Battery life, Performance & Android 4.4.2 queries - Galaxy S 4 Active Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi there!
I currently have the Galaxy S4 LTE version and planning on replacing it with a rustproof/shockproof/wtaerproof Android phone. My next plan is to get the S4 Active but is it any good?
I don't mind the 8MP camera but is any good or better than the S3? Having TFT screen would that mean colours, contrast, brightness,blacks are not as punchy as its S4 AMOLED counterpart?
Haven't heard of poor battery life but with so much bloateware installed i expect it to be at par (at least) with the S4. True?
Is the general performance as good as the S4? And is Android 4.4.2/3/4 available now to download?
Please advice.

Gino76ph said:
Hi there!
I currently have the Galaxy S4 LTE version and planning on replacing it with a rustproof/shockproof/wtaerproof Android phone. My next plan is to get the S4 Active but is it any good?
I don't mind the 8MP camera but is any good or better than the S3? Having TFT screen would that mean colours, contrast, brightness,blacks are not as punchy as its S4 AMOLED counterpart?
Haven't heard of poor battery life but with so much bloateware installed i expect it to be at par (at least) with the S4. True?
Is the general performance as good as the S4? And is Android 4.4.2/3/4 available now to download?
Please advice.
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I would highly advise against getting the Active as it has little to no support of any kind being that it is a carrier exclusive phone. Even just finding a good case for the phone is a struggle. The software is shoddy too and water resistance is questionable. I regret not getting the standard S4.

I have both. Performance wise the active is way better. Just no real support, for now.

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Which One

hi all
i need your suggestions about xperia z1 and gs4 i9500.now a days i am planning to buy phone but i am confused which one should i select between these cells gs4 i9500 or xperia z1?
anybody can suggest me which one is the best between these two cells?
which one is best performance wise?
which one is best camera results wise? i saw pictures and videos both these cells on some forum and i surprised to see that gs4 camera result is better than xperia z1 but how is it possible that gs4 is camera result is better than xperia z1 because xperia z1 has 20 MP camera?
and the last question is that which one is best battery life wise?
If I were you id go with the X1. The ui is Much nicer, the Phone just looks gorgeous and is Made of good Materials, and Its faster the camera thing is afaik a Software issue thats fairly cpmmon on Sony phones So just play with. The settings a Bit Also tje 21 Mp are only while taking 4:3 piczures so a Lot of People get their hopes too high when comparing the z1 camera with other smartphone cameras.. But go with the z1 you will like it and Its waterproof
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When I decided to buy my Z, I look at S4 and saw that the rounded corner design looks like the rest of the other Samsung phones.
So I bought the Z. Performance wise, not groundbreaking difference. Looks and feel, very different...
More Suggestions please.....
No Touchwiz.
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I would either go with the s4 or Korean version of the g2. S4 because of better screen and removable battery and better camera than the z and comparable with the z1 but top reason better battery consumption in my opinion and longer video playback and web browsing. Korean version of G2 because removable battery and camera with ois for better video recording and better low light pictures and videos and a bigger screen but smaller in size than the z1.The only thing that bothers me about the g2 isnthr placement of the volume rocker and the power button . That's bout it. The IP rating is the one of the few things that get my interest in the z but after a while I don't really care about it . It never get near water at all but its a good feature to have.
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I would either go with the s4 or Korean version of the g2. S4 because of better screen and removable battery and better camera than the z and comparable with the z1 but top reason better battery consumption in my opinion and longer video playback and web browsing. Korean version of G2 because removable battery and camera with ois for better video recording and better low light pictures and videos and a bigger screen but smaller in size than the z1.The only thing that bothers me about the g2 isnthr placement of the volume rocker and the power button . That's bout it. The IP rating is the one of the few things that get my interest in the z but after a while I don't really care about it . It never get near water at all but its a good feature to have.
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I disagree. The z1 destroys the s4 in almost every aspect. Its faster, better built, bigger battery, better camera and allthough the screen has worse viewing angles its true to life, unlike the oversaturation of samsungs. The g2 vs z1 vs note 3 is a better comparison. Also the s4 camera is comparable to the z and g2, not superior.
The only superiority you are seeing is post processing since they all use the identical exmor rs modules,
Sonys software is notoriously shoddy with their cameras since they make the sensors for most highend devices, they put their latest tech in their devices first. This gives no time for sotware development. The 13.1mp exmor rs module came out in feb 2013, the z came out that same month, hiw could they possibly have tested proper processing mechanics in time? Each firmware relase seems to improve the quality.
The z1 sensor is larger, higher pixel count (can do lossless zoom like the nokia), faster aperture, wider capture range. In pure specs it is a superior camera and it will improve with firmware.
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I disagree. The z1 destroys the s4 in almost every aspect. Its faster, better built, bigger battery, better camera and allthough the screen has worse viewing angles its true to life, unlike the oversaturation of samsungs. The g2 vs z1 vs note 3 is a better comparison. Also the s4 camera is comparable to the z and g2, not superior.
The only superiority you are seeing is post processing since they all use the identical exmor rs modules,
Sonys software is notoriously shoddy with their cameras since they make the sensors for most highend devices, they put their latest tech in their devices first. This gives no time for sotware development. The 13.1mp exmor rs module came out in feb 2013, the z came out that same month, hiw could they possibly have tested proper processing mechanics in time? Each firmware relase seems to improve the quality.
The z1 sensor is larger, higher pixel count (can do lossless zoom like the nokia), faster aperture, wider capture range. In pure specs it is a superior camera and it will improve with firmware.
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Its just my opinion . And my opinions are based on real life hands on by using my cousins s4 . And picture quality and video from video reviews . And for being faster etc , is it that fast like seconds faster ? And if I'm not wrong I forgot which site that I visit that the s4 is one of the best in battery consumption. Well i guess op just have to go to a shop and try out all the handsets and decide on his own.
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Here http://blog.gsmarena.com/the-sony-xperia-z1-battery-tests-are-done-heres-the-score/ just look at the web browsing and video playback time of the s4 and z1.S4 has better web browsing and video playback. And imo that is the two of the main things we do with our phones.
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Its just my opinion . And my opinions are based on real life hands on by using my cousins s4 . And picture quality and video from video reviews . And for being faster etc , is it that fast like seconds faster ? And if I'm not wrong I forgot which site that I visit that the s4 is one of the best in battery consumption. Well i guess op just have to go to a shop and try out all the handsets and decide on his own.
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Here http://blog.gsmarena.com/the-sony-xperia-z1-battery-tests-are-done-heres-the-score/ just look at the web browsing and video playback time of the s4 and z1.S4 has better web browsing and video playback. And imo that is the two of the main things we do with our phones.
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Fair enough, it's your opinion.
But the cpu is more than just speed, it's the SOC, as a whole. In particularly the gpu (these are 1080p devices) and the newer adreno 330 is significantly faster than the adreno 320. 50% more infact. Add a newer architecture, improved memory speed.
And with the cameras, when conparing a z and s4 side by side. You immediately get a slap in the face from the colours the display produces. to the untrained eye the s4 produces better results simply from the exaggerated colours on screen. Transfer the photos onto the same device and the difference is insignificant (the z initially had over agressive noise reduction which was corrected in firmware, which is why early reviews gave the edge to the s4).
I see what your saying about the battery, dissapointing cconsidering the sheer size. Hopefully it'll improve in fitmware.
Would I buy a s4 over a z1? No chance. Maybe a nexus 5, g2 or note 3 but not a s4.
I had s3 and note 2 last time I decided to buy new phone same one told me to go for z. So I was between s4 or z because of very good reviews I bought xperia z AND I REGRET IT EVERY DAY. Xperia Z is a good machine but not what I wanted. If you like to root your phone and like to play with different rooms /mods then stay away from xperia
Lol.. With z1 you can't even compare s4. Trust me I've seen both the phones personally. Z1 looks so premium. I would personally go with z. Amazing camera features as well. And customisation wise, really.. It doesn't matter as long as stock is good. I've tried all Roms around for zl. And frankly I just reverted back to stock. And if you want pure stock feel Go with next nexus 5.
What exactly are you trying compare here anyways
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If you like to root your phone and like to play with different rooms /mods then stay away from xperia
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Are you a noob or just some kind of troll? The Xperia phones are the most userfriendly when it comes to rooting / modding / tweaking, compared to the Samsung ones.. Ever heard of the anti-rooting KNOX warranty-breaking thing that Samsung is so proud of?
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Gs3 vs gs5

I have the gs3. I love the phone. It is still a good phone just like I miss my old htc evo. I was thinking about upgade to the GS5. What better than specs. The look and feel is the same. I mean the software. It nothing different. What you think pro and cons. im iffy on picking another galaxy or might go back to htc.
I understand your situation, I more or less was in the same place as you. I had the HTC one S and it was a great phone, built quality and the ui was superb. I went then to the S3, good phone not as good as the one S( the lag ?) but it had more features.
I went for a upgrade last week and I was in between the One M8 and the S5, the HTC is more snappy and it looks beautiful but then again I choose a galaxy, why? Well.... The features and camera but essentially the removable battery...
I guess in the end you will have to go through the same process and see which features you value more, what fits me may not fit you and I guess there no right or wrong here.
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I have the SGS3 too and am looking to upgrade.
The SGS5 feels more of the same Samsung experience, and I want something better.
I would choose another brand: HTC, Motorola, LG, Sony...
I hate the build quality of the SGS5, the AMOLED screen (I hate saturated colors), the hardware home button and capacitive buttons instead of on screen buttons, the annoying USB flap cover, the chrome bezel that will wear off and look terrible in 2 years just like in my SGS3, TouchWiz is still the worst skin (looks and performance and it takes a LOT of RAM compared to other skins), etc.
I'm looking to buy the X+1 or maybe Moto G2.
I had the S3 and S4, and now the S5.
I liked each one more than the previous one, and each one had better battery duration than the previous one.
I felt a better upgrate from the S4 to S5 than from the S3 to the S4.
I love the S5 camera, and the samsung software and apps.
I think you will like it a lot, personally i am already wanting the S6, (Hopping for at least 20MP camera, would love more ), i will keep my S5 as a tablet and spare phone, since i like it a lot.
I use it with touchwiz and havent rooted it yet, i will after i get the S6, since i will only need root for tablet functions i will use.
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I have the SGS3 too and am looking to upgrade.
The SGS5 feels more of the same Samsung experience, and I want something better.
I would choose another brand: HTC, Motorola, LG, Sony...
I hate the build quality of the SGS5, the AMOLED screen (I hate saturated colors), the hardware home button and capacitive buttons instead of on screen buttons, the annoying USB flap cover, the chrome bezel that will wear off and look terrible in 2 years just like in my SGS3, TouchWiz is still the worst skin (looks and performance and it takes a LOT of RAM compared to other skins), etc.
I'm looking to buy the X+1 or maybe Moto G2.
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What are you talking about? GS5 has THE best screen as of today. If you choose the cinema mode, you get perfect color saturation.
If I want to get picky, then here it is...
HTC : hate camera and fugly internal build (they use too much tape)
Moto : also hate camera, old hardware (i don't care how optimized the software is, I'm not paying for old hardware), no sdcard, no removable battery.
LG : too large for my taste.
Sony : hasn't come out for VZW. no removable battery
G3 cons
Screen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2797810
http://anandtech.com/show/8169/the-lg-g3-review/2
http://www.ixbt.com/mobile/images/lg-g3/vs-black-angle-alt-l.jpg
http://www.ixbt.com/mobile/images/lg-g3/vs-pict-angle-l.jpg
http://www.ixbt.com/mobile/lg-g3.shtml#display-test
Camera
s5
g3
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http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/C...one-5s-LG-G2-Sony-Xperia-Z2-HTC-One-M8_id3728
http://blog.gsmarena.com/weekend-poll-lg-g3-vs-samsung-galaxy-s5/
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...hird-time-in-a-row-LG-G3-close-second_id57178
Plastic body
No waterpoof
Lags
Pros
Thin bezels
OIS
S5 cons:
No OIS
PWM (240 ghz flickering at medium and low brightness) (perhaps fixed in LTE-A)
Not good calibration (In LTE-A almost fixed, in Galaxy Alpha even better than LTE-A)
Plastic body (fixed in Galaxy Alpha)
Oversaturate and rosiness in some situations in camera (fixed in Galaxy Alpha)
pros:
Oled (ideal response time (good in video), ideal black color, ideal contrast, ideal viewing angle, all much better than lcd)
Isocell (better detailing and awesome ideal colors if the firmware is normal (Alpha)
Waterproof
I have both, If you want FLUID, GS5 my S5 is as fluid as hell... Very nice experience, touchwiz is basically the same but speed and zappiness is much better, Screen quality is AMAZING, and camera\video? LOL you will laugh when you compare the S3 with the S5
I was in same place. Felt tired after my S3 with samsung. But in end wasn't impressed with HTC, windows options were pants and apple? Rather eat glass.
Got the S5 and haven't looked back. Faster, better screen and way better battery. As for the size. You quickly get use to it. Fits in my pocket fine. Holding S3 now, just feels tiny.
I've had the S5 since it came out and upgraded from the S3. The two biggest differences for me are the camera and screen quality. Those two things alone made me satisfied with the upgrade. Its also noticeably faster than the S3 and the water resistance is also nice. I haven't had a chance to play with any of the newer HTC phones so I can't offer any information there but overall I'm happy with the S5.
I have a sgs3 and the touchwiz is kinda laggy and also the preinstalled apps of samsung. My question is did samsung make any improvement in the touchwiz on kitkat? Did you see any difference? Is it any faster than the s3? Im thinking buying the note 4 but im worried about the touchwiz beeing slow and laggy
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I have a sgs3 and the touchwiz is kinda laggy and also the preinstalled apps of samsung. My question is did samsung make any improvement in the touchwiz on kitkat? Did you see any difference? Is it any faster than the s3? Im thinking buying the note 4 but im worried about the touchwiz beeing slow and laggy
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I think touchwiz definitely runs better on the S5 compared to the S3. I also rooted mine soon after buying it and removed most of the preinstalled stuff, so that helped as well.
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I think touchwiz definitely runs better on the S5 compared to the S3. I also rooted mine soon after buying it and removed most of the preinstalled stuff, so that helped as well.
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How about the gallery app does is it still slow?
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I'm completely in agreement with santa_claws the touchwiz experience is much more fluid. I too graduated from the s2 > s3 > s4 > s5 and with each upgrade I've come to expect more from Samsung. To my surprise they outdid themselves with the s5.
Being a juice freak I am STUNNED at the battery life. The screen display? omg. The camera? Fagetaboutit. Upgrade bro. Trust me. It will alter your view of the universe.
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I'm completely in agreement with santa_claws the touchwiz experience is much more fluid. I too graduated from the s2 > s3 > s4 > s5 and with each upgrade I've come to expect more from Samsung. To my surprise they outdid themselves with the s5.
Being a juice freak I am STUNNED at the battery life. The screen display? omg. The camera? Fagetaboutit. Upgrade bro. Trust me. It will alter your view of the universe.
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I love the S5 camera, and the fact that its waterproof
I had the S3 when it came out 2 years ago, I don't miss it at all. I'm coming from the Nexus 5 which was smooth as hell. You need some light mods on the S5 to make it even. Beside that, it's probably the best device I've owned. Awesome camera, waterproof, got plenty of videos underwater when I was in the south. Good battery life way better than the S3,you have air gesture, etc...
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I'm completely in agreement with santa_claws the touchwiz experience is much more fluid. I too graduated from the s2 > s3 > s4 > s5 and with each upgrade I've come to expect more from Samsung. To my surprise they outdid themselves with the s5.
Being a juice freak I am STUNNED at the battery life. The screen display? omg. The camera? Fagetaboutit. Upgrade bro. Trust me. It will alter your view of the universe.
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Yeah the camera and screen are pretty impressive. Before buying the phone I looked at some sample shots and didn't understand what all the hype was about. But then I realized that I was viewing the pics on my S3 with a lower resolution screen, lol. Once I viewed them on a decent quality screen I saw the huge difference.
And you are spot on about battery life. Much improved although I still carry an external battery with me for days of heavy use.
Lol yes that would definitely play a factor. Shoot I went a step further, I force fit an extended battery with an otterbox Defender case by cutting out a portion of the hard plastic. Works great and battery life is outstanding!
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Lol yes that would definitely play a factor. Shoot I went a step further, I force fit an extended battery with an otterbox Defender case by cutting out a portion of the hard plastic. Works great and battery life is outstanding!
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I usually carry the external to charge my other devices (bluetooth headphones, tablet) but thats only when I have my bookbag with me. For the times I'm without my bag I like your idea. Would you mind posting your battery stats with your setup? Maybe I'll give it a try.

Has the battery TECHNOLOGY changed between the S3 and S6?

As an S3 user who can upgrade the value proposition seems slim unless newer battery technology has been incorporated. I tried the ATT s6 and s6 edge in store, compared to my custom lollipop it seems just as snappy. Many people say the battery life between both models has been ambiguous with icnreases in technology being eaten up by higher hardware demands. My phone isn't going to be used for media heavy applicatoins, and the s3 can stream the quality of video I need over any network.
So this brings up the propsitiion ,s it worth moving from the s3 to s6. What new battery technolgoies should I be on the look out for in newer phones or new phones themselves?
The main technology (li-ion) is the same.
Your phone will have better battery life due to more efficient processor, but some of that is negated by more pixels on the screen.
You'll get a better camera, in every way, with the S6.
You'll get significantly more LTE bands, so travel will be less of an issue.
Those are the main advantages, I would say you'll see faster sppeds/better multitasking, but you'll mostly see it in games, not so much everyday use if you have a good custom ROM.
You'll lose a lot of the custom ROM scene though. Only a few to choose from and no custom kernels or recoveries due to the locked bootloader.
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For me, the camera and nice screen are the best selling points. I came from an LG optimus G (basically a nexus 4, late 2012 device). The LGOG is on an AOSP based 5.1.1 ROM, that is stable, and just as fast and smooth, from a UI standpoint, as the S6. It has a moderately smaller battery, with something in the neighborhood of 800 charge cycles on it - battery life between the two phones is reasonably comparable - 16 to 18 hours off charger and 3.5-4 hours screen on. Head to head, the S6 might have a slight advantage, but I only have one active SIM so can't do a real test. The S6 does definitely out perform the LGOG in more processor intensive takes (as it should) but the LGOG is still hugely superior at multitasking.
But the camera on the S6 is amazing. Took some video on my bike yesterday at twilight - the camera/display combo was actually brighter than reality. Very cool. The image quality is just leaps and bounds ahead. I've never had a phone with a "good" camera before, and it's very nice not to have to try to decide if it's worth it to carry my point and shoot camera anymore. The phone is now better.

Is the Z3C still worth to buy?

Hello everyone!
Right now I own a Moto X (2013) and I love it mainly because of the size of the screen, it actually fits in my pockets! But as of late, the battery is already draining a bit fast, and the camera has never been very good either. So I'm looking for a phone to replace it that has a better camera, battery and keeps about the same performance. The problem lies in the big sized phones available today! They're huge. I don't want it to exceed the 5.2 inch display size, nor it be larger than 140mm approximately.
So I thought about the Z3C. I also considered the new Xperia M5 (not yet on sale) (145mm long) or even wait for the Z5 Compact. What do you guys recommend? Is the Z3C still worth it?
I think the camera is is pretty good on the Z3C but I am no photographer. It suits my needs well. I think you will have a hard time finding a small phone (or any phone) that matches the battery life of the Z3C. For that reason alone, I think it is work it. I also think the Z3C is a nice looking phone. I also have a 2013 Moto X and loved it until I got spoiled by the Z3C's battery. You should find the Z3C to be faster and have better performance overall.
Z3 battery life is great and it fits in pocket much better than some of the slabs available now.
If you dont want to pay a premium for the absolute latest and greatest but want a phone that just works really well, i think the z3C is pretty good value.
Glass screen protector and decent case are a must though as although IP68 rated, dont think its very "drop proof".
- The Z3C battery life takes a hit with Lollipop though (damn mobile radio active bug), so if you're not satisfied, you can always roll back to KitKat for the best performance.
- The camera's auto-mode is decent in well lit conditions (tends to over-expose), but is sub-par indoors. It lacks sharpness once you zoom in on the picture. It actually excels in some low-light conditions due to the higher ISO, but most people don't need to take photos in a dark room.
- Over all, you won't find a better phone with more features at this price point that actually fits in one hand comfortably. Plus, it's waterproof.
That being said though, the new Z5C is supposed to be announced this week. Wait a few days and see if it's worth the upgrade or not.
Still the best compact phone (< 5") out at the moment. I just find Sony's politics towards homebrew and open source dev going slowly from mediocre to worse.
Z5c may be announced tomorrow so you may as well wait a day and see, but if it's, as rumoured, released with a Snapdragon 810 chip, Z3c may remain on top of the category until the next iteration...
Until the Z4C releases yes.
There is no Z4C - Sony skips a generation for the compacts. It will be a Z5C instead.
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- The Z3C battery life takes a hit with Lollipop though (damn mobile radio active bug), so if you're not satisfied, you can always roll back to KitKat for the best performance.
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rafabr4 said:
Hello everyone!
Right now I own a Moto X (2013) and I love it mainly because of the size of the screen, it actually fits in my pockets! But as of late, the battery is already draining a bit fast, and the camera has never been very good either. So I'm looking for a phone to replace it that has a better camera, battery and keeps about the same performance. The problem lies in the big sized phones available today! They're huge. I don't want it to exceed the 5.2 inch display size, nor it be larger than 140mm approximately.
So I thought about the Z3C. I also considered the new Xperia M5 (not yet on sale) (145mm long) or even wait for the Z5 Compact. What do you guys recommend? Is the Z3C still worth it?
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I am/was basically in the same situation as you! I also own a moto x 2013 an love it because of the screen size. It has a great feel in the hand, actually usable with one hand and it fits in the pocket nicely. But my battery life has gotten horrible since Lollipop, even with cm 12.1. I don't really care about the camera that much, and the performance was always great although lately its been starting to feel a little sluggish.
I researched for over a month but couldn't find any other good alternatives at this size. The only other option is the galaxy alpha ( but there are various complications with rooting, versions, LTE etc).
I finally gave up and went with the Z3C. Just got mine like yesterday though so I'm still in the process of setting everything up and transferring my stuff over. So far I really like it. It looks and feels nice and premium. It doesn't have as nice of a feel in the hand as the x because the back is flat and not curved. Software wise I will probably miss active display, but it seems like sony also included some neat features. Stereo speakers are just a different (better) experience than the moto speaker on the back. The contrast of the screen isn't as nice as the AMOLED on the x. But I definitely notice it being faster, which is nice. and so far the battery life seems to be amazing. I'll see how it is in a few days once everything is set up and I'm using it more, and then I can let you know. But so far it seems like I made a good decision.
Hope this helps.
I would go for the new z5 compact , if you dont care about custom roms, then go for the z3c , that is if you care about camera.
overall, get z3c for performance, looks, and cheaper than new z5c.
or z5c if you have money, probably better performance, bit expensive, no root yet.
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- The Z3C battery life takes a hit with Lollipop though (damn mobile radio active bug), so if you're not satisfied, you can always roll back to KitKat for the be.
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There is a working Xposed module that fixes that.
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There is a working Xposed module that fixes that.
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I know, but does it actually with for you? How much improvement have you seen? The thread for that fix is full of mixed results.
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Before buying/ordering the Z5c I would strongly advise anyone to wait until someone reliable thoroughly tests the Z5c to make sure the Snapdragon 810 version it sports has no heating induced performance issues.
It's not because "they" say the issues have been fixed that you should trust them. Anyway it's your call...
The reviews I've seen show that the camera is still painfully slow between shots. That .003 sec autofocus doesn't do us any good if you have to wait 2 seconds to take the next picture.

Sub 4.8" phone - should I get S5 mini?

I am looking for a new sub 4.8” phone. I had S4 mini once and the size was perfect. I then upgraded to LG G2 and it is frequently inconvenient to carry. Actually, when I think about it, the weight might be more important then than size, so provided the phone is light, I could go a bit larger than 4.8"
The things I MUST have:
- good camera: At least on the S4 level
- very good battery life
- MicroSD card slot, OR at least 50GB internal storage
- Android M: from manufacturer, I need photo quality at the highest possible level so that rules out CM13
- root
Things it would be nice to have, but can live without:
- NFC
- dual sim
- waterproof
Things I do not care for at all:
- gaming: I have been using a smartphone since 10 years now, and not once I played a game on it
- production year: I don’t care if the phone is 2016 or 2013, as long as it fits the bill
Here are the phones I already considered and rejected:
- Xperia Z3c: perfect phone with clown camera
- Xperia Z5c: after 4 hours of research it looks like Sony again made the camera not very good (might reconsider if it turns out the camera is actually good)
- Galaxy S5 mini: I read it is a downgrade form S4 mini (but if it is only about GPU then I might reconsider)
- LG G2 mini: good camera, size and battery, but no M, LTE and 1 GB of ram is a serious tradeoff
- Redmi 3: bad camera
- Mi4c: so-so camera and battery life
- Mi5: size, so-so camera
- Meizu Pro 5: OMG this phone is PERFECT... Except for being a shovel. Such a pity they never completed Pro 5 Mini.
Suggestions and comments will be appreciated.
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I'm on the same boat as you. What did you decided?
ArcherGT2 said:
I'm on the same boat as you. What did you decided?
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There is nothing.
Galaxy S5 mini probably comes the closest, but it is still disqualified by crappy fingerprint scanner, slow CPU and possibly problems updating to Marshmallow. If I HAD to buy a phone, I would probably get it, But it is not enough to justify a switch from Lg G2 (especially, since there is some progress in works on getting stock LG G2 camera quality on CM-based roms).
I am waiting for S7 mini, but it looks like it might share the faith of S6 mini (ie. it won't exist).
So for the time being I am sticking to my Lg G2 f320 and hoping a trend to smaller flagships that has appearently bashfully began, will bear some smaller flagship-grade phones.
Well, let's hold hands until that happens hahaha
Cheers mate
impactor said:
There is nothing.
Galaxy S5 mini probably comes the closest, but it is still disqualified by crappy fingerprint scanner, slow CPU and possibly problems updating to Marshmallow. If I HAD to buy a phone, I would probably get it, But it is not enough to justify a switch from Lg G2 (especially, since there is some progress in works on getting stock LG G2 camera quality on CM-based roms).
I am waiting for S7 mini, but it looks like it might share the faith of S6 mini (ie. it won't exist).
So for the time being I am sticking to my Lg G2 f320 and hoping a trend to smaller flagships that has appearently bashfully began, will bear some smaller flagship-grade phones.
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The new Galaxy A (2016) series are actually the new S7/S6 mini-s! Why not?
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Hicham03 said:
The new Galaxy A (2016) series are actually the new S7/S6 mini-s! Why not?
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Let me look at my notes for 'why not'... Let's see... Ah, here it is:
- as heavy or heavier as the certainly not 'mini' Lg G2
- not waterproof
- no optical stabilization of camera
impactor said:
Let me look at my notes for 'why not'... Let's see... Ah, here it is:
- as heavy or heavier as the certainly not 'mini' Lg G2
- not waterproof
- no optical stabilization of camera
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Oh, I see...
I'll search about the phone that match your criteria..
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