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This might be a silly question, but does anyone know if the G1 will be able to access the web if you live in an area where 3G is not available yet? I live north of Los Angeles (who has 3G) in Bakersfield and we don't have it yet. I am hoping that I was not an idiot to preorder the phone and then not be able to use all the cool web features.
Thanks in advance,
Jamie
it should still work on the EDGE network
From my understanding it will work with GPRS, Edge, and 3g so you shouldn't have any problems bro by the way I understand the concern.
With a 1150ma battery, GPS, "big" screen etc, 3G will just drain the battery even quicker.
I will not worry about 3G until an extended battery is released- and the fact that 3G will not be in my market for a year of so.
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Hey guys i have a htc wing now, and it does not have a gps. It looks like the gps for this phone is one of the main highlights, because it uses it for a lot of applications. Does anyone know what the gps strength will be like? Will it work will in a building, it do i have the be in direct light for like ten minuites to get a signal?
Anyone with a htc device with a gps already, does it work well?
I hear the android is a-gps, so mabye it will have the ability to somewhat work well when in a pocket, or building.....
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Time for a lesson on GPS... It uses satellites in the sky, and you need a view of a certain amount of satellites to find your location (4 will find you but not very accurately, the more the better). If you're in a building, and not right next to a window, no GPS will ever find your location, ever. That's like asking if your internet will work if the ethernet cable is unplugged from the back of your computer and you don't have wifi, it goes against the entire idea of how it functions.
Now, as for the quality of the HTC GPS receiver... People have complained about GPS lag, but I maintain my opinion that it's completely software related, my Fuze had none whatsoever. You don't need to be in sunlight, just have enough clear sky that it can get a reading from the satellites. I've taken trips with the Fuze even on very cloudy days and it took a little longer to get a lock (5-10 mins, it locks in like 30 seconds to a minute with clear skies) but once it had my position, it stayed true. All of the upcoming HTC devices use A-GPS, by the way. Diamond, Touch Pro, Xperia, G1...
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WHAAAT? you dont want to use 3g? lol in my opinion thats 50 percent of the phones features.
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He's using the battery draining as an excuse, something to keep him from pulling his hair out because he won't have 3G for another year. Anyone who's used a phone for data features on both networks knows EDGE doesn't hold a candle to 3G.
As for the original post, yes, it will give you all of the same data features on EDGE as on 3G.
The big thing with A-GPS is that it's mainly used to increase the startup speed of your GPS. Instead of waiting 10 minutes to download the almanac of the satellites in the sky from the GPS sats, it downloads the data over your data connection, using the basis of which cell site you're connected to for determining your rough location. This way it only takes about 30 seconds to get a fix instead of much longer.
The sensitivity of the GPS on phones has been fairly good as far as i've seen on devices like the Tilt and such, so I don't see why a phone with such a heavy emphasis on location-based apps would have a sub-par GPS setup. Here's hoping things work well.
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He's using the battery draining as an excuse, something to keep him from pulling his hair out because he won't have 3G for another year. Anyone who's used a phone for data features on both networks knows EDGE doesn't hold a candle to 3G.
As for the original post, yes, it will give you all of the same data features on EDGE as on 3G.
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Thanks to one and all!!! I am looking forward to my G1 and retiring my Wing.
Black93300ZX said:
He's using the battery draining as an excuse, something to keep him from pulling his hair out because he won't have 3G for another year. Anyone who's used a phone for data features on both networks knows EDGE doesn't hold a candle to 3G.
As for the original post, yes, it will give you all of the same data features on EDGE as on 3G.
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3g doesnt burn that much battery unless your using it constantly like as a primary internet for your computer. also when you put your phone in sleep mode it isnt runnig in the background
haitiankid4lyf said:
3g doesnt burn that much battery unless your using it constantly like as a primary internet for your computer. also when you put your phone in sleep mode it isnt runnig in the background
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Exactly... But when you're without 3G, I guess you try to justify why it's not as good, and that's what he came up with. It's like everything though, people on here try to justify why the iPhone isn't as good as the Diamond/Touch Pro, truth be told it's better in many aspects but comes short in many as well.
3g data transfer?
ok i currently have the tmo wing.. and i can connect my lappy to the tmo data network via usb port.. will i be able to do this with the g1?yes/no maybe?
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ok i currently have the tmo wing.. and i can connect my lappy to the tmo data network via usb port.. will i be able to do this with the g1?yes/no maybe?
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I choose D... all of the above
No... it will not work out of the box.
Yes/maybe... it should work someday soon unless HTC/T-Mobile have somehow disabled that ability in hardware.
As soon as I get the phone I will be working on it on the Linux side (not an actual internet sharing app... more of a route/iptables script) and I am sure someone will work on a java solution (although a kernel solution would be faster). There was an application for the iPhone that provided internet sharing but it was banned from apple store and Google has said they won't do that so I think it should be here soon.
problems with Wireless (3g and wifi)
does anybody else have problems with the 3g?
i have tmobile and i didnt select the option for only 2g but my 3g keeps going in and out even when im in the same spot it'll go from 3g to Edge for no reason.
also does anybody have problem conecting to wifi?
i have a linksys wireless n (WRT300N) router, the ssid is visible and uts using wep security but when ever i try to connect to it it says out of range or it just stops trying to connect Please Help
haitiankid4lyf said:
does anybody else have problems with the 3g?
i have tmobile and i didnt select the option for only 2g but my 3g keeps going in and out even when im in the same spot it'll go from 3g to Edge for no reason.
also does anybody have problem conecting to wifi?
i have a linksys wireless n (WRT300N) router, the ssid is visible and uts using wep security but when ever i try to connect to it it says out of range or it just stops trying to connect Please Help
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I have an issue with my G1 WIFI connection. If i broadcast my SSID I connect with no problems. but if i disable the broadcast it will not connect, and this is with me manually putting in the connections into the phone.
I called TMobile but they said i needed to call HTC. they didn't have a solution.
BTW, I have no WEP enabled. I just disable the SSID broadcast.
I just connected to my Linksys router with WPA2 and had 3G running, connected no problem.
Haitiankid: try entering the details of your network manually and seeing if it will connect then. Also, as for the 3G fading in and out, are you in a week signal area for 3G?
wifi working
I got my wifi to work. It was my routers fault. What I did was in went into my routers settings by typing 192.168.1.1 and entered 'admin' (no quotes) and no password. Once in my settings I changed my brocasting type from b&g mixed to all mixed changed frequency to auto, changed network key from shared to open and wifi started working. I don't know if all those steps were neccesary but it worked for me. Hope it works for some else.
As for the 3g it seems to be getting better
for those of you with the 3g/edge switching problem...
Hey, if uve got the 3g switching to edge back and forth continuously, its likely because you didnt get a new SIM card when u got the g1. It simply means you have an old SIM card that doesnt support 3g well, call tmobile up tell them your situation, theyve given most people a free new SIM card thats more compatible.
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Hey, if uve got the 3g switching to edge back and forth continuously, its likely because you didnt get a new SIM card when u got the g1. It simply means you have an old SIM card that doesnt support 3g well, call tmobile up tell them your situation, theyve given most people a free new SIM card thats more compatible.
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I don't think that's the case. I've had the same SIM card since 2000, no problems like this. If any SIM is too old to support 3G, I'd think one made 8 years ago would definitely be the case.
It sounds like he's in a bad coverage area, which could be lots of things. There is a coverage map on the T-Mo website, don't know if it shows 3G. Or it could be the building he's in. My phones have never worked at my grandmother's house. I get full bars on the front porch, and full bars the second I get out the back door, but no signal in the house itself. Even relatives on other networks get little to no coverage inside the house. Probably the really really old insulation and building materials are blocking the signal. At my last apartment I only had a good signal on the corner of my bed, and that disappeared when new neighbors moved in upstairs.
These are radio waves, which aren't foolproof or perfect, they encounter all kinds of interference. Nothings going to be as secure and consistant as a wired connection. Nature of the beast, unfortunately.
haitiankid4lyf said:
I got my wifi to work. It was my routers fault. What I did was in went into my routers settings by typing 192.168.1.1 and entered 'admin' (no quotes) and no password. Once in my settings I changed my brocasting type from b&g mixed to all mixed changed frequency to auto, changed network key from shared to open and wifi started working. I don't know if all those steps were neccesary but it worked for me. Hope it works for some else.
As for the 3g it seems to be getting better
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Careful dude, with the security set to open anyone within range (neighbors, wardrivers, etc.) can use your wifi to get on the internet. Try using WPA or WPA2 security, but leaving it all mixed and frequency at auto.
hi im waiting my new nexus one, as a posted before in general but before comes i want ask some questions. im reading about ROOT, and so on but i cant find how disable 3G, and disable AGPS since at the moment i dont have data plan, i will upgrade in couple of months because i was keep my lg incite and internet or NO and wait a little to upgarde 3G network, so im wonderin its anyway or guide oto turn off AGPS?and 3g?well and i guess if i didint configure grps i dont have worry about gprs but yes for 3g and AGPS any thoughs?sorry i searched and couldnt find im new on NO LOL i dont even have it yet xD
*waiting*
and i read sense desire seems BT isnt working =( so shame
any other good rom? what its your favorite?and its any HTC hero sense?or its the same as desire rom? well thanks a lot i will apreciate the help in this android world =X
You can use QuickSettings from the market to disable mobile networks completely. You can also in the phone settings only allow 2G.
As far as AGPS is concerned it uses Cell Towers to triangulate the location of the phone and doesnt use any Data unless you are using the Maps app which will need to download the map info.
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You can use QuickSettings from the market to disable mobile networks completely. You can also in the phone settings only allow 2G.
As far as AGPS is concerned it uses Cell Towers to triangulate the location of the phone and doesnt use any Data unless you are using the Maps app which will need to download the map info.
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oh thats nice and you sure?since i used garmin once with my WM and AGPS was activated and BAM the bill accoutn was SOOO HIGH :S
theres a disable "use wireless networks" option. the description is "location determined by wifi and/or mobile networks"
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You can use QuickSettings from the market to disable mobile networks completely. You can also in the phone settings only allow 2G.
As far as AGPS is concerned it uses Cell Towers to triangulate the location of the phone and doesnt use any Data unless you are using the Maps app which will need to download the map info.
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That's not how AGPS works, it does use data, albeit a tiny amount. It receives info on the location of GPS satellites so it knows what to lock onto.
Rusty! said:
That's not how AGPS works, it does use data, albeit a tiny amount. It receives info on the location of GPS satellites so it knows what to lock onto.
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omg so i need disable O.O
zen kun said:
omg so i need disable O.O
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try apndroid on the market
will cut off all data if u tell it too
bigballa said:
try apndroid on the market
will cut off all data if u tell it too
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yay thanks i want my NO sooon i will tomorrow pay on ebay
ok i got the track number now and seems they send me the NO so im kind excited i want try root after test and maybe desire rom heh but i just want to know
the root its danger? i mean i guess its like linux "hack" to get root acces in exploit or something but never knows, root the device could brick the NO ?or its a low chance
My N1 used to be able to get a decent signal everywhere in the house but of late it's struggling to even detect and maintain a solid connection with the wireless in the next room to the router.
I've got a laptop and iPhone in here and all of them have full bars except the N1, which keeps switching from data to wireless and back and can't maintain the connection consistently.
Any ideas on why?
Does it have to do anything with the radio/kernel?
Anyone?
I'm thinking of changing the kernel, would that help?
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My N1 used to be able to get a decent signal everywhere in the house but of late it's struggling to even detect and maintain a solid connection with the wireless in the next room to the router.
I've got a laptop and iPhone in here and all of them have full bars except the N1, which keeps switching from data to wireless and back and can't maintain the connection consistently.
Any ideas on why?
Does it have to do anything with the radio/kernel?
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Try this first.
Tell the phone to forget the network, restart your router and see if reconnecting takes care of it. My notebook used to have this issue so it's worth a shot.
If that doesn't help, then you might look into a different ROM/Kernel or make sure that it's not a hardware fault with the N1 itself.
Could it be due to an OTA update that changed the radio?
The same happens to me, And it gets to a stage that it totally disconnects from wifi. It's really getting ln my nerves as we even got a booster and it doesn't help :?
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same weak wifi signal on HTC Desire.
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Could it be due to an OTA update that changed the radio?
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i second that. though i don't own N1, my Desire was getting full signal last year, recently i am getting very low signal as well. other devices get full signal as usual. so probably there was some update messing up.
i'll keep on searching if someone has better info to resolve.
Radio doesn't have anything to do with WiFi. Kernel does.
i'm having the same problem...has anyone found a fix?
The problem's extended significantly. Bluetooth headset usage stutters profusely, even when I'm right next to the device.
I'm pretty sure the Wi-Fi issue has nothing to do with my router, since my Desire has full signal in the same place my N1 has one bar and is struggling to get a connection.
Changed kernels, ROMs, radios, flashed engineering SPL (I know that doesn't help, however) and even a stock EPE54B ROM. No results.
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My N1 used to be able to get a decent signal everywhere in the house but of late it's struggling to even detect and maintain a solid connection with the wireless in the next room to the router.
I've got a laptop and iPhone in here and all of them have full bars except the N1, which keeps switching from data to wireless and back and can't maintain the connection consistently.
Any ideas on why?
Does it have to do anything with the radio/kernel?
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try flashing back to pershoot's 2.6.35.9 kernel.
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try flashing back to pershoot's 2.6.35.9 kernel.
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Makes no difference, I even tried flashing back to stock EPE54B (fastboot).
you may also give intersectRaven's kernel a try. the one with the wifi boost.
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you may also give intersectRaven's kernel a try. the one with the wifi boost.
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2.6.38.6_CAVS-CM7_CFS_20110517_2251 is the one I'm trying.
Nope, Wi-Fi range still the same, Bluetooth still stuttering on the new kernel.
Hi everyone,
I remembered this from my Nokia E71 days. Everytime I would launch an application that required data, the phone would ask me which network to use of the available ones. Of course I had the choice to disable this, and restrict access to only one network such as wifi always or a wifi-first policy.
I am wondering if any of the droid apps/ROMs/mods offer this capability.
This is specifically to maintain a user controlled wifi/3g/nodata equilibrium to manage battery and costs better.
Any help would be much useful.
Thanks!
The firewall droidwall allows you to restrict apps to either wifi, 3g, or none. But it has to be configured in advance, no pop up functionality exists as far as I know.
Not really what I am looking for... But thanks.
Anyone else who can help?
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The firewall droidwall allows you to restrict apps to either wifi, 3g, or none. But it has to be configured in advance, no pop up functionality exists as far as I know.
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I use beautiful widget toggles to quickly turn on or off either wifi or network data. So, when I won't be using either one for a while, they can both be off.
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I use beautiful widget toggles to quickly turn on or off either wifi or network data. So, when I won't be using either one for a while, they can both be off.
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Also, as a follow up, I have also used Juice defender to sort of manage this, though whether or not it actually saves more battery than it uses is quite debated. I just use the toggles on my home screen to do to manage this manually, though very quickly.
Ok so I'm running a Rom that has the native Wi-Fi tether enabled but as soon as a device connects the signal drops (meaning I loose data on the phone)
I've noticed many many people after updating to kitkat having the same problem but no one has a solution.
Has anyone found a workaround to get Wi-Fi tether working again?
I'm using a sense based rom. Not sure if aosp rom would fix this issue.
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Ok so I'm running a Rom that has the native Wi-Fi tether enabled but as soon as a device connects the signal drops (meaning I loose data on the phone)
I've noticed many many people after updating to kitkat having the same problem but no one has a solution.
Has anyone found a workaround to get Wi-Fi tether working again?
I'm using a sense based rom. Not sure if aosp rom would fix this issue.
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i've been using this, seems to work fine i downloaded a couple roms last week over 4g ok. some say weak 4g signal keeps dropping?/
knightwolf123 said:
Ok so I'm running a Rom that has the native Wi-Fi tether enabled but as soon as a device connects the signal drops (meaning I loose data on the phone)
I've noticed many many people after updating to kitkat having the same problem but no one has a solution.
Has anyone found a workaround to get Wi-Fi tether working again?
I'm using a sense based rom. Not sure if aosp rom would fix this issue.
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+1. I have been searching for a fix myself. The 4g and native tether do not work well together, at least with me. I've tried the patch on stock roms as well with the same results. I connect just fine, but then seconds later the data will drop. I have good 4g coverage and without the hotspot active, the connection will never drop. If I switch to cdma only there are no drops while tethering. I have been testing different scenarios to find a solution, but no success yet. I also have not found any mention of the problem on the cm threads, but I prefer sense and have not tested. It makes me wonder if the sprint proxies are causing this. I am tethering a window device.
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+1. I have been searching for a fix myself. The 4g and native tether do not work well together, at least with me. I've tried the patch on stock roms as well with the same results. I connect just fine, but then seconds later the data will drop. I have good 4g coverage and without the hotspot active, the connection will never drop. If I switch to cdma only there are no drops while tethering. I have been testing different scenarios to find a solution, but no success yet. I also have not found any mention of the problem on the cm threads, but I prefer sense and have not tested. It makes me wonder if the sprint proxies are causing this. I am tethering a window device.
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I've tried several rings and only one I can get to work on4g for tether Is superonek... There's prob something else but that's been my experience so far
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I've tried several rings and only one I can get to work on4g for tether Is superonek... There's prob something else but that's been my experience so far
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Thanks. I had not tried that one yet. Been bouncing from viper to bad boyz. I'll report back. I appreciate you sharing your find.
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Thanks. I had not tried that one yet. Been bouncing from viper to bad boyz. I'll report back. I appreciate you sharing your find.
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No problem, I was on ecliptic one but 4G appeared at my work one day, then one night I went to sleep with3g and woke to having 4g lol...plus we had a little road trip to the wife's family and my oldest one uses her iPod on the tether...long trip with out it lol..
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+1. I have been searching for a fix myself. The 4g and native tether do not work well together, at least with me. I've tried the patch on stock roms as well with the same results. I connect just fine, but then seconds later the data will drop. I have good 4g coverage and without the hotspot active, the connection will never drop. If I switch to cdma only there are no drops while tethering. I have been testing different scenarios to find a solution, but no success yet. I also have not found any mention of the problem on the cm threads, but I prefer sense and have not tested. It makes me wonder if the sprint proxies are causing this. I am tethering a window device.
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Just curious...do you have a hotspot plan with Sprint?
I am having the same problem with the stock OTA and and using the hotspot hacks since I don't have a hotspot plan. It would be interesting to know if those with a hotspot plan (for which the native app should work unhacked) have the 4G problem too...
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Just curious...do you have a hotspot plan with Sprint?
I am having the same problem with the stock OTA and and using the hotspot hacks since I don't have a hotspot plan. It would be interesting to know if those with a hotspot plan (for which the native app should work unhacked) have the 4G problem too...
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Good question. No I do not have the hotspot plan. Never have needed it with the fix prior to kk. I'm not abusive of it, but I simply hate the fact that 4g now doesn't work very well with tethering. Seems to be a hit or miss with everyone. Mine will connect, load a few pages then out of nowhere the connection drops. Go cdma only and it works as should. I'm hoping a few of these threads will gather some attention and help us find a solution for everyone.
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Good question. No I do not have the hotspot plan. Never have needed it with the fix prior to kk. I'm not abusive of it, but I simply hate the fact that 4g now doesn't work very well with tethering. Seems to be a hit or miss with everyone. Mine will connect, load a few pages then out of nowhere the connection drops. Go cdma only and it works as should. I'm hoping a few of these threads will gather some attention and help us find a solution for everyone.
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Been testing some CM builds of Kit Kat. I have been running CM11 build modded by IrocEvo the last few days. I have had zero issues with any type of tethering. 4G tethering works as should with no disconnects. I'm not sure what the difference is in the scripts for the mods, but possibly someone could assist here. For now, ill be keeping a backup of this build specifically for tethering purposes.
I don't have hot spot on my plan, but I'm trying the new ecliptic rom with sense six, just haven't been able to try4g tether today...been to busy building an engine :/ hopefully try tomorrow
After some further testing on the CDMA+LTE mode, I was able to determine that I could successfully tether my android tablet and samsung smart TV with no interruptions. The problems begin while using this mode (rather than CDMA only) and tethering my laptop. It appears while using this radio mode sprint sniffs the packets for user agent data and once determined its a windows device the connection is interrupted. My question is, why would this happen on this radio mode only? Are the APN settings different for this mode and can those be changed. Sorry to keep beating the horse, but I would like to find a solution rather than running a VPN to tether my windows 8.1 laptop. Any ideas? Thanks everyone.
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After some further testing on the CDMA+LTE mode, I was able to determine that I could successfully tether my android tablet and samsung smart TV with no interruptions. The problems begin while using this mode (rather than CDMA only) and tethering my laptop. It appears while using this radio mode sprint sniffs the packets for user agent data and once determined its a windows device the connection is interrupted. My question is, why would this happen on this radio mode only? Are the APN settings different for this mode and can those be changed. Sorry to keep beating the horse, but I would like to find a solution rather than running a VPN to tether my windows 8.1 laptop. Any ideas? Thanks everyone.
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Hmm that's interesting, I tether with my tough book(Windows7) on this rom, both 3g and 4g with no issues like that...yet..Lol
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Hmm that's interesting, I tether with my tough book(Windows7) on this rom, both 3g and 4g with no issues like that...yet..Lol
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Do you use chrome or IE? When I use chrome all is fine, when I start using IE I get the drops. I'm using a MS Surface Pro on Win8.1. Strange, but I think I have pinned it down.
Why would you choose to use internet explorer?
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Do you use chrome or IE? When I use chrome all is fine, when I start using IE I get the drops. I'm using a MS Surface Pro on Win8.1. Strange, but I think I have pinned it down.
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Honestly I use both chrome and ie...my work stuff and chrome don't agree...but I use chrome for just about everything else
I've looked into this before and the common response I would find is that it has to do with the Hotspot apk in Sense. There was some sort of change when moving from JB 4.2 to 4.3.
I've since moved to the Google edition rom and everything works there ?
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I've since moved to the Google edition rom and everything works there ?
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+1. I have had no issues with wifi tethering on the CM builds here as well. Made a nandroid of a CM setup that I use when needed. Wish we could determine the difference. Thanks for the GE tip.
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i've been using this, seems to work fine i downloaded a couple roms last week over 4g ok. some say weak 4g signal keeps dropping?/
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Froze TetheringGuard and this worked once. Then no internet on tethered tablet. Stock, rooted, s- on
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