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Hi all,
I've been working on getting my XT862 to give me more life on the battery. I've rooted and debloated using psousa's stuff, but I'm still not where I'd like to be. I've noticed a few interesting things:
AOS is showing as the top user in the battery monitor. Currently it's at 32% with my display and WiFi bringing up the rear.
Even though I've run the debloat script as root and confirmed the rename of skype.bourbon and motoprint, these things still start up. How is this possible?
BetterBatteryStats shows that the suspend process is my main battery user. How does one fix that?
Any advice on what to look for?
best route is to install a custom ROM and try different ones out for battery life. I would suggest Maverick ROM also make sure you wipe battery stats after installing a new ROM and fully cycle your battery.
hematose said:
Hi all,
I've been working on getting my XT862 to give me more life on the battery. I've rooted and debloated using psousa's stuff, but I'm still not where I'd like to be. I've noticed a few interesting things:
AOS is showing as the top user in the battery monitor. Currently it's at 32% with my display and WiFi bringing up the rear.
Even though I've run the debloat script as root and confirmed the rename of skype.bourbon and motoprint, these things still start up. How is this possible?
BetterBatteryStats shows that the suspend process is my main battery user. How does one fix that?
Any advice on what to look for?
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I'm guessing suspend is another way of saying System Idle.. if you wanted to get rid of that, make a nandroid backup of your system (via bootstrap or safestrap) and experiment what system apps/services you can freeze (via Titanium Backup) without getting force closes on the stuff that you use. I have about 30-60 system apps/services frozen depending on the ROM that I run. I have no force close issues, and my system idle uses about 1 percent of the battery per hour.
Additionaly, if you are using the CDMA network, force CDMA mode, likewise from GSM/UMTS, if you are using it, force it, do not use Global, as it will have both radios running and searching for service.
Disable the use of wifi when you aren't using it (there is an option to auto turn it off when the screen turns off, however this may cause worse battery life if you are using data as it will try use your mobile network, requiring more power), if you wish to leave it on, increase the scan time interval (i made mine 10 mins, up from the stock 45 seconds)
Auto brightness (it isn't really that bad...)
And get the app called juice defender. Once you set it up it controls all of your wireless stuff. Like turning wifi and 3g off when you turn your screen off, etc.
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hematose said:
[*]AOS is showing as the top user in the battery monitor. Currently it's at 32% with my display and WiFi bringing up the rear.
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If you use Wifi often, it is a good idea to check your Wifi Sleep Policy. To do this, navigate to:
Settings > Wireless & Networks > Wifi Settings > Advanced Settings (hit menu to access this) > Wifi Sleep Policy
I have mine set to 'Never'. By default, it was set to turn off the wifi when the screen went off, so any background apps that run and use data default back to the mobile connection. When you turn the phone back on, it turns the Wifi back on from sleep mode. By changing the sleep policy to 'never' you prevent this disconnect/reconnect to Wifi cycle.
This helped my battery life when connected to Wifi. Let me know if it works for you.
Thanks to all
Thank you for your replies everyone. I'll have to get TB and start freezing stuff. What confuses me though is how a service like Verizon Apps or Skype Mobile gets started even though it was renamed ".bak" by psousa's script. Also, I've noticed that when I run the restore bloat software, I don't get back all the apps in my app drawer. I'm not sure why that is.
Is it possible something got screwed up if I ran the debloat script twice? I see that it does a bunch of mv proggie.apk proggie.apk.bak type work. If the first file wasn't found, is it possible that it overwrote the .bak with gibberish?
My WiFi sleep policy is never because I have WiFi all day and I like Google Talk a lot. I'd be happy if I could get WiFi/Display as my top users, just AOS seems like a bug.
I'm on UTMS so it's forced to that all the time.
Maybe the answer is to try the mods. Or maybe SBF to the stock and try again?
Well, hi guys, I have been a member on this forum for quite some time but due to bad memory I forgot my account so I made a new account, that's not my point of this topic.
I bought a new Galaxy Note and I simply love it, awesome phone, but I noticed something wrong. Yes! the battery...
My battery simply dies in 2 hours of usage (videos or listening to music while playing Wordfued)
I want a solution for that, I have my warrantry and all, shall I demand a new battery or something? I'm Swedish by the way.
And I'm sure you'll ask me about flashing a rom and root it.
I know that would make the phone faster, but I'd rather wait for the official ISC.
Only if I can do both of the things at the same time, if so then I will flash, please do read everything so you can watch from my prespective, thanks in advance.
That's definitely not normal. I get much, much more usage doing the same, so I would definitely try changing battery first and then changing the phone as a second option.
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Zamboney said:
That's definitely not normal. I get much, much more usage doing the same, so I would definitely try changing battery first and then changing the phone as a second option.
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Fully agree.
I would get 4 to 5 hours of continuous use, I reckon. Some people report more.
I think the problem is with the battery. you can try this :http://www.amazon.com/2600mAh-Batte...I84K/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1329085625&sr=8-4 . Just bought it and it give me like 6-7 hours of watching videos.
Thank you for the link. I was looking for a better battery. I home to find a vendor that ships to France though.
Thank you
thegreatwall88 said:
I think the problem is with the battery. you can try this :just bought it and it give me like 6-7 hours of watching videos.
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Thank you my dear sir, I'll take that as the second option, I'll try getting a new battery since my warranty is vailed for 2 years.
Thank you though
No need for an extra battery or extended battery.
Install juice defender
Leave brightness on auto
disable 3g (it is on by default I believe and I noticed a big savings on batt %)
disable auto screen rotate(optional)
my phone is @ 44% left , lasted 11 hours 2 minutes , This will last me another 5-6 hours.
Did about 1 hour of gaming (myth defense)
30 min browsing on wifi
45 min on tapatalk
1.5 hours on the phone
1.5 hours streaming music to my desktop via kies air
I had posted something like this before...
1. Flash and test different kernels in case of battery drain. Some are easier on your battery than the others.
2. Use Titanium Backup to freeze or uninstall crapware. This list is a useful guide as to what can/can't be removed from your system: https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html
3. Set Brightness to low value, disable autobrightness
4. Disable or scale down vibration and haptic feedback
5. Automatic syncing of your accounts is battery consuming. Sync manually if you can
6. Set screen timeout to 15 seconds
7. Disable fast dormancy (dial *#9900# and do it from there)
8. Don't keep your WiFi/Packet Data on all the time. However, if you must have WiFi on the second you wake up your phone, go to Settings/Wireless and Network/Wi-Fi settings - once in Wi-Fi Settings, hit the menu button (the bottom left one), choose Advanced/Wi-Fi sleep policy/When Screen Turned Off. This way your connection will toggle on/off depending on your screen on/of state
9. Disable location services via wireless networks - are you travelling that fast that you need those?
10. GPS is heavy on the battery, therefore use it sparingly
And don't use Juice or any other battery 'defenders': they keep running in the background and consume your juice by trying to save it. Not to mention other problems they can (and often do) create.
Hope this helps.
chasmodo said:
And don't use Juice or any other battery 'defenders': they keep running in the background and consume your juice by trying to save it. Not to mention other problems they can (and often do) create.
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I have found this too, although YMMV.
I use Llama (Location Aware Mobile App) to turn things of and on when I move about. I seems to work very well mostly:
1. Got rid of useless apps, and kill all listeners on new apps so they do not pop up (require root)
2. When at home or work, WiFi is on but sleeping when screen is off (this is the one that fails most often - need to monitor), data is off (to prevent use when WiFi is sleeping).
3. When out and about, data is on, sync is off (to save mobile data & battery).
Like this I can get very flat battery level graphs when the phone is asleep, which is what I want.
When the phone is awake, the only thing you can do is turn the screen auto orientation off (I use Llama to turn it on for certain apps), and keep the brightness down, and use dark themes for everything, really. Turn WiFi off when not using it would also help.
I just wish they had made the battery larger & thinner (as someone else said) so that a thicker battery could have been more effective still, like triple the capacity
Try disabling GPS, wifi and data connections when not in use to save battery. Also you could flash the latest abyssnote kernel. It has absolutely amazing battery life.
Hello.
Just bought my Razr i (4.1.2 stock) and need some info or help please.
I´m "dont talk to me" user, so my phone can happen to be untouched for whole week until somebody calls or messages me. That way I´d like to max out idle battery life.
I think that those questions are more on Android than on phone, but still... Anyway:
I clear my apps in "task manager" everytime, I use GPS/WIFI/DATA only at a time I use the phone and its apps directly, and I have set smart action which disables GPS,Wifi and (background) data once I turn the display off. I have 4% of battery down after night (9h idle) with flight mode, and 70% idle / 30% screen + android in battery status.
Is it enaugh to max out its sleep potential to prolong battery life at idle state, or is there anything else to do?
If it is not naughty, I´d also like to disable some more apps and processes to make it "light walking" machine, but don´t know what is the purpose of those (MotoCare, QuickView, but processes with android icoon are more difficult to recognize and possibly disable).
Can anybody help please?
Thx for possible answers
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Hello.
If it is not naughty, I´d also like to disable some more apps and processes to make it "light walking" machine, but don´t know what is the purpose of those (MotoCare, QuickView, but processes with android icoon are more difficult to recognize and possibly disable).
Can anybody help please?
Thx for possible answers
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To completely disable motocare you need root access. However, you can kill it for a couple of days if you clear its data. Vehicle mode usually runs in the background so you might wanna disabe it. Youtube and facebook ALWAYS run in the background, regardless of whether you're even online. I suggest you remove facebook as well if you have it as the newest version takes up almost 40 mb of RAM. You could use the web version which is just the same.
Thank you. Helped a lot!.
Also changed smart actions for Battery Saver at a time when I turn the display off....
Well, waiting after "new stuff at home" goes away, there is chance to get over 10 days of idle. That´s my boy
Hi, I got a new Sony Xperia T yesterday, and it's on 4.1.2 (it's bootloader unlocked which really sucks because I was looking forward to getting some custom ROMs). I installed JuiceDefender as Stamina Mode isn't (yet, hopefully it does come soon) available on the Xperia T, but I seem to be getting the Stamina Mode icon in my status bar. Does anyone know why this is happening? Any help is greatly appreciated.
1) If your bootloader is unlocked you CAN install custom kernels
2) Juice defender is not needed on JB roms (IMHO)
3) That is not the stamina mode icon, it is extended standby mode. Look for the setting in power management in settings.
Thanks for the reply:
Sorry, I meant it is bootloader locked, not unlocked, haha
Do you think you could elaborate on this and explain why? I found that the battery drained really quickly so I thought the best thing to do would be to get JuiceDefender, but I am certainly open to suggestions.
Thanks, I read elsewhere that it was the stamina mode icon so that's what got me confused!
The ROM handles that stuff better. I have not used JD since I got onto ICS. In the end it becomes more of a battery hog than it can save.
With stock apps like smart connect and location based wifi you can set up profiles that do what JD does.
If you have the phone new then it will take a week or so for the battery to settle down, so do expect big battery drain for a week, then it will settle down.
Thanks for the informative comments, I've read so many mixed reviews of JuiceDefender but I have uninstalled it and instead installed AutomateIt, and created triggers so that when I turn the screen off, it turns WiFi & mobile data off. Do you think this is a good choice? Once again, thanks for your help!
No, Leave the phone to do it itself
Extended stanby mode turns off data when the screen is off.
I suggest that everybody goes at least a month without trying any of these apps, you will see that (IMHO) they don't make any difference and can, in fact, make things worse by clashing with what the hone itself wants to do.
Ah okay, I shall try just using Sony's standby mode, and I'll uninstall AutomateIt. Hopefully this helps my battery (and hopefully stamina mode comes to the Xperia T soon too!). Thank you for all of your help.
I left my phone off for about an hour with extended standby mode enabled, but when I returned to use it, the 'History details' page showed that the WiFi was still on the whole time the screen was off:
Any help is greatly appreciated.
reshonda said:
I left my phone off for about an hour with extended standby mode enabled, but when I returned to use it, the 'History details' page showed that the WiFi was still on the whole time the screen was off:
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Mine does exactly the same, not sure why and when it does this it doesn't really seem to save any battery at all is this normal behavior from the phone?
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Hey Guys -
I've had my AT&T HTC One for 4-5 months now and really like it. By far, the biggest issue is the battery life I get (or don't get.) I run many things on my phone - especially wit Tasker, but based off the stats I've seen the issue is coming from somewhere else. Below is some data from my phone. Please help me determine how to resolve this.
Overview
- AT&T HTC One
- ViperOne 6.2.1 (latest)
- Nova Dashboard
- 25gb of 32gb used /
Average Usage
- 4-5 Calls / day - ~15 texts
- Wi-fi stays on / Bluetooth on only when in car (controlled by tasker)
- Stream bluetooth audio (from local file on phone) when in car but also plugged in & getting 2.4 amps during this time
- ~15 Tasker profiles (2 are location based and use High accuracy)
Misc Notes
- Google Services is usually the top one by a good amount followed by Tasker. The problem is that I can't drill down in Google Services to see which service it is.
- I have the screen set to timeout after 10 seconds. Sometimes this doesn't work, though. Ideas for how to fix?
- I noticed today that in the Power menu, "Cell Usage" (Battery used by cell radio) was at 18%. Time on was 4h 43m and time without signal was 59%! Just started a new job and saw that I get hardly any signal when holding phone so believe it. Have any ideas about this besides turning it off when at work? I still need to be able to receive calls.
If there are any logs or whatever else you know that I may pull, I'll be happy to do so. I'm open to any suggestions you have. Thanks!
I get about the same life in my battery. I would set a profile to drop it to 2g while at work. This may help
bzowk said:
- ViperOne 6.2.1 (latest)
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i guess full of tweaks enabled and full apps running and enabled - than its normal hat the battery runs out after a half day.
Try Juice defender maybe
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.latedroid.juicedefender
Edit: in some cases it works to preserve battery by reconfiguring radio signals.
Also greenify is a must to hibernate those pesky apps that don't want to stop running. That can give improvement to your battery life too.
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Time without signal is killing the battery due to radio scanning for network. If there's no signal you're not going to receive calls, so put it in airplane mode.
Next is Tasker and location based profiles, that's what's causing the Google Play Services drain due to high power GPS location. Also, Tasker is keeping the device awake.
Ditch Tasker, leave WiFi on all the time (it uses almost no power when disconnected) and use it at work instead of mobile data, get Lean Data instead for controlling data, and switch to airplane mode if there's no signal.
Thanks Guys!