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Note 8 Question - Snap or Exynos?

Hi there,
This might be done to death but here goes - i currently have a single sim Three (unlocked) that has the exynos chipset, since i go over to the states alot, i want to get myself a dual sim Note 8 so i can use an American number with my UK number without having to annoyingly keep switching over or have 2 different phones.
Obviously dual sim means no microSD, so far i only seen Eqynos variant 64gb but elsewhere seen a Snapdragon variant 128gb which is tons more useful, in real life usage (especially coming from a S7 Edge) will i see much of a difference? Has Snapdragon caught up nowdays?
Also how easy isit without tripping anything that will disable Samsung/Android Pay to flash Carrier (Three) onto my unbranded Note 8? Mainly if i get rid of Three Note 8 phone, i lose access to 4G Super Voice which kinda sucks.
Thanks for the help

Obviously dual sim means no microSD,
Not obviously, you can DIY your SD card, just combine your SIM and SD to one, please do search, it's working well.
Thanks.

I was in the same dilema as uk samsung only sell the 64gb dual sim. Went and bought the 256gb sn9500.... no problems at all. Even using samsung pay without issue.
It is dumb that they won't allow more Ryan 64gb for uk market.
Also using the dual sim and sd card.... is probably a bit risky as the sim tray is so flimsy.
I used dual sim and sd on my axon 7 without issue... but the note 8 i think will be a bit risky.
Sent from my SM-N9500 using Tapatalk

which variant to buy?

I'm considering buying the note 8 but in terms of community support which version (if any) is better supported or is it to early to tell?
My last phone was the S5 - SM G900i and while it was good most roms were generally made for the f variant. the f variant roms worked ok but always caused issues with nfc which i could work around generally by disabling nfc. I'd like to avoid that situation this time around and I plan on keeping this phone for a few years.

Gialandon said:
I'm considering buying the note 8 but in terms of community support which version (if any) is better supported or is it to early to tell?
My last phone was the S5 - SM G900i and while it was good most roms were generally made for the f variant. the f variant roms worked ok but always caused issues with nfc which i could work around generally by disabling nfc. I'd like to avoid that situation this time around and I plan on keeping this phone for a few years.
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Exynos single sim in general gets the most... but can you disclose where do you live? As that would be major factor.... if Europe then UK unlocked model brings theglory in general...aka exynos single sim.

The 950F and 950N are identical hardware, but all the ROMs are being developed with the F firmware base, which seems to be set up as dual SIM at the software level (F contains the dual SIM RIL libraries while the N does not).
Right now the only real consideration between those two is internal storage since I think the 256gb model is only available as N variant.
The HK 256gb is Snapdragon.

Hunteres said:
Exynos single sim in general gets the most... but can you disclose where do you live? As that would be major factor.... if Europe then UK unlocked model brings theglory in general...aka exynos single sim.
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I live in New Zealand. The most common variants ive seen are the sm-g9500, sm-g950f and the sm-g950fd. There are also some usa sm-g950u available through eBay.
Of these the fd variant is the cheapest and fairly easy to import. Local version seem to the f and 9500 but the local versions are generally about $400 more expensive.
I am not to worried about importing and the warranty issues. I've never had hardware issues with Samsung phones and even if I did I'd get it repaired locally and it would still be cheaper.

For the US versions, does the unlocked version and carrier versions all have the same amount of support for bands as I heard the hardware was all the same and it's just the software that is different on the carrier variants. Basically, if one uses Verizon Wireless, can one purchase the T-Mobile or the unlocked model or even the Verizon Wireless model of the Note8 and have the same bands enabled on the phone so it works well when traveling using a pre-paid SIM or is the unlocked model going to offer more band support as it seems Samsung doesn't list the actual band support on the models.

Will the korean Note 9 (N960N) work in Germany?

Hi guys,
i want to order in a few days the blue note 9 from wondamobile and was asking myself, if there may be any issues using a south korean note 9 in germany.
I'll post other questions related to the note 9 when i have time but first of all i want to swap from a crappy SM-T555 to the N960N because of the high storage and the higher amount of RAM. the tablet is a substitute to my broken Note 4.
Like i asked in the title, will the korean note 9 work in germany?
another few informations for you:
- i'm a power user, so i do a lot with the note 9, almost replacing a computer with it
- it will be rooted, stock rom with kernel patch(es) like on the note 4
- i want to use it with dex [i used the note 4 with a docking station and SEAndroid with permissive mode + a 8 TB HDD (1 TB ext4 and ~6,3 TB NTFS)]
- connect other peripherals like bluetooth speaker, cable mouse and keyboard
- using LAN connection (if possible with stock firmware)
feel free to ask me about other information you think are relevant!
Alex

I have Note 7 Fan Edition used strictly for Korean market, bought directly from South Korea, and I was successfully using it on AT&T in USA, and now I am using it on Vodafone network in Czech republic without any problems. I would say that you will have no problems using Note 9 in Europe.

You will have no problems using the N960N in Germany. As it is a GSM device, however you may have issues using it in the US as the majority of US Cell Providers operate on the CDMA band.

iceepyon said:
You will have no problems using the N960N in Germany. As it is a GSM device, however you may have issues using it in the US as the majority of US Cell Providers operate on the CDMA band.
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Why don't you give the CDMA in the US B.S. a rest,YOU ARE WRONG on that point.
Yes, CDMA exists in the US,but,the overwhelming majority of traffic is via GSM/LTE,.....................CDMA is well on its way out.
The biggest US CMDA provider is VZW & 92% of their traffic/usage is LTE NOT CDMA.....................
If you lived &/or worked in the US ,you'd realize that.

@Purah
Why don't you buy a SM-N960F model (International Version)?

as far i know the F variants are either 128 gb single sim or 512 gb dual sim. i want a 512 gb single sim and thats why i want the N960N.

Purah said:
as far i know the F variants are either 128 gb single sim or 512 gb dual sim. i want a 512 gb single sim and thats why i want the N960N.
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Gotta ask:
Why not just get the F version in Dual SIM & 512GB?
It's not as if you have to use the 2nd slot.
At 1st glance on eBay (US), there's not many of what you're looking for & they (Single SIM) are actually more expensive than the Dual SIM models.
Just in case you weren't aware, the 2nd SIM Slot is hybrid, it can be used as an SD Card slot. That's either/or, the 2nd slot only holds one or the other at a time.
Sent from my SM-N960U using XDA Labs

thank you, i didn't realize that the 2nd slot can be used as a hybrid!
i forgot to mention that i will use a sd card. at the moment i have a 128 gb sd card.
so the N960N costs £ 699 at wonda mobile. i'll look through prices and then lets see which model i'll take.
again thank you for the information about the second slot!
edit: does the N960N have a sd card slot?

Purah said:
thank you, i didn't realize that the 2nd slot can be used as a hybrid!
i forgot to mention that i will use a sd card. at the moment i have a 128 gb sd card.
so the N960N costs £ 699 at wonda mobile. i'll look through prices and then lets see which model i'll take.
again thank you for the information about the second slot!
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Other than what's already been discussed (single/dual SIM), is there a particular reason for getting the Korean version?
(BTW, single SIM models have an SD Card slot, it's just not hybrid).
The F, FD (F D/S), & N models all have the Exynos processor. LTE Band support for you should be equal.
My apologies if I'm coming across as nit-picking, but, I'm sure you can find a good price on an F or FD (F D/S, same as FD, just stated differently on some listings) that has firmware specific to your area.
Reason I suggest that is Samsung Pay. In a good number of instances, some region specific models don't play nice in that regard, or, requires a bank card from the region to be registered to Samsung Pay.
IE:Korean Note 9 needs a Korean bank card attached to it to work outside of Korea, etc......
If you plan on root/ROMs, disregard the Samsung Pay statements, it & KNOX are permanently broke once rooted, even if you return to a stock/unrooted state...
Sent from my SM-N960U using XDA Labs

i went for the korean note 9 because of the price and because at that point i didn't knew that there are f variants with 512 gb out there. at the beginning i had to decide between the note 8 and 9 and i haven't found any 256 gb variants for the note 8 except the korean one. but i saw that the note 9 went out and then i decided for this, assuming that there is only a korean note 9 with 512 gb out. apparently i was wrong at that time but i didn't knew better.
in the end i will stick to the korean note 9 because of the price because i can save up to 400 € - 600 €. i checked them and compared between samsung price (~ 1250 €, 512 gb N960F duos variant), reseller price (~ 980 €, 512 gb N960F duos variant too) and the korean price (699 GBP, ~ 715 € + 15 € shipping). it doesn't matter if it's duos or not.
i think that i will root the smartphone. i've never used samsung pay and in germany it's not out yet so losing s pay and knox due to a burned e-fuse is not a problem for me. i prefer to pay with cash.
what i heard about s pay is that your bank has to be a partner with samsung to let it work. so even if you have a foreign bank, you still can use their credit card but you get the ad's from the specific region (in this case korean ads).
besides these two reasons secure folder won't work but i'm not using it too.
what about carrier aggregation? will it work properly if i use a korean note in germany? as far as i know no one has a fix for it atm.

KOLIOSIS said:
Other than what's already been discussed (single/dual SIM), is there a particular reason for getting the Korean version?
(BTW, single SIM models have an SD Card slot, it's just not hybrid).
The F, FD (F D/S), & N models all have the Exynos processor. LTE Band support for you should be equal.
My apologies if I'm coming across as nit-picking, but, I'm sure you can find a good price on an F or FD (F D/S, same as FD, just stated differently on some listings) that has firmware specific to your area.
Reason I suggest that is Samsung Pay. In a good number of instances, some region specific models don't play nice in that regard, or, requires a bank card from the region to be registered to Samsung Pay.
IE:Korean Note 9 needs a Korean bank card attached to it to work outside of Korea, etc......
If you plan on root/ROMs, disregard the Samsung Pay statements, it & KNOX are permanently broke once rooted, even if you return to a stock/unrooted state...
Sent from my SM-N960U using XDA Labs
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Knox triggers only if custom recovery/rom is flashed. It will not trigger if you took other region firmware/ROM and flash it via ODIN as long as it's the samsung original one downloaded from their servers. Tested on my S7e that was MTL (Bulgaria) and I changed it to BTU, before didn't even had samsung pay and it showed on the BTU.

high_voltage said:
Knox triggers only if custom recovery/rom is flashed. It will not trigger if you took other region firmware/ROM and flash it via ODIN as long as it's the samsung original one downloaded from their servers. Tested on my S7e that was MTL (Bulgaria) and I changed it to BTU, before didn't even had samsung pay and it showed on the BTU.
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I'm aware of what triggers Knox,I stated as much.
I just wasn't sure if you can flash F firmware onto an N (Korea) model,hence my recommendation to getting an F model,especially if you live & work in an area where F models are typically sold.
Why bother if you don't have to,that's what I'm getting at. ($$$ savings seems to be the primary factor)
Seems the OP is either set on getting an N model,or,already has......................best of luck to @Purah . :good:

i'm not buying the n960n because i agree with koliosis' concern regarding flashing a F rom on a N device. i think it will be a big hassle or even impossible to do so.
i prefer a device that is usable over saving money and then get stuck with it not being usable at all.
so now i'm looking forward to the 512 gb sd card offer from samsung (here). the device needs to match the model code as well as the EAN code (source) but i'm not sure if i have to buy it at a specific (online) dealer or if i can obtain it at any dealer in germany and only need to ensure that the device has the proper codes on it.
though it's annyoing that the offer goes from 6. november till 20. november because time is really short.
these are the phones that i'd consider to take:
Code:
Product Name | Model Code | Color | Storage | EAN Code
Galaxy Note9 SM-N960FZBHDBT Ocean Blue 512GB 8801643486242
Galaxy Note9 F-SMN960FBHAMZ Ocean Blue 512 GB 8801643601416
[B]Galaxy Note9 SM-N960FZKHDBT Midnight Black 512GB 8801643486013
Galaxy Note9 F-SMN960FKHAMZ Midnight Black 512 GB 8801643601423[/B]
Galaxy Note9 SM-N960FZNHDBT Copper Gold 512GB 8801643486426
Galaxy Note9 SM-N960FZNHDBT Copper Gold 512GB 4043972244016
Galaxy Note9 F-SMN960FNHAMZ Copper Gold 512 GB 8801643629526
do you have anything i should consider before i buy one of these?
i'll wait till thursday/friday and then i'm going to order the phone.
Edit:
after a call at samsung they told me that i can go for every (online) dealer as long as the model code and EAN matches. so now im going for one of the bold ones in the code block . i wrote the dealer i want to purchase the note9 from and sent an email, hoping that they can help me with these numbers.
thank you all so far for helping me, especially koliosis!

so i bought the "Galaxy Note9 SM-N960FZKHDBT Midnight Black 512GB 8801643486013", model and ean codes are matching.
i'd like to know if a transparent case with silicone is better than a transparent one with rubber on the phones' edges and glass on its back.
i would like to take the case with silicone because it apparently should be more slim than the other one.

Question. Where can I find the bands for the N960n?
I'd like to compare bands of the N960N vs the N960U1

CCJ22 said:
Question. Where can I find the bands for the N960n?
I'd like to compare bands of the N960N vs the N960U1
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Samsung Korea website.
Sent from my SM-N960U1 using Tapatalk
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CCJ22 said:
Question. Where can I find the bands for the N960n?
I'd like to compare bands of the N960N vs the N960U1
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Here I did the search for you.. scroll down for radios.
https://www.samsung.com/sec/smartphones/galaxy-note9/specs/
Sent from my SM-N960U1 using Tapatalk

Note 9 Dual SIM version

Is the Galaxy Note 9 Dual SIM version the international version? Confused as on the Samsung UK website it sells the Dual SIM version.
Also as I want to use only the BTU CSC firmware on my Note 9.

benjaminllim said:
Is the Galaxy Note 9 Dual SIM version the international version? Confused as on the Samsung UK website it sells the Dual SIM version.
Also as I want to use only the BTU CSC firmware on my Note 9.
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i purchased my NOTE 9 from Samsung UK website it's a dual sim version they sent me, it's on SAOMC_SM-N60F_OXM_BTU_OO_0029. Build Number M1AJQ.N960FXXS2ARJ4 Yep I thought the SM-N960F is the international version ? I’m sure it is the international variant!
And found this via G Search See Below!
Samsung Galaxy Note 9 SM-N960F/DS
6.4” QHD+ (2960×1440) Super AMOLED 18.5:9, Gorilla Glass 5, HDR 10
6GB RAM + 128GB of storage + MicroSD slot (up to 512GB)
AKG Tuned stereo speakers + 3.5mm headphone jack
12MP variable aperture rear camera + 8MP front camera
Factory Unlocked International Version. This phone will work with most GSM carriers around the world. Does not support CDMA technology (Verizon, Sprint, etc.)

N1NJATH3ORY said:
i purchased my NOTE 9 from Samsung UK website it's a dual sim version they sent me, it's on SAOMC_SM-N60F_OXM_BTU_OO_0029. Build Number M1AJQ.N960FXXS2ARJ4 Yep I thought the SM-N960F is the international version ? I’m sure it is the international variant!
And found this via G Search See Below!
Samsung Galaxy Note 9 SM-N960F/DS
6.4” QHD+ (2960×1440) Super AMOLED 18.5:9, Gorilla Glass 5, HDR 10
6GB RAM + 128GB of storage + MicroSD slot (up to 512GB)
AKG Tuned stereo speakers + 3.5mm headphone jack
12MP variable aperture rear camera + 8MP front camera
Factory Unlocked International Version. This phone will work with most GSM carriers around the world. Does not support CDMA technology (Verizon, Sprint, etc.)
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Ah ok thanks, do you know if the dual version uses the same firmware as the single version?

Yes the single sim N960F and dual sim N960FD versions use the same firmware.
Not all the international versions of the note 9 are dual sim, you have to look for the N960FD version whitch is the dual sim.
By the way international version uses exynos chipset while the north american version uses snapdragon chipset. All snapdragon versions are single sim.
Other asian versions are exynos and also dual sim but you will lickely have problems with radio bands and software bloatware.

dr.guru said:
Yes the single sim N960F and dual sim N960FD versions use the same firmware.
Not all the international versions of the note 9 are dual sim, you have to look for the N960FD version whitch is the dual sim.
By the way international version uses exynos chipset while the north american version uses snapdragon chipset. All snapdragon versions are single sim.
Other asian versions are exynos and also dual sim but you will lickely have problems with radio bands and software bloatware.
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Thanks for the clear up.

benjaminllim said:
Thanks for the clear up.
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There is a Snapdragon Dual-SIM variant (SM-N9600) that can be rooted.
However,if you're in a market to where the Exynos-powered version is the status quo,you're probably better off getting the Exynos version,especially when it comes to using your region/carrier specific CSC/firmware.

KOLIOSIS said:
There is a Snapdragon Dual-SIM variant (SM-N9600) that can be rooted.
However,if you're in a market to where the Exynos-powered version is the status quo,you're probably better off getting the Exynos version,especially when it comes to using your region/carrier specific CSC/firmware.
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I need the Dual SIM version to be the UK one specifically. Also UK models are only Exynos variants.
"Dual SIM options
Samsung manufactures the Galaxy Note 9 in both Single & Hybrid Dual SIM versions. In the UK, Hybrid Dual SIM is only officially available through Samsung directly."

benjaminllim said:
I need the Dual SIM version to be the UK one specifically. Also UK models are only Exynos variants.
"Dual SIM options
Samsung manufactures the Galaxy Note 9 in both Single & Hybrid Dual SIM versions. In the UK, Hybrid Dual SIM is only officially available through Samsung directly."
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All Dual SIM Exynos phones are identical. The only difference is the CSC installed.
The one being sold in the UK is the exact same as the one being sold in Europe, Middle East and Asia.

MeltdownSpectre said:
All Dual SIM Exynos phones are identical. The only difference is the CSC installed.
The one being sold in the UK is the exact same as the one being sold in Europe, Middle East and Asia.
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Different plugs and network bands; any non-UK version will not work with Samsung Pay in the UK.

benjaminllim said:
Different plugs and network bands; any non-UK version will not work with Samsung Pay in the UK.
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Different plugs is what comes in the box.
Network bands are exactly the same, and Samsung Pay is enabled once you insert a UK SIM.
Sent from my SM-N960F

MeltdownSpectre said:
Different plugs is what comes in the box.
Network bands are exactly the same, and Samsung Pay is enabled once you insert a UK SIM.
Sent from my SM-N960F
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I wanted a UK one because of BTU CSC. I managed to get a Dual SIM UK version.

Be aware that if you use two SIMs that you cannot also use an SD card.

Question S21 ultra dual physical sims

Can I put a dual SIM tray into
S21 ultra Australian version

perrystam said:
Can I put a dual SIM tray into
S21 ultra Australian version
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It is supposed to be an Exynos and they usually are Dual sim. However, I have encountered Korean exynos phones with only one sim card. Thus, you need to provide more information so we can give you a more definitive answer...

babyboy3265 said:
It is supposed to be an Exynos and they usually are Dual sim. However, I have encountered Korean exynos phones with only one sim card. Thus, you need to provide more information so we can give you a more definitive answer...
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The phone did come originally with one SIM card and 1 esim I put in a dual sim tray can I get it to read 2 physical sim cards any advice whould be appreciated thank you

Hope this helps

perrystam said:
The phone did come originally with one SIM card and 1 esim I put in a dual sim tray can I get it to read 2 physical sim cards any advice whould be appreciated thank you
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I doubt it bud... Even if the hardware would support it by having the sim tray capability, the software would have to be specifically adjusted for the situation. And seeing how small the alternative development is for the s21 Ultra, I doubt it will get to the point of significant progress..
Some time ago I had gotten a Note 9 from a friend, and since I had an S9+, I thought the note 9 would be a nice upgrade. Only to realize that since it is a Korean Note 9, it only supported 1 SIM. I seeked the internet quite a bit and found nothing relevant. I also asked around the forums but to no avail. Gave the Note to the wife, it replaced her 1 sim S7, so everyone is happy hahaha
If you do find a solution eventually, do remember to write it here, it may surely help others with the same issue as you.
Good luck!

The first step is to check if physically there are 2 sets of contractors to read 2 sim cards but that means to open the phone. Software shouldn't be an issue it handles 2 physical sim in other variants

I bought a dual-sim tray for my S21 Ultra US version - I can confirm that at least the tray fits It wouldn't read my SafariCom sim though :-/

Not sure what model the Australian S21 are but if it ends with the letter B(G998B) then you can try switching the CSC to XTC and try again.
While there's only 1 sim card originally it should still have 2 IMEI numbers because of the e-SIM so logically switching CSCs should work.

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Hope this helps
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SM-G998B is a Single Physical SIM variant with e-Sim. The SM-G998B/DS has Dual Physical SIM's so based on what you've shared the answer is no.

Does the Australian version have any differences?

I believe only the Chinese variant supports two physical dual sims.

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I believe only the Chinese variant supports two physical dual sims.
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The Indian version supports dual physical SIMs too. I'm using them on mine.

I bought mine in Spain and is a SM-G998B/DS and I am using 2 physical Sim cards, both working.

enigmaamit said:
The Indian version supports dual physical SIMs too. I'm using them on mine.
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Indeed. For some reason I thought he wanted a physical dual sim snapdragon variant.