Hey everyone
I was just wondering if the Kernel from a Z1C might work enough on our Z3C so that we could make use of this exploit to get root whilst keeping the bootloader locked?
I understand that the Z1C's SoC is a Snapdragon 800 whilst the Z3C is Snapdragon 801.
It does seem we are getting closer to a root solution without unlocking the bootloader...;
Even If it was possible.
Doesnt the bootloader need to be unlocked to change the Kernel?
King p1n said:
Even If it was possible.
Doesnt the bootloader need to be unlocked to change the Kernel?
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Nope, you can flash official firmware/kernels using flashtool.
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Im not sure what the advantages is to unlock the bootloader then obtain root, now as there is a way to root without unlocking bootloader..
can anybody elaborate?? obvious advantage is that sony cant disclaim warranty issues with a locked bootloader.
i would also like to know this
buljo said:
Im not sure what the advantages is to unlock the bootloader then obtain root, now as there is a way to root without unlocking bootloader..
can anybody elaborate?? obvious advantage is that sony cant disclaim warranty issues with a locked bootloader.
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So read under android development
At a guess unlocked boot loader will allow installation of custom roms
Root will allow running software that requires root like root explorer
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Are there any ROMs worth installing yet? I feel like its a lot of bloatware that I dont need are installed with it so it would be nice to clean it
i think everybody that even visits xda know what root is, but unlocking BL vs locked prior to root?
if it`s only the custom roms that cant be installed I`m keeping mine locked and just gonna root. im quite happy with the stock rom.
buljo said:
i think everybody that even visits xda know what root is, but unlocking BL vs locked prior to root?
if it`s only the custom roms that cant be installed I`m keeping mine locked and just gonna root. im quite happy with the stock rom.
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You can install stock based ROMs with a locked bootloader, as long as you stick to Sony's kernel.
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Hey guys/gals
i have a quick question.
what exactly is the difference (featurewise) when it comes to rooting with an unlocked bootloader and rooting with a locked one?
i'm pretty new to android (iOS user until last saturday), did some research today, but didn't really find much usefull information.
main reason i want to root (at least for now. i'm sure i would find more after spending more time with my xperia), is because i want to format my 64gb SD to exfat and move apps over to it.
thanks guys
edit: and no, i'm currently not thinking about getting a different theme/loader on it (this is one of the things you can only do with an unlocked one, right?)
edit2: and yes, my bootloader can be unlocked
dottore. said:
Hey guys/gals
i have a quick question.
what exactly is the difference (featurewise) when it comes to rooting with an unlocked bootloader and rooting with a locked one?
i'm pretty new to android (iOS user until last saturday), did some research today, but didn't really find much usefull information.
main reason i want to root (at least for now. i'm sure i would find more after spending more time with my xperia), is because i want to format my 64gb SD to exfat and move apps over to it.
thanks guys
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Ok unlocked bootloaders = you lose DRM keys forever and Bravia Engine doesn't work. Relocking won't get them back. You can also overclock/underclock CPU with unlocked bootloader. You can also flash custom ROMs/kernels with unlocked bootloader.
Now with locked bootloader you can still have root but you don't lose your DRM keys. You can't flash custom ROMs/kernels or do any overclocking/underclocking.
That's all I can think of.
yeah, i read about that whole DRM thing. i don't care so much about the Bravia Engine and DRM, but i wouldn't mind it staying (first time i said that about DRM), so thats one of the main reason i didn't just went on with unlocking.
is flashing a custom kernel something more or less common when using a rooted android? could i get the things mentioned done without doing it? (i think i read moving apps only needs root, but then again: the xperia z seems to be a bit special when it comes to extSD)
thanks for the fast reply
shadowboy23 said:
Ok unlocked bootloaders = you lose DRM keys forever and Bravia Engine doesn't work. Relocking won't get them back. You can also overclock/underclock CPU with unlocked bootloader. You can also flash custom ROMs/kernels with unlocked bootloader.
Now with locked bootloader you can still have root but you don't lose your DRM keys. You can't flash custom ROMs/kernels or do any overclocking/underclocking.
That's all I can think of.
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is flashing a custom kernel something more or less common when using a rooted android? could i get the things mentioned done without doing it?
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Well it's up to you. You can either flash custom ROMs/kernels if you want but you will need to unlock the bootloader to do that. Locked bootloader you can only have root and that's it sad to say. But you don't have to flash a custom ROM or kernel if you have root. because you can't anyway with a locked bootloader. Having root just means you can use apps that need root access.
shadowboy23 said:
Well it's up to you. You can either flash custom ROMs/kernels if you want but you will need to unlock the bootloader to do that. Locked bootloader you can only have root and that's it sad to say.
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ok, thanks. i think i'll stay with the locked one for now...let's see for how long
Hey there!
I'm about to buy a Xperia Z but I do have a few questions first:
1. Whats the difference between locked and unlocked bootloaders. I mean if I root my Z with locked bootloaders will I be able to flash every Custom Rom or are there Roms which will only be working with unlocked bootloaders?
2. What exactly can the Flashtool do? Is it a bit like ODIN for Galaxy Devices? Does the Z have a Download mode like the Galaxy S3 so I can flash a Stock firmware anytime I want?
Thanks for ur answers.
1- custom roms for locked bootloader are few and limited.
You need unlocked BL to flash custom.kernels,cm,aopk roms....
2-Yes flashtool is same as odin but with many more features,like rooting,unlocking the BL,flashing stock roms.....
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zoecker said:
Hey there!
I'm about to buy a Xperia Z but I do have a few questions first:
1. Whats the difference between locked and unlocked bootloaders. I mean if I root my Z with locked bootloaders will I be able to flash every Custom Rom or are there Roms which will only be working with unlocked bootloaders?
2. What exactly can the Flashtool do? Is it a bit like ODIN for Galaxy Devices? Does the Z have a Download mode like the Galaxy S3 so I can flash a Stock firmware anytime I want?
Thanks for ur answers.
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Locked BL you can still root but cannot flash custom ROMs (but I'm not 100% sure on that see post above by gm007)
Unlocking the BL you lose DRM keys FOREVER and BE2 won't work anymore (some claim they can still make BE2 work)
FlashtTool can easily flash STOCK ROMs without rooting or unlocking BL.
shadowboy23 said:
Locked BL you can still root but cannot flash custom ROMs (but I'm not 100% sure on that see post above by gm007)
Unlocking the BL you lose DRM keys FOREVER and BE2 won't work anymore (some claim they can still make BE2 work)
FlashtTool can easily flash STOCK ROMs without rooting or unlocking BL.
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Before yesterday I had a locked BL and I had a custom rom, you just can't install a custom Kernel when your BootLoader is locked.
Unlocking your BL will cause your drm keys to be lost that's true, but you can save the partition your keys are stored on and you can re-flash the partition to restore the DRM keys. (Did that yesterday) It can be tricky though, Gm007 knows everything about it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2234627
Thanks for the link Dsteppa!
Hello,
I find the rooting thing very confusing.
I have a locked bootloader, is there any way to root my device without unlocking the bootloader? (for example with oneclickroot)
If I unlock the bootloader, what functionality do I lose?
If I understand it clearly, I need to unlock the bootloader, then fastboot the TWRP recovery and then within the recovery I can flash the supersu.zip package?
Also, do I need a kernel with the Sony security disabled if I just want to root the stock ROM? (SONY RIC, SELinux)
I hope someone can clear these things up for me....
Thanks in advance.
By unlocking BL you lose X-reality,Bionz and some sound fuctions if I'm not mistaken but I think there is a way to restore them
josephnero said:
By unlocking BL you lose X-reality,Bionz and some sound fuctions if I'm not mistaken but I think there is a way to restore them
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I unlocked my BL long time ago just because I needed root, I wanted so bad because I need to install cerberus antithief app and some other features.
Then noticed that camera was so slow, video is so lag, so better don't use it and record videos, somethimes color has a lot of contrastbut automatically goes normal, in sound quality and calls I really didn't notice anything bad.
Now that I upgrade to the last firmware, ther is no safe way to root it again, untill now I think I should never unlock my BL...
I have the dual version E6533.
With galaxy and htc I could play around with Sony z3 and plus no root without sacrifying basic functionality... Next phone will be a galaxy s7 or iPhone 7... If possible both... Galaxy for sports iPhone for business and non sports
Basically, there's no way to root any Xperia devices since the Z3+ generation with BL locked. Beacuse Sony update their BL so that you can't replace the kernel even if you rooted the system.
Can all F8132 get root and have custom ROMs installed? Or just one's with a bootloader that can be unlocked? From what I red a root exploit has been discovered but is very difficult. Is it possible on all phones with unlocked bootloader?
lightningglasses said:
Can all F8132 get root and have custom ROMs installed? Or just one's with a bootloader that can be unlocked? From what I red a root exploit has been discovered but is very difficult. Is it possible on all phones with unlocked bootloader?
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Only those with the unlockable bootloader, no matter which model (single or dual sim). Also exploit/root is quite easy to achieve (imo).
serajr said:
Only those with the unlockable bootloader, no matter which model (single or dual sim). Also exploit/root is quite easy to achieve (imo).
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Can you share link to your easy root method?
lightningglasses said:
Can you share link to your easy root method?
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There you go
Procedure starts on Marshmallow firmware.