Hello, I'm quite new to this, but i just wanted to know if there is any way to root the phone without unlocking the bootloader, i'm guessing there isn't but
dancivuk said:
Hello, I'm quite new to this, but i just wanted to know if there is any way to root the phone without unlocking the bootloader, i'm guessing there isn't but
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No there is no way to gain root without unlocking the bootloader.
If you don't mind me asking, Why do you not want to unlock it?
Sent from my M7 ARHD 84-Kitkat
Danny201281 said:
No there is no way to gain root without unlocking the bootloader.
If you don't mind me asking, Why do you not want to unlock it?
Sent from my M7 ARHD 84-Kitkat
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i feel it's like a hassle to do all of that stuff, i guess im gonna do it if the phone doesn't get the 5.1 update.
thanks btw
dancivuk said:
i feel it's like a hassle to do all of that stuff, i guess im gonna do it if the phone doesn't get the 5.1 update.
thanks btw
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Well you could use Sunshine App. This will Unlock the bootloader and grant s-off. Just launch the app and let it do it's thing. But it does cost $25. It's a very easy rooting method if you don't mind paying the fee.
Other than that there's only HTCdev to unlock for free. :good:
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I'm contemplating unlocking my bootloader via HTC Dev Unlock and flashing a custom ROM. However, I'm wondering how I would go about updating my radios after doing this since my understanding of HTC Dev Unlock doesn't include the ability to flash radios.
Is there any way to do it other than backing up and flashing back to stock to accept the OTA?
Thanks!
You can just go s-off and flash a radio.
budeone said:
You can just go s-off and flash a radio.
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I understand that, but if I don't want to go S-Off (i.e. follow the rules), how does it work?
There is a program that I heard flashes radios called Flash Image GUI.
I have never tried it for radios because I always go s-off.
Maybe someone else can help you better.
I know it does flash kernels when you are s-on. I used to use it all the time on the LTE before they found an s-off fix.
gksmithlcw said:
I understand that, but if I don't want to go S-Off (i.e. follow the rules), how does it work?
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it doesn't.
Aldo101t said:
it doesn't.
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That's what I figured.... So what the hell's the point? LOL
gksmithlcw said:
That's what I figured.... So what the hell's the point? LOL
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well, i guess the point is if you want to flash radios you need s-off.
Aldo101t said:
well, i guess the point is if you want to flash radios you need s-off.
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Right, which HTC does not facilitate, so what's the point of allowing a bootloader unlock that makes your phone non-updateable?
gksmithlcw said:
Right, which HTC does not facilitate, so what's the point of allowing a bootloader unlock that makes your phone non-updateable?
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i don't think HTC ficilitates the unlocked bootloader either, as is ststed in their disclaimer prior to unlocking, so?
Aldo101t said:
i don't think HTC ficilitates the unlocked bootloader either, as is ststed in their disclaimer prior to unlocking, so?
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Dude... Their unlocking IS unlocking the bootloader.
gksmithlcw said:
Dude... Their unlocking IS unlocking the bootloader.
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that's what i'm talking about.
Aldo101t said:
that's what i'm talking about.
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Then what's the confusion? They facilitate unlocking the bootloader via their own tools, but doing so renders the device un-updateable without breaking their own rules and hacking the device to gain S-Off.
And that, I find quite stupid.
gksmithlcw said:
Then what's the confusion? They facilitate unlocking the bootloader via their own tools, but doing so renders the device un-updateable without breaking their own rules and hacking the device to gain S-Off.
And that, I find quite stupid.
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ok, have you unlocked yet?? What i'm trying to say is they don't condone unlocking the bootloader either, which is stated in the unlock process.it's your chioce(the user)
Aldo101t said:
ok, have you unlocked yet??
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No. As stated in the OP, I was trying to get the answer to this question. Now I'm wishing I'd just kept my old GNex.
I sure hope I can get S-Off with the latest firmware....
gksmithlcw said:
No. As stated in the OP, I was trying to get the answer to this question. Now I'm wishing I'd just kept my old GNex.
I sure hope I can get S-Off with the latest firmware....
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just unlock and get s-off, you'll like it, read up on it in the forums, no big deal, have a good day.
I'm officially unlocked, rooted and s-offed. Now the question becomes GPe or CM 10.2....
So long story short I don't want HTC to have any info about what I'm doing with my phone because I've had a major issue with that in the past and I want to unlock it, root it and get s-off still. So with having a completely stock m8, sunshine is the way to go for me? Sorry if someone already posted something like this.
You can try Firewater first since it's free.
Am also sure you need to be rooted to s-off which means you need to unlock the bootloader using htcdev.
AmSick said:
You can try Firewater first since it's free.
Am also sure you need to be rooted to s-off which means you need to unlock the bootloader using htcdev.
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I'm aware of that but I'm asking if sunshine is the only way to unlock without htcdev at all. Period.
FunnySideUp said:
I'm aware of that but I'm asking if sunshine is the only way to unlock without htcdev at all. Period.
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One of the requirements to use sunshine is to be rooted
AmSick said:
One of the requirements to use sunshine is to be rooted
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Not anymore. Read the first paragraph of the OP:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=
Magnum_Enforcer said:
Not anymore. Read the first paragraph of the OP:
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Ahh okay I see now so it gains root access by it's self so it is currently the only way to s-off with htcdev.
I know of no other method.
AmSick said:
Ahh okay I see now so it gains root access by it's self so it is currently the only way to s-off with htcdev.
I know of no other method.
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Alright so this answers my question then. Kinda wish I didn't have to pay $25 but the freedom having my phone and doing anything with it w/o htc knowing is worth it
FunnySideUp said:
Alright so this answers my question then. Kinda wish I didn't have to pay $25 but the freedom having my phone and doing anything with it w/o htc knowing is worth it
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If Firewater had worked for me I would've been more than happy using HTC Dev with it. Just because you are requesting an unlock code from HTC does not prove that you actually used it so it's debatable whether using it or not has any real impact on their knowledge of your intended uses for your phone.
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If Firewater had worked for me I would've been more than happy using HTC Dev with it. Just because you are requesting an unlock code from HTC does not prove that you actually used it so it's debatable whether using it or not has any real impact on their knowledge of your intended uses for your phone.
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I personally had a horrible coincidence where my phone was not properly functioning from day 1 and I happened to have used htcdev so they had more than enough reason to blame me for the faulty components and charged me money to fix it since unlocking it voids the manufacturer warranty. So if you're fine with telling htc that you're unlocking your phone that's fine, I'm personally not going to do that again as long as I have an HTC device.
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I personally had a horrible coincidence where my phone was not properly functioning from day 1 and I happened to have used htcdev so they had more than enough reason to blame me for the faulty components and charged me money to fix it since unlocking it voids the manufacturer warranty. So if you're fine with telling htc that you're unlocking your phone that's fine, I'm personally not going to do that again as long as I have an HTC device.
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What state did you return the phone in? Was it still unlocked and rooted? S-Off? Did you attempt a faux-lock/s-on or anything like that?
To contrast some of the horror stories that people have regarding returning a HTC device for service, @Captain_Throwback has sent numerous devices to HTC and has never had an issue. His devices were rooted & S-off.
Hello
Just purchased an M7 and looking to unlock, root the phone etc. I always used the Hasoon toolkit on my old One X+ but I see the thread here has been locked and downloads are not available.
Is there a toolkit that is similar for ease of use that is currently in use for the M7?
I will start to research as I see things have moved on with HTC since the One X days when getting the bootloader unlocked, htcdev codes and such.
Is it pretty much the same routine as the One X where I need to email HTCdev for a code, then get the bootloader unlocked?
Thank you kindy,
maritimesbob said:
Hello
Just purchased an M7 and looking to unlock, root the phone etc. I always used the Hasoon toolkit on my old One X+ but I see the thread here has been locked and downloads are not available.
Is there a toolkit that is similar for ease of use that is currently in use for the M7?
I will start to research as I see things have moved on with HTC since the One X days when getting the bootloader unlocked, htcdev codes and such.
Is it pretty much the same routine as the One X where I need to email HTCdev for a code, then get the bootloader unlocked?
Thank you kindy,
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unlock bootloader from htcdev.com
flash twrp recovery 2.6.3.3
boot in recovery mode and exit, you'll be prompted to root the phone, select yes.
complete root with supersu installer now on your phone.
Thanks for that.
I remember it took days or even weeks to get the code from htcdev, is it still the same?
maritimesbob said:
Thanks for that.
I remember it took days or even weeks to get the code from htcdev, is it still the same?
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No, it is returned rather quickly.
Going to have a dumb moment, does unlocking the bootloader and rooting the phone also unlock the sim?
maritimesbob said:
Going to have a dumb moment, does unlocking the bootloader and rooting the phone also unlock the sim?
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No, they are separate procedures and to my knowledge unlocking the sim has no effect on the bootloader and vice versa.
maritimesbob said:
Thanks for that.
I remember it took days or even weeks to get the code from htcdev, is it still the same?
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they send you the code almost instantly.
Thanks everyone, I'll get a sim unlock code from ebay then go ahead and unlock/root the phone over the weekend. Looking forward to coming back to htc!!
I'm not really clever enough using fastboot commands, are the one click toolkits pretty reliable for unlocking and flashing recovery/root?
maritimesbob said:
I'm not really clever enough using fastboot commands, are the one click toolkits pretty reliable for unlocking and flashing recovery/root?
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I don't use the tool kits using adb and fastboot is pretty easy and you will have more control on what you are trying to accomplish. I would suggest the Minimal ADB & Fastboot Tool for installing the programs. There is a link to guides in the OP and most OPs for custom rom/recovery and root will explain which commands to use.
Hi guys
Can i get root access without unlocking bootloader?
Thanks
cobrax2 said:
Hi guys
Can i get root access without unlocking bootloader?
Thanks
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No. The only way to root ATM is to unlock your bootloader
is someone working on an solution to unlock without HTCDev?
thats too bad
thanks for the reply
i dont think there are many developers, if any for this phone
HandyBesitzer said:
is someone working on an solution to unlock without HTCDev?
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Why cant you root with HTCDev?
im not sure that the warranty will still be okay if we unlock it
plus the phone is from orange and it might not work
cobrax2 said:
im not sure that the warranty will still be okay if we unlock it
plus the phone is from orange and it might not work
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you will loose guarantee either way as the bootloader will show as tempered. More chance to keep it valid if you use the tools HTC provided.
Orange should work just fine. Just try...
On another note i sent 2 phones for repair to HTC "unlocked" and they never charge me for the repair.
yes, i was thinking of only gettin root and not unlocking bootloader
kativiti said:
you will loose guarantee either way as the bootloader will show as tempered. More chance to keep it valid if you use the tools HTC provided.
Orange should work just fine. Just try...
On another note i sent 2 phones for repair to HTC "unlocked" and they never charge me for the repair.
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You can undo the root and unlocked bootloader, before you send it to HTC. If you cannot undo because you have too big problems with the phone (frozzen phone,...) they cannot controll it either.
cobrax2 said:
yes, i was thinking of only gettin root and not unlocking bootloader
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not possible as far as i know.
I just need root permissions for some apps. But there is no way to get root with looked bootloader
HandyBesitzer said:
You can undo the root and unlocked bootloader, before you send it to HTC.
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yes you can undo and get back to full stock but hboot will show "Relocked" so they will know you mess with it.
Hello,
So I made a thread earlier about my Verizon HTC One M7 on 5.0.2 asking if I was able to root it.
Y'all basically said I need to use Sunshine S-Off to unlock my bootloader so I can root. So I downloaded the Sunshine-latest.apk file and it says I need to "Pre-root" before I can use it. I'm confused. The app that's going to root my phone needs root to work? That doesn't make sense. I now understand that S-off is needed for roms, but I don't want roms. I just want root apps. I'm still confused on why S-off is necessary for root, and apparently root is needed for Sunshine S-off.
Anyways, does anyone know how I can pre-root (Temp root?) my phone so I can use Sunshine? And what do I do after I get S-off to root my phone? Is there anyway I can root without S-off? I just want root access no roms.
Thanks for all those willing to help. Sorry I sound like such a noob (I am)
Austinh1517 said:
Hello,
So I made a thread earlier about my Verizon HTC One M7 on 5.0.2 asking if I was able to root it.
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Yes I remember but don't understand why you created a new thread again for the same issue... Your previous thread is only 3 days old.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one/help/to-root-htc-one-m7-t3127604
Y'all basically said I need to use Sunshine S-Off to unlock my bootloader so I can root.
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Right because Verizon asked HTC to block their phones from being unlocked the normal way using htcdev.com website so they can have more control over their customers. With S-OFF you or sunshine can directly write to the PG1FS partition to unlock the bootloader without the need to use the unlock code generated by htcdev.com
So I downloaded the Sunshine-latest.apk file and it says I need to "Pre-root" before I can use it. I'm confused. The app that's going to root my phone needs root to work?
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Sunshine need at least temp root to work. Achieve temp root, use sunshine to s-off and unlock, flash a custom recovery and then using your recovery you can root for good (permanent root).
I now understand that S-off is needed for roms, but I don't want roms.
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Not really but that doesn't matter for now, you can read about what s-off really do later if you are interested. Flashing roms doesn't require s-off, its only requires and unlocked bootloader but yes since your phone is Verizon you need s-off if you want to flash a rom because its the only way to unlock the bootloader. On other variant of the M7, you can unlock the bootloader from htcdev.com so s-off is not needed to flash roms. I know its confusing...
I just want root apps. I'm still confused on why S-off is necessary for root
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Because you need at least an unlocked bootloader to permanently root your phone, bootloader unlock is blocked by Verizon so S-OFF will unlock the bootloader
and apparently root is needed for Sunshine S-off.
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temp root, not perm root.
Anyways, does anyone know how I can pre-root (Temp root?) my phone so I can use Sunshine?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61174630&postcount=4
Read this post again (second sentence)
And what do I do after I get S-off to root my phone?
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Flash a custom recovery (TWRP) for Verizon HTC One and use it to perm root your phone.
Is there anyway I can root without S-off?
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Afaik, no, not on the new firmware.
alray said:
Yes I remember but don't understand why you created a new thread again for the same issue... Your previous thread is only 3 days old.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one/help/to-root-htc-one-m7-t3127604
Right because Verizon asked HTC to block their phones from being unlocked the normal way using htcdev.com website so they can have more control over their customers. With S-OFF you or sunshine can directly write to the PG1FS partition to unlock the bootloader without the need to use the unlock code generated by htcdev.com
Sunshine need at least temp root to work. Achieve temp root, use sunshine to s-off and unlock, flash a custom recovery and then using your recovery you can root for good (permanent root).
Not really but that doesn't matter for now, you can read about what s-off really do later if you are interested. Flashing roms doesn't require s-off, its only requires and unlocked bootloader but yes since your phone is Verizon you need s-off if you want to flash a rom because its the only way to unlock the bootloader. On other variant of the M7, you can unlock the bootloader from htcdev.com so s-off is not needed to flash roms. I know its confusing...
Because you need at least an unlocked bootloader to permanently root your phone, bootloader unlock is blocked by Verizon so S-OFF will unlock the bootloader
temp root, not perm root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61174630&postcount=4
Read this post again (second sentence)
Flash a custom recovery (TWRP) for Verizon HTC One and use it to perm root your phone.
Afaik, no, not on the new firmware.
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Thanks dude.. You've helped so much. Sorry I created another thread I'm new to forums and rooting.
Austinh1517 said:
Thanks dude.. You've helped so much. Sorry I created another thread I'm new to forums and rooting.
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So are you rooted now?
alray said:
So are you rooted now?
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Not yet because I have to buy the license for Sunshine but I now have step by step instructions on how to when I do buy it