had it for 2 days though, but I was having signal drop out and 3g/LTE switching a lot yesterday. I changed my APN protocol to IPV4/IPV6 instead of IPV6 and today its been fine. I don't know if that actually had anything to do with it or not, but thought I'd share. I think its just a coincidence and for some reason my signal just decided to work better. Worth a shot.
So I changed to LTE and now I don't have a global option.... I travel internationally for work very expensively (T-Mobile free worldwide data ftw) and had found previously on my Nexus 5 that I needed to be on global for it to work anywhere else...
Any ideas here?
When there's a CDMA SIM in the phone (Verizon/Sprint), it shows the global option where it can use both CDMA and GSM networks. When there's a GSM SIM in the phone (Tmo, AT&T, etc.), it seems to go into GSM-only mode (no need to display global, which seems to mean GSM+CDMA in the Nexus 6's case).
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So I changed to LTE and now I don't have a global option.... I travel internationally for work very expensively (T-Mobile free worldwide data ftw) and had found previously on my Nexus 5 that I needed to be on global for it to work anywhere else...
Any ideas here?
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When there's a CDMA SIM in the phone (Verizon/Sprint), it shows the global option where it can use both CDMA and GSM networks. When there's a GSM SIM in the phone (Tmo, AT&T, etc.), it seems to go into GSM-only mode (no need to display global, which seems to mean GSM+CDMA in the Nexus 6's case).
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Interesting change from the Nexus 5. Previously, I had to be sure global was selected overseas as opposed to just LTE, so you can see why I was originally concerned. Good to know. Thanks for the info man!