Hello Guys
i am right now in a difficult situation. i have no preferences related to phone/tab. The samsung tab fullfiled all my requirements related to communication but the ipad just have more gadgets for the pad - like dj table, beamer, speaker, drives and much more. If you check a local Apple store they have a lot of things there and the industry keep developing new gadet for ipad. But i can not find anything for android expect for cases and charger.
soon it will come the galaxy tab 10N and the HTC with dual core and some other feature.
does anybody know more about gadgets for android ?
does not need to be for samsung only.
how you guys see it ?
i am right now in conflict with have a proper communication place and no gadgets (android) or have a limited communication center but a lot of gadgets (ipad).
what would you decide ?
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i guess there is no gadgets for androids ?
this section is specific to Galaxy Tab 7" accessories.
If your question is more generic than that, maybe it will get more response in other section? I don't know where though
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i guess there is no gadgets for androids ?
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If u r looking for gadgets for Galaxy Tab 7", then the answer will be a sad NO.
Sammy has been throwing a new Galaxy Tab model almost once in every 2 months but they r not bothered to release such gadgets u r seeking.Third party people r also not interested in making them since it do not pay them well.
Reason why Apple has so many gadgets is that they use the same dock connector for all their products and its standard. I guess Apps can also utilize the data paths so it can communicate with accessories.
Android could benefit from such a universal connector (ex microUSB) but require specific instructions for hardware connections with the pins, etc.
Various shapes, sizes, pin locations, etc all make creating accessories for devices very difficult. Hell the Galaxy Nexus still doesn't have a very good selection of accessories.
The best thing I could come up with was the HDMI dock and the component cables for video out. I think there is also a SD card reader attachment also, similar to the Apple Camera kit for their iDevices.
hello,
I was wondering if galaxy s has the best android community support for phones ever? because it has 1822 threads with over 600k posts on android development section. And I couldn't find any other phone which would come even close to these numbers. And that's sad on the other hand, because if I would like to buy other phone I would choose one with huge community support, because it means a lot, it makes phone not obsolete and abbandoned. So what other phones (1-2 year old) has that kind of support ?
Merci Well, you not only have to factor in the sales numbers of the phones (Galaxy S certainly didn't lack it, as I recall that it sold 10 million+), you also have to factor in how the manufacturer treats their devices with regards to updates as well as the nature of the device.
For instance, the Galaxy S2, S3 and S4 (i9100,9300,9500) are great sellers, but they all (basically anything with exynos) would be horrible choices because of closed sources with regards to the SoC.
The S1 was a unique case as it is almost an exact copy of the Nexus S Google phone, so there was proper development.
For the highest quality development, look no further than the nexus Series (Galaxy Nexus, nexus 4) which are the easiest for developers to develop with, but they only form a small part of the market niche, so there might not be the sheer volume of development.
Other worthy mentions include the HTC one and Galaxy S4 (i9505) which have Google play editions and are good candidates because of their popularity, especially the S4.
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Interesting. I keep that in mind buying another phone, however I love my S1, so it won't be soon
I haven't read this anywhere, it's just my own personal view based on Samsungs previous behaviour.
While the Tab S seems to be a great piece of kit it looks to me like sales haven't been great (tracking numerous used sales sites they do not sell particularly quickly, I've even seen units listed for 3+ weeks - and I know the unit is still available because I've e-mailed the sellers).
Given Samsung abandoned the PRO series pretty quickly for poor sales how many people think Samsung may use the opportunity of the launch of Android L (speculated for this month) to abandon the S series and launch a new 'latest greatest' version to replace it?
The fact that so many markets don't have 'official' 32GB units shows the amount of product in the channel that hasn't sold through yet.
Thoughts?
I think they made a mistake limiting 32gb sales to BestBuy. They could have sold a lot more than they have if it wasn't.
But, I see us getting an update to "L". That might be it though.
There's actualy a new version called Tab S Slate with updated cpu and lte-a
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There's actualy a new version called Tab S Slate with updated cpu and lte-a
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http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_s_slate_with_ltea_tipped_to_launch_in_korea-news-9828.php
Ouch.......
All your Tab S they belong to me!!!!
Actually, Korea has better version of S5 cell phone too, but it does not mean that general S5 won't get an update. Same is here I think. Samsung has strange policy with tablets - they make it with older hardware than current smartphones have! But anyway, even Galaxy Note 8, that had old hardware for it's time, got 4.4 and Tab S will get L I think. About 32 GB. I have not seen any of Samsung 32GB models here in Russia for most of the devices. It's always was just 16 GB
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I have not seen any of Samsung 32GB models here in Russia for most of the devices. It's always was just 16 GB
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Same here in Germany, it is mostly the base configuration that is available. The higher memory variants either never show off, a year latter at some random online retailers or are at the most a one provider exclusive thing released three months later.
OK i cant take it LOL i bought the Pro 10.1 then 4 months later the S 10.5 and with days picked the S over the 10.1 for so many reasons not even including the screen.
just kidding though as i am not one to yell about why there are new ones and regret my purchases. i actually enjoy the new stuff and expect it. when the new stuff offers enough for me to upgrade i move.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_s_slate_with_ltea_tipped_to_launch_in_korea-news-9828.php
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All your Tab S they belong to me!!!!
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This is an interesting article on the version of the Exynos Chipset rumoured to be in the Tab S Slate......it supports 64 Bit
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/samsung-note-exynos-snapdragon-armv8,27688.html
Now that WOULD be a killer upgrade.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_s_slate_with_ltea_tipped_to_launch_in_korea-news-9828.php
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All your Tab S they belong to me!!!!
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I hope that the pricing difference is not that much
pinsb said:
I haven't read this anywhere, it's just my own personal view based on Samsungs previous behaviour.
While the Tab S seems to be a great piece of kit it looks to me like sales haven't been great (tracking numerous used sales sites they do not sell particularly quickly, I've even seen units listed for 3+ weeks - and I know the unit is still available because I've e-mailed the sellers).
Given Samsung abandoned the PRO series pretty quickly for poor sales how many people think Samsung may use the opportunity of the launch of Android L (speculated for this month) to abandon the S series and launch a new 'latest greatest' version to replace it?
The fact that so many markets don't have 'official' 32GB units shows the amount of product in the channel that hasn't sold through yet.
Thoughts?
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Sorry. I find this mildly absurd. In recent years, Samsung has a good track record of updating all of their flagship products, even if it does take a while. If this were a midrange or budget product, I'd totally agree with you. Samsung doesn't update it's budget products. In this case, though, I think you're way off base. If the Galaxy Note 8.0 and original 2012 Galaxy Note 10.1 (both crap sellers) got KitKat, the Tab S line will get L. This isn't even a question in my mind.
I never said the Tab S wouldn't get Android L, I said that they would abandon it and launch a new replacement........Samsung did this with the P6800 a few years back, did one subsequent software update then nothing.
Also this will likely force Samsung to have to start to rationalise some of their product offerings and instead concentrate their resources on a smaller range IMHO.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29516806
This is their flagship product in the tablet line. Not even remotely going to happen. Worse. Thread. Ever.
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Here is why it will get L. Samsung typically supports new products with occasional updates for 18 to 24 months, and L is just around the corner, and M is coming not so long after. My S2 came with Gingerbread, and Samsung gave it ICS and JB (I took it to KK 4.4.4). I have no doubt, L will be backward-compatible with non-64 bit hardware. The overall installed base for Android and the number of recent Samsung devices out there is too prodigious. Whether our Tab Ss get official M and beyond its the question.
You could go crazy the way Samsung dribbles products into the market. They have too many products overlapping when less, done with latest specs, would do just fine. All this crazy overdevelopment is one reason they have financial problems. It causes consumer confusion, market chaos, and makes updates a crapshoot. So what are you going to do? Keep holding your breath for Samsung to wake up, rationally anticipate the future, and deliver what you think is the perfect device for you? You'll lose your mind. In the end, when I was ready to buy a tablet, I was just ready. My eyes were open about the situation, so I rolled the dice and bought as best I could - in this case, Samsung - knowing my top of the line tablet was already about to be an antique. And you know what? When the day comes that I need to upgrade to 64 bit, with all that entails (e.g. 4gb RAM and apps that actually require it - and that is not going to be so soon), I'll put this tablet on eBay and bite the bullet again, knowing the next one I buy will already be late to the game the day it is released. But for now, I've put my hysteria aside and accept that my tablet is just fine, as is my highly customized S2 which, I'm sure, will be running L when that gets in the hands of capable outside developers, and probably M, too, if I hang on to it that long [emoji6].
For all its monstrous flaws, this is the one thing Apple's (and a few others') business model gets partly right. Less devices, less overlap, and unified updates can be as good as more. Don't get me wrong. Releasing 1 or 2 devices a year with a long patch between tech improvements (often just catch up) isn't particularly gratifying unless you are a typical brainwashed Apple fanzombie.
If you do some research tablet sales are cooling; even Apple's. Unlike smartphones, the replacement cycle is slower for tablets with current owners keeping them much longer. Phablets are denting tablet sales; especially in emerging markets where people can't afford two devices.
Apple and Samsung both lost market share in Q2; Apple more so. Apple was down in volume while Samsung gained. Price is obviously impacting sales with low cost tablet vendors growing in volume and market share.
We on XDA have a skewed view of the world. The masses are far less concerned about the speed of their CPU/GPU if they even know or care what they are. Same thing with Android L. If the latest and greatest Android version were that important to the masses Samsung wouldn't be selling the volume of devices they do and GPe and Nexus devices would be more popular.
Samsung most likely reused the high-end architecture from earlier tablets on the S' to save money and get them to market faster. Bearing the cost of redesigning them for 5433/S-805 isn't going to affect their sales or their perception by the masses. If Android L is so important getting the existing S' on it quickly makes more sense than launching a new tablet. But I don't think the masses care. If they did HTC wouldn't still be hemorrhaging sales after positioning themselves as the "fastest" OEM at updates. The S' claim to fame are their exclusive AMOLED displays. That's what you'll see advertised over the holidays.
Samsung's working on 10" 4K tablets displays that'll need 5433/S-805. That's most likely going to be the "next big thing." And the Note tablets need a refresh so logically they're next up to bat and they have a loyal following and drive higher margins.. As for a faster LTE-A tablet, I'd be surprised if even 30% of the tablets Samsung sells have cellular modems. And if high-end tablet sales are price depressed making them even more expensive seems illogical.
Trying to guess Samsung's next move is a fools game. If they make something you like buy it and be happy. The launch of the S' didn't change the features and usability of the Pro's one bit.
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Samsung did this with the P6800 a few years back, did one subsequent software update then nothing.
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That's not really a valid comparison. The S', based on distribution and marketing spend alone, are clearly mass market products. The Tab 7.7 was a niche product, not unlike the Galaxy Round, Korean-only LTE-A devices, and probably the Note Edge. All Samsung's high-end tablets from less than a year ago to present share most of the same h/w and s/w components. The Tab 7.7 shared nothing with any other Samsung device and was priced higher than 10" high-end tablets when it was released. If it didn't get updated it was because there weren't enough in circulation for Samsung to be bothered. Any L update will serve the N10.1-14, Pro's, and S' equally so, while not impossible, it would be bizarre if all of them didn't get Android L.
From Engadget...
Really, our biggest caveat is that it's expensive, even compared to mid-range models like the $350 7.0 Plus. The 7.7 isn't a plaything for mainstream consumers, but people who care deeply about laying claim to the latest and greatest gadgets, and are willing to pay dearly for the privilege. As any early adopter would tell you, getting burned on price is just one trade-off to scoring bragging rights. Indeed, such enthusiasts might well decide that nearly $250 premium over mid-range tablets is worth the long battery life, brisk performance and brilliant display. So is that you? Do you need the best that badly? We'll let you do some soul-searching and chew on that*for a bit.
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That's not really a valid comparison. The S', based on distribution and marketing spend alone, are clearly mass market products. The Tab 7.7 was a niche product, not unlike the Galaxy Round, Korean-only LTE-A devices, and probably the Note Edge. All Samsung's high-end tablets from less than a year ago to present share most of the same h/w and s/w components. The Tab 7.7 shared nothing with any other Samsung device and was priced higher than 10" high-end tablets when it was released. If it didn't get updated it was because there weren't enough in circulation for Samsung to be bothered. Any L update will serve the N10.1-14, Pro's, and S' equally so, while not impossible, it would be bizarre if all of them didn't get Android L.
From Engadget...
Really, our biggest caveat is that it's expensive, even compared to mid-range models like the $350 7.0 Plus. The 7.7 isn't a plaything for mainstream consumers, but people who care deeply about laying claim to the latest and greatest gadgets, and are willing to pay dearly for the privilege. As any early adopter would tell you, getting burned on price is just one trade-off to scoring bragging rights. Indeed, such enthusiasts might well decide that nearly $250 premium over mid-range tablets is worth the long battery life, brisk performance and brilliant display. So is that you? Do you need the best that badly? We'll let you do some soul-searching and chew on that*for a bit.
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The only reason it became a "niche" market is because of the US law suit by Apple and having the product banned for copyright infringement. I believe Samsung won the case eventually, but cut their losses and moved on, effectively abandoning the device and customers.
The 7.7 shared many of the same hardware components with other mobile devices. Note and SGS2 ......
Circumstances appear different, so I'm sure we'll get the update, but who knows where we'll be on the pecking order. ......
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The only reason it became a "niche" market is because of the US law suit by Apple and having the product banned for copyright infringement.
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The easiest way to tell a niche product is by its selling price. The Tab 7.7 was priced stratospherically for its time. To a degree, the Gear's are a niche product too based on price. If Samsung wanted mass adoption they could have averaged their costs over 10M units (vs. 1M) and priced them at $159. They didn't. They sold them at $299 limiting their audience intentionally to drive high margins. They also could have made the Gear work with non-Samsung phones if all they wanted to do was drive volume. The market sets pricing, not vendors. And the pricing for the Tab 7.7 was way above what the market was acceptant of and that wasn't by accident. The Galaxy Round was a bent Note 3 without S Pen and cost 30% more. That too wasn't an accident. AMOLED technology wasn't wear it is today when the 7.7 came out. Setting the price where they did may have allowed Samsung to ensure they didn't run out of the limited amount of displays they could produce. That, and make embarrassingly high margins.
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The easiest way to tell a niche product is by its selling price. The Tab 7.7 was priced stratospherically for its time. To a degree, the Gear's are a niche product too based on price. If Samsung wanted mass adoption they could have averaged their costs over 10M units (vs. 1M) and priced them at $159. They didn't. They sold them at $299 limiting their audience intentionally to drive high margins. They also could have made the Gear work with non-Samsung phones if all they wanted to do was drive volume. The market sets pricing, not vendors. And the pricing for the Tab 7.7 was way above what the market was acceptant of and that wasn't by accident. The Galaxy Round was a bent Note 3 without S Pen and cost 30% more. That too wasn't an accident. AMOLED technology wasn't wear it is today when the 7.7 came out. Setting the price where they did may have allowed Samsung to ensure they didn't run out of the limited amount of displays they could produce. That, and make embarrassingly high margins.
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Not necessarily.
Crapple products are way overpriced, but I wouldn't call them a niche product.......... The 7.7 was a premium device, one that scared Crapple, but premium doesn't equal niche. It wasn't a gimmicky device or "prototype" (as some you quoted), it was a real competitor, so that's what scared them and held up the production and shipment delays in Europe and US with law suits. By the time it was all sorted, Samsung had washed their hands of it. During that time, support for updates was nearly non-existent and my WIFI version didn't progress beyond ICS. The 3G model did however get a regional update for Asia to JB. This clearly shows that Samsung do indeed have a history of not supporting their products with updates for a (legal?) 18 months. Who will make them comply.
As I said though, I believe this device is a different kettle of fish, so we will get support, but may not be in a expedient manner as hoped.
Purely coincidentally in the UK today on Samsungs own website....
http://store.samsung.com/uk/ng/mobile-tablets/tablets/c/SM02
TAB Pro and Note Pro products being sold at 40% off.
Addressing some of the comments above......
The P6800 (7.7) was originally launched directly against the Ipad at a time in the market when Ipad was really the only player in town. Apples lawsuits certainly did dent the product marketing and distribution, but also what had a huge effect, was within months there was a whole rash of 'low cost' Android tablets that moved the market space in terms of pricing. The 7.7 was perhaps even over engineered for it's time (metal case, AMOLED screen, dual networking etc....) and certainly would have had a BoM that wouldn't allow it to be sold at a price competing with the likes of the Nexus 7.....so Samsung had to launch the lower cost range of products that followed. I have no issue with this, what I did and still do have an issue with is the fact that Samsung did not continue to release software updates for a reasonable amount of time afterwards. Many of us spent $500+ for our 7.7s and in effect they became redundant within 18 months....not a good return on investment.
I see the same behaviour at the moment with the Tab and Note PRO range which in my mind is just reinforced by the price promotion on their website today, I'm concerned that we may see the same behaviour for the Tab S tomorrow as sales frankly have not been at the level the Samsung must have been hoping for.
As to this being the worst thread ever, then why contribute?
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TAB Pro and Note Pro products being sold at 40% off.
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Did anyone here not think the Pro's were toast when the S' came out? They're the same tablets and launched with the same selling prices. The big and only difference is that the S' truly have an industry exclusive killer feature - their AMOLED displays. The Pro's were discounted at similar levels in the U.S. weeks ago confirming what we all knew or suspected; there ain't room in this town for two high-end similar tablets. The only surprise from the UK is that both 12" devices are marked down so significantly which I translate in to disposing of inventory on the way to extinction. 12" tablets were a risk to begin with so I guess Samsung's calling it a day. If you notice, the N10.1-14's gone from the site completely except for third party purchase. It could mean new 8.4/10/12" Notes are on the way. The 8" has been missing for a year and the 12" without S Pen was kind of stupid. Once you get to a certain price point does $50-100 difference really mean anything? So I could see the 8.4/10/12" Notes and 8.4/10.5 S' being Samsung's rationalized product line. The 12" Note being the big wild card. And due to AMOLED's battery performance on whites I'd bet the Note's continue with LCD displays.
Back to the subject of this thread. It's pretty clear why the Pro's were toast when the S' came out. What's going to make the S' toast? Android L can run on ARMv7 SoCs with 512MB of RAM so, at least to me, introducing a major h/w change in conjunction with Android L doesn't make sense and "quad core" and "eight core" are still going to be on the box regardless of which Exynos or Snapdragon chip is under the hood. That said, it's equally unlikely the "S" will become the S 2 simply because newer SoC's are available. For the thesis of this thread to be true means the only reason the S' aren't selling as well as they could are because of their Android version and CPU/GPU. I don't think the masses care enough for that to be true. If something were to happen "S 2-wise" it would be happening now to get the merch on the shelves before the holidays and to beat/meet the arrival of the Teg K1 HTC/Nexus 8.9" tablet. There's been no S-like tablets that have shown up in benchmarks or been certified for Wi-Fi, BT, or cellular anywhere. Just the LTE-A S specific to Korea. There was a 100 page thread in the SGS5 forum about people worrying the Alpha was going to be a metal SGS5 with more power. Turned out to be 100 pages of wasted server space and fretting. Every time a Korean LTE-A device comes out the klaxon horns go off about it imminently replacing or rendering inferior an existing global device. Hasn't happened yet.
There probably will be a "S 2" but if I were to bet it would take more than a SoC swap and/or new Android version to make that happen. But I've been wrong before.
So conspiracy theorists do carry on. I'm out because this thread is turning argumentative and I'm not helping.
Hey guys,
So, as you already know, the end of 2015 is near and in just a couple of weeks we'll enter 2016, embracing the new devices, new technologies, new chips that will reside in your future phones and tablets, and perhaps will see interesting changes to the manufacturers from around the world as one makes a mistake, while others learn and improve from theirs
Seeing as how this year has been a really interesting one for pretty much every OEM out there, whether the device manufacturedc shipped with Android, iOS, Windows or other operating system, like when Motorola kinda disappointed us with updates for Moto E, LG pumped out great G4 and V10, and Samsung went backwards on the Galaxy S6.
Nevertheless, I think we can all agree that this year everybody found a device to pick up, no matter if its on the low-end pricing model like the Moto G or Xperia E4, or a solid mid-range like Nexus 5X and Motorola X Play, going into the premium-class range of top-devices like Xperia Z5, Galaxy S6, iPhone 6S, Nexus 6P, and many others
But I guess I'll get straight to the point:
What, in your opinion, were the Top-10 best mobile devices released througout 2015?
If you can't put them in a straight-up order - no fear, just list them here and we'll discuss it together
Aaaaaaand GO!
Hi, my name is Kayden. I live in the center of the USA. I am a Cellular Sales sales rep. Cellular Sales primarily sells Verizon Wireless plans and phones. I've been in the world of smartphones for as long as I can remember. The very first phone I rooted and had fun playing with was the Motorola Devour A555. As well as the Droid A855. Playing with custom ROMs, overclocking, unlocking, bootloaders and so forth was always fun and fascinating to me. Which leads me to my favorite phone I ever played with. The Samsung Galaxy Fascinate. I have many of these phones all modified and different from each other.
I will be starting a YouTube channel in the near future for all things tech, but primarily I will be buying old Android phones off of eBay and modyfying them for the fun of it. I will do evolution of certain phone series as well. Droid lineup, OnePlus, Nexus, Galaxy S, A, J, and Note, HTC One M, A, S, and V, LG G and V and so forth. I WILL be rooting, modifying, and pushing these phones to their hardware limits as much as possible. This will all be on the YouTube channel. I will also be reviewing new phones, PC hardware, game systems, televisions and so much more.
If you would like to get a headstart before any videos are posted, head over to KaydenMcCurdyTech on YouTube and subscribe. It will be nearly 3 months until the first video will be posted. My ducks need to be in a row first, as I've recently moved 1200 miles and have a lot going on. But thank you all and I look forward to seeing you on the channel.
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Hi, my name is Kayden. I live in the center of the USA. I am a Cellular Sales sales rep. Cellular Sales primarily sells Verizon Wireless plans and phones. I've been in the world of smartphones for as long as I can remember. The very first phone I rooted and had fun playing with was the Motorola Devour A555. As well as the Droid A855. Playing with custom ROMs, overclocking, unlocking, bootloaders and so forth was always fun and fascinating to me. Which leads me to my favorite phone I ever played with. The Samsung Galaxy Fascinate. I have many of these phones all modified and different from each other.
I will be starting a YouTube channel in the near future for all things tech, but primarily I will be buying old Android phones off of eBay and modyfying them for the fun of it. I will do evolution of certain phone series as well. Droid lineup, OnePlus, Nexus, Galaxy S, A, J, and Note, HTC One M, A, S, and V, LG G and V and so forth. I WILL be rooting, modifying, and pushing these phones to their hardware limits as much as possible. This will all be on the YouTube channel. I will also be reviewing new phones, PC hardware, game systems, televisions and so much more.
If you would like to get a headstart before any videos are posted, head over to KaydenMcCurdyTech on YouTube and subscribe. It will be nearly 3 months until the first video will be posted. My ducks need to be in a row first, as I've recently moved 1200 miles and have a lot going on. But thank you all and I look forward to seeing you on the channel.
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Totally agree, Android is fun!
Welcome aboard, glad to have an old timer around.
HTC bro!
orb3000 said:
Totally agree, Android is fun!
Welcome aboard, glad to have an old timer around.
HTC bro!
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Thank you for the warm welcome! I have been on XDA for years as a visitor for advice, and I should have created an account long ago as there were many I could've helped and given mg advice to years ago.
HTC is and will always be one of my favorite phone manufactures. Build quality always had me overlooking specs years ago. Although I don't daily drive an HTC, I use an old M7 I've had since new as my media device. I've been on a Samsung kick for my daily driver after buying the Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge. I own almost the entire Galaxy S lineup. My daily is the Galaxy S20 Ultra. Soon to be the S21 Ultra. The S20 is wonderful but there are some flaws they had that the S21 fixed, starting with the size of the fingerprint scanner and putting metal around the camera lens instead of glass.
Can't wait for my S21 so I can turn my S20 into a toy.