Non carrier devices locked? - Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I have just purchased the Z3 Compact. Bought it retail without subscription to a carrier. Will it still have a locked boot loader?
Is there are way to tell?
Thanks

This has now really been discussed and explained to death. Please, use the search function.

Yes, it's always locked.

Hi,
thanks for the replies.
Sorry if this is a common question, I did search, all I got was a post for a Motorola and if I search now all I get is my post.

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Branded phone bootloader question

Hi, I've looked around but not been able to find anything that really answers this question.
I'm tempted to buy an Xperia Z when they come out in the UK. Unfortunately it will be a branded phone (there is no way around this unless I want to pay alot more money).
My question is for 3UK customers with an Xperia T. Are you able to unlock your bootloader using Sony's official method? I have read that simlocked branded phones can be nearly impossible to unlock on certain networks.
Thanks for any help.
Brac20 said:
Hi, I've looked around but not been able to find anything that really answers this question.
I'm tempted to buy an Xperia Z when they come out in the UK. Unfortunately it will be a branded phone (there is no way around this unless I want to pay alot more money).
My question is for 3UK customers with an Xperia T. Are you able to unlock your bootloader using Sony's official method? I have read that simlocked branded phones can be nearly impossible to unlock on certain networks.
Thanks for any help.
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Not true.
I have a branded vodafone T and I can unlock. I would suggest you speak to 3UK and ask them, and if they cant answer your question take your business elsewhere.
I made sure I could unlock with vodafone before renewing my contract with them.
Brac20 said:
Hi, I've looked around but not been able to find anything that really answers this question.
I'm tempted to buy an Xperia Z when they come out in the UK. Unfortunately it will be a branded phone (there is no way around this unless I want to pay alot more money).
My question is for 3UK customers with an Xperia T. Are you able to unlock your bootloader using Sony's official method? I have read that simlocked branded phones can be nearly impossible to unlock on certain networks.
Thanks for any help.
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I have an Xperia T on 3UK, and it is very much locked. However, I have debranded it using the stock UK ftf and flashtool - and I am really quite enjoying using the Sony provided ROM.
Not sure if that helps, I suppose it depends how much you would like to muck about with your phone after receiving it!
Graham
Brac20 said:
Hi, I've looked around but not been able to find anything that really answers this question.
I'm tempted to buy an Xperia Z when they come out in the UK. Unfortunately it will be a branded phone (there is no way around this unless I want to pay alot more money).
My question is for 3UK customers with an Xperia T. Are you able to unlock your bootloader using Sony's official method? I have read that simlocked branded phones can be nearly impossible to unlock on certain networks.
Thanks for any help.
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Not sure with regard to your query about 3UK branded phones being bootloader locked however I understand that Carphone Warehouse phones are generally unlocked to any network and allow bootloader unlocking. If you were to get a phone from them on a 3UK contract then you should be ok - when I was looking for a T I popped in and queried this with them first and they suggested all of their phones are sold unlocked regardless of which network contract you choose. Phones 4 U have a similar approach but don`t offer deals on the 3 network.
Vodafone keep their phones SIM unlocked that's why you could unlock it Greg... But with carriers like 3UK they brand and SIM lock hence no CM goodness for me
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waynekirby said:
Vodafone keep their phones SIM unlocked that's why you could unlock it Greg... But with carriers like 3UK they brand and SIM lock hence no CM goodness for me
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Sim unlock and bootloader unlock have nothing to do with each other. You can have a sim locked phone and unlock the bootloader, and you can have a sim free phone and not be able to unlock the bootloader..and every combination in between as they are independant of each other
gregbradley said:
Sim unlock and bootloader unlock have nothing to do with each other. You can have a sim locked phone and unlock the bootloader, and you can have a sim free phone and not be able to unlock the bootloader..and every combination in between as they are independant of each other
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But fastboot locking is, or at least was in 2011 line, and unlocked by way of certificate replacement which unlocked everything, but sold as SIM unlocking causing confusion.
I think even with unlocking code from network, fastboot will remain locked.
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mpiekp said:
But fastboot locking is, or at least was in 2011 line, and unlocked by way of certificate replacement which unlocked everything, but sold as SIM unlocking causing confusion.
I think even with unlocking code from network, fastboot will remain locked.
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If a carrier has made the bootloader unlockable then having the code from sony will not unlock it.
If the carier removes that restriction that allows the bootloader to be unlocked AND removes sim lock then tha is the carrier merging the two locks. They could just remove the bootloader restrictions AND keep sim lock if they want.
You can get an unlocked bootloader phone that is sim locked and vice versa. What carriers do with their locks is what they add to the phone after android and after Sony have done their thing.
They are still independant from each other unless the carrier has merged them, so my point stands, ask the carrier if you can unlock the bootloader. If the sales persone does not know what that means then go elsewhere. If they so not its not possibel because of sim lock they are lying as it is possible, its just maybe needs a bit of effort from them to be bothered. Then take your money elsewhere.
I have been into plenty of phone shops and they look confused when you ask them these questions, I just take my my business elsewhere and get what I want.
gregbradley said:
Sim unlock and bootloader unlock have nothing to do with each other. You can have a sim locked phone and unlock the bootloader, and you can have a sim free phone and not be able to unlock the bootloader..and every combination in between as they are independant of each other
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Except that with any Sony Android phone I am aware of, if the device is sold SIMlocked, it is not whitelisted in the bootloader unlock database.
While the two are technically independent, it is pretty much unheard of to see a Sony device that is sold with SIMlock but has an unlockable bootloader, and similarly, you never see devices with a non-unlockable bootloader but no SIM lock.
Entropy512 said:
Except that with any Sony Android phone I am aware of, if the device is sold SIMlocked, it is not whitelisted in the bootloader unlock database.
While the two are technically independent, it is pretty much unheard of to see a Sony device that is sold with SIMlock but has an unlockable bootloader, and similarly, you never see devices with a non-unlockable bootloader but no SIM lock.
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I stand (semi) corrected
Hmmm it's not looking good then.
Unfortunately my device will have to be 3 branded (for reasons I'm not going to go into here).
I think I will probably contact 3 and see if they can shed any light on what to expect.
It's not the end of the world I guess, I can still put Apex on there and make it look how I want if I don't like stock. Nice to have the option though.
It would be stupid if SIMLock would be on and bootloader lock off cause u could easily remove SIMLock.
So in this case bought are related but in opposite direction - not. Cause I got SMS Code to remove SIMLock but that didnt made my bootloader unlockable.
To bad Orange is the only operator in my country which locks bootloader in Sony devices. (wish I'd knew that before signing contract)
kingstonxl said:
It would be stupid if SIMLock would be on and bootloader lock off cause u could easily remove SIMLock.
So in this case bought are related but in opposite direction - not. Cause I got SMS Code to remove SIMLock but that didnt made my bootloader unlockable.
To bad Orange is the only operator in my country which locks bootloader in Sony devices. (wish I'd knew that before signing contract)
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Not sure about that. I have never heard any posts claiming that unlocking the bootloader makes it easy to simunlock. Could share with us how that is possible?
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gregbradley said:
Not sure about that. I have never heard any posts claiming that unlocking the bootloader makes it easy to simunlock. Could share with us how that is possible?
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If u have unlocked bootloader u can use fastboot and also u r able to load any software u like. So its easy to remove simlock.
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Ok, do you have step by step instructions for that because I am interested to know how to do it, because I have never seem it done.
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I can confirm that the 3UK Xperia T is bootloader locked (no fastboot). I rang up Three and they said that it is not possible to allow bootloader unlocking on it (gave me a bull**** excuse about warranties and such, and I explained how I am aware than bootloader unlocking voids the warranty and that is the same for all phones).
However I do suspect that it depends on who you speak to as to what answer you'll get.
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hydo1 said:
I can confirm that the 3UK Xperia T is bootloader locked (no fastboot). I rang up Three and they said that it is not possible to allow bootloader unlocking on it (gave me a bull**** excuse about warranties and such, and I explained how I am aware than bootloader unlocking voids the warranty and that is the same for all phones).
However I do suspect that it depends on who you speak to as to what answer you'll get.
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Same with Orange
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I spoke to 3 today both customer service and in store technical adviser, they told me that they are unable to unlock the boot loader and I need to talk to Sony directly and ask them for instructions on how to unlock the boot loader.
I have sent them an e-mail and waiting for their response. Will update as soon as I have a news.
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matt2842 said:
I spoke to 3 today both customer service and in store technical adviser, they told me that they are unable to unlock the boot loader and I need to talk to Sony directly and ask them for instructions on how to unlock the boot loader.
I have sent them an e-mail and waiting for their response. Will update as soon as I have a news.
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Response from Sony service is u can't do it without loosing warranty :'(
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matt2842 said:
I spoke to 3 today both customer service and in store technical adviser, they told me that they are unable to unlock the boot loader and I need to talk to Sony directly and ask them for instructions on how to unlock the boot loader.
I have sent them an e-mail and waiting for their response. Will update as soon as I have a news.
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Why dont you just follow the instructions from their website......?
If your device says Bootloader unlock allowed: No Then they will not do it,
If it says Bootloader unlock allowed: yes then they will just direct you to their website to follow the instructions to do it...

[Q] Bootloader Unlock Allowed: No?

Hello all,
I haven't been able to find a straight answer in previous threads, so I thought I might ask for clarity.
It seems my Xperia SP has Bootloader Unlock Allowed set to No. The FAQs seem to suggest that this might be due to a SIM lock. My provider (Fido) offers SIM unlock that is covered under warranty for $50. Before I bite the bullet and pay for it, can anyone tell me if this will actually make a difference and allow me to unlock the bootloader?
Thanks.
emroc said:
Hello all,
I haven't been able to find a straight answer in previous threads, so I thought I might ask for clarity.
It seems my Xperia SP has Bootloader Unlock Allowed set to No. The FAQs seem to suggest that this might be due to a SIM lock. My provider (Fido) offers SIM unlock that is covered under warranty for $50. Before I bite the bullet and pay for it, can anyone tell me if this will actually make a difference and allow me to unlock the bootloader?
Thanks.
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It doesn't work all the time. Some phones have, but only a small portion. Mine is SIM unlocked, but I can't unlock BL. But, I'm with ya, I wish someone could figure out a way...I live in the US, but have a Fido SP, and they told me that they cannot unlock the BL. According to them, they do not lock any BLs for phones. But, obviously they do, since that's the only way it could be locked...
Just like both of you, I have this "brown" device. Locked by Sony, for unknown reasons.
Brown device are vendor locked devices.
Cursed I say.
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Replacement device bootloader

I'll be receiving a replacement Moto X from Sprint in a few days. I'm certain that this device will be refurbished which is fine. I'm just uncertain about unlocking the bootloader on a refurbished device. Anyone having any idea? Will it be able to be unlocked?
Edit: Sorry about creating a new thread. I see that I should have posted this in the help thread.
If its the sprint variant, you should still be able to get the unlock code from Moto's web site.
That being said, I haven't tried it.. BUT I haven't seen anyone posting they couldn't unlock their sprint device...

Unlock from EE carrier

Hi, I have just got this phone, it's nice too
But it is a locked phone to the 'EE' carrier, and I need to use my contract SIM which is with 'Three'.
This is a UK carrier.
Can someone please tell me if I can do this, and the easiest way?
I searched and found just one method, using something called Sigma Software.
Has anyone used that, and is that the best method?
I would also like to know the easiest way to root these phones too please, as the video I watched on unlocking with Sigma said it must be rooted first, so I guess that would be the case for any unlocking carrier methods?
Thanks and sorry for asking many questions at once.
I like the look of this handset and hope to use it with my main SIM card :good:

Brand new but locked

Hi guys,
I have been reading through the forum trying to understand everything related to the T-Mobile locked LG G4.
I've got a few questions.
My story in short.
Got a brand new G4 H811VK shipped to me from LG instead of a bricked EU version of G4 I returned. The new phone is locked for T-Mobile, my own fault (they asked me what operator and I choose T-Mobile out of the blue). So this phone has never been on the T-Mobile network and I don't have an account with them.
I contacted T-Mobile and they said they couldn't help me and asked me to talk to LG. LG said they couldn't help me and asked me to talk to T-Mobile. I'm in the center of some loop with a completely locked and unusable phone (I'm in Europe btw.).
So my questions are:
1. Is there any known way to unlock my phone? (I tried swiftunlocks.com but it didn't work)
2. If no to no. 1, is there any other way I can use the phone? Flash a custom rom etc.
All help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance and best regards,
p258 said:
Hi guys,
I have been reading through the forum trying to understand everything related to the T-Mobile locked LG G4.
I've got a few questions.
My story in short.
Got a brand new G4 H811VK shipped to me from LG instead of a bricked EU version of G4 I returned. The new phone is locked for T-Mobile, my own fault (they asked me what operator and I choose T-Mobile out of the blue). So this phone has never been on the T-Mobile network and I don't have an account with them.
I contacted T-Mobile and they said they couldn't help me and asked me to talk to LG. LG said they couldn't help me and asked me to talk to T-Mobile. I'm in the center of some loop with a completely locked and unusable phone (I'm in Europe btw.).
So my questions are:
1. Is there any known way to unlock my phone? (I tried swiftunlocks.com but it didn't work)
2. If no to no. 1, is there any other way I can use the phone? Flash a custom rom etc.
All help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance and best regards,
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Hey there's away you have to change imei number
p258 said:
Hi guys,
I have been reading through the forum trying to understand everything related to the T-Mobile locked LG G4.
I've got a few questions.
My story in short.
Got a brand new G4 H811VK shipped to me from LG instead of a bricked EU version of G4 I returned. The new phone is locked for T-Mobile, my own fault (they asked me what operator and I choose T-Mobile out of the blue). So this phone has never been on the T-Mobile network and I don't have an account with them.
I contacted T-Mobile and they said they couldn't help me and asked me to talk to LG. LG said they couldn't help me and asked me to talk to T-Mobile. I'm in the center of some loop with a completely locked and unusable phone (I'm in Europe btw.).
So my questions are:
1. Is there any known way to unlock my phone? (I tried swiftunlocks.com but it didn't work)
2. If no to no. 1, is there any other way I can use the phone? Flash a custom rom etc.
All help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance and best regards,
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am pretty sure you can unlock it but not sure wich place can do services for that.. for calls it must be sim unlock. even if you flash rom. search around in the internet you may find a place.
raptorddd said:
am pretty sure you can unlock it but not sure wich place can do services for that.. for calls it must be sim unlock. even if you flash rom. search around in the internet you may find a place.
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We're you located at
ced48 said:
We're you located at
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mexico. but unffortunatelly mine just got the imfamous bootloop. about 3 weeks ago. flashed 4 core twrp amd 4 cores kernel. will work for an hour and bootloop.

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