Non root help - Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm looking to make the switch from the iPhone to the note 5. Having AT&T I know I won't be able to root the phone. Trying to do any search with "non root" always brings me to sites for phones with root so I can't seem to track down anything I wanted to know.
So any tips on the following for a NON ROOT USER.
Block ads in browser,YouTube,spotify,pandora and other apps?
Hack apps for iap? (Flex 2,gamegem or iapstore alternative)
Download older versions of apps?
Or know of any other must have apps or tweaks I should have?
If any questions are not allowed please feel free to avoid them.

Phrezy said:
I'm looking to make the switch from the iPhone to the note 5. Having AT&T I know I won't be able to root the phone..
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If you'll be using the AT&T branded Note5, I'd suggest asking your question in the AT&T section here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-note5
AT&T's modifications to the device make it a bit different from the stock device.
As for your IAP questions, are you asking how to get around having to pay for IAP? If so, xda-developers isn't the proper forum for that.
"Must have" stuff: "package disabler pro" is the defacto tool for disabling bloat on the samsung unrooted devices.

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Root apps in market

Ok so I don't have root access because I accidentally hit yes one day but oh well. I'm seeing all these apps coming out for users with root access when i started thinking why if google doesn't want us to have root access do they allow apps in the market specifically for root access users? It makes no sense and is a complete contradiction!
google doesn't mind us having root access, t-mobile minds it, so together with google, they prevent it on the G1... dont link google android with the g1 like that.. google wants us to have root on android to make things better (thats what linux is all about) tmobile wants to block that access.
Not allowing root access prevents people who don't understand linux commands from entering the wrong command thus rendering their phone unusable. These are the people that have the potential to create a nightmare for Tmobile. If you have root access and you know how to use it, then it is not a problem.
We are screwed if we patched our phones basically.
Hopefully these programs will come soon for non-root phones.
driz said:
google doesn't mind us having root access, t-mobile minds it, so together with google, they prevent it on the G1... dont link google android with the g1 like that.. google wants us to have root on android to make things better (thats what linux is all about) tmobile wants to block that access.
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Just putting this out there, when i first got my G1 i rooted it. When t-mobiles app "MyAccount" came out i installed it but it would not load it said this android ver not supported. so i called up tmo for basic support thinking maybe its my account or something. So the rep asked me if i was rooted, i figured what the hell, so i said yes i was rooted and running a hacked rom, they said "ok we would like to support rooted phones as well" they also asked where i got the rom or which one was it, i played dumb on this i just said some made up rom name. so long story short, sure enough a couple weeks later there was an update and the myaccount app worked. I gotta give them credit for that. I was tempted to ask how they feel about wifi tether for root users, lol. i didn't wanna rock the boat.
Root is meant for people who know what they are doing and for developers.

Paid apps in Canada

So it seems like the Android Market paid apps will be a while until it comes to canada, so I was wondering if there is anyone out there (using a g1 in the US on T Mobile) whom I could pay the price of an app, and would be willing to purchase the app, and pass the apk onto me.
Has anyone done this?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=android+market+enabler
Anyone in Canada get this "Market Enabler" to work?
yes i have .....and it works perfectly
Yea... didn't work. It says "doing root stuff" briefly then it says "huston we have a problem" then says "done! "
ARRRRRRRRGH! Yet another reason why our candian devices need ROOT.
Hold on...Don't you need root first of all to even use the Market Enabler application?
is there an option out there for market-enabler for non-root users?
NO there is not Why not just root your phone? Come on it's loads of fun!
Canadian users that got their HTC devices from Rogers (canadian network) cannot as of yet root their htc devices.
Rooting is being worked on at the moment.
alritewhadeva said:
NO there is not Why not just root your phone? Come on it's loads of fun!
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hahah i would definitely do it, if it were possible....theres so much that i CANNOT do on the unrooted that i could previous do with my HTC TYTN2 winmo...sigh

Paid apps can be copied to rooted phones WITHOUT market (re-)validation ...!

Hi,
Until now I had thought REinstalling a closed market app will force a credit card check anyway (to validate that the app had been payed by the user before) ...!
I have just realized that it is possible with rooted phones to backup a closed (paid) market application to SD (PC), then copy it to another (rooted) phone, reinstall WITHOUT market intervention/validation/credit card check, which means to me that theoretically Google's Market Place can be circumnavigated by filesharing ...!
Is this possibly another thorn in Google's flesh to kill Cyanogen before anybody in the world will use a rooted phone to participate? So Cyanogen is only stated an exampel for all the rooted Android ROMs.
The One Click Method (in opposite to the Goldcard Rooting) makes it easy even for kindergarden kids now ... !
Then at least we have become victims of our perfectionism ...!
Regards
It IS possible to do that yes, however if you were installing a paid app on the phone that you do not own and attempt to update it to the latest version, it WILL fail to update to the newest release without charging you for the app first, so be careful. I've always know there were ways to "steal" paid apps using a rooted phone but to be honest I've never been interested in doing so, if I wanted an app bad enough I paid for it like I should have. I am just interested in making a copy of the app I paid for to have for myself in case of all hell breaking loose.
You can do the same on a non rooted phone (iirc)
The market / package installer is really unprotected imo, it needs more protection for devs.
Yeah, this is hardly new, the community have known about this for months.
If you use an app to backup your apps (ASTRO, AppManager, whatver) it simply copies the apk from /data/app to your sdcard so it can be reinstalled at any point. Protected apps are stored in /data/app-private. Apps like those can't copy protected apps (90% or so of paid apps are protected), but if you have root you can copy the apk out of /data/app-private and reinstall.
I realize I've basically given instructions on how to pirate something, that wasn't my intention I was simply trying to clarify. Oh well, I still reckon this post will be deleted..
It's pretty much common knowledge if you know how to use the ls command.
nothing new
Nothing new here. People have been doing this with all apps (not just paid) for a while now. Its worth making backups of your apps for personal use, this is all well and good, incase you need to wipe your device between roms etc. However what would be be the point in sharing a paid app for free? As already mentioned you can't update it for free so your going to be stuck with an outdated app without access to any new features the developer adds in the future nor will you get any bug fixes if these are needed.
I do try and stay away from paid apps personally as my belief is that android is open-source and everything that goes with it should be free. But there apps out there that are worth the money.
Also, how long before this thread is locked / closed by mods? I'm sure xda rules state that your not allowed to explain how to get around paying for things. Community is to be supported not ripped off.
Ultimately if the app is good PAY THE DEVELOPER they did put a lot of work into creating the app in the first place so it can't hurt us to send them a few coins.
now y or we talking bout selling here,or we that damn cheap you cant pay
$.99 - $2.99 for a app yall sad..lol..cuz we not dumb here,we know there is a way but keep it to urself ppl..thz
Automization said:
Is this possibly another thorn in Google's flesh to kill Cyanogen
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Not sure why you brought up Cyanogen as this has nothing to do with Cyanogen. It is an issue with the reliance on protected apps using the Linux permissions for copy access.
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Rooted Android phones missing some paid apps in market

I was researching a problem I have been having installing an app I paid for on Google Market after flashing my G1 to Eclair. At first I thought it had to do with comparability but after checking out the apps site I founf out it was compatible. Then I found this on Google's support forum.
Hi All,
As a follow-up to Rajesh's post, rooted devices are different from unlocked devices. Rooted devices should not expect to see forward locked applications. Unlocked devices (meaning not linked to a mobile service provider) should have access to these applications. We're very much aware of issues around the Motorola Milestone and I'll be certain to share updates once they are available.
Regards,
Dontae
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It seems that Forward locked apps will not be available to rooted phones. Anyone know a work around or even how to tell if an app you have is forward locked?
thanks,
-tj
You need the right stuff in the build.prop file so the phone identifies itself as one that has full paid app access.
You could probably do a google search for something like "adp1 protected apps" or "adp1 paid apps" and you'll find a lot of reference to the same phenomenon.

[need advice] after ~10 yrs kitkat and xposed, what are my options on a samsung note8

Hi all,
I have been a Samsung Note User from day one (and Note1). To keep apps in check, I always used xposed plus xprivacy or LBE. Today, I am totally aware my Note4 is totally outdated but I really got used to being able to deny data and (maybe more importantly) network access to any app at will.
I have been keeping to use my old phone because whenever I looked for viable app-fencing solutions on the current android versions, everything seemed very volatile and unstable. Recently my company gave me a Note8 and although I am not a big friend of the modern "glass brick" design trend at all, it is hard to ignore the advances in terms of hardware power and that my trusty old Note begins to be unable to execute certain new apps.
I presume most of you are using current Android versions. So I'd like to ask you which solutions are you using to prevent unwanted data and privacy drain on your devices. I my dreams I would continue to be able to willingly decide whether any app may be allowed to use either Wifi or mobile networks (bonus prize: depending on if the app is in foreground or not), be able to suppress advertising extensions in apps and deny access to privacy-related data like position, unique IDs and contact database.
Which solutions would I use to achieve as many of these goals as possible on Android 7 or even 8? Maybe even some without rooting?
Thank you very much for you suggestions and input..
Much of that is backed right into nougat and Oreo. Many permissions can be denied (depending on the app developers). Root on the newer samsungs seems to be problematic.
Bitmixer said:
Hi all,
I have been a Samsung Note User from day one (and Note1). To keep apps in check, I always used xposed plus xprivacy or LBE. Today, I am totally aware my Note4 is totally outdated but I really got used to being able to deny data and (maybe more importantly) network access to any app at will.
I have been keeping to use my old phone because whenever I looked for viable app-fencing solutions on the current android versions, everything seemed very volatile and unstable. Recently my company gave me a Note8 and although I am not a big friend of the modern "glass brick" design trend at all, it is hard to ignore the advances in terms of hardware power and that my trusty old Note begins to be unable to execute certain new apps.
I presume most of you are using current Android versions. So I'd like to ask you which solutions are you using to prevent unwanted data and privacy drain on your devices. I my dreams I would continue to be able to willingly decide whether any app may be allowed to use either Wifi or mobile networks (bonus prize: depending on if the app is in foreground or not), be able to suppress advertising extensions in apps and deny access to privacy-related data like position, unique IDs and contact database.
Which solutions would I use to achieve as many of these goals as possible on Android 7 or even 8? Maybe even some without rooting?
Thank you very much for you suggestions and input..
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Hey! We are together in this! I am exactly the same on my Motorola x play! Been using xprivacy and xposed too for ages on all apps, plus a firewall too.
Give a look at f-droid app store and xposed itself, on the download tab. There is the new xprivacy LUA for android 6/7, and it's the successor of the old version. Haven't tested out yet, but seems to be more or less the same, judging by what I read.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/xprivacylua6-0-android-privacy-manager-t3730663
Also... Give a look at a good firewall, to block rogue internet access for all the nasty apps out there.
Anything just give me a shout. It's good to know I am not alone! [emoji108][emoji56]
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madbat99 said:
Much of that is backed right into nougat and Oreo. Many permissions can be denied (depending on the app developers). Root on the newer samsungs seems to be problematic.
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Thanks for your reply, madbat.
I have seen the new permission management in oreo. Please understand that to me it is important that not an app developer decides what I can deny but I want to be able to make that decision myself. Moreover, as far as my knowledge goes, android does not allow to deny network access to apps when I deem they shouldn't have any business on my uplink. Most importantly this applies for any Amazon apps and most apps from their store. All of them are trying to phone home every few minutes(!).
Ev0luti0n_ said:
Hey! We are together in this! I am exactly the same on my Motorola x play! Been using xprivacy and xposed too for ages on all apps, plus a firewall too.
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I had hoped I am not alone
Ev0luti0n_ said:
(...) There is the new xprivacy LUA for android 6/7, and it's the successor of the old version. Haven't tested out yet, but seems to be more or less the same, judging by what I read.
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I have read about that one and to me it appears like it is not quite there. Last time I looked, the developer was about to REMOVE protection of several sensitive data points like IMEI. Also, like madcat mentioned, rooting the latest Samsung devices can be problematic and I might get some problems bricking a $1000 company device
Ev0luti0n_ said:
Also... Give a look at a good firewall, to block rogue internet access for all the nasty apps out there.
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Any recommendations here?
kind regards
Oh... I use afwall, which requires root. I did read here on XDA, that there is a good no root firewall here, but I can't remember the name. ..
Also you won't be able to root the device? I am not sure you are going to have much luck... [emoji848]
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Ev0luti0n_ said:
Also you won't be able to root the device? I am not sure you are going to have much luck... [emoji848]
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I guess I am able to root it, just a little reluctant yet Like, waiting for someone to finally discover a rooting method that does not invalidate knox for the note8
Hey guys, I have a question. What firewall were you talking about for KitKat?

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