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Hi all, traditionally Motorola has been releasing the Droid range under the Milestone name here in England, but i havent seen this particular phone anywhere, it is branded under a different name or just simply unavailable? I love qwerty Android phones and the spec is very tempting.
Thanks.
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I did a little research and it seems the keyboard Milestones ended with the release of the Milestone 2.
you should be able to use the droid 4 in the UK with the ICS leak, you just switch it to global mode
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you should be able to use the droid 4 in the UK with the ICS leak, you just switch it to global mode
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But will it support the 3G bands used here, that's my main concern as I use HSPA on Three UK.
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But will it support the 3G bands used here, that's my main concern as I use HSPA on Three UK.
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Yes, it will support standard 3G bands. I`m using it in Russia and in Europe.
I've tested my Droid 4 in the UK on O2 (900MHz) and T-Mobile (1800MHz). I've not tested it on Three though (2100MHz). On the two networks I have tested GRPS, EDGE, 3G and HSPA all work fine!
If you fancy a trip to South Wales you can try your 3 SIM in my Droid 4 before purchase if you like
That said, if you're planning on importing this phone, why would you even stick with a contract, and if you're not stuck in a contract why would you use Three? They are awful.
Three are fantastic, I get truly unlimited data that can be tethered and a ridiculous amount of minutes and texts, not to mention I get a great signal where I live and average at about 4.5mbps speed. No other network can offer me that. Cheers for the info though ill see if I can dig up any info re: 2100mhz band.
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Huh strange, I've looked online and there is absolutely no information for a gsm version of this phone, all point to a Verizon cdma device. Never mind looks like ill be on the old Desire Z a little longer ha ha.
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Huh strange, I've looked online and there is absolutely no information for a gsm version of this phone, all point to a Verizon cdma device. Never mind looks like ill be on the old Desire Z a little longer ha ha.
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It only works in the UK if you run on the leaked ICS firmware.
See my thread for the full procedure. But I'm running just fine on a rooted stock ROM (albeit the ICS leak) on Giffgaff (O2) in the UK.
And yes, I came from a Desire Z too! Real shame how few QWERTYphones there are these days that we even have to go to the effort of importing an American CDMA phone and hacking it.
Hi peops, I'm still on the old desire z too! Nothing better in the uk for 2 years! Unbelieveable! I was also hopeing for the droid 4, but typically, it doesn't get released here. There is the slight hope of the newly leaked samsung galaxy s blaze q being released over here as it will be on tmobile, but I bet it stayes in the us, yet again. Is being announced august 15th.
Problem is, it needs 2gb ram, not just 1!! Sort it out samsung!!
jmpcrx said:
Hi peops, I'm still on the old desire z too! Nothing better in the uk for 2 years! Unbelieveable! I was also hopeing for the droid 4, but typically, it doesn't get released here. There is the slight hope of the newly leaked samsung galaxy s blaze q being released over here as it will be on tmobile, but I bet it stayes in the us, yet again. Is being announced august 15th.
Problem is, it needs 2gb ram, not just 1!! Sort it out samsung!!
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Just import one yourself. £328 for a brand new one off ebay and £35 in import duties. Still cheaper than buying a brand new contract-free phone from a UK supplier!
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Just import one yourself. £328 for a brand new one off ebay and £35 in import duties. Still cheaper than buying a brand new contract-free phone from a UK supplier!
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Thing is, I use my fone as a modem for my pc via hotspot, through tmobile, I have a 3gb contract, but is actually truly unlimited if you know the secret (which I do - just ask if u don't know). I doubt id be able to get a decent amout of txts and calls for say 10-15 a month. And I bet the payg sims don't allow unlimited data. (I currently go though 10 - 20gb a month at the mo with tmobile).
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Just import one yourself. £328 for a brand new one off ebay and £35 in import duties. Still cheaper than buying a brand new contract-free phone from a UK supplier!
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Lum_UK said:
Just import one yourself. £328 for a brand new one off ebay and £35 in import duties. Still cheaper than buying a brand new contract-free phone from a UK supplier!
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Thing is, I use my fone as a modem for my pc via hotspot, through tmobile, I have a 3gb contract, but is actually truly unlimited if you know the secret (which I do - just ask if u don't know). I doubt id be able to get a decent amout of txts and calls for say 10-15 a month. And I bet thepayg sims don't allow unlimited data. (I currently go though 10 - 20gb a month at the mo with tmobile).
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Stupid phone
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Thing is, I use my fone as a modem for my pc via hotspot, through tmobile, I have a 3gb contract, but is actually truly unlimited if you know the secret (which I do - just ask if u don't know). I doubt id be able to get a decent amout of txts and calls for say 10-15 a month. And I bet the payg sims don't allow unlimited data. (I currently go though 10 - 20gb a month at the mo with tmobile).
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I'm told that with giffgaff you can get away with 750MB per day before they start getting funny with you and accusing you of tethering. Not tried it yet.
The Droid 4 works fine on T-Mobile though. I have tested it before I ported my number.
Are T-Mobile still offering that 3gb contract to new customers? I couldn't get it back at the start of 2011 when I switched to them.
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I'm told that with giffgaff you can get away with 750GB per day before they start getting funny with you and accusing you of tethering. Not tried it yet.
The Droid 4 works fine on T-Mobile though. I have tested it before I ported my number.
Are T-Mobile still offering that 3gb contract to new customers? I couldn't get it back at the start of 2011 when I switched to them.
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750GB per day? I think that counts as heavy usage!
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I'm told that with giffgaff you can get away with 750GB per day before they start getting funny with you and accusing you of tethering. Not tried it yet.
The Droid 4 works fine on T-Mobile though. I have tested it before I ported my number.
Are T-Mobile still offering that 3gb contract to new customers? I couldn't get it back at the start of 2011 when I switched to them.
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Hi, no they are not, I'm near the end of a 2 year contract, 1gb is the max now I think, but it doesn't really matter as when they restrict your usage from 4pm - midnight, all you have to do is turn flight mode on and off and bingo! No restrictions!
So simple, but it really does work!
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750GB per day? I think that counts as heavy usage!
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Typo.. I meant MB per day!
I have a I9305 purchased from Hong Kong which came loaded with HK firmware, whilst it would have worked, for various reasons I want to install UK firmware, specifically official/stock versions. (I have run custom ROMs on other handsets in the past, just going to stay official for a while with this one)
I don't want any carrier-specific stuff on there, nor so I want to be held back (in the future) waiting for carrier-specific upgrades etc.
I have a few, hopefully yes/no questions:
1. I've search and as far as I tell you there is no unbranded, UK, stock firmware available, is that correct? (guess this is because nobody's selling it unbranded in the UK yet)
2. Is the best thing to do to monitor sammobile and samsung-updates until I see what I want?
3. When I finally do get my hands on the firmware I'll flash it with Odin - will I automatically get subsequent updates via Kies/OTA?
I'm current running I9305XXALK3 for region DNF...which I thought might be international/country-agnostic but since the default language it offered me on first boot was Suomi I guess it's actually for Finland!
The phone works fine, but it's only Android 4.1.1 and obviously I'd like to get on 4.1.2, I suppose another country (e.g. Germany) but unbranded is ok...but not perfect
Apologies for the long, first, post, hope it's not too annoying...I'm just excited about retiring my Hero and enjoying this new beast!
1 Yes , here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1942150
2 Why wait
3 You will with the above
Enjoy your new beast
Raistlin1158 said:
1 Yes , here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1942150
2 Why wait
3 You will with the above
Enjoy your new beast
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Thanks for the response...but those are all EE branded, will that:
1. mean I have to wait for EE to approve future updates? (I'm thinking once we have unbranded/unlocked handsets in the UK they will receive upgrades first)
2. have any effect on the network e.g. performance, connectivity etc.? (I'm currently on 3, not EE/Orange)
Thanks for any additional info
No and there is no EE branding or bloatware just pure stock.
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No and there is no EE branding or bloatware just pure stock.
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Seriously!? - OK, that's great news - thank you for your help
hmmmmm...
OK, I've installed the latest i.e.
PDA: XXBMA6
PHONE: XXBLL5
CSC: EVRBLL1
A couple of observations:
1. As others have noted, the mobile network modes are limited to just 2 (2G/3G/4G auto connect & 3G only) whereas the previous firmware I was using had 4.
2. With the previous firmware it seemed to hold an H+ connection much better, with this firmware it seems to drop back to 3G+ most of the time.
Any thoughts? It would seem that this firmware, despite being official, is more limited than some others.
I'm not overly concerned with #1 (although does 3G only really mean just 3G or will it also use GPRS if that's all it can find?) but #2 (and I realise I haven't done any structured testing!) does worry me - I want the fastest speeds I can get as often as I can!
My gut feeling is that EE's firmware might not be optimal for those who want to operate on non-4G networks. (what does the Vodafone or O2 firmware have?)
Does anyone know for sure what's different and why?
Over active imagination?
Have flashed 3 different firmwares today
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1. As others have noted, the mobile network modes are limited to just 2 (2G/3G/4G auto connect & 3G only) whereas the previous firmware I was using had 4.
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^ this is true...but doesn't really bother me.
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2. With the previous firmware it seemed to hold an H+ connection much better, with this firmware it seems to drop back to 3G+ most of the time.
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^this I think is a mistake on my part, I've played around a bit more and it looks like (but could be my imagination of course!) that the phone jumps up to H+ on demand e.g. refreshing a web page causes it to switch up from 3G+ to H+ once the page is loaded it reverts to 3G+.
Am I going nuts?
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^ this is true...but doesn't really bother me.
^this I think is a mistake on my part, I've played around a bit more and it looks like (but could be my imagination of course!) that the phone jumps up to H+ on demand e.g. refreshing a web page causes it to switch up from 3G+ to H+ once the page is loaded it reverts to 3G+.
Am I going nuts?
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What you are seeing is called fast dormancy. Its kind of a battery saving feature hence why H+ is not always on. Most networks support this nowadays.
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lyriquidperfection said:
What you are seeing is called fast dormancy. Its kind of a battery saving feature hence why H+ is not always on. Most networks support this nowadays.
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Ah, ok, that makes sense, did wonder whether it backed-off to save power
Thanks for the education
@big-nose.
Can I ask, did you get the phone from Simply Electronics? Im currently waiting on mine arriving and since I ordered it have found out that their main warehouse is in HK, so I think I will be getting the same phone as you.
Im on Orange just now and when my contract is up will switch over to EE for the 4G, so will probably just flash the EE Firmware whenever the phone arrives.
Cheers
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@big-nose.
Can I ask, did you get the phone from Simply Electronics? Im currently waiting on mine arriving and since I ordered it have found out that their main warehouse is in HK, so I think I will be getting the same phone as you.
Im on Orange just now and when my contract is up will switch over to EE for the 4G, so will probably just flash the EE Firmware whenever the phone arrives.
Cheers
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I got mine for simply electronics and its called Dual carrier having the HK rom, which by the way it is still the 4.1.1
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johnnyblaze1977 said:
@big-nose.
Can I ask, did you get the phone from Simply Electronics? Im currently waiting on mine arriving and since I ordered it have found out that their main warehouse is in HK, so I think I will be getting the same phone as you.
Im on Orange just now and when my contract is up will switch over to EE for the 4G, so will probably just flash the EE Firmware whenever the phone arrives.
Cheers
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I got mine from Panamoz...but all the Hong Kong dealers probably obtain the phones via the same routes.
Have to say I'm impressed with Panamoz so far, ordered at 2130hrs on Sunday evening and delivered to me in the UK on Wednesday. The real test will be if I have to use the warranty...but obviously I'm hoping that day never comes anyway!
My only comments are:
1. Mine was packaged for the French market e.g. the mains charger is for French sockets, the instructions are in French etc. (Panamoz did put a free mains adaptor in the package to deal with the charger) Wonder if any other options besides French were available, would have been nice to know this up-front.
2. The initial screens were in Chinese and if you're not familiar with Android you might not know that the first thing it asks on initial boot is what language you want to work in...I think it'd be handy if Panamoz provided a piece of paper with brief instructions and a screenshot explaining how to switch the language, otherwise some people might panic!
Thanks for the feedback.
I have actually just cancelled my order. 2 Weeks after placing the order it still hadnt been dispatched, and I was wanting it for this weekend. I'll just pop down to the local Orange shop and buy it there, its only £50 dearer so i can handle that ok.
Still using my trusty S1 just now but looking forward to the upgrade.
Cheers
I have been on ATT in the Chicago burbs for a few years now, been happy and satisfied with their service, no issues, and we have a good plan = 2 lines Unlimited minutes Unlimited texts, and 10GB shared Data for $130/Month. And with me on next it is $155/Month.
But I always like to at least root my Wife's phone for AdAway and XPosed stuff to tweak her phones better, and me I always root, and install Custom Recovery and ROM my phones, right now on a HTC One M8 converted to GPE and love this phone.
My point is, ATT has gotten worse and worse the last 18 months with locking down their phones, even root can take months to come by on flagship phones. And on principle it is really pissing me off, why give ATT money, if they won't even let me customize my phone anymore ? The ATT Note 2 I had two years ago, was the last best ATT phone IMO, I rooted it and ROM'd the heck out of that phone, but sadly with the new Note 4 those days are long gone and history with ATT.
Long story short, does T-Mobile offer competitive plans to what i currently have ? And how is their service in Chicago area ? Thank you
Well, you have two choices based on what you're interested in:
1. Switch service to T-Mobile. I also live in Chicago. The service isn't as good as AT&T here in the city, or elsewhere. LTE/3G data doesn't penetrate buildings as well. The calling and texting seems to be about the same when towers are near, but I know for a fact that AT&T has them beat in terms of coverage outside of major metro areas. I frequently drive between Chicago and Indianapolis- AT&T has 4G or LTE about 85% of the drive, while T-mobile will barely get phone calls to go through, much less high speed data. T-Mobile is cheaper service than AT&T, but you're getting what you pay for.
2. Buy the T-Mobile Note 4 off-contract and unlock it for AT&T. There are lots of threads here on xda about this- and it's what I've just done with my T-Mo note 4! I had done the same with my Note 3, there are presently no issues with t-mobile samsungs and at&T. connecting to LTE, phone calls, mms, sms, etc all works perfectly.
As you said, the AT&T variants are locked down and will probably remain that way. The ONLY note 4 you can buy that has the unlocked bootloader AS WELL AS support for LTE networks in the United States is the T-mobile Note 4. How much of a premium are you willing to pay for having the unlocked bootloader, is what you need to ask yourself. An off contract Note 4 from T-mobile costs $850 after Illinois taxes, and you'll need to activate the line for at least one day, meaning a few more bucks.
Hope that helps. I would go with option #2, especially if you're like me- grandfathered unlimited data from at&t.
obviously, the cost of the note 4's from t-mobile will decrease after the product is widely available and the initial hype dies down. So if you're enjoying your M8, wait a few months and grab a note 4 from swappa.com, ebay, or craigslist
Good points thanks.
I would almost like to test drive T-Mobile first for like a week, see how it is around town and in my office, etc... I am happy with ATT the past couple years, good service, it's just the principle of them locking down phones really irks me, and makes me want to take business elsewhere.
hey man, nice to see you here
I dont know about that other dude, but my service in the burr ridge/willowbrook area is fantastic with T-mobile
Also, I travel through lombard/villa park/elmhurst alot, and always have super strong signal, and in 8 months, I dont think I have dropped a single call; 4g speeds usually between 15-35 down,and 6-15 up, so I am one happy camper with Tmobile in chicagoland..
Do the test drive if you want confirmation yourself..
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hey man, nice to see you here
I dont know about that other dude, but my service in the burr ridge/willowbrook area is fantastic with T-mobile
Also, I travel through lombard/villa park/elmhurst alot, and always have super strong signal, and in 8 months, I dont think I have dropped a single call; 4g speeds usually between 15-35 down,and 6-15 up, so I am one happy camper with Tmobile in chicagoland..
Do the test drive if you want confirmation yourself..
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Hello neighbor
I work in Willowbrook, and most of my business is in the western burbs, so thanks for your input.
And the principle of the idea is pushing me away from ATT, the whole lockdown is so upsetting.
How quick is a port of our numbers from ATT to T-Mobile, if I pick up the Note 4 ?
If I recall, when I switched, the number porting was done by the time we left the store!
just bring in your old ATT bill, and make sure you know the password on your ATT account, and the porting should be really fast..
I am in IL, but downstate and live in the Metro St. Louis area. The comments about T-Mo coverage are spot on. If you are downtown, or within about a 10-15 mile radius of it, you should be good. I was a long time Verizon customer, and I jumped to T-Mo when VZW pissed me off with that "network optimization" nonsense.
My experience at the office with T-Mo has been great. Faster even that Verizon. At home (30 miles NE of downtown STL) it is a different story. Maybe 1 bar of HSPA (never LTE) inside my house. I don't travel much, so I can't comment there yet, but I will say that if you spend a lot of time on the road you probably are best off buying the T-Mo Note 4 and staying with AT&T.
I really like what T-Mo is trying to do, they just have to get more towers out there.
Porting the number takes less than 30 seconds flat... It is incredibly fast. (done it already with 2 lines from AT&T to T-Mobile) Now I have 3 lines in total with T-Mobile, (an old one plus 2 new ones coming from AT&T)
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I am in IL, but downstate and live in the Metro St. Louis area. The comments about T-Mo coverage are spot on. If you are downtown, or within about a 10-15 mile radius of it, you should be good. I was a long time Verizon customer, and I jumped to T-Mo when VZW pissed me off with that "network optimization" nonsense.
My experience at the office with T-Mo has been great. Faster even that Verizon. At home (30 miles NE of downtown STL) it is a different story. Maybe 1 bar of HSPA (never LTE) inside my house. I don't travel much, so I can't comment there yet, but I will say that if you spend a lot of time on the road you probably are best off buying the T-Mo Note 4 and staying with AT&T.
I really like what T-Mo is trying to do, they just have to get more towers out there.
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you know you can get them to "give" you a asus router, so you get a super wifi signal in your house, for data and calling...
wase4711 said:
you know you can get them to "give" you a asus router, so you get a super wifi signal in your house, for data and calling...
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Thanks, but I already have a better WiFi solution than their router. I had them send me their new LTE Booster and it helps a little, but it is still very spotty.
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Thanks, but I already have a better WiFi solution than their router. I had them send me their new LTE Booster and it helps a little, but it is still very spotty.
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can I ask what solution you have that is better than a free AC router?
I had the asus RT-AC87, but returned it, because I got the same wifi speeds from the T-Mobile router, as I did from the $300 RT87..
How did you get tmo to give you an Asus router? I just switched from att to tmo here in jersey and my reason was for cheaper prices. I'm still within my 14 days but I will say I'm impressed so far. Greats LTE speeds, no issues with calls. I have derive at work & home so I think I'll be staying. I'm on the note 3 now waiting for n4 pre-order.
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How did you get tmo to give you an Asus router? I just switched from att to tmo here in jersey and my reason was for cheaper prices. I'm still within my 14 days but I will say I'm impressed so far. Greats LTE speeds, no issues with calls. I have derive at work & home so I think I'll be staying. I'm on the note 3 now waiting for n4 pre-order.
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info here and via google..
http://www.phonearena.com/news/T-Mobiles-CellSpot-Wi-Fi-router-available-now_id60802
https://www.google.com/search?utm_s...tmobile+wifi+router+available+date&gws_rd=ssl
edouble312 said:
Well, you have two choices based on what you're interested in:
2. Buy the T-Mobile Note 4 off-contract and unlock it for AT&T. There are lots of threads here on xda about this- and it's what I've just done with my T-Mo note 4! I had done the same with my Note 3, there are presently no issues with t-mobile samsungs and at&T. connecting to LTE, phone calls, mms, sms, etc all works perfectly.
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So can you confirm the t mobile note 4 works fine with 4g lte on att? How did you unlock it? I current have the att note 3 on contract so would be paying out of contract prices and it seems to make more sense to go with t mobile if I want to customize it at some point or switch to t mobile later on. Also the t mobile note 4 is cheaper out of contract than att. If you are currently using the t mobile note 4 on att and everything works that's the route I'm going to go too. Just waiting for someone to verify that works as there are some threads with people having issues when going this route with the note 3. I've also heard if att ever asks for your imei or other phone info you should give them the numbers from an older att phone so they don't blacklist you and block you from using lte.
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So can you confirm the t mobile note 4 works fine with 4g lte on att? How did you unlock it? I current have the att note 3 on contract so would be paying out of contract prices and it seems to make more sense to go with t mobile if I want to customize it at some point or switch to t mobile later on. Also the t mobile note 4 is cheaper out of contract than att. If you are currently using the t mobile note 4 on att and everything works that's the route I'm going to go too. Just waiting for someone to verify that works as there are some threads with people having issues when going this route with the note 3. I've also heard if att ever asks for your imei or other phone info you should give them the numbers from an older att phone so they don't blacklist you and block you from using lte.
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correct about the imei. phone's working fine for me. speed tests are great, no issues with any LTE coverage. Maybe a little better than my previous phone- the T-mo Note 3 unlocked on AT&T.
I found a seller on eBay who got me the code. There's a thread in the questions/problems section that discusses my guys and all the other sellers.
I just received the 3t yesterday and can't get LTE data to work, on any rom, even stock. I live in the Tampa Bay area, and guess I'll be returning the phone.
Have you checked the APNs to make sure it selected the right one? Mine was selecting an incomplete one when I first got mine. Another thing to test is go to a T-Mobile store and ask them to put a known good SIM into the phone (shortly after I found out my SIM of 3 years was having issues).
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I just received the 3t yesterday and can't get LTE data to work, on any rom, even stock. I live in the Tampa Bay area, and guess I'll be returning the phone.
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Maybe you ordered or got sent the wrong version. Did you order from OnePlus or a different source?
I just received the 3t yesterday and can't get LTE data to work, on any rom, even stock. I live in the Tampa Bay area, and guess I'll be returning the phone.
Have you checked the APNs to make sure it selected the right one? Mine was selecting an incomplete one when I first got mine. Another thing to test is go to a T-Mobile store and ask them to put a known good SIM into the phone (shortly after I found out my SIM of 3 years was having issues).
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I just received the 3t yesterday and can't get LTE data to work, on any rom, even stock. I live in the Tampa Bay area, and guess I'll be returning the phone.
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Maybe you ordered or got sent the wrong version. Did you order from OnePlus or a different source?