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My setup: 4.4 ATT Moto X, Rooted (by way of latest jcase method), Locked bootloader, and I'm pretty sure write protection is off (though I don't remember how to check)
What I am wanting to know is how would and should I be able to get to 4.4.2, and get my root back (as I'm not confident any method will be able to "keep" my root safely without screwing something else up)? What's the best way based on my setup, and what files or tools would I need(stock 4.4 or 4.4.2 ROM, a new recovery image, etc)?
Since the root method I used hijacks the recovery, I suppose I technically don't have a functional one (other than it maintaining my root). Do I even need a custom recovery? I don't ever plan to flash anything other than basic stock firmware, though I may toy around with Xposed in the future. Also as a sidenote, im currently using ART instead of Dalvik. If any method or technique might conflict with that (other than Xposed), then let me know to the best of your knowledge.
Write protection will be enabled on 4.4.2. You can have root, but a shutdown or hard reboot will erase the changes you make that are root oriented.
As far as getting to 4.4.2.....tonnes of info already here...multiple threads.
Here's a basic guide...and Google can help too. Read any thread related to 4.4.2 and locked bootloaders.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
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I am using safestrap on my locked AT&T moto to get 4.4.2 + root + r/w on system - works perfectly.
(I modified the OTA to create a flashable zip that patches stock 4.4 up to 4.4.2, without updating the bootloader. I have an untested 4.4.2 flashable zip, and when the official SBF is released, I'll make another and test it myself.)
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kj2112 said:
Write protection will be enabled on 4.4.2. You can have root, but a shutdown or hard reboot will erase the changes you make that are root oriented.
As far as getting to 4.4.2.....tonnes of info already here...multiple threads.
Here's a basic guide...and Google can help too. Read any thread related to 4.4.2 and locked bootloaders.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
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Honestly i dont even care to have an unlocked bootloader. I just realy need root after I update. Write protection, so far i think, i've only needed for AdAway to work on my phone, though Im sure I have used or applied it else on my device. And thanks for the thread, but I was already subscribed .
Ctrl-Freak said:
I am using safestrap on my locked AT&T moto to get 4.4.2 + root + r/w on system - works perfectly.
(I modified the OTA to create a flashable zip that patches stock 4.4 up to 4.4.2, without updating the bootloader. I have an untested 4.4.2 flashable zip, and when the official SBF is released, I'll make another and test it myself.)
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While I would like to test that out further for you, I have only one phone lol. I very lightly looked in safestrap sometime ago when I was trying to find how to root previous versions of my phones software. Back then I didn't feel I needed it, as I was and still am trying to keep things simple this time around with my Android device. I'll look into it again and see if needs have changed, but would reeeeeally like to just find a way to get root after updating. Your way does actually sound enticing however.
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While I would like to test that out further for you, I have only one phone lol. I very lightly looked in safestrap sometime ago when I was trying to find how to root previous versions of my phones software. Back then I didn't feel I needed it, as I was and still am trying to keep things simple this time around with my Android device. I'll look into it again and see if needs have changed, but would reeeeeally like to just find a way to get root after updating. Your way does actually sound enticing however.
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The only ways to use 4.4.2 Rooted with Write Protection DISABLED is the Safestrap way, or to unlock your bootloader.
Since you have AT&T, Moto doesn't give out the code to unlock your bootloader (Non-Developer Edition Verizon phones are the same way.) so if you really want to unlock your bootloader, see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/verizon-moto-maker-bootloader-unlock-t2680651 I know the thread title says VERIZON but it works for ATT users too.
I see, thanks for the explanation, because I certainly wouldn't have know it was for AT&T users too! I'll check them out.
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I am using safestrap on my locked AT&T moto to get 4.4.2 + root + r/w on system - works perfectly.
(I modified the OTA to create a flashable zip that patches stock 4.4 up to 4.4.2, without updating the bootloader. I have an untested 4.4.2 flashable zip, and when the official SBF is released, I'll make another and test it myself.)[/QUOTE
So essentially, I cant just install Safestrap, then update to 4.4.2, correct? I'd need to do what you did, which is to modify the OTA?
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So essentially, I cant just install Safestrap, then update to 4.4.2, correct? I'd need to do what you did, which is to modify the OTA?
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Right. You want a modified version of the OTA that does not modify your bootloader and will patch /system from 4.4 to 4.4.2. I also manually patched the kernel up to 4.4.2.
And, my experience is that you also have to downgrade to 4.2.2. I don't quite understand why, but I have never been able to upgrade to 4.4.x (neither from the 4.4 leak or the official 4.4 version) without going back to 4.2.2 first. The eclipse ROM instructions, on the other hand, suggest that a safestrap:twrp factory wipe might be enough, but I remember trying that once, and it didn't work. YMMV
I already made a zip to flash a full copy of 4.4.2 (not a patch) that I made from my system dump, but it hasn't been tested. (I'm waiting for the SBF.)
Alright. Well I guess I'll have to wait a bit for someone to come out or prove there's a safer, surer method to update. Moto always did like to make thing like this difficult, heh.
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**You can begin the following process from 4.4.x Build/ROM or higher but you must already have Root Access**
**Required** FlashFire - Play BETA - PREVIEW
**Caution!** The following process is only for the I537 AT&T S4 "Active" variant. Use on any other device may result in a hardbrick!
Download:
- I537_OC7_Stock_Rooted_ROM
- I537_OC7_Stock_Rooted_Deodexed_ROM
Pevious Builds:
- I537_OC6_Stock_Rooted_ROM
- I537_OC6_Stock_DeOdexed_ROM
Set your screen timeout setting to 10 mins before beginning!
1. Place the ROM onto your device (use either internal or ext-sdcard).
2. Open the FlashFire app and "Agree" to the Terms and Conditions.
3. Press "(+)" twice to bring up the "Actions" menu.
4. Select "Flash Zip or OTA" and locate and select the ROM. Leave "Auto-mount" unchecked under the "Options" menu and press the checkmark to continue.
5. From the main menu Uncheck all options under "EverRoot" and set "Reboot" setting to "Download."
6. Press the lightning bolt then "Ok" to begin the flash.
7. Once the flash is complete and the device reboots into "Download" mode, flash the I537_OC7_Bootloader using Odin's PDA/AP slot.
The screen will turn black then display the contents of your system before beginning the flash. FlashFire will pause for about 1 minute while flashing the "system" partition. Once complete your device will reboot and pause on the AT&T splash screen for 1 - 2 minutes (15 - 20mins for DeOdexed version) before completely rebooting. Done!
Tip: for blazing fast speed turn off animations from Developer Options and reboot!
Known Issues:
- None!
Optional - Enable Native Tethering:
- I537_OC7_TetherAddOn
- I537_OC6_TetherAddOn (Flash using FF's "Flash zip or ota" option.
Notes:
1. The above process will not affect your Knox Warranty Flag.
2. The process will update your Modem, Non-hlos, System, Kernel, and Stock Recovery.
3. No need to wipe prior to flashing! The ROM will automatically perform a factory data reset.
4. To learn more about FlashFire's capabilities on locked bootloader devices see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60070810&postcount=2
Credits:
@thisisapoorusernamechoice - for capturing the ota update and for his system dump.
@Chainfire
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**You can begin the following process from any Build/ROM but you must already have Root Access**
**Attention** The following process is only for the I537 AT&T S4 "Active" variant. Use on any other device may result in a hardbrick!
Instructions:
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First of all, thank you thank you thank you so much for this. Yeah I grabbed you the OTA's but thanks to you (and of course Chainfire & his FlashFire) we can go from KK to LP with root. And on day one of the OTA. Awesome. :good: So down to business, and I hope I'm not getting ahead of myself or barking up the wrong tree, but hear me out on this one. @Joe-Tech was generous enough to port his regular S4 Google Play Edition (Pure Nexus) 4.4.4 Rom over to our phone. Could we repeat that for this OC6 build, using say, this rom as a base (or another if that turns out to be incompatible for whatever reason)? I doubt I have the expertise to pull that off but if it would help I'd get to work on another masterpatch and speaker phone fix
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First of all, thank you thank you thank you so much for this. Yeah I grabbed you the OTA's but thanks to you (and of course Chainfire & his FlashFire) we can go from KK to LP with root. And on day one of the OTA. Awesome. :good: So down to business, and I hope I'm not getting ahead of myself or barking up the wrong tree, but hear me out on this one. @Joe-Tech was generous enough to port his regular S4 Google Play Edition (Pure Nexus) 4.4.4 Rom over to our phone. Could we repeat that for this OC6 build, using say, this rom as a base (or another if that turns out to be incompatible for whatever reason)? I doubt I have the expertise to pull that off but if it would help I'd get to work on another masterpatch and speaker phone fix
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I have an LP 5.0.1 base, ported using that ROM that you mentioned, but we all know safestrap is not compatible yet with 5.x and FlashFire can only flash TW base rom from my experience, and it still on beta phase, so let just cross fingers, i know something coming soon
Joe-Tech said:
I have an LP 5.0.1 base, ported using that ROM that you mentioned, but we all know safestrap is not compatible yet with 5.x and FlashFire can only flash TW base rom from my experience, and it still on beta phase, so let just cross fingers, i know something coming soon
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You're the man. Thanks for this info. I'm going to make a masterpatch, hopefully it'll be needed soon. Obviously I'll be happy to test anything if and whenever something like this does happen. If I can do anything at all to help that along just let me know. I was not aware FF could only flash TW base roms, shoot
Still loving your 4.4.4, I'm torn on taking the update if it means going back to touchwiz with no current AOSP option
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You're the man. Thanks for this info. I'm going to make a masterpatch, hopefully it'll be needed soon. Obviously I'll be happy to test anything if and whenever something like this does happen. If I can do anything at all to help that along just let me know. I was not aware FF could only flash TW base roms, shoot
Still loving your 4.4.4, I'm torn on taking the update if it means going back to touchwiz with no current AOSP option
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Only way im thinking to boot the new LP ROM, is to use @muniz_ri method so we can upgrade and keep root. So now we going to be on the OC6 kernel and baseband, since the gpe can boot without flashing the kernel. Then we can flash the GPE 5.x ROM, either with safestrap or FlashFire, and we can also use Odin to flash the stock kernel/partitions. But too bad none of them worked for me after the upgrade, FF will sit there for ever try to get root permission.
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But too bad none of them worked for me after the upgrade, FF will sit there for ever try to get root permission.
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Were other rooted apps able to get root permission?
thisisapoorusernamechoice said:
Were other rooted apps able to get root permission?
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Nope I even tried root checker, the su app is there on the app drawer, i was able to updated from the play store, but still wasn't working though.
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Joe-Tech said:
Nope I even tried root checker, the su app is there on the app drawer, i was able to updated from the play store, but still wasn't working though.
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Just had a thought, probably nothing. When doing the kitkat to lollipop update to keep root with flashfire, would it help anything to convert flashfire to a system app before doing the update? Sorry if this is a stupid question
thisisapoorusernamechoice said:
Just had a thought, probably nothing. When doing the kitkat to lollipop update to keep root with flashfire, would it help anything to convert flashfire to a system app before doing the update? Sorry if this is a stupid question
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I don't think it will make any difference.
@muniz_ri: This is great, thanks for all your work on this. As I understand it, this method will update you to OC6 with root if the original firmware was already rooted. So my question is then, if a user has already taken the OC6 update and would like to root afterwards is it currently impossible? Is the only way to root OC6 to downgrade back to NE3, root, and then follow your instructions to update to OC6 with root?
I'm guessing a root vulnerability hasn't been found for the Samsung 5.0 firmware yet, but I just wanted to check.
Also, I posted this in the other thread, but has anybody actually downgraded from OC6 to NE3 successfully? I don't want to give people wrong information.
Okay, I need some help here. I'm not quite understanding this:
1. Extract the I537_OC6_Stock_Rooted_Firmware.tar from the .rar and place it and the I537_OC6_Stock_Partitions.zip onto your device (use either internal or ext-sdcard).
Place what where? I used WinRAR to extract the file? What is the OC6 stock partition?
mikelets456 said:
Okay, I need some help here. I'm not quite understanding this:
1. Extract the I537_OC6_Stock_Rooted_Firmware.tar from the .rar and place it and the I537_OC6_Stock_Partitions.zip onto your device (use either internal or ext-sdcard).
Place what where? I used WinRAR to extract the file? What is the OC6 stock partition?
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Extract the tar from the rar. Leave the zip as is. Copy the tar and the zip to your phone's internal memory or external SD card, somewhere it'll be easy for you to find
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@muniz_ri: This is great, thanks for all your work on this. As I understand it, this method will update you to OC6 with root if the original firmware was already rooted. So my question is then, if a user has already taken the OC6 update and would like to root afterwards is it currently impossible? Is the only way to root OC6 to downgrade back to NE3, root, and then follow your instructions to update to OC6 with root?
I'm guessing a root vulnerability hasn't been found for the Samsung 5.0 firmware yet, but I just wanted to check.
Also, I posted this in the other thread, but has anybody actually downgraded from OC6 to NE3 successfully? I don't want to give people wrong information.
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Correct, you will need to go back to NE3 then use towelroot before starting this process. And yes, the aboot qfuse counter determines whether or not you can downgrade. I checked it and it does allow for downgrading.
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Okay, I need some help here. I'm not quite understanding this:
1. Extract the I537_OC6_Stock_Rooted_Firmware.tar from the .rar and place it and the I537_OC6_Stock_Partitions.zip onto your device (use either internal or ext-sdcard).
Place what where? I used WinRAR to extract the file? What is the OC6 stock partition?
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If all of the above is beyond your level of understanding I strongly suggest you reconsider attempting to modify your phone.
muniz_ri said:
Correct, you will need to go back to NE3 then use towelroot before starting this process. And yes, the aboot qfuse counter determines whether or not you can downgrade. I checked it and it does allow for downgrading.
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Great thanks, one more question: Would it be possible to use something similar to W0lfdroids method of rooting? So on stock OC6, flash the NE3 kernel (since downgrading is possible), root with Towelroot, the flash back to the OC6 kernel. Just thinking about it I'm guessing it wouldn't work because you wouldn't be able to boot 5.0 with a 4.4.2 kernel, but I figured I'd ask.
Devo7v said:
Great thanks, one more question: Would it be possible to use something similar to W0lfdroids method of rooting? So on stock OC6, flash the NE3 kernel (since downgrading is possible), root with Towelroot, the flash back to the OC6 kernel. Just thinking about it I'm guessing it wouldn't work because you wouldn't be able to boot 5.0 with a 4.4.2 kernel, but I figured I'd ask.
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Did not bother to try since it has not worked on any 5.0 release so far.
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Did not bother to try since it has not worked on any 5.0 release so far.
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Any chance I can implore you to try it since there will inevitably be a bunch of people already on the OC6 firmware asking how to root it and will get pissed when they find they have to wipe their phone? Or maybe you could just provide the stock OC6 kernel and I can convince @thisisapoorusernamechoice to give it a shot?
For what it's worth, just went through the process in post 1. Everything went fine, but after the Galaxy S4 boot screen, it goes black and stays. I can boot to download mode and stock recovery, so it's not a major issue, and likely something I did. I'll mess with it a bit more then Odin back to stock and start over.
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For what it's worth, just went through the process in post 1. Everything went fine, but after the Galaxy S4 boot screen, it goes black and stays. I can boot to download mode and stock recovery, so it's not a major issue, and likely something I did. I'll mess with it a bit more then Odin back to stock and start over.
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A couple questions:
What firmware were you coming from?
How long did you wait?
Did you have Xposed enabled?
After reading dozens of threads I'm at a loss.
1. Can I root?
2. If I root, is my phone still going to work? Or will it become the latest victim of my Beowolf.
Odin twrp then install unikernel inside twrp. Will trip Knox so Samsung pay won't work anymore.
tyrone1 said:
Odin twrp then install unikernel inside twrp. Will trip Knox so Samsung pay won't work anymore.
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Ok thanks. Not concerned with Sam pay. Citibank and Wells aren't supported.
It works with Citibank cards
stncldtex said:
After reading dozens of threads I'm at a loss.
1. Can I root?
2. If I root, is my phone still going to work? Or will it become the latest victim of my Beowolf.
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I finally found a routine and the right files needed to successfully acquire root, twrp, and custom ROM. Although, the only custom ROM Iv'e been able to boot and setup with all T-Mobile services intact and even the finger print security feature working, is the "OZOP_EDGE_v11_DOJ7.zip, thanks to stangdriver44".
Just remember you should back up the EFS and backup the phone using Samsung smart switch. If you need help, pm me. Id lay out the exact steps I took to get root originally and what it took to get out of a bricked phone, and finally to root and install a custom ROM.
I will type up what I did later today or tomorrow and post it in case anyone does the same thing to gets bootloops and bricks.
I have to attend to other chores now before I go back to work tomorrow, since I spent every evening for the last week and all day and night yesterday, trying to bring this phone out of brick.
chevy383surfing
tyrone1 said:
It works with Citibank cards
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Sorry Capital One not Citi.
stncldtex said:
After reading dozens of threads I'm at a loss.
1. Can I root?
2. If I root, is my phone still going to work? Or will it become the latest victim of my Beowolf.
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chainfire's systemless root BETA v2.61 works flawlessly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64161125&postcount=3
pm me.
Id like to know the steps you took to root your s6. pm me whenever possible. Thanks.
chevy383surfing said:
I finally found a routine and the right files needed to successfully acquire root, twrp, and custom ROM. Although, the only custom ROM Iv'e been able to boot and setup with all T-Mobile services intact and even the finger print security feature working, is the "OZOP_EDGE_v11_DOJ7.zip, thanks to stangdriver44".
Just remember you should back up the EFS and backup the phone using Samsung smart switch. If you need help, pm me. Id lay out the exact steps I took to get root originally and what it took to get out of a bricked phone, and finally to root and install a custom ROM.
I will type up what I did later today or tomorrow and post it in case anyone does the same thing to gets bootloops and bricks.
I have to attend to other chores now before I go back to work tomorrow, since I spent every evening for the last week and all day and night yesterday, trying to bring this phone out of brick.
chevy383surfing
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andrey1186 said:
Id like to know the steps you took to root your s6. pm me whenever possible. Thanks.
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I will get a write up of the steps. I'll pm you tomorrow afternoon. I planned to do it tonight, but I have a case of the Mondays!
muniz_ri said:
chainfire's systemless root BETA v2.61 works flawlessly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64161125&postcount=3
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How do you flash it?
stncldtex said:
How do you flash it?
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Install twrp on stock oj7 then flash supersu v2.61 in twrp. that's it.
muniz_ri said:
chainfire's systemless root BETA v2.61 works flawlessly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64161125&postcount=3
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Does this trip KNOX?
chip.hughes said:
Does this trip KNOX?
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of course
stncldtex said:
How do you flash it?
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You'd have to setup Cygwin software to make the zip an 'Odin flashable .tar.md5 type file', which I have not had time to play with, in order to flash supersu zip files onto the samsung phones.
I am working on a worksheet right now explaining what I had to do to install 5.1.1 firmware and root the phone. I am still looking back to remember exactly how I unlocked the bootloader. I did have to use an android terminal to map out the twrp recovery manual on the phone itself. I do know it would wise for anyone interested in this to backup the EFS before anything. I had to download a specific windows DOS software that does it in a couple seconds and stores it on your computer. It works for a number of other phones as well. Also need to download the newest Odin 3.10.7 software in order to work with 5.1.1 firmware without any problems. Also need to do a backup of whole phone with samsung smart switch "takes place of Kies software now". When I get home tonight I will get names and locations of everything and inform everyone. If you download the wrong DOJ7 software or firmware you'll mess up your device. It took me a week to find the right software downloads related to 5.1.1 in order to make everything work right. And I did everything within 15 minutes. Once I figured out the routine.
Once you update to 5.1.1 I know of no way to downgrade.
I do recommend going over to serio22's post -[Firmware][Bootloader & Modems][Odin] - G920T - DOJ7-
And download DOJ7 BL and DOJ7 modem and G920TUVU3DOJ7 (firmware). Download Chainfire's latest beta super su.
You can just flash unikernel to get root.
Possibly any of the other kernels too
stncldtex said:
After reading dozens of threads I'm at a loss.
1. Can I root?
2. If I root, is my phone still going to work? Or will it become the latest victim of my Beowolf.
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Yes you can root .. by flashing unikernel .. and phone will still be working ...
Tried flashing Uni through Odin with no luck. I get this in Odin.
Get PIT for mapping.
Write operation failed.
Any idea's?
stncldtex said:
Tried flashing Uni through Odin with no luck. I get this in Odin.
Get PIT for mapping.
Write operation failed.
Any idea's?
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I recommend you root with the latest Supersu beta v2.62-3 zip. It will patch the stock kernel which was designed for your specific build unlike the unikernel. Just flash via twrp.
muniz_ri said:
I recommend you root with the latest Supersu beta v2.62-3 zip. It will patch the stock kernel which was designed for your specific build unlike the unikernel. Just flash via twrp.
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TWRP gives off the same error.
stncldtex said:
TWRP gives off the same error.
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More accurately trying to Odin TWRP.
I have a note 3 with at&t that's never been rooted but I would like to. Can sometimes point me in the right direction to get started?
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Anyone can point us to the right direction for rooting?
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zubero said:
Anyone can point us to the right direction for rooting?
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+1 for OC2, I mean all, I, am, seeing is Downgrade options to 4.4 KitKat then towel root then Safestrap then flash slotted Updated Lollipop Rom? All, I want is to remove bloat and use exposed, is there a root for OC2? Without downgrading thanks
Here's the video for downgrading and rooting. Then after that you can use any of the builds available. I'm using Alliance v12. Works like a charm,I almost gave up on my phone and was about to buy a new one. After downgrading to NC2,rooted and the pushing in Alliance 12 it's back. Thank you community.
https://youtu.be/QL6V7Y8vNms
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zubero said:
Here's the video for downgrading and rooting. Then after that you can use any of the builds available. I'm using Alliance v12. Works like a charm,I almost gave up on my phone and was about to buy a new one. After downgrading to NC2,rooted and the pushing in Alliance 12 it's back. Thank you community.
https://youtu.be/QL6V7Y8vNms
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So you downgraded to NC2 which I'm assuming is 4.4.2 becuase Im on NJ5, downgraded to NC2 or Jellybean I think and rooted with towel root and installed safestrap via the instructions, but when I try to reboot into Safestrap after installing and it installs, I grant it Superuser, and click Reboot to Recovery and nothing happens, any ideas? Becuase I need Safestrap, so I can flash Alliance, or Backup or anything else, but there are SO MANY conflicting OP's, regaurding Safestrap "it abandoned", "it only works on 4.2.2", "there's a work around for Safestrap on 4.4.4, by flashing Kitcat Kernal" "or Safestrap will work on on OC1 also with correct kernel"
All I want is to be on the "LATEST FIRMWARE FOR THIS PHONE, THAT WILL ALLOW ME TO EFFECTIVELY USE SAFESTRAP, TO BACK UP, FLASH, AND RUN ALLIANCE ETC..."
IF that means being someone a beer, I'm cool with that, been around here for awhile and had many Samsung phone Notes One, Two, S3, S4, but never had to deal with this bootloader crap, just so frustrated at this point[emoji726]
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Did you install busybox before installing safestrap?
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Yeah I'm pretty sure I did I mean I have Busy box installed of course, and Safestrap, and I'm not sure in what order, however if Busy box was causing the issue, then Safestrap would not install at all, right? But yes now that I remember, when I got this phone it was already updated to OC1 (at that time the latest build) after try to sift through all the different out dated tutorials, I finally just did what I mentioned above, but Safestrap "Installs fine", "Allows me to grant SU", then "allows me to (click)" reboot to recovery" then FAIL.... nothing happens, on NJ5, I know Safestrap ended development at some point, and don't you also have to flash a certain kernel in order for SS to work on KK? So Confused
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You need to install Busybox, then open busybox and tell it to install it into the system
Then open safestrap and do likewise.
I did this on nc2 no idea how it'll work on an older version.
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mrkhigh said:
You need to install Busybox, then open busybox and tell it to install it into the system
Then open safestrap and do likewise.
I did this on nc2 no idea how it'll work on an older version.
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so mrkhigh, thank you by the way first! off, to your response, so as far as you know "Safestrap" did not require any additional steps, to work on 4.3, like an updated kernel, which I know makes no sense to me eithier, other than the permission changes that occured at the true root level on NJ5 Update, and SafeStrap itself not being a true recovery, in the word of true TWRP, per this pain in my @$$ bootloader, which I have already made knowen in this community, AND others, is simply a loophole, to the "right to modify" ruling by the FTC some years back, if you will to the carriers, at&fee included among others
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Hello, I'm wondering if they've made any advancement on the Samfail root method for the Note 8 AT&T version. I'm finding that I'm running into circumstances where I need to be able to flash a zip. This is still not possible, correct?
2Tone23 said:
Hello, I'm wondering if they've made any advancement on the Samfail root method for the Note 8 AT&T version. I'm finding that I'm running into circumstances where I need to be able to flash a zip. This is still not possible, correct?
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Just check the Samfail thread. It's up to v3 for the latest 7.1.1 software we have. It does not root Oreo, but it will downgrade you from it back to 7.1.1 to be able to root.
Jammol said:
Just check the Samfail thread. It's up to v3 for the latest 7.1.1 software we have. It does not root Oreo, but it will downgrade you from it back to 7.1.1 to be able to root.
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Thank you, Jammol. I'm actually rooted, but I was out of the loop due awhile and I was wondering if full root had been managed. They finally achieved it on the Note 5 AT&T version, only after I got rid of it. Hoping lightning will strike twice, you know?
2Tone23 said:
Thank you, Jammol. I'm actually rooted, but I was out of the loop due awhile and I was wondering if full root had been managed. They finally achieved it on the Note 5 AT&T version, only after I got rid of it. Hoping lightning will strike twice, you know?
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Full root as in TWRP and such? We have full root but with a locked bootloader. Flashfire can be used to flash stock roms for the Snapdragon variant. Safestrap was just released for it as well but currently only the "Stock" slot can be used. And yes the 80% battery limit is very much still there.
So I can actually flash custom roms with this lock bootloader on this variant? Also, safestrap will allow me to flash custom roms as well?
Jammol said:
Full root as in TWRP and such? We have full root but with a locked bootloader. Flashfire can be used to flash stock roms for the Snapdragon variant. Safestrap was just released for it as well but currently only the "Stock" slot can be used. And yes the 80% battery limit is very much still there.
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So I can actually flash custom roms with this locked bootloader on this variant?. Also, safestrap will allow me to flash custom roms as well? I hope I understand you right, Jammol. To be able to finally do that would make me a happy man. Also, is there any advantage to using Safestrap over Samfail? I used Safestrap with my S5.
2Tone23 said:
So I can actually flash custom roms with this locked bootloader on this variant?. Also, safestrap will allow me to flash custom roms as well? I hope I understand you right, Jammol. To be able to finally do that would make me a happy man. Also, is there any advantage to using Safestrap over Samfail? I used Safestrap with my S5.
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Correct, but you can't get to Safestrap without being rooted first, which requires Samfail.
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Correct, but you can't get to Safestrap without being rooted first, which requires Samfail.
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Thanx. I'm Samfail rooted already. Going to install safestrap. Can you direct toward some custom stock roms that might flash? I've had no luck thus far.... And thank you for all the info. If not for you I wouldn't even know Safestrap and flashing was even available.
2Tone23 said:
Thanx. I'm Samfail rooted already. Going to install safestrap. Can you direct toward some custom stock roms that might flash? I've had no luck thus far.... And thank you for all the info. If not for you I wouldn't even know Safestrap and flashing was even available.
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Currently there are only 2 roms we can flash. FENNEC and Culpeo.
FENNEC is based on the U1 (unlocked firmware), so there's no carrier bloatware.
Culpeo is based on U or carrier firmware. The bloat will come with the CSC you flash for your particular firmware. There are CSC edits in there for things such as VoLTE, Wi-Fi Calling, etc.
These are both based on the latest 7.1.1 version respectively. I have personally ran both but I was partial to FENNEC because I hate carrier bloat.
Both are located on the Development section. There are more roms coming so don't be deterred.
Jammol said:
Currently there are only 2 roms we can flash. FENNEC and Culpeo.
FENNEC is based on the U1 (unlocked firmware), so there's no carrier bloatware.
Culpeo is based on U or carrier firmware. The bloat will come with the CSC you flash for your particular firmware. There are CSC edits in there for things such as VoLTE, Wi-Fi Calling, etc.
These are both based on the latest 7.1.1 version respectively. I have personally ran both but I was partial to FENNEC because I hate carrier bloat.
Both are located on the Development section. There are more roms coming so don't be deterred.
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Jammol, I really appreciate your responsiveness and all of the knowledge you've provided. Thanks you!
Jammol, trying to figure out why Safestrap won't take. Busybox up and running. After hitting install it goes thru its paces and says I install successfully, or something similar, but above that where it says State it still reads not installed. I see it with granted access in Su. But when rebooting I do not get the splash screen. Any ideas?
2Tone23 said:
Jammol, trying to figure out why Safestrap won't take. Busybox up and running. After hitting install it goes thru its paces and says I install successfully, or something similar, but above that where it says State it still reads not installed. I see it with granted access in Su. But when rebooting I do not get the splash screen. Any ideas?
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I have the free version of Busy Box installed. Tried installing the pro version in case that would somehow facilitate the installation of Safestrap and the pro version won't install either. The notice suggests I try installing in another location. Not sure how to do that. Can anyone advise me on this and /or how I can get Safestrap to install?
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Jammol, trying to figure out why Safestrap won't take. Busybox up and running. After hitting install it goes thru its paces and says I install successfully, or something similar, but above that where it says State it still reads not installed. I see it with granted access in Su. But when rebooting I do not get the splash screen. Any ideas?
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In the Safestrap thread there were a few users that had that issue occur. I don't know what the Fix was for them, if it was fixed, as I haven't followed that development for a few days now. I suggest giving the OP of that thread a full read through again and read through the comments/replies of what others have done so far to solve their issues.
Thanx Jammol. Actually perused that before my last post. Will look again. Hope I missed something, but I dont think so.
Jammol said:
In the Safestrap thread there were a few users that had that issue occur. I don't know what the Fix was for them, if it was fixed, as I haven't followed that development for a few days now. I suggest giving the OP of that thread a full read through again and read through the comments/replies of what others have done so far to solve their issues.
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Thanx Jammol. Actually perused that before my last post. Will look again. Hope I missed something, but I dont think so.
2Tone23 said:
Thanx Jammol. Actually perused that before my last post. Will look again. Hope I missed something, but I dont think so.
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No problem. Let me know. There are some bugs with it though so posting Safestrap related questions there would be the best thing to do. I merely fiddled with it for about a day at most and had to return to stock(work reasons).
Thanks, J. Really appreciate your feedback. Will let you know if something gives.
Jammol said:
No problem. Let me know. There are some bugs with it though so posting Safestrap related questions there would be the best thing to do. I merely fiddled with it for about a day at most and had to return to stock(work reasons).
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Thanks, J. Really appreciate your feedback. Will let you know if something gives.
(Eventually, I'm going to get this reply thing right. ?)
2Tone23 said:
Thanks, J. Really appreciate your feedback. Will let you know if something gives.
(Eventually, I'm going to get this reply thing right. ?)
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Lol, no problem.