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I dont know if anyone has asked this, but what happens after 30 mins of the Xperia Z being submerged in water? Though the flaps loosen up and give in? Any ideas?
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It will spontaneously burst into flames, even under water.
On a serious note, probably nothing. IP57 is a test made for 30 minutes but chances are it'll survive a lot more. The next level requires endless submersion at a higher depth and that is probably unreasonable to test/expect. I wouldn't try it out though.
You should see the waterproofing as an extra security. Dropped your phone in a puddle, spilled some water over it, need to take a call and it's raining? No problem. It's meant to survive those things. What it is not meant to do is to remain operational while submersed in water (they've said this on their website). It will, but it's not made to be used as an underwater camera or as a shower texting device (even though it can do those things).
Haha
Great to know, thanks.
I would though like to see a review site test it for longer, just to push the Xperia Z to its limits.
Id expect it it text in the shower like the Nokia 5210? Which I used to have years ago.
But I understand the rest. Thanks Ambroos
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(IP)(5)(7)
IP = Ingress Protection
5 = Dust protected
Desc - Ingress of dust is not entirely prevented, but it must not enter in sufficient quantity to interfere with the satisfactory operation of the equipment; complete protection against contact
7 = Immersion up to 1 m
Desc:
Ingress of water in harmful quantity shall not be possible when the enclosure is immersed in water under defined conditions of pressure and time (up to 1 m of submersion).
Test Routine:
Test duration: 30 minutes
Immersion at depth of at least 1 m measured at bottom of device, and at least 15 cm measured at top of device
The reason why it's not 8 because for you to be able to get IP58 is
8 = Immersion beyond 1 m
Desc: The equipment is suitable for continuous immersion in water under conditions which shall be specified by the manufacturer. Normally, this will mean that the equipment is hermetically sealed. However, with certain types of equipment, it can mean that water can enter but only in such a manner that it produces no harmful effects.
Test Routine:
Test duration: continuous immersion in water
Depth specified by manufacturer
and to get the IP67
6 = Dust tight
Desc: No ingress of dust; complete protection against contact
The highest level is IP68 which requires a dust tight and is capable of staying underwater for an unlimited time. Like submarines.
But this isn't dust tight because of the open ports. And also this can't emerge underwater for an unlimited time because the body isn't airtight and moisture can develop inside the case if submerged longer.
So.......... It is only stated to last 30minutes underwater because that's the criteria level of IP rules is not very specific enough.
So sony only have 2 choices for this... Either go with the rule to state the device that it can be submerged 1meter for 30 minutes or state that it can be submerged down below the water for centuries
So to summarize it all the 30minutes 1 meter is not the device limitation but just the certification's description.
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I dont know if anyone has asked this, but what happens after 30 mins of the Xperia Z being submerged in water? Though the flaps loosen up and give in? Any ideas?
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check this video
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x86rd1_submarine-model-pressure-hull-colla_tech#.URzR7Wdp7DU
Just means its ok to watch porn on the shower
while reading this thread, the follwing question comes into my mind: what about using the phone while taking a bath? don't get me wrong: i do not talk about reading websites UNDER water, but what about the steam? can the phone resist the steam? is this also included in ip 57?
hebbe said:
while reading this thread, the follwing question comes into my mind: what about using the phone while taking a bath? don't get me wrong: i do not talk about reading websites UNDER water, but what about the steam? can the phone resist the steam? is this also included in ip 57?
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thanks for your answer.
so just to be sure and safe: while taking a hot, steamy bath, i can surf the internet (above the water, of course), and the steam can't do any harm to the XZ?
that'll be awesome. how often did i wish i could use my tablet or smartphone for reading stuff while lying in the bath-tube...
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thanks for your answer.
so just to be sure and safe: while taking a hot, steamy bath, i can surf the internet (above the water, of course), and the steam can't do any harm to the XZ?
that'll be awesome. how often did i wish i could use my tablet or smartphone for reading stuff while lying in the bath-tube...
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Hot temperature expands air so it should be safe what you need to worry about is cold water Not that water will get inside but the air inside the device could become moisture if it's cold and wet so dunno for sure
from my experience as a diver, I can say that it is not so much about the duration in water but about the depth and the pressure. The deeper you go into water, the higher is the pressure. For every 10 meter, the pressure doubles. From 1 bar to 2 bar and so on. What this means, is, if you go beyond the depth for which the phone is specified and tested, the protective covers might be too weak to hold steady against the pressure of the water around it. Then they'll give in and bulge inside, thus water comes in -> phone's dead!
This may not mean that if you go 1,1m that the phone will die immediately. It could withstand 2 m, maybe even 3 or 5. But I wouldn't bet or try it out. It may survive these depths, but only for a very short time.
To conclude, I would assume that going to swim for 1 hour in up to 1 m should be fine. But going down to 3m for 5 minutes - not so good idea.
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Just means its ok to watch porn on the shower
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That made me literally laugh out loud:good:
Well I've got my Xperia z, after 4 hours of playing with it, i have put it in the water, everthing its OK? Well no... The Loudspeaker now seems to be muffled. :/
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Well I've got my Xperia z, after 4 hours of playing with it, i have put it in the water, everthing its OK? Well no... The Loudspeaker now seems to be muffled. :/
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somewhere i read that after taking it out of the water, the speaker has to "dry" in order to work properly again. so just wait a few hours and tell us if sound is ok again.
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Well I've got my Xperia z, after 4 hours of playing with it, i have put it in the water, everthing its OK? Well no... The Loudspeaker now seems to be muffled. :/
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wait till it dries off, then the speaker would be ok.
hebbe said:
somewhere i read that after taking it out of the water, the speaker has to "dry" in order to work properly again. so just wait a few hours and tell us if sound is ok again.
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That's normal. Wait till the water dries off, then the speaker will go back to normal.
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Well I've got my Xperia z, after 4 hours of playing with it, i have put it in the water, everthing its OK? Well no... The Loudspeaker now seems to be muffled. :/
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Wait it dries off the speaker or muffled and yes but not fully dry now. Give 30 minute it at least or more so it get out water.
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hebbe
You are all right . 30m later was OK :highfive:
Thanks m8's
Why does Sony advise the phone not be under water longer than 30 min?
Will the water seep in? What's The difference between 1 meter or 10 meters? Water pressure?
I'm just wondering if I can take it snorkling or river rafting with me
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Big difference in water pressure between 1m and 10m not sure about duration though
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Big difference in water pressure between 1m and 10m not sure about duration though
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The pressure at 1meter underwater is approximatively 0,1bar, that jumps up to 1 bar at 10 meters, that's a huge difference!
It's the ip classes 55/57 that decide the 30min 1meter limit.
The phone is certified to ip 55/57.
Tapatalked.
I wonder now why everyone thinks that kind of water resistance will make the phone indistructable.
For me, that water resistance (not waterproof) just makes me feel more confident about my device surviving water related accidents.
Just taking the device to the swimming pool defeats its certification (2 m deep pools are not uncommon, you know), splashing, swimming, just moving around under water, or even worst jumping into the water violently just multiplies the pressure around your device by more than those 0.1 bar.
Hi guys,
Well, I am really scared about doing a waterproof test with my XZR.
Some users have reported problems after using it in water, and it seems that Sony does not want to take them under warranty.
How many of us have done this test ? Did you do it repeatedly, in a pool or just one time to test ?
Please let me know.
Thanks.
I did it once in a bowl. It was good, except for the fact that the USB flap started to slowly come out by itself about 5 minutes after I took the phone out of the water. I pressed it in and it was OK after that. I did the test only once. I also used it once in light rain playing Ingress. It was so cool not worrying about rain damage.
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I bought this phone mainly for its waterpoof capabilities and so far it has not failed. Two times in the bath and one time in the pool.
IMO if you check all the flaps and the o-ring of the battery are in place and clean, there's no reason to worry. Don't open the rear panel too soon after because some drops will stay for a while where the o-ring doesn't protect. I've seen Sony smartphones survive water damage after the flaps were left open. I think the electronics has a protective nano coating.
Anyway, check your flaps and dive in !
I've taken it into the pool about thirty times. Performed as expected each time. The wet finger tracking is brilliant.
My only peeve is the front camera. Takes terribly grainy pictures underwater. The main camera is awesome underwater.
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I'd like to use sony AS~15 to take video for my daughter when she's in swimming pool. Waterproofing function of a phone should be treat as anti-accident solution. I won't put it in water for testing, just like nobody will drive car to hit a wall for testing air bag or safe belt
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GavinLiu said:
I'd like to use sony AS~15 to take video for my daughter when she's in swimming pool. Waterproofing function of a phone should be treat as anti-accident solution. I won't put it in water for testing, just like nobody will drive car to hit a wall for testing air bag or safe belt
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The phone is advertised for it's ability to take photos underwater, your analogy is way off.
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Took it into shower and tested it by dropping it into a 1m depth water bucket.
All works fine
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Took it into shower and tested it by dropping it into a 1m depth water bucket.
All works fine
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whooo, where did you get a 1m deep water bucket? i want to see a picture!
btw, just thought of it, there are special kind of grease materials for water proofing, some of them are quite sticky, people who have problems with thier flaps loosing up might try to apply some, it could help with the proofing and the sticking it in place.
I regularly talk in the shower with it or go swimming, so far after month and half of ownership, absolutely no issues. Same goes for my two year old SONY Active.
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I regularly talk in the shower with it or go swimming, so far after month and half of ownership, absolutely no issues. Same goes for my two year old SONY Active.
Hi,
Is anybody else experiencing a waterproofing fail in your Z1? I took it for a swim a few days ago and I just noticed that there's steam inside the camera lens. The vibration motor is also a bit odd. The steam in the camera lens sometimes goes away but then comes back. I tried going for the warranty but they said that it'll take at least 2-4 weeks to get it fixed.
Edit: it also launched the camera app from sleep. Maybe water got into the camera button for the first few hours but everything's fine now. Even the camera. Should i be concerned?
Take a dryer to it or put it in a bag of rice for a day with the flaps open.
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ryan25012003 said:
Hi,
Is anybody else experiencing a waterproofing fail in your Z1? I took it for a swim a few days ago and I just noticed that there's steam inside the camera lens. The vibration motor is also a bit odd. The steam in the camera lens sometimes goes away but then comes back. I tried going for the warranty but they said that it'll take at least 2-4 weeks to get it fixed.
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thats how long it normally takes..
I have had the same issue with my phone, at first it was fully waterproof but then I sent it back because the ring around the power button fell off, after 15 days I got it back and they fixed all the problems I had BUT then I put it under water for 2 minuter, took it out and couple minutes later the phone started turning itself off and on the whole time. I opened the flaps and everything seemed to be alright, but then I took out the sim card and there was water on it!
The phone was still turning itself on and off so I used the red hard reset button and it shut off the phone for good.. I couldn't get it back to life..
I freaked out and put it on a bag of rice, 2 hours later the phone is still dead.
So then I grabbed a hairdryer, opened all the flaps and started blowing some hot air so it gets dry and it worked!
The next 2 days my camera got foggy like yours whenever I put it in my pocked, but after 2 days it disappeared and it has been working flawlessly ever since then, I dont wanna be without the phone for another 2-3 weeks so I'm not sending it back right now, the main thing is that I can still use it on the rain and while taking a shower, im just not submerging it anymore.
But yeah if you really want it to be fixed send it back, but if you can live without submerging it then I think you are gonna be just fine.
Well its not meant for swimming! That's what it says in your instructions aswell! Don't go swimming with it! It's water resistant, not waterproof!
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slim207rc said:
Well its not meant for swimming! That's what it says in your instructions aswell! Don't go swimming with it! It's water resistant, not waterproof!
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They clearly have official sony ads with people swimming and taking out pictures using the phone in a river/waterfall area. It is meant to stay under water for a half hour. so technically yes it is meant for swimming
Same here it went after a 4 days and on the left part of the screen it doesn't detect my finger i cannot take the icon on the left page and camera button not working headphone is not functioning properly only one side of the headphone workes. Very disappointed.
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slim207rc said:
Well its not meant for swimming! That's what it says in your instructions aswell! Don't go swimming with it! It's water resistant, not waterproof!
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Found this from SONY's website:
Go Underwater
A sudden downpour, hard desert winds or falling into the kitchen sink – the waterproof and dust-resistant1 Xperia Z1 will handle it all. With its IP55/IP58 rating, you can even take photos and videos almost 5 feet (1.5 meters) underwater to capture free-floating hairstyles or spectacular belly flops from a low angle1.
*Need to remember it is good for up to only 30 minutes!
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Found this from SONY's website:
Go Underwater
A sudden downpour, hard desert winds or falling into the kitchen sink – the waterproof and dust-resistant1 Xperia Z1 will handle it all. With its IP55/IP58 rating, you can even take photos and videos almost 5 feet (1.5 meters) underwater to capture free-floating hairstyles or spectacular belly flops from a low angle1.
*Need to remember it is good for up to only 30 minutes!
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Yes, 30 minutes!
And in your manual it says clearly, only clear water, no sea water, no chlorine, no other liquids! Only plain clear water for up to 30 mins.
Find me a pool or sea with only clear water!?
Don't have a go at me about it, it's just as it's written in the manual and the warranty certificate!
Regards
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Yes, 30 minutes!
And in your manual it says clearly, only clear water, no sea water, no chlorine, no other liquids! Only plain clear water for up to 30 mins.
Find me a pool or sea with only clear water!?
Don't have a go at me about it, it's just as it's written in the manual and the warranty certificate!
Regards
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OUCH!
It seems strange that SONY advertises the ability of taking pictures under water...probably in a "fresh water lake or pond"?
I was just "confirming" what was indicated from SONY's website...I wasn't taking a direct attack @ you.
Now we can go back and help answer the OP's original issue....
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Well its not meant for swimming! That's what it says in your instructions aswell! Don't go swimming with it! It's water resistant, not waterproof!
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Actually it's waterproof.. Sony on their site says it's waterproof.. IP58 means it's waterproof.. Even in the instructions manual.. They say you can use it in swimming pool because it's waterproof.. Of course you have to close all the ports
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I took mine to the aquapark for 2 hours on my holidays. It got foggy because of the temperature. Everything was fine 1-2 days later.
No need to freak out.
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Yeah, it's just condensation. Warmer temp inside the phone+cooler water temp=fogginess in the camera lens. Nothing to worry about, it'll go away soon enough.
Then maybe i should sue them for false advertising?
Did you try going for the warranty? That seems like a major issue...
Better go for repair. My friends xperia z motherboard died this way. The water inside the device will never go out until someone opens it and clean it. He had the same problem(He buyed it 500€ and sold 70€), ridiciolous.
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I was down in Mexico for a week and never had any issues like that, I constantly brought my phone in the water with me so I could take pictures of my son
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My suggestion though is the opening and closing the flaps causes wear and tear thus I bought the Sony dock so I wouldn't be opening them that often
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dakunclear said:
I was down in Mexico for a week and never had any issues like that, I constantly brought my phone in the water with me so I could take pictures of my son
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That photo was in a swimming pool? Water with chlorine?
I have a Sony Xperia Z1 Compact and I'm trying to be sure if I can take pictures and record videos underwater in a swimming pool.
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That photo was in a swimming pool? Water with chlorine?
I have a Sony Xperia Z1 Compact and I'm trying to be sure if I can take pictures and record videos underwater in a swimming pool.
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It doesn't matter, the major danger for the phone can be the Salt water (Ocean), if you go on the beach and make same pictures under water, then after that you should wash the phone under sink.
A condensation on Lens for a waterproof device mean Faulty to me, as the condensation come from water that mean there is a water inside, also that condensation do not do good at all to the health of your phone a long way.
You can make picture every where you want, just be careful.
Check this video of mine Z1.
I throw in water and he survived the impact
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pRUSJIvhdI
So, I just got this s5 and decided to take the water resistancs to a new level.
I first ended up going to Cedar Point Amusement park, and went to the water park with it. Took a few video's with it on the slides, etc. Then went to the Wavepool , kept in my pock so it was no more then a few feet under water at any time.
Worked great, phone was still working. Just an FYI, if you do use it underwater, your signal strength will die, no cell signal underwater guys, I first thought the phone fried, but then relized, that was the issue, and then in a min, 4G was back! (I was freaked when I realized my pebble told me I was not connected.) Played with my Sphero for a bit.
a week later, I was at a festival doing some shooting, I was invited to the pool, with all the drugged up artists ,.. They all thought I was on every drug known to man because I brought my phone in the pool to take pictures (a few under water ones too!)
So far so good. I will admit that the phone at no time was fully submerged for more then 5 or 10 min at a time. but the phone still works great, and just needs a rince and dry to get the touch screen to work nomaly again.
so far, I'm not afraid!. I got the Samsung wireless back, I know it's got the seal, so that one is next! this week!
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so far, I'm not afraid!.
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To me it's a "just in case feature" lol... "just in case I..."
I left my phone in a bowl of water for an hour the first day I got it and everything is still fine.
Please report back to what finally drowns it lol.
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Please report back to what finally drowns it lol.
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You all have taken playing with your phone to a whole new level. Maybe I can see testing Samsung's numbers, but who in their right mind is going to intentionally search for the time where the phone actually drowns?
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You all have taken playing with your phone to a whole new level. Maybe I can see testing Samsung's numbers, but who in their right mind is going to intentionally search for the time where the phone actually drowns?
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my theory, is if I am going to actualy do long swimming with it, I will put it my waterproof bag, but jumping into the pool for a quick jaunt, playing with my Sphero, or a waterslide where my phone is not UNDER water for more then a few min at a time, I will risk it.
I never keep phones long enough anyways.
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So, I just got this s5 and decided to take the water resistancs to a new level.
I first ended up going to Cedar Point Amusement park, and went to the water park with it. Took a few video's with it on the slides, etc. Then went to the Wavepool , kept in my pock so it was no more then a few feet under water at any time.
Worked great, phone was still working. Just an FYI, if you do use it underwater, your signal strength will die, no cell signal underwater guys, I first thought the phone fried, but then relized, that was the issue, and then in a min, 4G was back! (I was freaked when I realized my pebble told me I was not connected.) Played with my Sphero for a bit.
a week later, I was at a festival doing some shooting, I was invited to the pool, with all the drugged up artists ,.. They all thought I was on every drug known to man because I brought my phone in the pool to take pictures (a few under water ones too!)
So far so good. I will admit that the phone at no time was fully submerged for more then 5 or 10 min at a time. but the phone still works great, and just needs a rince and dry to get the touch screen to work nomaly again.
so far, I'm not afraid!. I got the Samsung wireless back, I know it's got the seal, so that one is next! this week!
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Chlorine will destroy your waterproof capabilities.
Also your speaker will get saturated and sound like crap - eventually the phone will have a weak speaker resulting in popping/crackling sounds. Just FYI...You can take pictures and the phone can get wet but if your doing it everyday of summer, bad things could happen. I think the Active can do it better than the reg S 5, but I wont go swimming with it. Maybe take pictures once in a while in the pool.
? Makes No sense to me but hey i dont have a silver spoon in my mouth. Even if i could i woulnt cause its a waist of good hardware. Maybe everyone should be poor once in thier life and would appreciate things more.
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Chlorine will destroy your waterproof capabilities.
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I highly doubt the chlorine content in a public pool is high enough to cause the waterproof seals on the S5 to deteriorate.
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I highly doubt the chlorine content in a public pool is high enough to cause the waterproof seals on the S5 to deteriorate.
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It's probably not high enough to break the seal, yes, but your headphone jacks are being exposed to chlorine, as are your speakers. Filtered water at home wouldn't corrode the equipment as fast since... well that's chlorine's job, you're not drinking chlorinated water at home. But yeah, the speakers and headphone jack aren't directly part of the board if I'm correct, instead they are attatched to it (I suck at explaining things, bear with me please) by the looks of it, probably explaining why you can buy the headphone jack and speakers separately as replacement parts instead if the whole board. The reason why the slip is on the charging port is to protect the board, which is in more cases a lot more important than sound equipment. I hope I explained that generally well for no sleep in 36 hours. :laugh:
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I highly doubt the chlorine content in a public pool is high enough to cause the waterproof seals on the S5 to deteriorate.
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Chlorine, maybe not. Extra pressure against the seals, almost assuredly.
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The only thing i can say with absolute confidence is that if you brick your phone, don't expect much help. You're using the phone way out of the normal guidelines.
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Some people have insurance policies, some people have more money and are willing to play with it. Some people are spoiled and didn't pay for their phone and can just ask for another one when it breaks. Whatever the reason, thank you.
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Some people have insurance policies, some people have more money and are willing to play with it. Some people are spoiled and didn't pay for their phone and can just ask for another one when it breaks. Whatever the reason, thank you.
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Good point
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Some people have insurance policies, some people have more money and are willing to play with it. Some people are spoiled and didn't pay for their phone and can just ask for another one when it breaks. Whatever the reason, thank you.
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and some people take the risk and deal with the consequences. I have taken the phone in the pool, and when I am done, I do clean it off, do I plan on doing it on a regular basis, NO, I only did it because I was thinking, I had 30 days to return this phone if it explodes, so I took the risk, in general, If I ever do plan on going to the pool in the future, I have a waterproof bag that I use.
Now the shower, man, is nice to change the song and see whats playing. but I don't submerge it.
Long story short, I was asking for outcomes, I was not asking if anyone was a spoiled brat, had more money then god, did't care if the phone exploded or whatever, those are just troll answers, I was looking for experiences of people willing to take risks, what their device's outcome was, not their financial outcome.
and about chlorine and the seals, that is a legit concern, just like salt in salt water pools. I did not think of that, and this is why i asked.
Water + electricity = busted ****. Common sense. And when the first battery does explode (not 100% on if the battery will do this) from taking into elements they have no business being in I'm sure someone will jump on some lawsuit even though it was there fault cause we all know water and electricity go so well together.
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Water + electricity = busted ****. Common sense. And when the first battery does explode (not 100% on if the battery will do this) from taking into elements they have no business being in I'm sure someone will jump on some lawsuit even though it was there fault cause we all know water and electricity go so well together.
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What? The phone is built to withstand a certain degree of water, hence the iP67 rating, I don't underatand why you are jumping to these astronomically implausible conclusions.
I don't know if you have seen the videos on YouTube but the S5 is highly resistant to water, even more so than the IP67 rating would lead you to believe.
Batteries can explode from various things, sitting too long can cause them to puff up, a direct impact/force can also cause it to explode.
Water+Electricity is bad but telling people their battery will explode if their S5 encounters water is simply doing a disservice to them. There are limits to the S5's water resistance as there are limits to many other things in life, we respect those limits and stay within the designated "safe" boundaries. There is no difference with the S5, respect the limits of the water resistance and continue enjoying the feature.
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What? The phone is built to withstand a certain degree of water, hence the iP67 rating, I don't underatand why you are jumping to these astronomically implausible conclusions.
I don't know if you have seen the videos on YouTube but the S5 is highly resistant to water, even more so than the IP67 rating would lead you to believe.
Batteries can explode from various things, sitting too long can cause them to puff up, a direct impact/force can also cause it to explode.
Water+Electricity is bad but telling people their battery will explode if their S5 encounters water is simply doing a disservice to them. There are limits to the S5's water resistance as there are limits to many other things in life, we respect those limits and stay within the designated "safe" boundaries. There is no difference with the S5, respect the limits of the water resistance and continue enjoying the feature.
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The battery exploding is more or less hypothetical as I said I wasn't a 100% and furthermore like I said water and electricity don't mix. One little flaw in you precious waterproof seals and poof your phones done. I myself have noticed just from charging my phone the USB flap is already loose so no I would not trust submerging my phone in water at any depth. and as for the waterproof rating i would think that applies to things like getting caught in the rain on your phone or dropping it in the toilet and ouickly removing it. Not jumping in a pool or going scuba diving and taking pictures underwater. Purposely Taking your phone into water or any other liquid is just STUPID it's water resistant not watertight or waterproof. Do with your phone what you will I just hate seeing hardware abused even if it is not mine. Sorry if this upsets anyone just my opinion.
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The battery exploding is more or less hypothetical as I said I wasn't a 100% and furthermore like I said water and electricity don't mix. One little flaw in you precious waterproof seals and poof your phones done. I myself have noticed just from charging my phone the USB flap is already loose so no I would not trust submerging my phone in water at any depth. and as for the waterproof rating i would think that applies to things like getting caught in the rain on your phone or dropping it in the toilet and ouickly removing it. Not jumping in a pool or going scuba diving and taking pictures underwater. Lastly this was supposed to be about opinions well here mine. Taking your phone into water or any other liquid is STUPID it's water resistant not watertight or waterproof. Do with your phone what you will I just hate seeing hardware abused even if it is not mine. Sorry if this upsets anyone just my opinion.
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The IP67 rating means Ingress Protection, the S5 in this case is 100% Dust proof as it has the highest value on the scale for dust resistance. The 2nd number in which the S5 has a 7 means water resistant at depths of up to 1m for up to 30 minutes, there is only one level above the S5's rating. This rating is given based on standardized testing so assuming you follow the specified limits and make sure your port covers are sealed, you should be fine taking your device with you in up to 1m of water.
Regarding the loosening of the port cover, that is a major point of concern. My port cover is still very tight fitting but I am have been extremely cautious in making sure it stays at 90° from the opening and doesn't bend in any other direction as to not weaken the flap.
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The IP67 rating means Ingress Protection, the S5 in this case is 100% Dust proof as it has the highest value on the scale for dust resistance. The 2nd number in which the S5 has a 7 means water resistant at depths of up to 1m for up to 30 minutes, there is only one level above the S5's rating. This rating is given based on standardized testing so assuming you follow the specified limits and make sure your port covers are sealed, you should be fine taking your device with you in up to 1m of water.
Regarding the loosening of the port cover, that is a major point of concern. My port cover is still very tight fitting but I am have been extremely cautious in making sure it stays at 90° from the opening and doesn't bend in any other direction as to not weaken the flap.
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Yea the flap is what has me believing it shouldn't be submerged. Say your sitting poolside and drop ur phone in, Yea it's good to have the iP67 rating but just from removing the USB flap to charge i would throw that rating out the window. It's loose
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