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So I'm looking to upgrade but don't want to be stuck in another 2 yr contract. I'm thinking of using Verizon's edge program and getting the moto x and then paying the rest off when my contract is up at the end of the year. I would like to know if its possible to then go with an AT&T sim card and prepaid option in the same phone?
I have read all Verizon 4G phones come sim unlocked. I can't find either if the Verizon version comes with the GSM radios necessary to do this.
Any help on the subject would be great! Really tired of Verizon..
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Won't work. Vzw uses Cdma for voice and lte for data. Unless someone proves me wrong, the phone can't do voice calls on att network
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Won't work. Vzw uses Cdma for voice and lte for data. Unless someone proves me wrong, the phone can't do voice calls on att network
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That is my understanding as well. Won't work. Networks incompatible.
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greenro89 said:
So I'm looking to upgrade but don't want to be stuck in another 2 yr contract. I'm thinking of using Verizon's edge program and getting the moto x and then paying the rest off when my contract is up at the end of the year. I would like to know if its possible to then go with an AT&T sim card and prepaid option in the same phone?
I have read all Verizon 4G phones come sim unlocked. I can't find either if the Verizon version comes with the GSM radios necessary to do this.
Any help on the subject would be great! Really tired of Verizon..
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The carrier issue aside (see above) you should not even consider upgrading with Edge unless you want to pay for you phone twice. It is a complete rip off.
All newer Verizon phones are gsm unlocked and will be able to do voice and most of them hspa+ data on ATT. Weather the lte will work really depends on the phone and what radios they put in it.
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Just checked for the moto x and no LTE but everything else should work just fine
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Won't work. Vzw uses Cdma for voice and lte for data. Unless someone proves me wrong, the phone can't do voice calls on att network
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It is possible to use a GSM carrier's sim in Verizon's phones for both voice and data. What would you like as Proof?
I don't have an X yet, but....
I have both Verizon and T-Mobile lines for work. (Verizon for personal).
My T-Mobile phone is a Galaxy S3. When T-Mo started supporting the iPhone, our corp rep swapped my sim to a T-Mo Nano SIM for me.
Since then, I have put my T-Mobile sim into my Verizon iPhone 5, VZW Galaxy S4, VZW BB Z10, VZW BB Q10, and VZW Nokia 928. Doing so works fine for voice, data and text messaging on T-Mobiles network, but at EDGE speeds since these VZW phones don't support the 1700mhz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ bands that T-Mo uses. They do support the 1900mhz band that ATT uses, but I don't have an ATT sim handy to pop them in.
Oh, and I did need to use a SIM adapter to convert between nano and micro since only the iPhone 5 uses Nano sim. I do not recall results of trying to SMS, I really don't sms anyway.
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Won't work. Vzw uses Cdma for voice and lte for data. Unless someone proves me wrong, the phone can't do voice calls on att network
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I hate seeing this response all the time on Verizon devices. Most modern Verizon LTE phones do GSM just fine. Verizon used to call this being a "World Phone", but really all Verizon phones are world devices now. Galaxy S3/4, Note 2/3, all of Moto's phones, etc.
From the Verizon Moto X specs page:
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Network: LTE, CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS( 850/900/1900/2100), HSDPA 42.2 Mbps (Category 20), HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
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I stand corrected and won't spread misinformation any more. Thanks for educating me.
Thanks everyone for all the replies! I have heard so many things and this clears the air for me.
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The Droid Ultra connects to At&t without any modification required:
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/08/22/droid-ultra-can-connect-to-atts-hspa-network-out-of-the-box/
In the past some phones on Verizon with GSM capabilities were software restricted from connecting to US GSM providers.
Since the X works on ATT it should work with a Straight Talk ATT Sim card right?
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Yes
i think in the past verizon phones were GSM locked for only europe / asia and not US GSM carriers.
i think the moto x, and the droid ultra/maxx/mini are not GSM locked for US.
i just switched from verizon to t-mobile. and my last phone was a droid razr m. i unlocked the radio to be able to use t-mobile for a week before my moto-x came, and it DOES work on at&t / t-mobile.
in this case it supported at&t / t-mobile on edge and voice. with 1900mhz hspa+ at&t 3g (and refarmed t-mobile band). no LTE support.
i think the xt1060 is the verizon moto -x and it doesnt havef support for t-mobile HSPA + 1700/2100 AWS or the t-mobile or at&t LTE bands.
so if you bought a verizon moto x, and used it on at&t in the future you'd only get hspa+ 1900mhz at&T "4G". and edge/voice. but it should work fine.
I can confirm that putting my wife's iPhone 5 nano-sim into my Verizon Moto X does work, and I get H+ (7-8mbit) speeds.
Okay so the next question would be, does this also apply to Sprint's Moto X? I hope it does but I am not holding my breath.
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can somebody please answer the sprint motox question?
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Okay so the next question would be, does this also apply to Sprint's Moto X? I hope it does but I am not holding my breath.
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i don tthink sprint has GSM unlocked by default. you'd have to find a way to unlock it, which from the sounds of it on this forum from other posters is not easy. probably have to be a sprint customer and say you are going on a trip to europe etc...
Maxx works...ish
I got a T-Mobile SIM for my VZW Droid Maxx (same chipset as the Moto X). With no changes to any settings it gets voice and text, and after manually inputting the T-Mobile APN I picked up H+ and the 1900 MHz 4G in my area. There's an article on Android Central with pictures of a Droid Ultra on a GSM network (I think AT&T).
That said, Verizon's tech support maintain that their unlocked phones aren't allowed to use any non-Verizon US carrier. They also said that if I take a U.S. T-Mobile SIM card roaming outside the US it will work there. The last generation of carrier locks were based on the nationality of the SIM card, not the tower, so that doesn't make much sense. Further reason to question anything tech support tells you.
I have a Verizon moto x and I placed my Att nano Sim in and I can only seem to get hspa+ not LTE. Other than that everything else seems to work fine.
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I have a Verizon moto x and I placed my Att nano Sim in and I can only seem to get hspa+ not LTE. Other than that everything else seems to work fine.
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I think you would get LTE if you unlock the bootloader and flash the att modem files. I think some people with the Dev edition ultra maxx flashed the att X radio and it enabled LTE.
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greenro89 said:
So I'm looking to upgrade but don't want to be stuck in another 2 yr contract. I'm thinking of using Verizon's edge program and getting the moto x and then paying the rest off when my contract is up at the end of the year. I would like to know if its possible to then go with an AT&T sim card and prepaid option in the same phone?
I have read all Verizon 4G phones come sim unlocked. I can't find either if the Verizon version comes with the GSM radios necessary to do this.
Any help on the subject would be great! Really tired of Verizon..
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I am ready for a new phone, but would like to be done with Verizon once they take away my unlimited plan. I read a few posts where it is said that the cdma phones would work on T-Mobile, the carrier I will be going to next. Can anyone confirm or deny the ability to use on both networks?
Thanks
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I put a T-mobile SIM in my stock 16GB Verizon Moto x. Here is what works and doesn't.
First off, 4G works! in the South Jersey area and it is Blistering fast, I have exceeded 40MB speed test downloads twice, Several in the high 30s and I am avg in mid 20s. Uploads are averaging 20+/- . Compared to Verizon this is like comparing Fios to 1999 era dial up. the best I ever got on Verizon 4G was 14 download but average between 4 and 9 !
The Network notification switches a lot between 4G, "H" mode, whatever that is, just bars and another which I didn't catch quick enough to read ?
Battery has been amazing compared to my galaxy Nexus, I got 7.5 hours of Actual "Screen on Time" which included some GPS use and an hour of music streaming total phone up time was 34+ hours. How long it will perform like this is anyone's guess, today i got about 6.5 of Screen on time. I hope this inst a trend
Now for the bad news - Using it as a Phone. Incoming calls are fine but, making outgoing is a Pain in the A$$.
When I dial a number, (which is a hassle on this KitKat dialer) it often goes to the home screen or back to the dialer. The Call Fails. I am not sure if my dialer is buggy or its a compatibility problem. the KitKat Dialer on the Moto X is an exorcise in futility. Google are you listening? Why reinvent the wheel. All I want in my Dialer is a Number Pad! and a phone book.
When I Open dialer I see Recent calls up top, the whole middle section says all contacts and is otherwise blank, the bottom has the number pad icon, History and settings dots.
Clicking the number pad icon enlarges the bottom section, which then goes all white and removes the three icons. I have to then click the back arrow and re-click the number pad icon to bring it up the actual dialer. .
At this time I can dial. and then the call always fails on the first attempt. Sometimes it takes several attempts to go through.
When I click send on the dialer the 4G disappears and I am left with just the bars. they come back when call is done but sometimes take a few minutes to do so.
If you Kill the dialer app or swipe it away, coming back to it you will have the same issues when trying to get the number pad (two attempts) if you dont, the number pad will open on first attempt. but the calls will still fail on the first try.
I also cant use the internet when in a call, whether WiFi is on or off. Is this a T-mobile problem? I could use the net in Verizon when in a call when on 4G or WiFi
The Data is set to global mode but I have tried both the other settings. On boot up I get a warning saying the SIM is not recognized which I just swipe away.
I am also having this problem. After making a call, the music player and the phones "volume" aspects cease to work., Meaning, I get no sound out of the phone, Music, notifications alarms etc.. This happens almost every time and the only fix is a reboot
I disabled all Verizon Bloat and a lot of Moto Bloat as well This could be causing some of the bugs? But i have tested several different configurations all with the same outcomes.
Hope this helps and puts an end to the - Will it work or not questions. There seem to be a lot of Net Know it all's that flat out say a Verizon Moto x wont work with a T-Mobile SIM or some other undocumented "fact"
now unlocking is legal does anyone know how to unlock_the Verizon G2
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The g2 is unlocked
Verizon phone's are all ready unlocked
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Do not confuse locked boot loaders with carrier locked devices. Congress says carrier locked phones must be unlockable at the end of a service contract, so they can be transferred for use on another compatible network. This has nothing to do with locked boot loaders. VZW G2 is not carrier locked, but the boot loader is and will remain forever locked.
LG G2 VS980 not detecting/connecting to mobile network..
I am in India at the moment...i have 3 Verizon G2 phones...SIM cards work fine on 2 of them...On the third one...it does not detect the mobile network...sim is detected ,coz it gives no alert...and when i search for networks...the networks are shown...it just doesnt connect to the network...the sim cards work fine in other phones...in the other G2 phones and in a HTC DROID DNA...so its not the sim at fault....
Have tried multiple SIM cards from Vodafone/Loop Mobile/Airtel...none of them work on this particular phone..
What can be the problem ?
Please help me out...otherwise will have to send the phone all the way back to USA..
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LG G2 VS980 not detecting/connecting to mobile network..
I am in India at the moment...i have 3 Verizon G2 phones...SIM cards work fine on 2 of them...On the third one...it does not detect the mobile network...sim is detected ,coz it gives no alert...and when i search for networks...the networks are shown...it just doesnt connect to the network...the sim cards work fine in other phones...in the other G2 phones and in a HTC DROID DNA...so its not the sim at fault....
Have tried multiple SIM cards from Vodafone/Loop Mobile/Airtel...none of them work on this particular phone..
What can be the problem ?
Please help me out...otherwise will have to send the phone all the way back to USA..
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I'm using this phone with T-Mobile and works like a charm, 4G LTE and everything else, just make sure you enter the Right APN in th network settings should work right or of the box.
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I'm using this phone with T-Mobile and works like a charm, 4G LTE and everything else, just make sure you enter the Right APN in th network settings should work right or of the box.
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The problem is that it is not connecting to the networks at all.. Tried with multiple sim cards from multiple carriers... When i search for network it shows up, but doesn't connect to the network...
prateeksahoo said:
The problem is that it is not connecting to the networks at all.. Tried with multiple sim cards from multiple carriers... When i search for network it shows up, but doesn't connect to the network...
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This generally means either: 1) The ESN/IMEI is blacklisted or 2) The APN information is incorrect.
You can call your carrier to determine if it is blacklisted, or use this website although I don't know if it is international or just in the US
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This generally means either: 1) The ESN/IMEI is blacklisted or 2) The APN information is incorrect.
You can call your carrier to determine if it is blacklisted, or use this website although I don't know if it is international or just in the US
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the ESN/IMEI thing is valid only in the US..and arent APN settings used to get data enabled...after connecting to the mobile network ?
My phone isnt connecting to the mobile network at all !
Sounds like a bad phone then
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Anybody have experience using vs980 on AT&T, T-Mobile, or any other carrier?
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Anybody have experience using vs980 on AT&T, T-Mobile, or any other carrier?
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It works fine on most GSM carriers, even LTE on some.
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Anybody have experience using vs980 on AT&T, T-Mobile, or any other carrier?
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A lot of people use vs980 on tmo. Works very well and supports their LTE too
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Anybody have experience using vs980 on AT&T, T-Mobile, or any other carrier?
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i'm using my VS980 with T-Mobile and works perfectly and getting in some areas up to 40MB Download and 11MB Upload with 4G LTE , the lowes i have seen is 20MB Download and 9 Upload.
I am using vs980 in newzealand. Now it is on global mode and i can call, text,... as normal but i can't use data service. The signal always shows "R" (does that mean Roaming? ) and "H" (HSPA?) and i have already set the correct APN. Can someone help me how to connect data service? THANKS
Greetings!
I purchased a Nexus 6 from T-Mobile and have used it interchangeably on both T-Mobile and Verizon without issue. Well, the phone has no issues, but the networks do. I just moved to a building where I get ZERO Verizon coverage and ZERO T-Mobile coverage. T-Mobile will eventually fix this with WiFi calling, I think, but to my great surprise Sprint seems to have service here! My coworker's S5 on Sprint works just fine.
So, I'm interested in trying out the Nexus 6 on a Sprint prepaid plan for a month to see what the service is like. Has anyone tried using the Nexus 6 on Sprint prepaid, Virgin Mobile, Boost, etc? It would be awesome to go buy a SIM card at Walmart or something and try it out for a month. Curious to know if anyone has any experience with this, though, I think it's a bit of a niche situation
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I don't see it being an issue. You would get the sim and have to activate on their network. The cdma part has to be provisioned for phone calls. Ting is an mvno of sprint. https://ting.com/blog/device-update/
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i believe only google play or motorola will work,at least that's what ting and android police say
It all depends if the IMIE is on file. Or if they will add it for you. My apologies, I didn't catch the TMO part earlier. But I read some got the TMO version activated on Sprint. So it's possible the IMIE was sent to sprint along with the Playstore versions as well.
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I just picked up a used verizon G2 to use on the Straight Talk service. First issue. I pulled the sim card from my old straight talk phone and put it in the G2. It instantly said unknown sim but, when i restarted the phone i had service. Problem is, i still have the unknown sim icon and cant seem to use LTE. Second issue. im stuck on 4.4.2 because it will not allow me to download any system updates. Im hoping there is a way to manually update. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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I just picked up a used verizon G2 to use on the Straight Talk service. First issue. I pulled the sim card from my old straight talk phone and put it in the G2. It instantly said unknown sim but, when i restarted the phone i had service. Problem is, i still have the unknown sim icon and cant seem to use LTE. Second issue. im stuck on 4.4.2 because it will not allow me to download any system updates. Im hoping there is a way to manually update. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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If you want to update hook up the phone to a windows pc and install the verizon software updater that is built into the flash memory when you plug it in. It will download and apply the Lolipop update. You should figure out what straight talk sim you have because it could be a verizon one, but most likely it's an at&t one so you'll need to edit your apn settings.
What provider is your Straight Talk SIM running off of? T-Mobile? AT&T?
The Verizon G2 only has LTE bands 4 and 13. B13 is Verizon-only, while B4 is used by multiple carriers.
If T-Moible, B4 is the primary band, but if you are in a rural area that TMO refarmed, LTE will be on B2 instead.
If AT&T, their primary LTE band is B5, but there are some select areas that have it on B4 also.
The "Unknown SIM" icon is because the Verizon ROM detects a non-Verizon SIM card. I'm sure there are ways to get rid of it via rooting, or just flash a custom ROM. If your Straight Talk is going through T-Mobile, there's a T-Mobile ROM in the dev forum that adds some TMO functionality like Wifi Calling.
I was able to upgrade to Lollipop using the verizon software and my pc so thanks for that!
The sim I am using is an AT&T straight talk sim. Do they have a sim just for verizon LTE networks?
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ccross13126 said:
I was able to upgrade to Lollipop using the verizon software and my pc so thanks for that!
The sim I am using is an AT&T straight talk sim. Do they have a sim just for verizon LTE networks?
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For new lines, you can stick your phone's IMEI into ST's BYOP checker and if it checks out, you can order a Verizon LTE SIM. For existing lines, probably easier to just call up CS and ask.
I just ordered a verizon LTE sim card from straight talk. They transfered my number to a new sim once before, I'm sure they can do it again. If not, I can live with a new number to have a working phone again.
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I just ordered a verizon LTE sim card from straight talk. They transfered my number to a new sim once before, I'm sure they can do it again. If not, I can live with a new number to have a working phone again.
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ccross13126, how did this all turn out? Are you able to use the verizon vs980 LG G2 on Straight Talk with 4g data speeds (using vzw towers)?
I am reading all kinds of conflicting stories. Some say it'll work, but 3g speeds only. BUT, it appears that MAYBE the VS980 can now use verizon 4g towers . . maybe in the last few months. Can you confirm? THANKS in advance. I have a rooted Verizon LG G2 (VS980) that I LOVE .. but i would really love to save a few $$$ and use Straight Talk. Thanks again.
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ccross13126, how did this all turn out? Are you able to use the verizon vs980 LG G2 on Straight Talk with 4g data speeds (using vzw towers)?
I am reading all kinds of conflicting stories. Some say it'll work, but 3g speeds only. BUT, it appears that MAYBE the VS980 can now use verizon 4g towers . . maybe in the last few months. Can you confirm? THANKS in advance. I have a rooted Verizon LG G2 (VS980) that I LOVE .. but i would really love to save a few $$$ and use Straight Talk. Thanks again.
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I am using the Straight Talk CDMA service on a few of my phones at the moment. I usually use a Nexus 6 but I had to send it in for a problem and have a Verizon LG G2 and a Verizon HTC M8. The sim card works on both of these phones at LTE speeds. At least in my area, Verizon still seems the most reliable for me. It might not be the fastest service but I don't have issues with missed texts and dropped calls like I do with some other services I have tried.
Hope this helps.
Wondering if there are any tmobile roms that work on a unlocked sprint version. I'm using a sprint rom now and it works ok. Just want to be the most compatible with tmobile as possible. I am a noob to using unlocked phones. I was with sprint for 10 + years and just switch to tmobile last week. Thanks in advance
Update- i flashed the the tmobile maximum ovrdrive n5 rom and its working great! Came from a sprint hybrid note 5 rom. Wiped and did a clean install and everything works great. Still no lte but my 4g has gotten better speeds. My new question is im still on my sprint ok1 modem should i try a tmobile modem or stay with it the way i have it?
I don't believe you can use a sprint phone on tmobile. Different network. And as for the rom. I don't think there are. I could be corrected but sprint phones are only good on sprints network and that's it.
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I don't believe you can use a sprint phone on tmobile. Different network. And as for the rom. I don't think there are. I could be corrected but sprint phones are only good on sprints network and that's it.
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Modern sprint phone support T-Mobile and ATT's HSPA network. Heck I used my unlocked Sprint S4 on ATT for about 5 months without any issues. Only thing was that I didn't get LTE.
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using a sprint note 4 with tmobile rom just failed to get it passed edge network cant get 3G/4G
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I don't believe you can use a sprint phone on tmobile. Different network. And as for the rom. I don't think there are. I could be corrected but sprint phones are only good on sprints network and that's it.
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I already have my sprint note 4 unlocked and working on t mobile Just don't get lte. Was wondering if a tmobile rom with the right modem would allow me to get lte. Maybe if a dev can make one or something