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hey guys
have had my nexus since feb now and never looked back till i seen the iphone 4
i know i know
i hate apple 2 but with all there polished apps and 720p rec and well just the smoothness im wondering if i should take the switch
i live in aust and pretty much no1 knows about the nexus or any even android its weird and there not really in Australian apps for train times or football scores that are any good.. and i have seen apples and there awesome
so after seeing the iphone 4 what you guys think
I'll never buy an iPhone or an Apple product, simply because I dislike how they run things and "assume" for the majority of their user base.
I will readily admit the iPhone4 looks good and will have a stunning display and has loads of apps. However I see the iPhone as a common user phone - not that there's anything wrong with that.
I prefer Android because it gives me the flexibility to customise and manipulate almost everything on it, how I want and in the way I want. Apple does not.
And you can't really compare teh hardware between the two - the iPhone4 is a good piece of kit, no doubt. But keep in mind the NexusOne came out long before it. New hardware and kit comes out every month or so - within a few months there will be phones that greatly surpass the iPhone4's hardware.
It comes down to what YOU want from a phone. I'm happy with Android and will stick with it, having used Symbian and Winmo 6.5 previously. I've used an iPhone - and I don't like the "Apple Experience".
Just my opinion..
I like the customisation and freedom of android, but the iphone 4 is very well polished, I just want to see how the screen does in bright daylight as the N1 is ****...
If you have to ask, I think you're in the wrong place.
720p just came in
Stick to the Nexus one and wait for the Nexus two? probably better hardware and android 3.0
^^if there is a nexus two im deffinatly buying it the nexus one has been the best phone ever and iwont swtich to apple. ever.
Or get a Samsung galaxy s
what is so attractive about the new iphone, why are people all the sudden "should i switch?". Why?! Nothing has changed! They have a new screen, thats cool, multitaking, thats old news but ok, WHAT?! There is nothing enticing in the new iPhone versus the older ones
The big question to ask is this:
Do you LIKE being in shackles?
Or do you like to be FREE?
If you like being in shackles, then I have to ask this next question: Why have you not committed a serious crime in a non-death-penalty jurisdiction to land yourself permanently in prison?
Or have you? Do they let you have cellphones in prison now?
4luk88 said:
hey guys
have had my nexus since feb now and never looked back till i seen the iphone 4
i know i know
i hate apple 2 but with all there polished apps and 720p rec and well just the smoothness im wondering if i should take the switch
i live in aust and pretty much no1 knows about the nexus or any even android its weird and there not really in Australian apps for train times or football scores that are any good.. and i have seen apples and there awesome
so after seeing the iphone 4 what you guys think
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Go for the phone that you feel gives the most of your money. We are consumers and I have learned the hard way that no company really cares about you or your support. Companies like MS, Google and Apple are there to make money. Don't feel obliged to stay with a phone or OS because of moral reasons. If one product gives you better value go for it.
For me, N1 was better value than WinMo and I made the switch. A lot of my work is based on google apps (domain one.. no android) so I get more done with android. But if tomorrow, iPhone does it better, Ii will shift.
You will save a lot or be more happy by throwing away any brand loyalty/hatred.
I'm sticking with whatever phone Cyanogen get's I had the iPhone and realized I hated it because I felt so restricted I mean I won't lie it had great apps and games and a superior media player but I still feel that android is superior just because little features like deleting a song from my phone instead of hooking up to iTunes. After I got rid of my iPhone I got a G1 and discovered Cyanogen and then saw that he was getting the Nexus One and I got one a week or 2 after it was realized. So whatever phone he gets next I'll probably be getting it
I would try N7 in a heartbeat, if it weren't for already having the iPad3 alongside my GNex.
I was just wondering if anyone has all three and uses them all quite a bit?
The only time I could see myself really using all three is browsing N7 in bed while watching a movie on XBMC on iPad3.
But even then it seems like total overkill.
I have 4S, iPad 3 and now N7. The N7 is just easier to use for surfing and reading.
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I have an iPhone 4, the new iPad, GNex and Nexus 7. I still use the iPad at home, Nexus 7 has replaced my notepad at work and GNex is my primary phone for now.
I have an N7 and an iPad 3. I use the N7 for quick updates on email and such, along with ebook reading and gaming. I use the iPad for browsing, RSS feed reading, and video (particularly HBO Go). Both have their strengths and weaknesses.
If I was forced to choose just one, I'd choose the N7 if it had HBO Go. I think the 7" form factor is just better overall, for my uses at least.
Dang, you guys with iPhones and GNex surprise me as well though I'm impressed.
I sold my 4S a few days after I got my GNex.
I originally planned on SIM swapping phones when I pleased, but then I found my 4S collecting dust and it not feasible.
Thinking of getting the Gnex, how o you like move from 4s? Miss anything? I hear a new nexus phone com in soon, the gnex only like 8 months old right?
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I love my GNex.
4S camera is unbeatable. And I had the 32GB model, but I sold it after unlocking it for enough to cover GNex and almost all of my upgrade if I choose to get the next iPhone on contract.
A new Nexus might come out/probably will, but after that price drop, I didn't want to be playing the waiting game. And I've never owned an Android before this.
I do
I have a retina iPad (still my favorite), Galaxy Nexus (it has pretty much become a glorified hotspot for my Nexus 7), iPhone 4s (my daily phone, but just barely as I go back and forth between my Galxy Nexus and iPhone 4s), and just got the Nexus 7 (I got the 8gb one as I use it primarily for an ereader and tinkering).
Like I said above my go to device is still my iPad. Thevisplay is about 90% of the reason. I mean the Nexus 7 has an ok display and it gets the job done but I expected better than my old ipad 2 as it has more pixel density and both are IPS, but I was way wrong. It is better than my former Transformer Prime by a country mile and way way way better than my Xoom. I really am sensitive to great displays though. For some it doesn't bother them, but for me I've been waiting years for the display tech we are now seeing and the iPhone and iPad retina displays are so far ahead of anything else out in my opinion it's almost hard to use anything else. I know it sounds stupid and lame but even months after getting my retina iPad at launch I still get that amazed feeling every time I pick it up and I really really notice the displays on my Nexus 7 and Galaxy Nexus especially when reading.
Anyways I would say if you got the cash pick a Nexus 7 up. It is the best $200 I've spent in a long time and I have no regrets except the severe lack of apps but I don't notice it as much as I did on my Prime or Xoom I think that's due to phone apps (like twitter) look much better on the Nexus 7 than a 10 inch display. If you have any other questions let me know. I'll be more than happy to help.
Second that, best 200 spent in some time. N7 is just refreshing!
Which you prefer, 4s or gnex overall?
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yeah i'd be hard pressed to give up my ipad 3 also. I love it and it satisfies my iOS cravings. After all, iOS was apparently originally designed for a tablet in its development before being launched on iPhone (back when it was iPhone OS)
I also swapped it way too many times to get one that had an acceptable QC screen, BEAUTIFUL display, without a pink hot corner, or multiple colored tints, or weird contrast. No way I'd give this one up easily. Even when an iPad "4" or whatever comes out.
Even with Color Profile jailbreak app to tweak it can't hide a defective screen. Meanwhile, the one and only iPad3 my parents bought is perfect as well (I have a knack for this thing).
4S screen is definitely technically superior to AMOLED and brighter, but I don't care. I pick up my parents' iPhones and I wonder how I went 3.5" so long without complaint. the 4.65" (and maybe I got a great screen too whereas others did not) makes browsing enjoyable again on the go.
I am still "open" as to which phone I will purchase next. But I'm so much more pleased with my Nexus than I could have ever anticipated.
I should also add I've had every generation iPhone (traded my 4 and cash for a 4S back in January before I sold it a few weeks ago) and without jailbreak, I think I would have tried out Android much sooner. Stock iPhones bother me a lot. They're too limiting. I was even going to hold onto my 4 indefinitely over 4S until I started seeing that developers were close to wrapping up the iOS5/A5 exploit on 5.0.1 (and later 5.1.1)
mario24601 said:
Thinking of getting the Gnex, how o you like move from 4s? Miss anything? I hear a new nexus phone com in soon, the gnex only like 8 months old right?
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I keep going back and forth as I own the Galaxy Nexus and iPhone 4s, but the iPhone is my daly phone right now. It is just a much better all around device in my opinion. I love the display and it is the best I've ever used and it makes a huge difference especially considering my Nexus display feels really dingey. I don't know how to explain it, but it really bothers me. I'm not a huge fan of super AMOLED displays and usually stay away from Samsung (although this is by far the best Samsung device I've used in terms of build quality). I'm just a huge fan of displays showing correct colors and the over saturation, dingey whites and grays, and pentile display really throw me off. With that said I won't be getting rid of my Galaxy Nexus anytime soon as I still feel it is the only Android device out right now worth buying and that's due to the latest software. jelly Bean is excellent and a huge step in the right direction.
I dont think you will regret buying one, but for me the iPhone is just the better phone and smaller screen and lack of LTE are worth the payoff for everything else that just works. Number one is the display like I mentioned. Two, the apps. You cannot get anything close on android when it comes to apps and especially quality and it is getting more and more obvious especially on tablets. Three, build quality. It amazes me that it's been over two and a half years since the iPhone 4 release and still OEMs are behind the iPhone in build quality. The only companies even playing in the same ball field is Nokia (I sure hope a high end WP8 comes to Verizon with LTE) and HTC and only recently with the One X and One S. Samsung and Motorola are not even close (in my opinion so don't think Im trying to flame). Four, Siri. Siri is more useful then I ever thought it would be. Don't believe the internets claiming that Google Now wipes the floor with Siri. It's just not true. Google Now is great and is a little faster, but it gets a lot of mistakes. I just cant explain it you just have to use it. When iOS 6 comes out it will add some much needed features and it will be no contest. The only thing Google Now does I wish Siri does is sports scores and iOS 6 will fill that gap. Five, fluidity. This should be number 2 on the list if there was any rhyme or reason to this list. There is no competition and even with the Project Butter improvements (I honestly think Project Butter is the single best improvement the Google team has ever added to android and it is catching up to iOS. The problem is they are catching up to iOS on the iPhone 3Gs. A huge improvement, but still a ways behind Apple). This is what keeps me coming back to iOS as of late. I tried to use JB as my daily phone and honestly I like the look and feel more than iOS but this is the main reason outside the display that keeps me going back. I dumped my iPhone 3Gs for the Nexus One years ago and have only used Android until getting my retina iPad. I even didn't purchase the iPad 2 and instead got the Xoom and later the Transformer Prime. I really notice it and it's a huge annoyance.
Sorry so long. Please just take this as an opinion and a subjective one at that. I only posted in this thread to help as I spend entirely too much money on technology and I know my opinion is by far the end all be all, but I dont get caught up in brand loyalty (I hate using the word fanboy as it is ugly and sounds stupid). The reason is I like to use all tech as there really is a reason we have two (hopefully three with windows and windows phone 8) great competitors in the market and being loyal to a brand made by a company that cares less about you and only wants your money is silly and keeps me from using some great and innovative technology. So don't take this as flaming just giviing my opinion. Good luck and let me know if u have any other questions I will be more than happy to help.
I have a iPhone 4s new iPad, Gnex, Nexus 7 and a few other Android devices .. but I'll tell you one thing .. my Apple products hardly get touched ... besides my macbook.. which is my main computer ... I just can't be tied down to just what Apple wants ... Android is open source and has more options for me to control... Cydia is cool .. but I still find those tweaks to not come close to what Android does
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angermeans said:
I keep going back and forth as I own the Galaxy Nexus and iPhone 4s, but the iPhone is my daly phone right now. It is just a much better all around device in my opinion. I love the display and it is the best I've ever used and it makes a huge difference especially considering my Nexus display feels really dingey. I don't know how to explain it, but it really bothers me. I'm not a huge fan of super AMOLED displays and usually stay away from Samsung (although this is by far the best Samsung device I've used in terms of build quality). I'm just a huge fan of displays showing correct colors and the over saturation, dingey whites and grays, and pentile display really throw me off. With that said I won't be getting rid of my Galaxy Nexus anytime soon as I still feel it is the only Android device out right now worth buying and that's due to the latest software. jelly Bean is excellent and a huge step in the right direction.
I dont think you will regret buying one, but for me the iPhone is just the better phone and smaller screen and lack of LTE are worth the payoff for everything else that just works. Number one is the display like I mentioned. Two, the apps. You cannot get anything close on android when it comes to apps and especially quality and it is getting more and more obvious especially on tablets. Three, build quality. It amazes me that it's been over two and a half years since the iPhone 4 release and still OEMs are behind the iPhone in build quality. The only companies even playing in the same ball field is Nokia (I sure hope a high end WP8 comes to Verizon with LTE) and HTC and only recently with the One X and One S. Samsung and Motorola are not even close (in my opinion so don't think Im trying to flame). Four, Siri. Siri is more useful then I ever thought it would be. Don't believe the internets claiming that Google Now wipes the floor with Siri. It's just not true. Google Now is great and is a little faster, but it gets a lot of mistakes. I just cant explain it you just have to use it. When iOS 6 comes out it will add some much needed features and it will be no contest. The only thing Google Now does I wish Siri does is sports scores and iOS 6 will fill that gap. Five, fluidity. This should be number 2 on the list if there was any rhyme or reason to this list. There is no competition and even with the Project Butter improvements (I honestly think Project Butter is the single best improvement the Google team has ever added to android and it is catching up to iOS. The problem is they are catching up to iOS on the iPhone 3Gs. A huge improvement, but still a ways behind Apple). This is what keeps me coming back to iOS as of late. I tried to use JB as my daily phone and honestly I like the look and feel more than iOS but this is the main reason outside the display that keeps me going back. I dumped my iPhone 3Gs for the Nexus One years ago and have only used Android until getting my retina iPad. I even didn't purchase the iPad 2 and instead got the Xoom and later the Transformer Prime. I really notice it and it's a huge annoyance.
Sorry so long. Please just take this as an opinion and a subjective one at that. I only posted in this thread to help as I spend entirely too much money on technology and I know my opinion is by far the end all be all, but I dont get caught up in brand loyalty (I hate using the word fanboy as it is ugly and sounds stupid). The reason is I like to use all tech as there really is a reason we have two (hopefully three with windows and windows phone 8) great competitors in the market and being loyal to a brand made by a company that cares less about you and only wants your money is silly and keeps me from using some great and innovative technology. So don't take this as flaming just giviing my opinion. Good luck and let me know if u have any other questions I will be more than happy to help.
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Thanks, good feedback!
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Yeah I appreciate your feedback as well.
I don't get why if you guys have one device collecting dust, why you'd hold onto it.
That was my original mentality to go between 4S and Nexus considering I got my 4S cheap and Nexus didn't break the bank. But realistically, I'm not gonna carry two phones at once, or a paper clip and rip apart both phones because I'm more in the mood for one than the other.
I think I preferred iPhone for the services it offered more than the phone itself (iMessage, though I have it on my iPad even though its apple ID and not phone number, but I have unlimited texts and I don't miss it much at all -- don't care if it says delivered or not, iTunes match although after a few major mishaps I feel like I should be refunded, and it transcodes audio if its not in the iTunes music store, Google Music uploads your collection as it is, which takes a while, but has its pluses too and the price is right).
The 4S camera is great, but I wanted to dabble with Android and Jelly Bean goodness, and I have a sneaking feeling I'll get a huge flagship phone at the end of the year that rocks the socks off that anyways.
And I'm into SLR photography.
4S is great, and SUPER fast, and with jailbreak mods, really enjoyable. But I think that small screen really hinders the experience, and I'm tired of the 4x4 layout after having all five iPhones.
I missed my iPhone a few days after selling it and was considering picking up another to SIM swap, then realized I didn't touch my iPhone once since having GNex. Maybe it was the novelty, but I've almost had it a month, and I'm immensely satisfied. And the huge mod community keeps me entertained as well.
And a new iPhone is just around the bend in case I ever want to dabble again. iOS 6 doesn't seem as competitive as iOS 5 was last year, its more severe catchup imo from what I've seen.
the iOS UI works great on tablet though. it'd be nice to have N7 as well, but I'm not as bothered by the "boring, old" UI on iPad for some reason.
And... I still have a 3GS in case I ever have iphone cravings, but even that's just been sitting on top of my drawer. So it seemed like having the cash instead of 4S was a good call.
And I never bought 4S for siri. I used it a few times, but I've already used Google Now like 3 x more than the 6 months I had 4S. I like that it has no charm, it shouldnt. Give me what I want so I can move on. If you can't answer a question, Google search is awesome. I don't need you to be cute, and I don't need an AI friend. That's just me though. neither are the MOST NECESSARY ever though. just nice additions.
And 4S (my familys') feels heavy after being used to juggling my Nexus.
For certain functions my iPad 3 is just too bulky and heavy. I have a rezound and I suppose I got the n7 was because I was using the phone for tapatalk, quick browsing, email and the like. I was using it like a mini tablet so I decided to just get one. BTW of all three devices I find the n7 easiest to type on.
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No problem man. I would find someone that has one and try it out. For some it bothers them and others it doesnt. I'll always be interested in iOS (especially since I have a MacBook Pro with Mountain Lion and having an iPhone 4s, retina iPad, and mac really has a lot of benefits with iCloud and all). Also I didnt mention it above but another thing I do often on my phone is music and especially podcasts and the iOS wins hands down at that. Google music doesn't hold a candle to iTunes in my opinion, but the again Safari doesn't hold a candle to Chrome and Gmail is one of my favorite apps of all time. Im really invested in iOS and Google. I'm just glad that Apple and Google have worked some stuff out to get Chrome on iOS and it seems to work pretty well. They must have more access to APIs then normal app devs. It just seems to be a great browser. It blows my mind cause you can't even get Chrome on pre ICS phones, which is the majority of all Android devices out right now, but you can get it on iOS. Also it might just be the retina iPad and iPhone but Google+ app looks, works and feels better on iOS than Android. I just wish Gmail on iOS was good as it seems pretty bad. Anyways good hunting you can always do what I've done and others on this post and get ya a Galaxy Nexus to run side by side your iPhone 4s. They both have their advantages, disadvantages, bugs, and features after all.
Yeah for sure.
I love my MBA 2011 13" like no other. I've used Macs exclusively (well, with occasional XP on virtual machine for windows only hack tools but never for leisure) for photography and what I do for the past 8 years. And every iPhone. And every iPad (though I flipped my iPad 1 for iPad 2 once I could get my hands on one within weeks of having it, I didn't want a dinosaur dated tablet once A5 came out with 512 of RAM). It was nerve wrecking even giving Android a try. I almost returned it to sender for fear I wouldn't like it and have to eat the $50+ restocking fee from Samsung/Google.
But I bit the bullet and I am glad I did.
I went from "I've been way too curious to try android, now that its $350 no contract for a Nexus, no brainer and I'll swap 4S and Nexus interchangeably" to "I'm gonna not even bother" to "oh whatever" to "Nexus only" and awaiting to see what comes out in just a few months and taking it from there.
In a good spot
it also bothered me when Chrome came out for iOS, that it uses Safari engine due to App Store guidelines but with Chrome-ish UI. It's what I call "fake Chrome" and I went back to using Mobile Safari right away. I still am not sure how it's so popuar besides syncing up with Chrome bookmarks and history and such from desktop Chrome.
And agreed, Gmail app on Android is so much better than Mail app with Gmail in my opinion. Once my exchange server account expired, and I just redirected the alias to my gmail, I found Android integration better.
And I'm curious to see how Apple maps pans out, but I'm more frightened than anything. Turn by turn and Google maps on android is excellent. I can't imagine that being a big positive, getting rid of something I rely on quite a bit. At best, it'll be a "successful alternative"
Lightflow rocks so hard too. I wish iPhone had something comparable. Knowing whether I have SMS, missed call, Voicemail, or Gmail from the distance without picking it up.
The thing that concerns me about N7, aside from the fact I have an iPad3 and love it so much, is that apps aren't yet tablet ready or made-for-tablet. Though for $200, and given that its Nexus brand and its popularity will rapidly increase, I think it'll be a well solidified market in no time. Who knows, maybe I'll end up getting one. Just dual wielding tablets seems more ridiculous to me than dual wielding phones, a concept I was originally "gun hoe" about.
I really enjoy this interesting conversation/debate and I hope it continues. I'm an XDA noob but people here seem so tolerant or indifferent of others technology preferences (without atrributing the fanboy label), and it's so awesome.
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Yeah I appreciate your feedback as well.
I don't get why if you guys have one device collecting dust, why you'd hold onto it.
That was my original mentality to go between 4S and Nexus considering I got my 4S cheap and Nexus didn't break the bank. But realistically, I'm not gonna carry two phones at once, or a paper clip and rip apart both phones because I'm more in the mood for one than the other.
I think I preferred iPhone for the services it offered more than the phone itself (iMessage, though I have it on my iPad even though its apple ID and not phone number, but I have unlimited texts and I don't miss it much at all -- don't care if it says delivered or not, iTunes match although after a few major mishaps I feel like I should be refunded, and it transcodes audio if its not in the iTunes music store, Google Music uploads your collection as it is, which takes a while, but has its pluses too and the price is right).
The 4S camera is great, but I wanted to dabble with Android and Jelly Bean goodness, and I have a sneaking feeling I'll get a huge flagship phone at the end of the year that rocks the socks off that anyways.
And I'm into SLR photography.
4S is great, and SUPER fast, and with jailbreak mods, really enjoyable. But I think that small screen really hinders the experience, and I'm tired of the 4x4 layout after having all five iPhones.
I missed my iPhone a few days after selling it and was considering picking up another to SIM swap, then realized I didn't touch my iPhone once since having GNex. Maybe it was the novelty, but I've almost had it a month, and I'm immensely satisfied. And the huge mod community keeps me entertained as well.
And a new iPhone is just around the bend in case I ever want to dabble again. iOS 6 doesn't seem as competitive as iOS 5 was last year, its more severe catchup imo from what I've seen.
the iOS UI works great on tablet though. it'd be nice to have N7 as well, but I'm not as bothered by the "boring, old" UI on iPad for some reason.
And... I still have a 3GS in case I ever have iphone cravings, but even that's just been sitting on top of my drawer. So it seemed like having the cash instead of 4S was a good call.
And I never bought 4S for siri. I used it a few times, but I've already used Google Now like 3 x more than the 6 months I had 4S. I like that it has no charm, it shouldnt. Give me what I want so I can move on. If you can't answer a question, Google search is awesome. I don't need you to be cute, and I don't need an AI friend. That's just me though. neither are the MOST NECESSARY ever though. just nice additions.
And 4S (my familys') feels heavy after being used to juggling my Nexus.
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It sounds like we are almost opposite. Ive been on Android for years and felt that I had left iOS for good. I even tortured myself by trying to talk myself into thinking that Android tablets where better than iPads and purchased the horrible Xoom and buggy Transformer Prime. I find myself in a weird spot with Android right now. Its hard to put my finger on it, really. I started out with the Nexus One after owning every iPhone up to the 3Gs and I was so bored with iOS. The Nexus One is still to this day my favorite device I've ever owned. I even find myself sometimes looking for a great deal on one just to have it. I have a bunch of phones lying around and I still can't see why I ever sold it. I think it was because it was an ATT one and I was even more sick of ATT then I was the 3Gs and I got a great job at Verizon Wireless (still work there now in fact). I keep all my devices in pristine condition and I hope I dont jinx myself, but I honestly cannot remember the last time I've dropped a device. Anyways me being bored and getting into a great new world in Android (the early days were great and Android is a whole different beast now) and also going to school and learning to code it felt like I would always have an Android device. I loved the openness, tinkering was great, and the community was even better. I mean I kept my Macbook and have even had a couple since then. I cant stand Windows (although I loved my HTC Trophy and WP7, go figure. Also XBOX 360 is still the best console ever IMHO) and I love Mac OS X. I guess the only thing I can think of that happened was the many many many skinned Android devices I've owned since my Nexus One and the many problems that came with them. I must have owned a dozen or so and if it came out on Verizon and was a high end device I probably owned it the last two and a half years. I had no desire to go back to the iPhone for the same reasons you mentioned above. The small screen and lack of LTE was the main ones.
Anyways the last year and a half has been real annoying on the Android front at least for me. You can chalk that up to what I mentioned above. The always waiting for updates (even thought the first thing I do is root and flash a ROM), the extreme lack of apps (even though I really didnt notice this until getting the retina iPad), the lagginess you get on an Android phone, and worst of all the bastardization of OEM skinned devices by their creators. What I mean was you would get maybe one update and it was on average 6-8 months too late, always had a million bugs, and by the time it launched you still are an Android version behind. Mostly this aggravating feeling I have of Android came from 3 devices. The HTC TBolt, Motorola Xoom (and Motorola Droid X and Droid 2, but Ill leave those out as I only kept them for less than a month before I couldnt take Blur anymore), and the Transformer Prime. Those devices and especially Honeycomb killed my love of Android. Well, those and Verizon not having a Nexus branded device (Im sorry I wont ever call the Xoom a Nexus device or even a Google Experience Device. Waiting 9 months for a promised 4G update, lack of SD card that works, months of waiting for ICS, and worst of all the horrible display. Its still the only device that gave me migraines on a regular basis).
I've always loved a high pixel density display. Its the main reason I left the 3Gs for the Nexus One, the reason I got the Xoom over the iPad2 (even though the Xoom had more pixel density it was no where near the quality display that Apple used on its iPad), and the main reason (paired with my new found hate of Android tablets after the Xoom and Prime) that I finally dumped Android for iOS when the retina iPad came out. I figured I could deal with iOS for the high pixel density display. What I found shocked the hell out of me. The iOS I left on the 3Gs was no where near the iOS on the retina iPad. Like you said in your post iOS is gorgeous and works great on the iPad. The iPhone is a little cramped and iOS def feels that it was designed to originally come on the iPad and not the iPhone. I love the apps, the display was the best I've ever used on any device, it was extremely fluid, and most of all it did not feel like I was using a tablet. What I mean is I always fought with using my Xoom and Prime. It felt as if I was scratching my fingers down a chalkboard whenever I swiped through screens (btw this is no where near the feeling i get on the Nexus 7). The iPad never fought with me it just got out of the way and gave me my content. It is genious and I still cannot see exactly what it is, but this is the best I can describe it.
Anyways, before the iPad I dumped my Tbolt for the HTC Trophy and waited for the Galaxy Nexus to be released. I used that and loved it. I still do. It is a completely different device and pure Google is the only way to go in my opinion and I dont forsee myself going back to a skinned device at least not how OEMs are treating them anyways. After my new iPad I decided to get an iPhone (I have always had two devices as I use my main device for personal things and my secondary for a side business I run with my brother and I didnt want customers having my personal line. I dont usually bring both with me every day except now). The iPhone was great and a good change, but Siri is the main reason I use it (and the other reasons I posted above).
Sorry this is so long. I dont blame ya if you dont read it lol. Have a great night and like I said if your still on the fence about the N7 just get it you wont regret it.
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tyrellcorpnexus said:
Yeah I appreciate your feedback as well.
I don't get why if you guys have one device collecting dust, why you'd hold onto it.
That was my original mentality to go between 4S and Nexus considering I got my 4S cheap and Nexus didn't break the bank. But realistically, I'm not gonna carry two phones at once, or a paper clip and rip apart both phones because I'm more in the mood for one than the other.
I think I preferred iPhone for the services it offered more than the phone itself (iMessage, though I have it on my iPad even though its apple ID and not phone number, but I have unlimited texts and I don't miss it much at all -- don't care if it says delivered or not, iTunes match although after a few major mishaps I feel like I should be refunded, and it transcodes audio if its not in the iTunes music store, Google Music uploads your collection as it is, which takes a while, but has its pluses too and the price is right).
The 4S camera is great, but I wanted to dabble with Android and Jelly Bean goodness, and I have a sneaking feeling I'll get a huge flagship phone at the end of the year that rocks the socks off that anyways.
And I'm into SLR photography.
4S is great, and SUPER fast, and with jailbreak mods, really enjoyable. But I think that small screen really hinders the experience, and I'm tired of the 4x4 layout after having all five iPhones.
I missed my iPhone a few days after selling it and was considering picking up another to SIM swap, then realized I didn't touch my iPhone once since having GNex. Maybe it was the novelty, but I've almost had it a month, and I'm immensely satisfied. And the huge mod community keeps me entertained as well.
And a new iPhone is just around the bend in case I ever want to dabble again. iOS 6 doesn't seem as competitive as iOS 5 was last year, its more severe catchup imo from what I've seen.
the iOS UI works great on tablet though. it'd be nice to have N7 as well, but I'm not as bothered by the "boring, old" UI on iPad for some reason.
And... I still have a 3GS in case I ever have iphone cravings, but even that's just been sitting on top of my drawer. So it seemed like having the cash instead of 4S was a good call.
And I never bought 4S for siri. I used it a few times, but I've already used Google Now like 3 x more than the 6 months I had 4S. I like that it has no charm, it shouldnt. Give me what I want so I can move on. If you can't answer a question, Google search is awesome. I don't need you to be cute, and I don't need an AI friend. That's just me though. neither are the MOST NECESSARY ever though. just nice additions.
And 4S (my familys') feels heavy after being used to juggling my Nexus.
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Yeah for sure.
I love my MBA 2011 13" like no other. I've used Macs exclusively (well, with occasional XP on virtual machine for windows only hack tools but never for leisure) for photography and what I do for the past 8 years. And every iPhone. And every iPad (though I flipped my iPad 1 for iPad 2 once I could get my hands on one within weeks of having it, I didn't want a dinosaur dated tablet once A5 came out with 512 of RAM). It was nerve wrecking even giving Android a try. I almost returned it to sender for fear I wouldn't like it and have to eat the $50+ restocking fee from Samsung/Google.
But I bit the bullet and I am glad I did.
I went from "I've been way too curious to try android, now that its $350 no contract for a Nexus, no brainer and I'll swap 4S and Nexus interchangeably" to "I'm gonna not even bother" to "oh whatever" to "Nexus only" and awaiting to see what comes out in just a few months and taking it from there.
In a good spot
it also bothered me when Chrome came out for iOS, that it uses Safari engine due to App Store guidelines but with Chrome-ish UI. It's what I call "fake Chrome" and I went back to using Mobile Safari right away. I still am not sure how it's so popuar besides syncing up with Chrome bookmarks and history and such from desktop Chrome.
And agreed, Gmail app on Android is so much better than Mail app with Gmail in my opinion. Once my exchange server account expired, and I just redirected the alias to my gmail, I found Android integration better.
And I'm curious to see how Apple maps pans out, but I'm more frightened than anything. Turn by turn and Google maps on android is excellent. I can't imagine that being a big positive, getting rid of something I rely on quite a bit. At best, it'll be a "successful alternative"
Lightflow rocks so hard too. I wish iPhone had something comparable. Knowing whether I have SMS, missed call, Voicemail, or Gmail from the distance without picking it up.
The thing that concerns me about N7, aside from the fact I have an iPad3 and love it so much, is that apps aren't yet tablet ready or made-for-tablet. Though for $200, and given that its Nexus brand and its popularity will rapidly increase, I think it'll be a well solidified market in no time. Who knows, maybe I'll end up getting one. Just dual wielding tablets seems more ridiculous to me than dual wielding phones, a concept I was originally "gun hoe" about.
I really enjoy this interesting conversation/debate and I hope it continues. I'm an XDA noob but people here seem so tolerant or indifferent of others technology preferences (without atrributing the fanboy label), and it's so awesome.
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Yeah I am glad we had a chance to converse as well (even though I am sure that most others on this thread are bored lol). Its interesting to me as we are almost exactly opposite. Your coming from primarily iOS to Google's Android (dont even bother yourself with the skinned kind its no where near the same and will only frusterate you) and I'm coming from all Android to iOS. Whats more interesting is finding someone that is open to both sides of the fence. You dont find that often, but I wish others would try something before bashing an OS because of their love for another OS. You really miss out on some great tech and it took me going from one to the other to find that out.
Both OS have very great features and I wish I could just have one device that had all features, but we all know without competition neither Android or iOS would be what they are today. I'm kind of in dangerous territory right now as like I said I am heavily invested in both OS's. I really couldnt ever completely get rid of Android as I would miss the native Gmail application and especially the Google Maps. I havent really mentioned that, but your right it really is Android's killer feature and even though Apple is on the horizon of launching their own turn-by-turn solution I have doubts that it will be anywhere as good as Google Maps.
The main reason I use both devices right now is because I feel like I have to. The Nexus 7 has helped in that a little, but I need the LTE and the my Nexus' hotspot. I cant go back to 3G. It doesnt bother me a whole lot on the iPhone, but on my iPad or Nexus 7 I just feel like I have to have it. I know there are more less costly and convenient options than taking both the 4s for its phone, texting, music, siri, etc and my Nexus for Gmail, Google Maps, LTE, bigger display, rooting/roms, tinkering, openness, etc, but until a better solution comes a long I'm going to have to do just that. Also, like I said I do need both phones as I dont want to mix personal with business as that doesnt work too well especially when working full time and going to school 3/4 time, and then having a secondary business we run (even though the latter is suffering as I just dont have the time). All I know is that I am driving my wife completely nuts with all these devices lol.
Have a good night like I said its been interesting chatting with ya. Its rare to find someone on XDA that is even open to hearing about iOS even with the popularity of the iPad. I just hope that popularity brings more open people that arent so devoted to one brand that they completely refuse to listen to anything without feeling like they have to defend their phone or tablet choice to the death.
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"The thing that concerns me about N7, aside from the fact I have an iPad3 and love it so much, is that apps aren't yet tablet ready or made-for-tablet. Though for $200, and given that its Nexus brand and its popularity will rapidly increase, I think it'll be a well solidified market in no time. Who knows, maybe I'll end up getting one. Just dual wielding tablets seems more ridiculous to me than dual wielding phones, a concept I was originally "gun hoe" about."
I completely noticed I didnt even mention your concern about the above. This is exactly my only real problem with the Nexus 7. On my iPad I honestly dont have any iPhone apps on it only tablet optimized applications and on Android you just cant do that. The 7 inch form factor really makes this much easier to deal with. Even apps that are made for Android phones seem to work really well on the Nexus 7. There is still the lack of applications to deal with, but if you are like me you will most likely use your iPad for most applications anyway especially considering you can only get a measly 8 or 16gb on the Nexus 7. My justification of getting the N7 when I really cannot find a single fault with my iPad was that I read a lot and it is difficult reading on the iPad. Its heavy, awkward, and I just found myself not doing it or using a book instead. It was a little depressing as one of the main reasons I got an iPad was for reading. The Nexus 7 completely fills this void. It is lite and perfect for reading and is about the size of a smaller paperback book. The resolution is good enough not to bother you or give me headaches and it hard to put your finger on it, but it just feels right. I really like the seven inch form factor and I have found usages that I never even thought I would use. I loaded it up with emulators and it is perfect for those and about the only thing I really missed on my Xoom and Prime. Also I still have my OTG micro usb to USB cable I bought for my Xoom (I knew I kept it for a reason) and I can use it to hook up a PS3 controller to it and map the keys for emulators. It is great. One more thing I noticed as well. Loving my iPad means that I take it with me everywhere including work. I was always worried about dropping it or getting it stolen and it is kind of expensive. The Nexus 7 on the other hand is small (even fits in my back pocket or cargo shorts), easy to carry, and best of all is cheap enough that if I lost it or it was stolen I could recoup my losses and/or get me another one. Sure there are times at work on break or something that I wish I had my iPad, but the Nexus 7 does its job so well I often dont really care. I also rely heavily on a few apps like Dropbox, Twitter, and especially Evernote and the 7 inch form factor works excellent for all three and I am in sync with my iPad, Nexus 7, Macbook Pro, iPhone 4S, and Galaxy Nexus no matter where I am. Do yourself a favor and order one you wont regret it.
Whoah what a read...lol. Since you're so forthright I have to ask, exactly what kinds of tablet optimized apps are out there for iOS that aren't available for android? I'm interested myself since I had an iPad 2 that I gave to my wife in order to get an android tab for myself because I felt too restricted in what I could do with the iPad. I was looking for more work related things at the time (corporate email support, pdf editing, file level browsing, flash drive support etc.). It took a while but I understand there are now good PDF editing apps for iOS which there weren't a year or so ago. I'm kinda wondering now if there are things that would swing me back the other way, or at the very least things I should recommend to my wife.
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Got all 3 - Just sold on my ipad, glad to see the back of it. Just way too much hassle, all that itunes messing about.
Nexus 7 so far looking good.
Hey guys my mind are messing with me, I'm so confused I had android since 2009 and now I'm thinking switching to iPhone 6+ bigger screen, I had all mobiles from HTC to Samsung, I'm afride If I'm going to buy note 4 it will be laggy on touchwiz plus they never update there phone, look at iPhone they update there iPhone 4 and it 4 years old, what do you think is this note 4 gonna be better choice?
Hey guys my mind are messing with me, I'm so confused I had android since 2009 and now I'm thinking switching to iPhone 6+ bigger screen, I had all mobiles from HTC to Samsung, I'm afride If I'm going to buy note 4 it will be laggy on touchwiz plus they never update there phone, look at iPhone they update there iPhone 4 and it 4 years old, what do you think is this note 4 gonna be better choice?
Don't get me wrong I am not fan of company, I just buy what deserves to be bought and fits my requirement, but iphone 6+ is not worth the money that's for sure, you might buy it only if you're a big fool and love to show off an expensive sh*t to your friends, better go with Note 4. And what makes you call touchwiz laggy? I had the Note 3 I never saw any touchwiz lag and with new gen of touchwiz it should be butter smooth, tho I can be wrong as I haven't used the new touchwiz just yet but I feel it will be smooth and Samsung does updates their phone, rest your choice.
Stay with Android. Trust me.
If you're thinking about gettibg a iPhone 6 why not consider a nexus 4. ???
Stay with android. After Android L update you will get speed boost.
If they weren't so grossly overpriced (over $1000 with tax for the highest range 6+, I mean come on), I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the new iPhones. For pretty much everyone I know, their lackluster specs are all they really need. But seeing as how you're on XDA, the Note 4 is without question the better option.
I bought the 6+ and note 3 and to be honest it actually sucks. I have had iphones and note series from day 1.
The 6+ feels cheap. the siftware has issues. Not all of them are optimized so it feels like when the ipad was released. Apps looked zoomed in. I will get rid of this and get a note for sure. It just has so much more to offer than the iphone.
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If they weren't so grossly overpriced (over $1000 with tax for the highest range 6+, I mean come on), I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the new iPhones. For pretty much everyone I know, their lackluster specs are all they really need. But seeing as how you're on XDA, the Note 4 is without question the better option.
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I don't care about phones getting dropped from updates after a couple years for a couple reasons. First off old devices on new software (I'm speaking about iOS) run like a bag of ****. My sister is using my old 4 and it runs like garbage. Secondly most people don't keep a phone for more then 2 years anyway so updates become irrelevant.
iPhones are great if you don't mind paying a premium for outdated hardware on a platform that is always behind Android. Apple does provide a fantastic warranty though, I'll give them that. Granted my S3 has never had issues and in my circle iPhones seem to be more problematic (that may not mean anything though).
For me Android is about flexibility and features that are years ahead of anything on an iPhone (for the most part). I'm patiently waiting to replace my aging S3 with a Note 4 because I believe it is the best phone of 2014.
If you get the 6+, all you see is a bigger screen, no more no less, now even with the big screen the quality is still not compare to the note4. The note4 which I have read many reviews, they all stated that it has zero lags (using snapdragon chip instead of Exynos) and the more you're going to use the phone, you will appreciate all the new features of the note4, like wide angle front camera, super smooth Spen, mutitask/multiscreen. Multitask/multiscreen is a big deal for me, imagine, while you on the phone talking, you could search the web, looking for something, circle it open messager, paste and send. Basically you could open multiple apps and flip through them like on your PC. Iphone is way lack of multitasking (none), this is one feature where note 4 is on the top. Now you should ask yourself, with the iphone beside a bigger screen what else can you do???
I thought about the 6+... no I actually stayed up, pre-ordered, but cancelled it. While 6+ is a very nice phone, I am pretty sure the next iOS update will cripple it. Apple is pushing for software optimization while staying 1GB of RAM, I have to say it is enough for now, but higher screen resolution and richer multimedia content will push the it to the limit, doesn't matter how they freeze the app while it is in background, the next time you relaunch it, it will restart the app instead of resuming it, the same problem we saw with earlier Windows Phone. The next version of iOS might even be more useful (common Apple, give us default app option, and lock screen rotation per app), I will stick with Note 4 for this year around.
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If you get the 6+, all you see is a bigger screen, no more no less, now even with the big screen the quality is still not compare to the note4. The note4 which I have read many reviews, they all stated that it has zero lags (using snapdragon chip instead of Exynos) and the more you're going to use the phone, you will appreciate all the new features of the note4, like wide angle front camera, super smooth Spen, mutitask/multiscreen. Multitask/multiscreen is a big deal for me, imagine, while you on the phone talking, you could search the web, looking for something, circle it open messager, paste and send. Basically you could open multiple apps and flip through them like on your PC. Iphone is way lack of multitasking (none), this is one feature where note 4 is on the top. Now you should ask yourself, with the iphone beside a bigger screen what else can you do???
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I agree on that Sir, but I'm just tired of touchwiz being laggy and they don't support there phone like apple do, I've heard that google gonna take over the update for all android let's hope it true but again am 95% of buying the note and the 5% is the annoying 6+
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Stay with android. After Android L update you will get speed boost.
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We can bet on that the L only coming for note 5 and s6 it always like that on Samsung devices
I got the iPhone 6, not the + but I saw it in store today. Although it's a nice phone the note 4 is the better device without a doubt. Just put the hype aside, you'll see that the note is the clear winner.
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The Note 4 was my next phone of choice. I have now seen the Plus. Tbh these phones offer a different user experience. One is not necessarily better than the other. There are features on both that are unique. It really is a difficult call. I want to see evidence of both cameras in use. Not available yet. And full features of both. But features versus user experiences are two different things.
saifullah90 said:
I agree on that Sir, but I'm just tired of touchwiz being laggy and they don't support there phone like apple do, I've heard that google gonna take over the update for all android let's hope it true but again am 95% of buying the note and the 5% is the annoying 6+
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Touchwiz on note4 is super smooth, no lags based on all the review I read. The beauty with Android is ton of options/customization, you always can just pick another launcher ) , throw in another feature to convince you - super charge 0-50% in 30min and super power saving mode give you 2 more days with only10% battery capacity left. The list just goes on and on...BTW, I believe Android L will be on note 4 when it released. Based on the history, the S3 which is 2 generation old and it's running on kitkat right now, so I'm sure Android L will be on the note 4.
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Touchwiz on note4 is super smooth, no lags based on all the review I read. The beauty with Android is ton of options/customization, you always can just pick another launcher ) , throw in another feature to convince you - super charge 0-50% in 30min and super power saving mode give you 2 more days with only10% battery capacity left. The list just goes on and on...BTW, I believe Android L will be on note 4 when it released. Based on the history, the S3 which is 2 generation old and it's running on kitkat right now, so I'm sure Android L will be on the note 4.
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Touchwiz will lag. It always has, and always will. That's not to say that the note 4 won't be great.. Samsung just adds so many useless features, and makes the ui look trashy.... So it weighs down the interface. I'm ecstatic with what the note 4 brings, and the fact that it releases on my birthday.. Happy birthday to me!! Ha! Also, L may not come to the Note 4. It takes Samsung too long to catch up to Google with firmware.. And then you have carriers that get their grubby hands on it. If it comes? Awesome! Just means it needs more optimization.. Cuz art
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they did a camera test ip6/+ vs S5 and the s5 won ,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNAHv-E1HWU
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Hey guys my mind are messing with me, I'm so confused I had android since 2009 and now I'm thinking switching to iPhone 6+ bigger screen, I had all mobiles from HTC to Samsung, I'm afride If I'm going to buy note 4 it will be laggy on touchwiz plus they never update there phone, look at iPhone they update there iPhone 4 and it 4 years old, what do you think is this note 4 gonna be better choice?
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Yeah well these are pro Android forums so...
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I would get G3 ?
Dunno were to post this but here goes..
This post is targeted at people that are thinking of getting an iPhone 6 plus instead of an Note 4
I consider myself a demanding picky hard core user..
I hate lag.. I notice it straight away.. delay and unresponsiveness drives me crazy.. I've always owned Samsung devices since the Galaxy S 1. and as much as I loved the OMLED's on Galaxy devices.. I always overclocked or modified. I did everything to make the device run as smoothly as possible.. (Like all of us here on XDA )
So far my old Note 2 running a heavily modified rom, ran wonderfully.. When the Note 3 was announced I had to get it.. The first thing I noticed with the phone was the screen throttling.. IT DROVE ME CRAZY! .. well suffice to say with firmware upgrades and tweaking.. that minimized.. lagging and multitasking delays improved immensely with time as firmware matured. I eventually settled with it's lag and delays because I love the flexibility of android & my 5.7inch screen..
That was until the iPhone6+ was announced.. I immediately remembered posts from iSheeple as to how smooth iOS is and how well crafted and great the Apps are..
I was bedazzled at the magical announcement.. and jumped ship as soon as the pre-order was up..
I got the iPhone 6+ on the 19th and bought a case. I quickly upgraded my 2014 Macbook Air to Yosemite (GM) the following week so that I could use call hand off and and all the magical interoperability promised by apple.. I changed all my contacts to iCloud and embraced the apple Eco-system.
anyway.. I'm not going to bash Yosemite because it's in Beta.. but man.. let me just say.. iOS8.0.2 ? what a piece of crap!
Continuous lag, freezing, stuttering, rotation problems. keyboard freezes (sometimes I'll have to wait for 5min to finish inputting a text) .. things like facetime calls ringing out upside down?? .. SCREEN THROTTLING !!!! NNNOOO stuff this.. I can't do this again especially after I've let apple put restrictions on me with stupid iTunes.
there's so much I can go on with like my Macbook not auto connecting to the iPhone hotspot unless I enter the setting menu.. the reachability feature is stupid.. I missed the back button. 1gig of Ram? Can people say Browser refresh?
Don't believe the hype.. iCrap aint the answer.. I'm not a fanboy I just want a usable feature filled phone and I'm willing to pay for it.
I've said enough.. any questions I'll happily accommodate. I'm getting my Note 4 in 4 days.. can't wait..
Now if you excuse me I'm going to make a profit on Selling my iPhone 6+ on eBay to the iSheeple
Hahaha good review of iPhone 6+ and iOS8.
Wecome aboard the Note 4 train, I hope you find it better than the iPhone. I know I can't wait for mine, been visiting the nearby Samsung Store every day to play around with the Note 4 on display lol.
Hey Bro.
Have you noticed any screen throttling? can you push it hard for me and see if it dims please.
I only played around with it for like 5-10 minutes a time, playing with brightness (they set it to Max, not Auto), tried dimming, Auto, tested the S Pen, etc. So far nothing lagged, nothing weird happening on the screen, and it was running Snapdragon.
If you want to have something tested, better head to DelBoy's thread, he's accepting people's tests requests on his Note 4.
Hahhhahaha....
I hated Only two things on iPhone 6+
1. Reachability
(What is this? Nothing in it except lowered screen. If you copies 5.5 inch screen trend, then copy One Handed Mode like samsung as well...sammy is not a sue machine like you )
2. 1 GB RAM (Is it joke!!!...or is it spice, karbon or other chinese brand)
(No mater how well crafted your UI is, but nowadays 2 GB ram is mandatory for 1080p screens)
Compare both things with Note 4
You will say f**** Ass-ple!
I phone 6 and + should be compared with Android One
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Reachability is a magical feature.. what a joke..
I have an iPhone 6 64GB and I'm really considering getting rid of it, and going back to Android.
As mentioned iOS 8.0.2 is a disaster.
Alot of apps still haven't been updated to the new screen sizes so looked blurry.
My iPhone 6 came out of a box with a full length hairline scratch across the top of screen, that Apple won't change it as it classed as cosmetic even though it came out of the box like this.... they think i did it :/, other's are reporting scratched screens aswell as it very easy to scratch the coating on this, I've never yet scratched a screen on my smartphone.
If you are even considering getting an iPhone 6 please don't bother you only be disappointed.
Even with the scratch i could easily make my £619 back if not more.
So i might go back with the S5 while it cheaper and save some money or buy either the Alpha or the Note 4 after i've seen them.
Are you serious or not? I never use Apple before and I dont plan to. But this is one of few times I heard Apple suck. Maybe I should go to the Apple store to check it out.
aahhh the isheep will pay you well for the phone..
let emm have it.. come back like I am..
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Are you serious or not? I never use Apple before and I don't plan to. But this is one of few times I heard Apple suck. Maybe I should go to the Apple store to check it out.
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The thing is.. at the store, things look fine..
It's one of those things were you just have to own the device to know just how rubbish it is..
Don't even bother my friend.. nothing here to see except tears and frustration..
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Are you serious or not? I never use Apple before and I dont plan to. But this is one of few times I heard Apple suck. Maybe I should go to the Apple store to check it out.
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Since iOS 7 they have gone down hill it took till 7.1.2 before everybody was happy with iOS 7, 3 months later we back to square one with iOS 8.
They brought iOS 8.0.1 out that killed both touch ID and reception on the iPhone 6, basically couldn't make a phone call, 8.0.2 fixed that problem but didn't fix the most complained about bugs like slow wifi ect.
I feel it once again take till the end of iOS 8 life before it fully usable where people are happy, then you have to go though it all again with iOS 9.
Once apon a time buying into Apple was a safe buy in both hardware and software, these days they just plagued with problem after problem with both hardware and software, if you ever think life greener on the Apple side then think again.
Android now is the better platform to be on, and I soon think alot of disgruntled Apple fans "not fanboys" will probably be thinking the same now.
One more thing :laugh:
Before we knew about the specs of the iPhone 6 i said on macrumors forums that both the iphone 6 and 6 Plus will only come with 1GB of ram, the amount of abuse i got from the fanboys saying i'm talking ****, it have 2GB
those same people are now saying well it doesn't need 2GB of ram, and are still defending Apple to the bitter end even after all the problems inc the bending iPhone 6 Plus which some are saying it fake & won't belive it really happening :/
well if you want smooth and fast experience you got to try nexus series,I carry nexus 5 now I love it,I jumped from note 2 to nexus 5 last year and still its fast and smooth as on day 1,though the battery life is average..
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well if you want smooth and fast experience you got to try nexus series,I carry nexus 5 now I love it,I jumped from note 2 to nexus 5 last year and still its fast and smooth as on day 1,though the battery life is average..
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I owned the Nexus 5 and I hated the screen and battery life. It was fast and smooth of course without a doubt. The camera was also meh. Not horrible but not great either.
For me, I would rather have the awesome AMOLED that the S5 and Note 4 provide, better battery life and deal with a half second delay here and there.
None Bias review from 2swizzle....
I just sold my note 3 and got the iphone 6 plus.. I did it because I got it for a steal of a deal, Note 3 +200 for iphone 6+ 64gb.. I knew the resale value would be greater of the iphone 6+ and easier to sell. The iphone is a an awesome phone, the build is solid and it super fast with all the bugs it has in 8.0.2. Also the camera is really nice, you wouldn't think 8mp would take great pictures but it does!!!
With that said, I'm going to buy the note 4 on the 17th, and sale the iphone. I've been in the android world since the sprint evo, before then and after I've had every iphone, ipad, and I program on a macbook retina. The iphone restrictions drive me crazy, I hate itunes, I prefer to drag and drop files of any format to my android devices. I have unlimited data and want my hotspot back(without paying $30 extra). Although I know touchwiz will suck balls, and us in the US probably won't get custom roms now that hashcode has retired. As long as I can get root, I will be happy with the note 4.
Fade777 said:
Dunno were to post this but here goes..
This post is targeted at people that are thinking of getting an iPhone 6 plus instead of an Note 4
I consider myself a demanding picky hard core user..
I hate lag.. I notice it straight away.. delay and unresponsiveness drives me crazy.. I've always owned Samsung devices since the Galaxy S 1. and as much as I loved the OMLED's on Galaxy devices.. I always overclocked or modified. I did everything to make the device run as smoothly as possible.. (Like all of us here on XDA )
So far my old Note 2 running a heavily modified rom, ran wonderfully.. When the Note 3 was announced I had to get it.. The first thing I noticed with the phone was the screen throttling.. IT DROVE ME CRAZY! .. well suffice to say with firmware upgrades and tweaking.. that minimized.. lagging and multitasking delays improved immensely with time as firmware matured. I eventually settled with it's lag and delays because I love the flexibility of android & my 5.7inch screen..
That was until the iPhone6+ was announced.. I immediately remembered posts from iSheeple as to how smooth iOS is and how well crafted and great the Apps are..
I was bedazzled at the magical announcement.. and jumped ship as soon as the pre-order was up..
I got the iPhone 6+ on the 19th and bought a case. I quickly upgraded my 2014 Macbook Air to Yosemite (GM) the following week so that I could use call hand off and and all the magical interoperability promised by apple.. I changed all my contacts to iCloud and embraced the apple Eco-system.
anyway.. I'm not going to bash Yosemite because it's in Beta.. but man.. let me just say.. iOS8.0.2 ? what a piece of crap!
Continuous lag, freezing, stuttering, rotation problems. keyboard freezes (sometimes I'll have to wait for 5min to finish inputting a text) .. things like facetime calls ringing out upside down?? .. SCREEN THROTTLING !!!! NNNOOO stuff this.. I can't do this again especially after I've let apple put restrictions on me with stupid iTunes.
there's so much I can go on with like my Macbook not auto connecting to the iPhone hotspot unless I enter the setting menu.. the reachability feature is stupid.. I missed the back button. 1gig of Ram? Can people say Browser refresh?
Don't believe the hype.. iCrap aint the answer.. I'm not a fanboy I just want a usable feature filled phone and I'm willing to pay for it.
I've said enough.. any questions I'll happily accommodate. I'm getting my Note 4 in 4 days.. can't wait..
Now if you excuse me I'm going to make a profit on Selling my iPhone 6+ on eBay to the iSheeple
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Kind of hard to give ios a fare shake when you go in full of preconceived notions, wouldn't you say?
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Kind of hard to give ios a fare shake when you go in full of preconceived notions, wouldn't you say?
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I agree totally. :highfive: I've had about every high end Android phone over the last couple of years. I sold my G3 and purchased the 6 Plus. It really is a great phone and iOS 8 is fantastic, but I also have the Note 4 on preorder. It was a hard decision, but the 6 Plus was returned tonight. The difference in the screen and multitasking were the death of the 6 Plus for me.
It's also hard to take someone seriously when they're calling people names just because they prefer an OS that isn't they're favorite. IMO they lose all credibility.
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The only preconceived notions I had were directed by my experiance with my wife's phone and according to my post. All the wonderfull magical posts on other sites regarding the smoothness and the responsiveness of iOS. So my notions were nothing but positive.
That said. iOS 8.0.2 is absolute trash. And with the time I've spend on IOS forums I'd say that a vast majoraty of iOS users are frustrated at apples lack of testing.
There is nothing great about the phone. Nothing revolutionary. Nothing but playing catch up with Samsung. I've given it more then a fair shake. Considering the limitations imposed by to the hardware and the end user the utter frustration using iOS in its current form is crazy.
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I agree totally. :highfive: I've had about every high end Android phone over the last couple of years. I sold my G3 and purchased the 6 Plus. It really is a great phone and iOS 8 is fantastic, but I also have the Note 4 on preorder. It was a hard decision, but the 6 Plus was returned tonight. The difference in the screen and multitasking were the death of the 6 Plus for me.
It's also hard to take someone seriously when they're calling people names just because they prefer an OS that isn't they're favorite. IMO they lose all credibility.
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Who did I call names
Are you telling me that there's no such group of people that exist that may be labeled as brand loyalists?
People that will cling to an system even though its superseded by another feature rich system?
People that can't see other solutions becasue they're one eyed FANS. :cyclops:
people that will happily pay me $200 AU MORE for a phone just because it's an iPhone?
iSheep that's what you call those people..
I'm hoping to test out the Note 4 soon as well. I got to have a run on the Iphone 6 though. It was a friends device so I couldn't spend excessive amount of time on it.
Test day 1: Found it very laggy even though there was hardly anything on it. Spent about 2hours on it all and all and told my friend I'll look into solutions for the buggy behaviour of the phone. Couldn't recommend any solutions, I'm not familiar with iPhones, Android guy myself.
Test day 2: Unfortunately I couldn't test the device on day 2 as my friend, out of frustration and anger, hours before I arrived, tossed the phone to pieces against the wall. He was on headache meds and sounded like a sailor gone to war with all the F bombs he dropped.
I lightened his mood a bit by suggesting that he rather get the Nexus 4 as it has similar features.
Will report back when I get the chance to test the Note 4.
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Having used the 5S for more than a year, I decided to get the 6 Plus. I found that phone very uncomfortable to hold, unlike the Note series. I will be blunt though, the return factor was mostly the horrible lag throughout the UI. Very un Apple like. I am glad I have not upgraded my 5S to 8. It's THAT bad. I then ordered the 6 as I read it was better. WRONG. The lag is still there. Its awful. So I'm like why did I spend all this $$$ on a device that only gives me a larger screen??? Totally NOT worth the horrible price tag.
So yea thats my experience. I like devices that work. I may hold onto my 5S for a while, I don't know. I'll have to check out the Note 4, but it looks promising.
Oh and yeah its funny how all the iSheep pretend their devices are perfect and run so smoothly. Yeah.
Hey guys,
I've been an Android guy since the Desire HD days, (2010), but before that I had an iPhone. My switch to Android was mainly for the freedom of thinkering, customizing things to my needs and because by that time, devices where usually cheaper.
I have been seriously considering switching back to iPhone, (6s+) specifically, as I feel that in the last years iOS has advanced, as well as Android, greatly.
I buy Nexus devices for the clean Google Android experience, and fast transparent updates with no carrier OEM interaction.
This whole N update has been a disaster IMO, and I'm reluctant to buy a 6p (I'm always one year behind) thinking the same thing will probably happen to it with the Android 8 update. And I always feel as I have to make compromises with my Nexus devices, like the bad camera (IMO) for the N6, or lag after a few days, or the HORRIBLE touch issues on my 2013 Nexus 7 (which I still love).
Not sure if I could handle the change though, will give my wife's iPhone a spin when it receives iOS 10 today.
Any thoughts?
My thoughts:
N6 and iPhone are very good phones.
Choice is personal.
Disadvantage of the iPhone is the price.
NLBeev said:
My thoughts:
N6 and iPhone are very good phones.
Choice is personal.
Disadvantage of the iPhone is the price.
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Thanks for the reply, though it seems that the price difference gets smaller each time as the Pixel XL is rumored to cost $649, and the 7s Plus 32GB costs $769.
Honestly not a huge difference, more so when you take in to account that iPhones tend to resale for more (at least here in the states)
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This whole N update has been a disaster IMO, and I'm reluctant to buy a 6p (I'm always one year behind) thinking the same thing will probably happen to it with the Android 8 update. And I always feel as I have to make compromises with my Nexus devices, like the bad camera (IMO) for the N6, or lag after a few days, or the HORRIBLE touch issues on my 2013 Nexus 7 (which I still love).
Not sure if I could handle the change though, will give my wife's iPhone a spin when it receives iOS 10 today.
Any thoughts?
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It has been, but this fall is not good for updates, or for judging by updates:
https://www.engadget.com/2016/09/13/ios-10-update-bricked-my-iphone/
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.....difference gets smaller each time as the Pixel XL is rumored to cost $649, and the 7s Plus 32GB costs $769.
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Right but..., we pay to much.
The design of the iPhones is superior.
Imo that's the reason why people are so happy to pay the high price.
When we look further.... We have here publications that Apple is fined to pay 13 billion euro. They pay 0,005% taxes instead of 30%.
Apple-like companies are stealing from the community, they use infrastructure etc for free.
Maybe you need a brief break from Android, as i might it is really a personal decision versus specs.
In my opinion, it isn't such a great time to upgrade yet, I honestly wanted to upgrade to the OnePlus 3 but alas, it's GSM only so its bands don't support Verizon. Then I was looking towards the Galaxy Note 7 and was thinking about upgrading, but then the whole battery explosion fiasco happened. Now the iPhone 7 came out and I wasn't amazed one bit. Keep in mind I used to have iPhones since the 3G lineup, but the customization capabilities were so stale and weak so I switched over to Android on the Galaxy S5, never looked back.
If I am to upgrade anytime this year it's going to have to be a "Pixel" device and they're going to have to wow me, otherwise I think I'll hang onto my N6 for another year, still an amazing device
I wouldn't get the 6p, since it is snapdragon 810. Frankly, the 6's 805 is a better chip.
Not sure the reason for the panic about the update, it has only been a few days. They've been adding one device at a time, presumably to let the dust settle on the latest device before moving on to the next one. 6p was the most recent to get the update, only one remaining now is the 6.
The next ones (named pixel instead of nexus?) will be snapdragon 820 or 821, which is finally a good 64bit chip from QC.
IMO the ZTE Axon 7 is the best bang for the buck right now. Flagship specs and all the latest features for $400. You could sell your Nexus 6 for $150-$200 to help offset the cost.
Thanks for the input everyone.
Gave my wife's 6s+ a spin, and it would be a pretty big change. Going to think about it for a while and see. Depending on the Pixel lineup I will choose.
Thanks again!
The one benefit of Android is we're really starting to get great phones at a bargain price, something that will never happen to iOS. For instance, my wife got the Amazon-version of the Moto G4 for $125 and it's a pretty amazing phone. Not stock android, and who knows about updates, but it's a great phone for the price.
I'm going to have a lot of trouble upgrading to anything that costs over $300. I'm disappointed that the upcoming Pixel phones are going to be in the Samsung/Apple price range, as opposed to ~$300-400.
After my Nexus 6, I'm considering staying a year behind. Upgrade to a 6p or 5x. Stay in the ecosystem, get the Google updates, get a faster phone but not pay leading-edge prices.
I have three things that keep me from going iPhone and one of them is something I can overlook. I need to have access to the file structure and use my phone as a USB drive. I also need to have the ability to send ANY file to another person via email, like zip files or different image formats like .tiff. The iPhone email restrictions are a deal breaker to me. I also hate having every app on the main screen all of the time, but I can live without it. I'm heavily invested in the Google system, but I'd give that up too.
An iPhone for 99% of people is a solid choice, it's just a fact. But guess what? Android is a solid choice as well. But things like OEM induced OS fragmentation and carrier interference make it a bit less desirable, but Nexus is the way a fix for that. I have to say if they get rid of Nexus devices and get rid of the ability to root (I love ad blocking at the system level) I may have to go iPhone as well.
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Right but..., we pay to much.
The design of the iPhones is superior.
Imo that's the reason why people are so happy to pay the high price.
When we look further.... We have here publications that Apple is fined to pay 13 billion euro. They pay 0,005% taxes instead of 30%.
Apple-like companies are stealing from the community, they use infrastructure etc for free.
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The design is superior except of the fact the iPhone 6 and above bend super easy. I work for a cell repair shop and about half of them are bent when they come in for a screen replacement or any other service. We also have a lot of bad batteries come in, and they get so bloated that they push up the screen. But I guess it is better to bloat than explode like the note 7 lol
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The design is superior except of the fact the iPhone 6 and above bend super easy. I work for a cell repair shop and about half of them are bent when they come in for a screen replacement or any other service. We also have a lot of bad batteries come in, and they get so bloated that they push up the screen. But I guess it is better to bloat than explode like the note 7 lol
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Apple *invented* exploding batteries.... (yep, they should feel free to actually take credit for this one)
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/more-exploding-iphones/
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The one benefit of Android is we're really starting to get great phones at a bargain price, something that will never happen to iOS. For instance, my wife got the Amazon-version of the Moto G4 for $125 and it's a pretty amazing phone. Not stock android, and who knows about updates, but it's a great phone for the price.
I'm going to have a lot of trouble upgrading to anything that costs over $300. I'm disappointed that the upcoming Pixel phones are going to be in the Samsung/Apple price range, as opposed to ~$300-400.
After my Nexus 6, I'm considering staying a year behind. Upgrade to a 6p or 5x. Stay in the ecosystem, get the Google updates, get a faster phone but not pay leading-edge prices.
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Well I enjoy being on the bleeding edge, that is why I bought Nexus and put up with the shortcomings of Nexus, but the way Google has handled N for the N6 leaves a really bad taste. I know it sounds picky but we buy Nexus for the often mentioned Google updates. Not a fan of the 6p but I'm seriosly considering it, maybe I'll get it during Black Friday.
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I have three things that keep me from going iPhone and one of them is something I can overlook. I need to have access to the file structure and use my phone as a USB drive. I also need to have the ability to send ANY file to another person via email, like zip files or different image formats like .tiff. The iPhone email restrictions are a deal breaker to me. I also hate having every app on the main screen all of the time, but I can live without it. I'm heavily invested in the Google system, but I'd give that up too.
An iPhone for 99% of people is a solid choice, it's just a fact. But guess what? Android is a solid choice as well. But things like OEM induced OS fragmentation and carrier interference make it a bit less desirable, but Nexus is the way a fix for that. I have to say if they get rid of Nexus devices and get rid of the ability to root (I love ad blocking at the system level) I may have to go iPhone as well.
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Well, I've found that I can pretty much replace/cover all my needs with Apple Apps. Also, from using my wife's iPhone, I agree with those who say that the Google experience is actually better in iOS now. They even have features/apps we don't have :silly:
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The design is superior except of the fact the iPhone 6 and above bend super easy. I work for a cell repair shop and about half of them are bent when they come in for a screen replacement or any other service. We also have a lot of bad batteries come in, and they get so bloated that they push up the screen. But I guess it is better to bloat than explode like the note 7 lol
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Lol, A sturdy case fixes the bending and a battery change fixes the bloating. Nothing fixes a burnt phone, you are right.
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Apple *invented* exploding batteries.... (yep, they should feel free to actually take credit for this one)
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/more-exploding-iphones/
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Lol
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Well I enjoy being on the bleeding edge, that is why I bought Nexus and put up with the shortcomings of Nexus, but the way Google has handled N for the N6 leaves a really bad taste. I know it sounds picky but we buy Nexus for the often mentioned Google updates. Not a fan of the 6p but I'm seriosly considering it, maybe I'll get it during Black Friday.
Well, I've found that I can pretty much replace/cover all my needs with Apple Apps. Also, from using my wife's iPhone, I agree with those who say that the Google experience is actually better in iOS now. They even have features/apps we don't have :silly:
Lol, A sturdy case fixes the bending and a battery change fixes the bloating. Nothing fixes a burnt phone, you are right.
Lol
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Unfortunately most people have cases that look nice, but have very little protection.
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Unfortunately most people have cases that look nice, but have very little protection.
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Well I believe that it depends on the person, I can use a phone without case and it won't have issues, still I use a pretty slim one that provide very little protection.
My wife on the other hand, needs to have her phone encased in an almost military grade cover, my kid the same.
There are just people who take a little bit more care of their phones, or just give it a lot more value, for others it's just another tool so if it falls it falls.
I had the note 7. I tried to like it. I like the camera a lot. But I'm sitting at best buy right now returning the note 7. I knew going into the note 7 that TW was a memory hog but I tried to like it. After using it for a couple of weeks and used my N6 again, I couldn't believe how much quicker everything felt. So here I am, back to the N6, I'll be on the look out for the pixel phones.
Since price and OEM practices of apple arent an issue for you, get an iphone.
iphones are targeted at a specific demographic and it seems you are part of it.
Gonna resurrect this thread since the Pixel phones just came out. I honestly do not find the Pixel (reg and XL) appealing.
I used a co-workers S6 Edge, and I have to admit, it was pretty nice. I would actually go for the Note 7 since I like the bigger screen (yes, explosion, yes fire, just saying).
Any recommendations?