Hi guys, my n910t3 is on Tekxodus 5.1.1 with root and xposed. It always seems to close the background apps. In the task manager, my ram usage rarely ever goes to 2gb/2.72gb. I have my background processes set to the standard limit. I have tried apps like memory locker and ram manger(root), both of them not working :crying:. I tried to do the build.prop fix that the s6 and note 5 use, but I could not find the ro.config.dha file anywhere. I don't think that Tekxodus is the problem because I always had these problems, and thought that installing a custom rom would fix the problem. Any help would help
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Hi guys, my n910t3 is on Tekxodus 5.1.1 with root and xposed. It always seems to close the background apps. In the task manager, my ram usage rarely ever goes to 2gb/2.72gb. I have my background processes set to the standard limit. I have tried apps like memory locker and ram manger(root), both of them not working :crying:. I tried to do the build.prop fix that the s6 and note 5 use, but I could not find the ro.config.dha file anywhere. I don't think that Tekxodus is the problem because I always had these problems, and thought that installing a custom rom would fix the problem. Any help would help
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The build.prop edit you were talking about (ro.config.dha) has to be added as a new line to the build.prop and you can do that with any root editor. I use 3C Toolbox to add the lines and edit the existing ones.
But honestly, if the RAM management apps aren't able to change it I would try going back to stock software and seeing if the RAM issue still happens. If it does it there too you could have bad RAM blocks (more likely) or the T3 may have a totally different memory management routine that we don't know about (unlikely).
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Hi. I tried a few of ICS roms available for i9000 out there, and all of them are pretty fast, much better than I expected. The only issue I have with any ICS rom I've recently tried is that they close apps in background quite often. For example, I might open my Opera Mobile, switch to SMS app, send a message, and then when I return Opera has to start over and load all the pages again. Does it happen to You as well? As a comparison, I tested it with a 2.3.4 MIUI rom I had as a Nandroid backup, and it's much better - most apps stay open in background for a longer time.
Is it possible that ICS has that bigger of a memory footprint over Gingerbread? What are your opinions on that? Experienced similar issues? Any workarounds?
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Hi. I tried a few of ICS roms available for i9000 out there, and all of them are pretty fast, much better than I expected. The only issue I have with any ICS rom I've recently tried is that they close apps in background quite often. For example, I might open my Opera Mobile, switch to SMS app, send a message, and then when I return Opera has to start over and load all the pages again. Does it happen to You as well? As a comparison, I tested it with a 2.3.4 MIUI rom I had as a Nandroid backup, and it's much better - most apps stay open in background for a longer time.
Is it possible that ICS has that bigger of a memory footprint over Gingerbread? What are your opinions on that? Experienced similar issues? Any workarounds?
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Try using less widgets. Don't use apps like Facebook. Check push notification services of some apps.
Also, i seem to remember that Opera Mobile tends to "forget" loaded pages very quickly, if you don't come back to the app quite fast...
You can also try and check under settings > developer options > see if you have checked "don't keep activities" and under "background process limit" choose "standard limit"
Since I'm only getting advice, I take it I'm the only one having this problem? Strange. The only widget I have on my desktop is the stock ICS analog clock widget, and there is no such thing as "Developer options" in my Opera Mobile.
Right now I'm using AOKP rom b27, there is an option called "Free memory - Amount of RAM the minfree taskkiller will keep". I tried to change it to max possible - 100MB, didn't change anything.
Is you are using ICS roms, you never had such issues? Which roms do you use?
PS Could a different kernel make it better?
Opera uses alot of memory and the phones memory is very limited. Doesn't matter the ROM it will often get closed when you leave it to do other things.
BTW increasing the memory the OS keeps free makes it worse, how do you think it frees memory? By closing things. You actually want to decrease the memory it keeps free to try and help with this. The downside is that the phone will probably lag more and I have found it doesn't help much.
I'll try to use the stock browser. As to that task manager setting:
The description says:"Amount of RAM the taskkiller will keep", so I have no idea if it means keeping some RAM available at all times or is it the amount of RAM that can't be cleared.
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I'll try to use the stock browser. As to that task manager setting:
The description says:"Amount of RAM the taskkiller will keep", so I have no idea if it means keeping some RAM available at all times or is it the amount of RAM that can't be cleared.
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It is never the amount of RAM that can not be cleared it is the amount of RAM to keep free. ie if you set 64MB Ram to be kept free Taskkiller will keep that amount of memory free by killing the oldest non active task/process
The title is the real starting place of my issue. Out of the devices 2 GB, 1.5 GB is the average amount that is used and its really starting to impact the performance of the phone. The few things that I have tried never seem to be a more permanent solution. My Moto X is Rooted with a Sunshine Unlocked Bootloader.
Normally on my phone I have the following running in background:
tasker & Related plug ins
Xposed framework
Some widgets( Evernote, weather & Calendar)
Here is what I've tried so far:
Greenify, to help manage what apps are operating in the background.
Uninstalled a large number of my tasker plug ins
Reduced the number of Xposed plugins that I have running
Reduced the number of widgets that I have my launcher running
Here are my ideas that I have left but I don't know what it will fix.
Find an app launcher with lower RAM requirement that still meets my needs. Currently using an old version of GO Launcher I like.
Wipe the phone and start over with the stock AT&T 4.4.4 ROM.
Another possibly related issues is that I've been having apps crash often, like Touchless controls and Contacts, but when I try and send the bug report it has my own address listed instead of Motorolla's.
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The title is the real starting place of my issue. Out of the devices 2 GB, 1.5 GB is the average amount that is used and its really starting to impact the performance of the phone. The few things that I have tried never seem to be a more permanent solution. My Moto X is Rooted with a Sunshine Unlocked Bootloader.
Normally on my phone I have the following running in background:
tasker & Related plug ins
Xposed framework
Some widgets( Evernote, weather & Calendar)
Here is what I've tried so far:
Greenify, to help manage what apps are operating in the background.
Uninstalled a large number of my tasker plug ins
Reduced the number of Xposed plugins that I have running
Reduced the number of widgets that I have my launcher running
Here are my ideas that I have left but I don't know what it will fix.
Find an app launcher with lower RAM requirement that still meets my needs. Currently using an old version of GO Launcher I like.
Wipe the phone and start over with the stock AT&T 4.4.4 ROM.
Another possibly related issues is that I've been having apps crash often, like Touchless controls and Contacts, but when I try and send the bug report it has my own address listed instead of Motorolla's.
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have you tried flashing a stock firmware through RSD LITE? have you tried doing a hard reset? from stock recovery? your problem sounds like that a 3rd party app has screwed up your phone... And please dont use 3rd party launchers... They cause alot of problems.
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have you tried flashing a stock firmware through RSD LITE?
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I was hoping to use this as a last resort
whizinc said:
have you tried doing a hard reset?
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When you say hard reset do you mean a reboot? Factory Reset? I'm not 100% sure what your talking about.
whizinc said:
your problem sounds like that a 3rd party app has screwed up your phone... And please dont use 3rd party launchers... They cause alot of problems.
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If you asking to me stick with stock launcher I don't think I can do that. There are a lot of features the stock launcher is missing like Folders that sync to folders within the App Draw, just the way they display an open folder, the ways you can organize the app folder, how you hide apps you don't use, ie keyboards and the visuals associated with the uninstall process. But if you have suggestions on how to resolve some of the feature differences I'd be interested to hear.
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The title is the real starting place of my issue. Out of the devices 2 GB, 1.5 GB is the average amount that is used and its really starting to impact the performance of the phone. The few things that I have tried never seem to be a more permanent solution. My Moto X is Rooted with a Sunshine Unlocked Bootloader.
Normally on my phone I have the following running in background:
tasker & Related plug ins
Xposed framework
Some widgets( Evernote, weather & Calendar)
Here is what I've tried so far:
Greenify, to help manage what apps are operating in the background.
Uninstalled a large number of my tasker plug ins
Reduced the number of Xposed plugins that I have running
Reduced the number of widgets that I have my launcher running
Here are my ideas that I have left but I don't know what it will fix.
Find an app launcher with lower RAM requirement that still meets my needs. Currently using an old version of GO Launcher I like.
Wipe the phone and start over with the stock AT&T 4.4.4 ROM.
Another possibly related issues is that I've been having apps crash often, like Touchless controls and Contacts, but when I try and send the bug report it has my own address listed instead of Motorolla's.
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You should check the running apps in the settings also check the cached background processes.
You'll find the culprit there.
Post screenshot if possible.
It's probably Facebook or something like that
adity said:
You should check the running apps in the settings also check the cached background processes.
You'll find the culprit there.
Post screenshot if possible.
It's probably Facebook or something like that
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What would you say is a good threshold to use to consider if an app is a problem? Would you say more than 25MB? 50MB?
A screen shot isn't going to be possible until after 7 pm
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What would you say is a good threshold to use to consider if an app is a problem? Would you say more than 25MB? 50MB?
A screen shot isn't going to be possible until after 7 pm
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Apps like chrome consistently use 100mb..
Otherwise 50mb
Also post screenshots man
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I was hoping to use this as a last resort
When you say hard reset do you mean a reboot? Factory Reset? I'm not 100% sure what your talking about.
If you asking to me stick with stock launcher I don't think I can do that. There are a lot of features the stock launcher is missing like Folders that sync to folders within the App Draw, just the way they display an open folder, the ways you can organize the app folder, how you hide apps you don't use, ie keyboards and the visuals associated with the uninstall process. But if you have suggestions on how to resolve some of the feature differences I'd be interested to hear.
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Take that last hope..Rsd lite your stock firmware and all your problems will be vanished.. Im sure..
A hard reset is a reset which you do thorough the Bootloader of your phone without booting to actual android home screen... Like you open your Boot loader by pressing appropriate keys and select recovery and Erase Cache and Factory reset from there... Google Hard reset and learn about it. Its really important to learn about hard reset if you own an android device..
As far as your launcher is concerned i can understand... And i dont really think that the launcher might be causing the problem... You just need an RSD LITE flash to completely wipe your phone and bring it to the factory state and make it completely fresh... I bet rsd lite flash will fix your problem because it erases the whole device and reflashes everything like boot,modem,system,kernal etc... GO FOR RSD LITE FLASH... and please take extra precautions before Flashing through RSD LITE.. because its risky if you do it in the wrong way.... Make sure to find the exact firmware of your phone which matches the carrier.. and also check the bootloader version of the firmware.. DOWNGRADING THE FIRMWARE WILL BRICK YOUR DEVICE PERMANENTLY.. so always upgrade or flash the same firmware as you have now.. Take extra precautions.. Good luck..
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It is Linux based, free RAM is wasted RAM. The system will put stuff into memory as needed, and remove it as needed. The system tries to keep as much stuff in memory as possible to improve performance so it doesn't have to put it back into memory if you launch it again. It is how the Android memory killer works, and the kernel is what controls the free memory.
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It is Linux based, free RAM is wasted RAM.
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if this is true why do i have more performance issue when the ram is full? I have to wait for the phone to respond to the touches on the screen.
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if this is true why do i have more performance issue when the ram is full? I have to wait for the phone to respond to the touches on the screen.
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If that is the case, then your device is likely not freeing memory properly. Either an app is not closing properly, or you have a lot of background apps running that can't be freed from memory, or you have a rogue app killing your phone.
As he said, "free memory" will always be very low.
This is part of why people freaked out over vista... As modern kernels do, it was using most available ram for tasks that might happen because this memory can be cleared instantly. But vista actually reported this memory usage, and people freaked out, not being used to the concept. I believe they adjusted how memory was reported in 7...
Give this a read
http://serverfault.com/questions/85470/meaning-of-the-buffers-cache-line-in-the-output-of-free
If you have a terminal emulator the command "top" will show you memory usage by category so you can see not only how much is free, but how much COULD be free at a moments notice if needed. This is what you want to know.
"atop" is another version of top, it reports slightly different statistics and can be a little more readable...(it may be htop not atop, if one doesnt work try the other. They both exist but only one is prepackaged and... I forget.)
You should also be able to look at processes to see what is using up significant amounts of memory....
Hi Guys & Gals,
I recently installed the stagefright fix to Build LMY48I (Android 5.1.1, Baseband MDM9625_104446.01.02.101R, Kernel 3.10.40-geec2459. I did it using Nexus root toolkit v2.0.5. Now when I use battery saving apps such as Battery Doctor / Advanced Task Killer Pro / Greenify they all seem to say Excellent / no apps running good memory (despite the memory getting fuller etc). It is definitely rooted and I have reinstalled apps etc and can see them accessing Super SU. It seems to be indicating all ok. When I use clean master it frees up a lot of RAM which Advanced Task killer pro reports has occurred. Basically, battery doctor seems to be having no effect even when using super optimize (it doesn't seem to be killing anything). Am I missing something?
Regards,
Mick
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. . .When I use clean master it frees up a lot of RAM which Advanced Task killer pro reports has occurred. Basically, battery doctor seems to be having no effect even when using super optimize (it doesn't seem to be killing anything). Am I missing something?
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You are not missing something, you have to much memory management.
Lollipop has its own modern memory management and there is no need for optimizers/cleaners.
Just uninstall optimizers/cleaners.
For battery life you may use apps with a black background.
I've same probleme and i found this app.
Works with last ota update on nexus 5.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.infolife.taskmanager
All I would like to do is to keep apps maximum is possible in ram. My goal is for my daily use of most common apps like phone, whatsapp, google messenger, gmail, contacts, calendar etc. to keep them in ram so switching between them is smooth and fast without loading on anything. My memory is always more then 50% empty and little apps like calendar or contact are getting killed with no reason. That is really going on my nerves more and more.
I am on Pure Nexus CMTE rom and I have tried playing with Kernel Auditor low memory killer and virtual memory settings. What ever I do there my ram usage is always about 1 - 1.4 GB newer more then that. How I can force system to keep apps in ram until critical point? Like in my case with more then 50% of ram still available there should not be any apps removed from memory even if is app not active for some time. Can anyone please help me with this.
Possibly you see 1.5G free now, but it may have temporarily been a lot less free when the apps were killed (usage varies over time). See attached how high chrome can jump at its peak.
Just a thought..very half baked. I'm sure someone will give suggestions for what you want.
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Possibly you see 1.5G free now, but it may have temporarily been a lot less free when the apps were killed (usage varies over time). See attached how high chrome can jump at its peak.
Just a thought..very half baked. I'm sure someone will give suggestions for what you want.
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Yes, I know but Chrome memory usage is still nothing compare to free memory available. I did some reading and end up creating local.prop file in root/data and add some lines there. How much that will help I will find out in day or two. If anyone is interested to know what I did I can post it here after.
Just wanted to add that in Android N preview the low memory kill settings by default were very light (like lighter than kernel adiutor's "very light" preset) and it resulted in very stuttery performance. Setting them back to marshmallow stock settings made everything smoother. Looking forward to anything you may uncover on this though.
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Just wanted to add that in Android N preview the low memory kill settings by default were very light (like lighter than kernel adiutor's "very light" preset) and it resulted in very stuttery performance. Setting them back to marshmallow stock settings made everything smoother. Looking forward to anything you may uncover on this though.
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Okay this is what is confusing me the most. In Kernel Auditor "very light" preset means that apps will be removed soon is possible, very light means small amount of memory to be used. Am I correct? Aggressive on other hand will give more memory for apps, more apps in memory and less removing from it.
So if is that correct then is very understandable why "N" with less then "very light" preset made bad performance and soon you give it more memory to play everything is back to normal.
However I did test on that many times but in both cases my apps are getting removed from memory with more then 50% still available memory. That's why I need somehow to stop system from emptying memory until critical point. Maybe some build.prop lines can help but I am not really expert in that area.
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Okay this is what is confusing me the most. In Kernel Auditor "very light" preset means that apps will be removed soon is possible, very light means small amount of memory to be used. Am I correct? Aggressive on other hand will give more memory for apps, more apps in memory and less removing from it.
So if is that correct then is very understandable why "N" with less then "very light" preset made bad performance and soon you give it more memory to play everything is back to normal.
However I did test on that many times but in both cases my apps are getting removed from memory with more then 50% still available memory. That's why I need somehow to stop system from emptying memory until critical point. Maybe some build.prop lines can help but I am not really expert in that area.
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What is the solution for Pixel 2 rom of LG Nexus 5X? os ur build prop gonna help for me? if yes plz replay.
MHS3511 said:
What is the solution for Pixel 2 rom of LG Nexus 5X? os ur build prop gonna help for me? if yes plz replay.
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No idea man, I don't have LG Nexus 5 anymore. Today roms have that battery optimizations build in. Go there and make the app you like to be in memory "not optimized" and in Kernel auditor or any other app flashing memory to "very light". That should help. Good lack
Hello fellow MI5 users,
I received my phone one week ago and I start having some issues with the RAM. In fact, at the start of the phone, it's already at 70% filled up which is too much for me. Indeed I use a lot of RAM and I'm that type of guy who let the apps running in background everytime because I keep opening them everytime. I was wondering if it was possible to have a link to a better ROM because I guess it's the problem and also a link for a tutorial on how to flash it I'm a newbie in this type of manipulation but I'm very interested so I hope you will help me guys. By the way, my MIUI version is the MIUI 8 Global 6.8.18. I honestly don't know what can i give as information but I'll answer ASAP at any questions
Have a good day
This is working as design - Android keeps apps in RAM to reduce I/O on resuming from background - faster & more energy efficient.
You can change the number of background processes via the development settings or you can kill apps on closing.
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This is working as design - Android keeps apps in RAM to reduce I/O on resuming from background - faster & more energy efficient.
You can change the number of background processes via the development settings or you can kill apps on closing.
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I've seen that indeed but it was set at standard so I'll probably put it at 3 I guess. How should I set the memory optimization? I've read it should be set off, altough I tried middle and I feel comfortable like that?
Is it normal to start at 70% without anything started ?
Unitae said:
I've seen that indeed but it was set at standard so I'll probably put it at 3 I guess. How should I set the memory optimization? I've read it should be set off, altough I tried middle and I feel comfortable like that?
Is it normal to start at 70% without anything started ?
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For the 3GB version? Pretty much. MIUI is horrible.
After booting I typically had 1.3GB / 3.0GB free but after a while this averaged to around 650MB free.
free ram is useless ram , which cant accelerate anything
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free ram is useless ram , which cant accelerate anything
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I know that but I need more because I use multi-task a lot. Is there a way to change the ROM so I have more space to work with? Even if the ROM itself is beautiful.
Indeed it's the 3gb version 32gb. It have lags sometimes and I think it's due to the full RAM. Can I have a link to a custom ROM which works fine on this device?
I'm a little confused, you want as much RAM available but you want as many processes in the background as well? That sounds contradicting to me. Memory optimization maps to ZRAM, if you set it off there will be no memory compression and thus even less processes will be kept in the background. If you set it high, you can have as many processes as possible, but there could be lag due to (de)compression time overhead.
Try different Rom
Try to use a different Rom. On the Stock Rom is a lot of bloatware which is using your RAM too.
First you need to get an Bootloader unlock permission and have to unlock the BL.
It could take up to 10 Days to get the permission from Xiaomi
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/how-to/unlocking-xiaomi-mi-5-bootloader-t3336243
After that you have to flash a recovery like trwp via ADB. Google it for videos or threads how to do it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/development/recovery-twrp-xiaomi-mi-5-t3412123
After that you can flash a developer Rom.
I use the Resurrection Remix and it works fine. The CM 13 stucks in Bootloop. Maybe because I made a full wipe and had to sideload my rom.
Because you don't have a SD card option you have to have the room installed on your hard drive. But just follow the description below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/development/unofficial-resurrection-remix-m-5-6-9-t3395945
It took me just 1 day to get the unlock permit but don't try do do it without it. You brick your phone.
The RR Rom works really fine. Fingerprint and everything. It has no bloatware and you have to get the gaps like in the description. Arm64 nano seems enough.
Good luck and fun with a great phone.
Normally the android system kills the unused apps even in background. But i also experienced lack in multitasking.
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I'm a little confused, you want as much RAM available but you want as many processes in the background as well? That sounds contradicting to me. Memory optimization maps to ZRAM, if you set it off there will be no memory compression and thus even less processes will be kept in the background. If you set it high, you can have as many processes as possible, but there could be lag due to (de)compression time overhead.
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I think you misunderstood the OP question, he wanted more free RAM at start in order to have as many as possible apps in the background.
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I think you misunderstood the OP question, he wanted more free RAM at start in order to have as many as possible app in the background.
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Yup exactly
Try trwp 3.0.2.0 with 3.0.2.1 people experience bootloop
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Try trwp 3.0.2.0 with 3.0.2.1 people experience bootloop
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In fact, I'm just doing some research before asking because I'm very new. I have found some videos but they are pretty old and not on this phone but I guess it works more or less the same way
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I think you misunderstood the OP question, he wanted more free RAM at start in order to have as many as possible apps in the background.
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OK, in that case, just open Security->Permissions->Autostart and disable those which aren't immediately needed upon start. I have 18 autostart items (mostly system monitoring & social media apps) and I usually start with 1.5 GB free RAM.