Okay, so I am going to root the XT1092 I have but I heard that I will no longer receive the OTA updates after doing so.
Another thing, the only reason I want to root is to enable ad blocking because it's not my phone. But if that would disable the OTA updates then I don't want to.
So is there a way to enable ad blocking without root? Perhaps by pushing in a different hosts file without root, if that is possible? (No don't want my traffic to go through AdBlock Plus's proxy server. That will just slow things down.)
Bump. Just a few simple questions.
None of those things are possible without root and no OTAs either with root or even with root uninstalled. The only way to return for OTAs is to flash the stock images.
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So I've had my d4 since the release date. I have only rooted two phones no roms nothing special. I read the posts on this form just about every day been through just about all of them. I just want a simple root to remove all the junk. If I use the d4 utility to root will safe strap be installed? After root can I still get the OTA updates with out doing anything special, or something simple like a mere unroot that is in the utility? In the event that I need to send it in will the steps listed in another post suffice? Please assist I really want to root, but I love this phone and have never paid so much for any phone...
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nah, you dont have to do anything special
i used the motofail to root, and froze all the bloatware with root uninstaller
when the time came i unfroze everything, unrooted, installed the 219 patch
and re-rooted
Definitely freeze apps instead of deleting them. Otherwise an OTA update will fail. Also, use Voodoo OTA Root Keeper to preserve root access after an update. While I believe current exploits work on the latest update, there's no guarantee they will continue to work with future updates.
OK I know pwnmymoto is the current updated root method for the moto x but it is not simply unrooted. RSDlite and flashing is required (sadly I am a noob to this). Mainly doing this to get tethering (unlimited data Verizon plan). Was thinking that I would just install the motoroot app for root instead cause then I can revert back to stock when an ota for the camera comes out with a simple factory reset as the recovery is not modified like in the pwnmymoto app. Is this a correct assumption and a smart way to go about this? Thanks for any info or advice. @jcase
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OK I know pwnmymoto is the current updated root method for the moto x but it is not simply unrooted. RSDlite and flashing is required (sadly I am a noob to this). Mainly doing this to get tethering (unlimited data Verizon plan). Was thinking that I would just install the motoroot app for root instead cause then I can revert back to stock when an ota for the camera comes out with a simple factory reset as the recovery is not modified like in the pwnmymoto app. Is this a correct assumption and a smart way to go about this? Thanks for any info or advice. @jcase
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If you used motoroot, you can just press the unroot button then uninstall the app
jcase said:
If you used motoroot, you can just press the unroot button then uninstall the app
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@jcase then I assume uninstalling supersu next. Figured I would not need a r/w root as your pwnmymoto if all I will be doing is rocking a tether app. Kind of looking forward to the ota for this dang camera on Verizon.
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@jcase then I assume uninstalling supersu next. Figured I would not need a r/w root as your pwnmymoto if all I will be doing is rocking a tether app. Kind of looking forward to the ota for this dang camera on Verizon.
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If you stay rooted and wait for the bootstrap, you should be able to flash the updates and keep root. No ETA on the bootstrap though. Jcase has mentioned he doesn't plan on exploiting the update but you never know.
rmead01 said:
If you stay rooted and wait for the bootstrap, you should be able to flash the updates and keep root. No ETA on the bootstrap though. Jcase has mentioned he doesn't plan on exploiting the update but you never know.
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OK I got ya. So just to clarify for my knowledge. I am safe to install OTA updates because I never messed with the recovery is that correct? And hence why you can't with pwnmymoto as it replaces the recovery. Just new to rooting and am figuring it out as I go a long. I apologize for the stupid questions haha. Soon I will become versed in this but just behind the times (haven't done any modifications like this since the old Xbox modding days).
So gotta thank @jcase for the answers and his old exploit LINK
After installing his motoroot app and then superSU. All I did was install wifi tether and followed the directions posted by @addictedhacks LINK
Happy with this route as it was super simple, did not need a PC, and got me my wifi tether for my verizon phone. The big plus and the reason I went this way was for the ability to unroot without a PC (and I believe no fear of an OTA causing issues if updated), and I really did not need the R/W ability of jcase's pwnmymoto being new to all this rooting. Gotta start somewhere. I figured I would share in case other new people out there are afraid to go forward and maybe this route is a viable option for you. Thanks.
Hey all, so Ive been lurking for a few weeks now about about to order a N3 thru ATT. Im actually coming from a Nexus 5 where things are very easy so bear with me. Just wanted to get clarity before I made a purchase
1. Not so much related to root but Im planning to get the phone, root it, and apply the Xposed modules, to see if I can live with Touchwiz. Im assuming (will need to confirm) that ATT would take back within 14 days if it doesnt go so well, assuming I dont trip warranty flags, etc. Anyone know their policy?
2. From my reading, to root this, I actually need to run a lower firmware. Is this still 4.3 or is it like 4.2.2?
3. The general process is to open device, keep off wifi, oneclick it, odin it, apply root. They to disable OTAs via Titanium Backup. Is this correct?
4. Does doing the above method trip any flags? I believe there are two, a KNOX one and a general Custom one
5. Similarly, if the answer is yes, are there methods to get it back.
6. Limitations of the root method above is that still no access to custom recoverys, so no ROMs, but the xposed framework should work just fine. Also TB cannot do restores? Anything else Im missing?
7. Last one, regarding the older firmware, any idea what is different between the rooted firmware and the 'now current' one? I mean besides probably added security to prevent root. Any actual bug fixes or features?
Sorry if most of these are obvious but appreciate the confirmation!
Thanks
1. You don't need to live with touchwiz - you can hack it up (there are modded versions with minor changes) or just replace it with Nova Launcher. Nova doesn't even need root....
2. No, this is not true. You can root via RDLV on MI9 firmware, or use Kingo root on later versions (however, there has been debate over whether kingo has malware). If you have MJ5 firmware, you cannot root via RDLV, at least not at the moment (and cannot downgrade). You can keep root with RDLV after upgrading by using supersu survival mode, according to others (I haven't tried this myself, since the update checks builtin apks and won't install if you've modified SecLauncher4.apk to customize touchwiz, so i'd have to revert that...)
3. No. See the RDLV thread, it's a bit more complicated. For kingo, I don't know anything about the process.
4. Makes it custom, but does not trigger Knox flag.
5. Custom can be undone by returning to stock. Knox is an e-fuse and can never be reset.
6. XPosed and TB work fine.
7. Was wondering the same thing myself.
Thanks. Regarding Touchwiz, as soon as the device is rooted I plan to put Nova Beta on there as well as Wanom for Xposed to more simulate the stock experience. Plus drop most of the stock Samsung apps in favor of Googles.
It sounds like a need to read up more on the firmware and root method. I suppose the RDLV was for an older firmware which, if Im buying the phone now, may no longer be possible
Is MI9 the default stock firmware the phone had been shipping with, or is it now shipping with MJ5? (or is MJ5 an OTA update only)?
Thanks!
Ordered an X during the sale yesterday to replace my S3. Was wondering if there is a way to root that retains all OTA functionality. I've heard that it's pretty solid stock so I probably won't be flashing any roms. Just want to keep using TiBU and other apps that require root..
Thanks..
ddiehl said:
Ordered an X during the sale yesterday to replace my S3. Was wondering if there is a way to root that retains all OTA functionality. I've heard that it's pretty solid stock so I probably won't be flashing any roms. Just want to keep using TiBU and other apps that require root..
Thanks..
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Not too sure what you mean by "retains all OTA functionality" If you mean does it change any of the features on the phone? Then yes, rooting retains ALL functionality, it doesn't change the way the phone works at all. You just have the ability and access to change the things you want.
If you mean will you still have the ability to take an OTA then no, rooting prevents you from taking the OTA without additional steps.
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Not too sure what you mean by "retains all OTA functionality" If you mean does it change any of the features on the phone? Then yes, rooting retains ALL functionality, it doesn't change the way the phone works at all. You just have the ability and access to change the things you want.
If you mean will you still have the ability to take an OTA then no, rooting prevents you from taking the OTA without additional steps.
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You are 100% on point the phones stays stock but in order for you to take OTA's you will have to return to 100% stock with no root. then take the OTA or in 4.4 case follow the root guide so you can root the 4.4 OTA.
So, admittedly, I'm not very knowledgeable on PIE root method and Towelroot and what tethered root really does. I know that having root and TWRP can break some updates. Since this is a tethered root that goes away after a reboot, is a reboot all that is necessary to return completely to stock or are there other steps that one must take before doing any OTA's?
Verizon Moto X (Locked Bootloader, duh)
Because write protection is still enabled, and PIE and Towel are both "temp" roots, changes made are lost at power off/on.
BUT keep in mind, they wont work after you update your phone. So if you need root... do NOT update.
thank you. That was my assumption but it doesn't hurt to get verification. I decided that I'm passing on any updates until Android L comes our way.