Z3C D5833, unlocking LTE bands ? - Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello to you all,
I am very concerned because I bought a Z3 Compact D5833 (i'm in Brazil for work) and will be back soon to France. The LTE bands are different in the two locations, that's why Europe has the D5803 version. I was hoping that someone else also ran into this problem and found a solution? Returning the phone is impossible for me now because I've been using it for quite long here
My provider in France is Free which has 2600Mhz in common with my model.... does someone know whether or not it can work? I read online about people who couldn't get their phone to have 4G, even some people didn't have any internet. But that makes no sense because all 3G bands are supported so I'm feeling lost... I am not enjoying the wait until my return and I'd like to know what I should expect there. A massive thanks for all help :good:

7 (2600) should work.
Take a look at this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...ad-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269
and this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/guide-unlock-z3c-international-bands-t3091344
But, I haven't seen anyone with Z3 or Z3C successfully unlocking the bands here at XDA.
They went through the procedure and it showed the bands as unlocked, but nobody could actually use them.

fijasko said:
7 (2600) should work.
Take a look at this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...ad-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269
and this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/guide-unlock-z3c-international-bands-t3091344
But, I haven't seen anyone with Z3 or Z3C successfully unlocking the bands here at XDA.
They went through the procedure and it showed the bands as unlocked, but nobody could actually use them.
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Thanks! I will keep all of this of the side, and let everyone know how the phone performs when back in France... Let's see...

Hey, soooo it's a no, it doesn't take 4G. 3G and H+ work like a charm and I'm keeping that phone because I love it so if anyone finds a way to actually get other frequencies to work, i'm interested. Thanks!

I now have LTE in France with a D5833. I don't know if it's me or the network that changed. My provider is Free. It's been a month I had only 3G and H+, it's been a week I had problems, and today, boom, LTE after restarting my phone... I am trying to figure out what changed. I'm sure other people have problems in France with the D5833 so I'll work out what was the cause!

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I'm so sorry this has to be my first post..

Hey XDA - I've been a browser forever, but I just signed up;
because I am in diiiiiiiiire need of some help.
I'm really sorry this has to be my first thread.
I promise I'm not a troll, and I promise I'll contribute as
much as I possibly can!
I have a situation I am in -
I currently have a Nexus One, on T-Mobile U.S.
It's completely stock, no hacks or roots, mods or anything.
To make a long story short - I'll be switching phones and providers soon (Evo), but I would like to give this phone to my girlfriend, who happens to live in the United Kingdom. She's on the O2 network, and has all the data/plan stuff covered already, I just need to get the phone working for her when she pops in her SIM card.
From what I've gathered, it seems like the Nexus One WILL work on O2 with both 2G and 3G speeds, if this is true; can someone verify?
"O2 use 2100MHz for 3G and 900/1800MHz for GSM (2G - Voice/GPRS).
The Nexus One supports these frequencies for both services."
Also, I've never unlocked, or rooted a phone before. This phone would NEED to be unlocked for her to be able to use it, right? Is it possible to unlock a phone without rooting it? I really am new to all of this. She's not a power user, so I'd like her to keep the stock build and get all the updates. Is that possible? To unlock the phone and keep everything stocked?
Can someone maybe help with that? Or should I just follow one of those guides to "unlock and flash the rom" guides that I've found all over the internet? I really want to just keep everything stock for her, with the exception of the phone being unlocked.
Whatever happens, will the Android market still be working for her?
Does anyone know how Google Maps would work on the phone for her, in the UK?
I'm basically in love with the girl, and we're trying to do everything we can to make the best of a long distance relationship. The main reason I want her to have an android phone (mine) is for her to be able to use Fring with me, and Google Chat - so I'd really hope those apps worked in the UK.
Any help on unlocking this bad boy is much appreciated.
Thank you XDA,
You guys are awesome - and I have all the respect in the world for you.
Hey Dude,
my US Nexus is working fine on O2 here in germany and there are no problems with 3G and 2G, so no worries. And afaik no Nexus One is sim-locked.
Hope this helps.
Siggi303 said:
Hey Dude,
my US Nexus is working fine on O2 here in germany and there are no problems with 3G and 2G, so no worries. And afaik no Nexus One is sim-locked.
Hope this helps.
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That actually does help a lot - but,
did you purchase the unlocked Nexus from Google?
I can't confirm, but I've heard that both are different,
the T-Mobile version being sim locked.
I also have the APN settings from O2 U.K already
- I'm aware of that part.
Hi, I am on o2 in the uk and the nexus works Just fine (2g & 3g). Also, I thought the nexus wasn't sim locked, I certainly never had to unlock mine.
dazzawright said:
Hi, I am on o2 in the uk and the nexus works Just fine (2g & 3g). Also, I thought the nexus wasn't sim locked, I certainly never had to unlock mine.
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Was yours purchased unlocked though?
Thank you
Europe uses the same bands in every country. Its a direction from the European Union so every phone bought in Europe will work in every country in Europe.
Coincidentally, T-MO US uses the same bands so you won't have any trouble with it. I have the T-MO US version here in Romania and works fine on 2G and 3G.
I don't think its sim locked. You should put an att sim in it, although you're only gonna get 2G. But that will show you if its sim locked or not.
I am pretty sure that although Google were selling the Nexus with a T-Mobile option there are no sim- or netlocked Nexus Ones - simply for the fact that Google did not want that. That is also how Vodafone handles the Nexus distribution here in germany: There is an option for a bundle with a contract and the Nexus you get with it is not sim- or netlocked.
Also, to answer another question of you: Yes, your gf will be able to use all functions (market, maps, etc.) without any rooting-action necessary.
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Europe uses the same bands in every country. Its a direction from the European Union so every phone bought in Europe will work in every country in Europe.
Coincidentally, T-MO US uses the same bands so you won't have any trouble with it. I have the T-MO US version here in Romania and works fine on 2G and 3G.
I don't think its sim locked. You should put an att sim in it, although you're only gonna get 2G. But that will show you if its sim locked or not.
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That was a genius suggestion.
Popped in a co-workers ATT sim, and it worked
just fine with absolutely zero issues. Thank you!
AHHH I am so relieved. DDDDDDDDDDDDDD!
Siggi : Thank you also for that bit of information, you guys really just took a huge weight off my chest.
1. It will be fully functional on the provider you specified.
2. There is no such thing as SIM-locked Nexus.
3. It's fun using Fring video to show people places.
just for our your clarification: EVERY NEXUS ONE SOLD IS UNLOCKED, and, IT WILL WORK IN THE UK.
Settled.
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just for our your clarification: EVERY NEXUS ONE SOLD IS UNLOCKED, and, IT WILL WORK IN THE UK.
Settled.
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Exactly.
I also got a Nexus One from Google US and it's working without any problems in germany.
Just remember, even though your Nexus One is unlocked, if you are on contract with T-Mobile and you cancel early, you will have to pay an ETF.

[Q] Info about Carriers

Hello all,
I'm currently having trouble sorting through the quagmire of information about the US releases. I need a new phone badly and have to say I'm seriously considering the Z1... that being said I don't like Tmobile and can't say I'd like to shell out $700 for a non 4G yet, unlocked phone from Sony. I'm on AT&T and was wondering if there had been any more recent info. It's all a little bit overwhelming and frustrating to look through, especially since a lot of what I find is speculation. Does anyone know or can point me to someone who might? I'd appreciate it, hunting for a good phone with lots of features and a good camera is hard. I considered the Nokia 1020 but it's W8 OS pretty much makes me want to avoid it.
Help, please?
Sony Canada is selling unlocked C6906 (AT&T LTE compatible), but stocks are scarce. If you really want to get it, I'd start with them first.
I am on US T-mobile and I have C6903. It is unlocked, and internet tethering is unlocked.
C6903 is running on all Bands as I see 2g-3g-HSPA-HSPA+ and even LTE.
I have 38 Mbps download, and 18 MBps download. Just so you know. No need to wait for C6906 or wutsoever. I was confused like you 5 days ago, but not anymore. Buy it
The only thing I hate from it is the Music play-back. It has such a very low Volume output for headset
while the c6903 is fine and dandy for use with T-Mobile, it doesn't support all AT&T LTE bands, so your LTE reception will be quite shoddy.
Yeah I knew I could get one if I wanted to switch carriers, but I don't like Tmobile so as I said /I was just wondering if anyone had hear of any other US carriers supposedly getting it through either Sony or the carrier itself. So far I haven't found anything but rumors really.

T-Mobile Moto x question - activation

I know that tmobile moto x is not carrier/sim locked, read it in many threads here.
But does it need to be activated with tmobile sim first time?
mihir24 said:
I know that tmobile moto x is not carrier/sim locked, read it in many threads here.
But does it need to be activated with tmobile sim first time?
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No.
T-Mobile Networks
Well, I hope it's true that the T-Mobile comes with the Sim unlocked... I think I'll buy it tomorrow with the promotion of the cyber-monday extension.
But I'm a little worried about the T-mobile version network support, you see, most people, including me, of my country buy Unlocked ATT variants from the US, because here we only have these networks:
850 - Movistar / C&W Panama
1900 - Claro
1800/1900 - Digicel
I'm with Claro so I'll need 1900.
Since most of the ATT variants work with those bands, people over here buy those... While T-Mobile variants don't. But now I'm seeing that the Moto X from T-Mobile supports four 2G GSM bands (850/900/1800/1900) and comes with five UMTS bands (850/900/1700/1900/2100).
I'm not checking the LTE capabilities, since my country hasn't implemented it yet, and when they will, I'll probably won't use it after some years ($$$).
So, does this phone really works for me? I thought of buying an ATT variant but it seems some persons here (xda community) had problems unlocking the sim... (I don't mind paying to get it unlocked) One even posted that couldn't unlocked, used all the tries and had to put it on sale trough eBay :crying:
Well, what do you guys think of this...? Really, really crossing my fingers here :fingers-crossed: (Just checking the bands here, not much interested on rooting the phone, actually scared too. Don't wan't to hard brick anything )
Darel18 said:
Well, I hope it's true that the T-Mobile comes with the Sim unlocked... I think I'll buy it tomorrow with the promotion of the cyber-monday extension.
But I'm a little worried about the T-mobile version network support, you see, most people, including me, of my country buy Unlocked ATT variants from the US, because here we only have these networks:
850 - Movistar / C&W Panama
1900 - Claro
1800/1900 - Digicel
I'm with Claro so I'll need 1900.
Since most of the ATT variants work with those bands, people over here buy those... While T-Mobile variants don't. But now I'm seeing that the Moto X from T-Mobile supports four 2G GSM bands (850/900/1800/1900) and comes with five UMTS bands (850/900/1700/1900/2100).
I'm not checking the LTE capabilities, since my country hasn't implemented it yet, and when they will, I'll probably won't use it after some years ($$$).
So, does this phone really works for me? I thought of buying an ATT variant but it seems some persons here (xda community) had problems unlocking the sim... (I don't mind paying to get it unlocked) One even posted that couldn't unlocked, used all the tries and had to put it on sale trough eBay :crying:
Well, what do you guys think of this...? Really, really crossing my fingers here :fingers-crossed: (Just checking the bands here, not much interested on rooting the phone, actually scared too. Don't wan't to hard brick anything )
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If the T-Mo one supports the bands you need then why roll the dice with the AT&T version? If you really want the AT&T version and AT&T won't unlock it for you then you can just return it. If you want to get in on the sale price and don't want to risk anything then buy one of each so at least you will have the T-Mo one to fall back on. Just some suggestions. I am not really familiar with bands and sim unlocking and how it's done.
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Well, I hope it's true that the T-Mobile comes with the Sim unlocked... I think I'll buy it tomorrow with the promotion of the cyber-monday extension.
But I'm a little worried about the T-mobile version network support, you see, most people, including me, of my country buy Unlocked ATT variants from the US, because here we only have these networks:
850 - Movistar / C&W Panama
1900 - Claro
1800/1900 - Digicel
I'm with Claro so I'll need 1900.
Since most of the ATT variants work with those bands, people over here buy those... While T-Mobile variants don't. But now I'm seeing that the Moto X from T-Mobile supports four 2G GSM bands (850/900/1800/1900) and comes with five UMTS bands (850/900/1700/1900/2100).
I'm not checking the LTE capabilities, since my country hasn't implemented it yet, and when they will, I'll probably won't use it after some years ($$$).
So, does this phone really works for me? I thought of buying an ATT variant but it seems some persons here (xda community) had problems unlocking the sim... (I don't mind paying to get it unlocked) One even posted that couldn't unlocked, used all the tries and had to put it on sale trough eBay :crying:
Well, what do you guys think of this...? Really, really crossing my fingers here :fingers-crossed: (Just checking the bands here, not much interested on rooting the phone, actually scared too. Don't wan't to hard brick anything )
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I am also thinking to buy one tomorrow.
[email protected] said:
If the T-Mo one supports the bands you need then why roll the dice with the AT&T version? If you really want the AT&T version and AT&T won't unlock it for you then you can just return it. If you want to get in on the sale price and don't want to risk anything then buy one of each so at least you will have the T-Mo one to fall back on. Just some suggestions. I am not really familiar with bands and sim unlocking and how it's done.
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Oh, just wanted to be extra sure that this version will work with the bands available here at Panama... Guess there's nothing weird with that variant of the Moto X having 5 UMTS bands instead of 4 like the others.
Anyway, I'll post my feedback later when I buy and get the product, wish me luck and thanks :victory:
mihir24 said:
I am also thinking to buy one tomorrow.
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Wish you the best of luck bro! :good:
Guys... look at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2546466&highlight=sim+network+unlock
From what the whole thread states the tmobile version is sim unlocked out of the box even through moto maker. In fact they are stating that there is little difference between the tmobile and dev edition.
So from the whole thread there I will pruchase tmobile. Verizon is unlocked but does not have the correct radios for my countries 3g network. Att does but I do not want to have to go through the hastle of unlocking it... even if its simple to buy a code.
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Darel18 said:
Oh, just wanted to be extra sure that this version will work with the bands available here at Panama... Guess there's nothing weird with that variant of the Moto X having 5 UMTS bands instead of 4 like the others.
Anyway, I'll post my feedback later when I buy and get the product, wish me luck and thanks :victory:
Wish you the best of luck bro! :good:
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Also go to the companies and ask what bands they work with expecially the 3g and 4g. I know first hand that Verizon does not support most of the bands in central america... Ive had verizon phones here and they only get 2g sometimes. And good luck with going to the companies... most people there have no idea... and they will stare at you with a blank look on their face when you ask about bands and will probably try to sell you a phone. So be patient.
Also... keep us updated!!
I have an Claro Chile phone using tmobile kit kat and works 2g, 3g, h/h+, 4g LTE bands without any issies

[Q] Moto X GSM Unlocked T-Mobile works outside the US?

Hi!
I'm planning to buy a customized Moto X unlocked GSM edition but I'm wondering if it'll work outside the US.
At Moto they don't know as "they haven't tried it". And is confusing as it says on their website that is GSM unlocked but comes with a t-mobile sim card, so it's unlocked to work with t-mobile and at&t only or also open to other compatible GSM networks around the world? Has anyone had the chance to try it?
aricris said:
Hi!
I'm planning to buy a customized Moto X unlocked GSM edition but I'm wondering if it'll work outside the US.
At Moto they don't know as "they haven't tried it". And is confusing as it says on their website that is GSM unlocked but comes with a t-mobile sim card, so it's unlocked to work with t-mobile and at&t only or also open to other compatible GSM networks around the world? Has anyone had the chance to try it?
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Most phones shipped these days support most 2g/3g bands to support international roaming features. Say you're going to Europe, i wouldn't count on you getting anywhere near LTE speeds or even 4g speeds because there networks aren't that developed yet, put in simple terms, but there's a good chance that you can still get a supported 2g/3g connection, does that make sense? I would take it with me if i were you, no harm in that right?
moto x in Belgium
I got my T-mobile Moto X shipped to Belgium, it works on the local GSM networks.
joemon871 said:
Most phones shipped these days support most 2g/3g bands to support international roaming features. Say you're going to Europe, i wouldn't count on you getting anywhere near LTE speeds or even 4g speeds because there networks aren't that developed yet, put in simple terms, but there's a good chance that you can still get a supported 2g/3g connection, does that make sense? I would take it with me if i were you, no harm in that right?
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We have 4G in our little East-European country, Romania (probably you never heard of it)
TheSaw said:
We have 4G in our little East-European country, Romania (probably you never heard of it)
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I heard of it What you can do is find out what network bands your cellphone company back in Romania uses and see if your phone supports it. There's a good chance your phone will support one of their bands though
joemon871 said:
I heard of it What you can do is find out what network bands your cellphone company back in Romania uses and see if your phone supports it. There's a good chance your phone will support one of their bands though
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They support it for 2G/3G, but not above. The bands are different for LTE.
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They support it for 2G/3G, but not above. The bands are different for LTE.
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Yup exactly as i predicted first post but hey good news is at least you'll be able to use the phone. Use WiFi for your internet needs
joemon871 said:
Yup exactly as i predicted first post but hey good news is at least you'll be able to use the phone. Use WiFi for your internet needs
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3G is fast enough. As the 4G network is not fully developed (no full country coverage), and the prices are still high, I don't think it's really worth stressing too much about it. I ordered myself a MotoX from the states with a non-compatible LTE hardware just now. I know that I won't use that technology in a comfortable way anyways for the next 2 years. For my personal needs, 3G+ is more than enough.
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3G is fast enough. As the 4G network is not fully developed (no full country coverage), and the prices are still high, I don't think it's really worth stressing too much about it. I ordered myself a MotoX from the states with a non-compatible LTE hardware just now. I know that I won't use that technology in a comfortable way anyways for the next 2 years. For my personal needs, 3G+ is more than enough.
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Ya don't worry about it too much because it sounds like you're a casual user, mainly for emails and such I'm guessing? But anyways Lte speeds are really going to take off in the next couple years so you'll be in for a treat when you get back Happy Journey!
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joemon871 said:
Ya don't worry about it too much because it sounds like you're a casual user, mainly for emails and such I'm guessing? But anyways Lte speeds are really going to take off in the next couple years so you'll be in for a treat when you get back Happy Journey!
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Well I could say casual user, I guess, but I use mostly wifi wherever I spend more time. Home, work, friends place, all have good wifi, so when I'm out, I switch to 3G, and in that time I don't really need super fast speeds.
Thanks.
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We have 4G in our little East-European country, Romania (probably you never heard of it)
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Romania?? of course I have!! have u heard about Ecuador? haha
At high school we studied most countries name around the world =) not as in...u may know where
And thanks!! means that it's really unlocked
joemon871 said:
Most phones shipped these days support most 2g/3g bands to support international roaming features. Say you're going to Europe, i wouldn't count on you getting anywhere near LTE speeds or even 4g speeds because there networks aren't that developed yet, put in simple terms, but there's a good chance that you can still get a supported 2g/3g connection, does that make sense? I would take it with me if i were you, no harm in that right?
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Makes sense and the harm is like $430 haha and then the time n money to unlock it. But now anymore by knowing that some people had try it outside the US .
My worry was about if it's really unlocked as I'm buying it to use it in Ecuador most of the time. And when u buy it, it says that they give u a t-mobile sim card so that's confusing.
Bought it yesterday
aricris said:
Makes sense and the harm is like $430 haha and then the time n money to unlock it. But now anymore by knowing that some people had try it outside the US .
My worry was about if it's really unlocked as I'm buying it to use it in Ecuador most of the time. And when u buy it, it says that they give u a t-mobile sim card so that's confusing.
Bought it yesterday
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Haha guess you'll have to find out yourself eh? let us know if it works
Works outside the us!
If you want it...buy it because it works!! The NO CONTRACT MOTO X is fully unlocked!!
Comes with a t-mobile nano card but that's no problem...I guess if that I need it at the US someday, I will have to activate it.

U.S. Sony Xperia XZ3 & VoLTE on AT&T??

I was just wondering...........will Sony phones like the upcoming Xperia XZ3 (U.S. version, release date: 10/17/2018) be able to access ALL of AT&T's network radio bands without VoLTE certification? I know T-Mobile doesn't allow access to their 700 MHz spectrum (aka Band 12) without VoLTE certification, but does AT&T require the same thing? Or will users get FULL access, just no VoLTE?? Also, does AT&T actually require VoLTE certification??
Thank You!
I'm on T-mobile and VoLTE works fine. I inserted my coworker's AT&T sim and had the option to enable VoLTE. Unfortunately, I did not think to actually test it.
iArvee said:
I'm on T-mobile and VoLTE works fine. I inserted my coworker's AT&T sim and had the option to enable VoLTE. Unfortunately, I did not think to actually test it.
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Hi.......thanks for responding!
Wait.........which exact Xperia phone do you have, and is it a U.S. version or int'l? I know it can't be the XZ3 as it (the U.S. version) doesn't get released on Amazon until next Wednesday.
Ok wait.........nevermind. Your signature logo tells me you have the 2017 XZ Premium. But is it the U.S. version or int'l??
Ok that is interesting about your phone showing the option to enable VoLTE with your co-worker's AT&T SIM card too. I'm sure if it actually showed up as an option that wasn't grayed out then it should definitely work too.
I wanted to know if a company like Sony didn't certify VoLTE with AT&T, would people who use their phones on AT&T's network get full access to ALL of AT&T's radio bands or no. If what you're saying is true, then perhaps they do? I don't know. lol
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Hi.......thanks for responding!
Wait.........which exact Xperia phone do you have, and is it a U.S. version or int'l? I know it can't be the XZ3 as it (the U.S. version) doesn't get released on Amazon until next Wednesday.
Ok wait.........nevermind. Your signature logo tells me you have the 2017 XZ Premium. But is it the U.S. version or int'l??
Ok that is interesting about your phone showing the option to enable VoLTE with your co-worker's AT&T SIM card too. I'm sure if it actually showed up as an option that wasn't grayed out then it should definitely work too.
I wanted to know if a company like Sony didn't certify VoLTE with AT&T, would people who use their phones on AT&T's network get full access to ALL of AT&T's radio bands or no. If what you're saying is true, then perhaps they do? I don't know. lol
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I have the XZ3. I bought it from Clove (UK), flashed with US firmware. The signature doesn't have the XZ3 in their database yet, so I can't update it. I'd love to test it for you again tomorrow when I get to work, however he's on vacation for 2 weeks.
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I have the XZ3. I bought it from Clove (UK), flashed with US firmware. The signature doesn't have the XZ3 in their database yet, so I can't update it. I'd love to test it for you again tomorrow when I get to work, however he's on vacation for 2 weeks.
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Oh wow, cool!
So basically you're running a U.S. version then it seems, which is helpful.
Ha! Of course he is. Just my luck! lol
It's fine. I have T-Mobile, but thought that was a "dead issue" since Sony ONLY OFFICIALLY certified the XZ1 Compact with T-Mobile. When he gets back that would be cool if you could though as I have a friend who has AT&T and would like to know.
I guess I'm just shocked b/c this site doesn't have any information about really any recent Xperia flagships having VoLTE (and therefore access to Band 12/700 MHz). So you've tested your phone out using some kind of app to confirm that it can ACTUALLY access T-Mobile's Band 12 spectrum?? And I assume it stays on 4G LTE during calls too? (Please kindly answer both questions.)
Even if all this is true, what sux is the XZ3 (all versions) apparently DOESN'T have Band 71/600 MHz (under 4G LTE) spectrum programmed on it, regardless of version. And according to a recent update from T-Mobile, my area (Chicagoland region) is about to get that exact radio band by like the end of the year. Uggh.........f'ing Sony Mobile! lol
RockStar2005 said:
Oh wow, cool!
So basically you're running a U.S. version then it seems, which is helpful.
Ha! Of course he is. Just my luck! lol
It's fine. I have T-Mobile, but thought that was a "dead issue" since Sony ONLY OFFICIALLY certified the XZ1 Compact with T-Mobile. When he gets back that would be cool if you could though as I have a friend who has AT&T and would like to know.
I guess I'm just shocked b/c this site doesn't have any information about really any recent Xperia flagships having VoLTE (and therefore access to Band 12/700 MHz). So you've tested your phone out using some kind of app to confirm that it can ACTUALLY access T-Mobile's Band 12 spectrum?? And I assume it stays on 4G LTE during calls too? (Please kindly answer both questions.)
Even if all this is true, what sux is the XZ3 (all versions) apparently DOESN'T have Band 71/600 MHz (under 4G LTE) spectrum programmed on it, regardless of version. And according to a recent update from T-Mobile, my area (Chicagoland region) is about to get that exact radio band by like the end of the year. Uggh.........f'ing Sony Mobile! lol
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I used LTE Discovery to check what band I'm on and it's saying Band 4. And yes, it stays on LTE during calls. Refer to screenshots (attachments).
iArvee said:
I used LTE Discovery to check what band I'm on and it's saying Band 4. And yes, it stays on LTE during calls. Refer to screenshots (attachments).
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Yes, that's the app, LTE Discovery! I couldn't remember the name of it earlier. lol
Did they finally add Band 71/600 MHz to its list of bands it can detect??
So can I presume that 4G LTE & LTE+ are the exact same thing??
Ok but what about Band 12 though? That's the band that T-Mobile is supposed to require VoLTE certification for in order to access it. An LTE Discovery screenshot of that (must be during a call) would be great actually! I believe it can access Band 12 for data, but the thing I care about is having access to it for calls.
And ok your profile says you're from or in Manila?? I'm confused. lol I hope it's just from b/c if you're not in the U.S. then this info is kinda useless to me. lol
Thanks!!!!!!!
RockStar2005 said:
Yes, that's the app, LTE Discovery! I couldn't remember the name of it earlier. lol
Did they finally add Band 71/600 MHz to its list of bands it can detect??
So can I presume that 4G LTE & LTE+ are the exact same thing??
Ok but what about Band 12 though? That's the band that T-Mobile is supposed to require VoLTE certification for in order to access it. An LTE Discovery screenshot of that (must be during a call) would be great actually! You I believe can access Band 12 for data, but the thing I care about is having access to it for calls.
And ok your profile says you're from or in Manila?? I'm confused. lol I hope it's just from b/c if you're not in the U.S. then this info is kinda useless to me. lol
Thanks!!!!!!!
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I'm not sure if they added Band 71, doesn't really say in the app. I guess you'll have to contact the developer for that. I have no knowledge of where Band 12 is deployed. I'm in the Philadelphia area right now. Signature is just where I'm from.
iArvee said:
I'm not sure if they added Band 71, doesn't really say in the app. I guess you'll have to contact the developer for that. I have no knowledge of where Band 12 is deployed. I'm in the Philadelphia area right now. Signature is just where I'm from.
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Oh ok. Not a big deal. I can just download it again and check it too. It would say in the Settings. When my area first got Band 12/700 MHz, I used the app to detect and notify me of every time it found a Band 12 signal. Shortly after, it began to pop up when I was like in elevators and parts of downtown Chicago, etc., which made me very happy. lol
You can check this map, though of course I think Band 12 will only get utilized when Bands 2 & 4 are not available. Philly? Ok great!! It appears you do have it too.
Well so far this is really great news!! I just can't understand why no one else is confirming this like on that site I linked earlier?? I would assume the U.S. version then will have it too since your firmware is U.S. for the XZ3.
Nice. I used to have a good friend who was Filipino too. Just lost touch over the years.
Thanks again so much!!
iArvee said:
I'm not sure if they added Band 71, doesn't really say in the app. I guess you'll have to contact the developer for that. I have no knowledge of where Band 12 is deployed. I'm in the Philadelphia area right now. Signature is just where I'm from.
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I checked and LTE Discovery does NOT currently offer Band 71 detection at this time. So I e-mailed the developer a few hours ago and requested it. Hopefully they add it soon so I can detect Band 71 when it hits my area in the next few months.
Thanks again for all your input! Much appreciated! I will check back with you in a couple weeks. In the mean time, I'm honestly CONSIDERING buying the U.S. XZ3 off Amazon (gets released next Wed) and testing it out myself. LOL I get Band 12 in my condo elevator and parking lot too sometimes, so I should be able to get a screenshot of the phone in Band 12 DURING a call via LTE Discovery when it's detected. But I doubt I'd keep it up cuz no Band 71. FML! lol Still, I'd wanna know for myself so that perhaps when the XZ4 comes out (or XZ3 Premium) if it will have Band 71 and VoLTE confirmed, I will most likely buy & keep it.
RockStar2005 said:
I checked and LTE Discovery does NOT currently offer Band 71 detection at this time. So I e-mailed the developer a few hours ago and requested it. Hopefully they add it soon so I can detect Band 71 when it hits my area in the next few months.
Thanks again for all your input! Much appreciated! I will check back with you in a couple weeks. In the mean time, I'm honestly CONSIDERING buying the U.S. XZ3 off Amazon (gets released next Wed) and testing it out myself. LOL I get Band 12 in my condo elevator and parking lot too sometimes, so I should be able to get a screenshot of the phone in Band 12 DURING a call via LTE Discovery when it's detected. But I doubt I'd keep it up cuz no Band 71. FML! lol Still, I'd wanna know for myself so that perhaps when the XZ4 comes out (or XZ3 Premium) if it will have Band 71 and VoLTE confirmed, I will most likely buy & keep it.
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Yeah, the XZ3 is a really nice phone. Comparing it with my XZP, I believe it's a nice upgrade. Not a required upgrade, but still a nice one. You can also just wait for it to be available in Best Buy or something so you can try the phone out without buying it. If it comes out in Best Buy. I assume it will, since the XZ2P was.
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I have the XZ3. I bought it from Clove (UK), flashed with US firmware. The signature doesn't have the XZ3 in their database yet, so I can't update it. I'd love to test it for you again tomorrow when I get to work, however he's on vacation for 2 weeks.
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I just got mine from clove as well - I'm on ATT and I don't see the option for VoLTE. Can you tell me where you found the US firmware and how to flash it? Thanks
Funk2641 said:
I just got mine from clove as well - I'm on ATT and I don't see the option for VoLTE. Can you tell me where you found the US firmware and how to flash it? Thanks
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Yeah, it won't show since you're still on UK firmware. Download the US firmware from Xperifirm, then use newflasher to flash it. Flashtool doesn't support the XZ3 yet.
After I used newflasher, things didn't feel right, so I just used the Xperia Companion to do a Software Repair. Basically the same thing as a full wipe, but it'll just download the latest firmware from the region you're currently on.
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Yeah, the XZ3 is a really nice phone. Comparing it with my XZP, I believe it's a nice upgrade. Not a required upgrade, but still a nice one. You can also just wait for it to be available in Best Buy or something so you can try the phone out without buying it. If it comes out in Best Buy. I assume it will, since the XZ2P was.
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Yeah I would agree. Yes the XZP has a 4K screen, but not HDR (which of course the XZ2 P got both). The XZ3 having 2K + HDR is really something. Yeah plus it's 18:9 which I DEF prefer over 16:9, and yeah 845 processor.
Typically both Best Buy & Amazon get the newest Xperia phones. But for some reason, even at this point, it appears ONLY Amazon will carry the U.S. XZ3.
So...........even though it won't have Band 71/600 MHz when released, I decided to STILL go ahead and pre-order the U.S. XZ3 off Amazon (release date: next Wed) JUST to confirm for myself what you said and showed me................that with the U.S. firmware, the XZ3 WILL get VoLTE on T-Mobile and therefore will STAY in Band 12 & 4G LTE/LTE+ while on a call as well. If I can confirm this, that is HUGE. HUGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEE!!!! lol
I will of course keep you posted. In the elevator for my condo building b/c the reception is bad there, my phone always at one point switches to Band 12..........and THAT is when I'll strike. When my LTE Discovery app detects Band 12 being utilized, I will make a call right away, and if it stays in 4G LTE, then it's confirmed. If not, F U Sony Mobile!!!!!! F U and die! lol Then for XZ4 or XZ3 Premium, as long as they add Band 71/600 MHz (which my area will get activated on T-Mobile's network by about the end of this year), I'm 99.9% buying it. lol
Thanks again!!
Good luck RockStar2005, I am not optimistic, I hope it works with T-Mobile VoLTE.
hnt20 said:
Good luck RockStar2005, I am not optimistic, I hope it works with T-Mobile VoLTE.
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Hey hnt20.......thanks! lol
How ya been?
Well I hope it works too! But if not, it will be nice to say I got to try out the newest and even greatest Xperia phone in years!
Hope all is well with you.
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I'm on T-mobile and VoLTE works fine. I inserted my coworker's AT&T sim and had the option to enable VoLTE. Unfortunately, I did not think to actually test it.
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Are you sure VOLTE works on T-Mobile? It used to switch "H" on calls. How about wifi calling?
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Are you sure VOLTE works on T-Mobile? It used to switch "H" on calls. How about wifi calling?
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Yes, 100% sure. Are you running the US firmware?
Can't seem to find wifi calling in the settings.
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Yeah, it won't show since you're still on UK firmware. Download the US firmware from Xperifirm, then use newflasher to flash it. Flashtool doesn't support the XZ3 yet.
After I used newflasher, things didn't feel right, so I just used the Xperia Companion to do a Software Repair. Basically the same thing as a full wipe, but it'll just download the latest firmware from the region you're currently on.
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Unfortunately, I'm running into some errors while trying to flash via newflasher:
no usb device with vid:0x0fce pid:0xb00b !
Press any key to continue . . .
Am I missing something? I have the XZ3 in flash mode (green led, no screen on) and the newflasher.exe in the firmware directory. Am I missing something?
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Unfortunately, I'm running into some errors while trying to flash via newflasher:
no usb device with vid:0x0fce pid:0xb00b !
Press any key to continue . . .
Am I missing something? I have the XZ3 in flash mode (green led, no screen on) and the newflasher.exe in the firmware directory. Am I missing something?
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Did you install the gordon gate drivers? Also make sure that you installed the XZ3 drivers too. (https://developer.sony.com/develop/drivers/)

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