So, i've been reading through threads on this site as well as others. It seems all hope is lost when it comes to rooting my S5 with 5.0.....either if its KNOX or something else....is there a way to root if we aren't worried about tripping KNOX? and from what I have read we can't roll back to a previous version via Odin? Just checking to see if I need to give up and trade this phone for another one. Any leads or responses appreciated.
There is absolutely no way to root in any way, shape, or form once you're on 5.0 and there is very little chance there will ever be.
I sold mime and bought the tmobile s5. If you get a unlocked one you can put your at&t sim card in it and it can be rooted I did mine
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I've looked around for a few hours now, every root thread I've found for the N900A are for 4.3. So I unfortunately feel as if my assumption of not being able to get root access on my N900A with 4.4.2 is spot on.
Is this an accurate assumption?
I really just want to lower the screens DPI and remove the AT&T bloat.
I will never buy an AT&T branded phone again.
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dxp2_sw said:
I've looked around for a few hours now, every root thread I've found for the N900A are for 4.3. So I unfortunately feel as if my assumption of not being able to get root access on my N900A with 4.4.2 is spot on.
Is this an accurate assumption?
I really just want to lower the screens DPI and remove the AT&T bloat.
I will never buy an AT&T branded phone again.
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You are correct. Stock kit Kat can't be rooted currently.
Just look around in this thread. There's 25,000 threads created already about 4.4.2 root. (That there is no root)
Just have to be patient or get a different phone.
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My 2 year plan will be up in Sept. so I will be eligible for a phone upgrade with a new contract. I was thinking about getting an S5 (have an S3 currently), but see that they have locked down the bootloader pretty hard in Lollipop & anyone who took the OTA is pretty much screwed as far as downgrading goes.
My question is, what is the likelihood that come September a new (not a refurb) S5 will or will not come with Lollipop already installed? And if it does, is it the same as OTA in which the bootloader is locked? Or is it different if it comes pre-installed?
Thanks!
Yes, a new phone is guaranteed to have lollipop and it is the same as ota. You will not be able to root a new phone, period. Once updates come out, all new phones have that update so if you want root then you will have to look for used that hasn't been updated or buy a different model.
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Yes, a new phone is guaranteed to have lollipop and it is the same as ota. You will not be able to root a new phone, period. Once updates come out, all new phones have that update so if you want root then you will have to look for used that hasn't been updated or buy a different model.
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I just got my AT&T S5 in May and it is an OA1 running KitKat. I was able to ignore the OTA and eventually get to a lollipop custom rom. I bought my S5 from Amazon Wireless.
People seem to be still getting them with OA1, but won't last long.
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People seem to be still getting them with OA1, but won't last long.
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............. I have seen a few too............ Unfortunately this guy says he won't be upgrading till September, by then they all will probably be 5.0 but also by then we might have root............
I received my S5, roughly 1 month ago. My buddy got first pone in mail, it had 5.0 pre-installed. I got the 2nd phone, mine had 4.4 KK. Both are 900A (ATT).
Last time I owned a Samsung, I had vzw as my carrier. I swore to never own a Samsung again.
However after reading these posts, am I right to assume that tmobile doesn't lock the bootloader or that it's easier to unlock? I've seen several posts on root too?
Sorry for the questions, I just know all the horror stories about the S5 and vzw.
I've had T-Mobile for the longest time. At this time they have yet to lock our bootloaders. As for the unlocking of the phone, we have been having issues even with people buying the phone outright. T-Mobile wants you to be a customer for at least 40 days before unlocking the device, if I'm not mistaken. As for turning in a rooted phone or a device with custom software on it. They don't care as long as the device is not physically damaged. When I upgraded from my s4 to my s5 I had cm installed. I booted up the phone right in front of the rep and he said "whoa that's cool" after he saw the custom boot animation and took my phone and gave me my s5. If you have insurance on your phone you can send in the bricked phone and get one in return. Of course after paying the nearly 200 dollar deductible. I've never had to return a phone for being defective. But from what I have read about other people's experiences. Is that T-Mobile reps don't even check or care to check to see if Knox has been tripped. Hopefully this answers some of your questions.
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I've had T-Mobile for the longest time. At this time they have yet to lock our bootloaders. As for the unlocking of the phone, we have been having issues even with people buying the phone outright. T-Mobile wants you to be a customer for at least 40 days before unlocking the device, if I'm not mistaken. As for turning in a rooted phone or a device with custom software on it. They don't care as long as the device is not physically damaged. When I upgraded from my s4 to my s5 I had cm installed. I booted up the phone right in front of the rep and he said "whoa that's cool" after he saw the custom boot animation and took my phone and gave me my s5. If you have insurance on your phone you can send in the bricked phone and get one in return. Of course after paying the nearly 200 dollar deductible. I've never had to return a phone for being defective. But from what I have read about other people's experiences. Is that T-Mobile reps don't even check or care to check to see if Knox has been tripped. Hopefully this answers some of your questions.
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Thanks for the response. So as of right now, the bootloader is still locked and since it's a Samsung, chances are, it will stay that way. But there is root already available for the S6?
My last few Tmobile phones have been the Nexus 5, M9, and LG G3, so all of them I have been able to unlock the bootloader. But I am seriously considering the S6 as my next phone.
Thanks
Easiest way to root the S6 is using Ping Pong root. This apk does not trip the Knox counter. Thus not voiding tour warranty, however if you install a custom recovery this will trip the Knox counter. Search for Ping Ping root in the S6 forums.
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Easiest way to root the S6 is using Ping Pong root. This apk does not trip the Knox counter. Thus not voiding tour warranty, however if you install a custom recovery this will trip the Knox counter. Search for Ping Ping root in the S6 forums.
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This is great info... Thanks !!!
Your very welcome.
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Android newbie looking for more in-depth rooting gotchas and unlocked s6edge on AT&T.
Hi everyone, and thanks for all the great info here. Let's assume I have my "how to root" links bookmarked and ready to go, but like a good boyscout I want to understand the gotchas/subtleties before I cliff jump. I'm also within my 15 days to exchange my s6edge AT&T for an unlocked one at Best Buy, which I plan to do today... :highfive:
(I'm technically savy, but a real newb in the world of android versions, manufacturer changes, and carrier versions and conflicts...) :crying:
1) How do I do a full ROM-level backup before beginning my adventures in rooting? Titanium Backup is no good since I need root to use it. I'd like an iPhone-style backup that I can just restore should I brick my phone.
2) After I exchange my phone I'm going to immediately airplane-mode it to prevent autoupdates (my current phone already autoupdated to unrootable OF4)... once I root how do I effectively get-latest? I'd obviously like the latest security updates, and 5.1 if I can manage it, and to maintain root.
3) AT&T doesn't have 5.1.... but if I go unlocked then can I run 5.1 on AT&T? (I've been iPhone forever -- carriers messing with you is really foreign to me). On a related note, can AT&T send some update/profile-change OTA to my phone that will conflict with updates I'm doing locally? If so any tips to avoid this?
4) An unlocked phone will perform just as well on AT&T as an AT&t phone, right?
Thanks for any info, help, and/or pointing me to resources where I can find the info, in advance. I'm technically savy, but a real newb when it comes to the gotcha-ridden ground of android and carriers.
Thanks again.
- Jason
JasonS6Edge said:
Hi everyone, and thanks for all the great info here. Let's assume I have my "how to root" links bookmarked and ready to go, but like a good boyscout I want to understand the gotchas/subtleties before I cliff jump. I'm also within my 15 days to exchange my s6edge AT&T for an unlocked one at Best Buy, which I plan to do today... :highfive:
(I'm technically savy, but a real newb in the world of android versions, manufacturer changes, and carrier versions and conflicts...) :crying:
1) How do I do a full ROM-level backup before beginning my adventures in rooting? Titanium Backup is no good since I need root to use it. I'd like an iPhone-style backup that I can just restore should I brick my phone.
2) After I exchange my phone I'm going to immediately airplane-mode it to prevent autoupdates (my current phone already autoupdated to unrootable OF4)... once I root how do I effectively get-latest? I'd obviously like the latest security updates, and 5.1 if I can manage it, and to maintain root.
3) AT&T doesn't have 5.1.... but if I go unlocked then can I run 5.1 on AT&T? (I've been iPhone forever -- carriers messing with you is really foreign to me). On a related note, can AT&T send some update/profile-change OTA to my phone that will conflict with updates I'm doing locally? If so any tips to avoid this?
4) An unlocked phone will perform just as well on AT&T as an AT&t phone, right?
Thanks for any info, help, and/or pointing me to resources where I can find the info, in advance. I'm technically savy, but a real newb when it comes to the gotcha-ridden ground of android and carriers.
Thanks again.
- Jason
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It's likely any replacement phone you get at this point will have OF4, or at least OF3 on it. It will likely be unrootable out of the box.
There is no current bootloader unlock for ATT branded devices - if you are lucky enough to get a rootable device, you can run a the two roms in the ATT section. You can run XtreStoLite v 1.5 from the regular S6 section, and maybe other 5.0.2 roms from there as well, I'm not aware of any others being tried.
In either case, we will not have 5.1.1 until after ATT releases it.
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Thanks for the info -- this is where I get confused. If it's a 925F, and I put my AT&T sim in it, it isn't an "AT&T branded device", right? So the bootloader shouldn't be all locked up by AT&T? I should be able to put any GSM sim in there and run on that network... so can't I just do what I want with the hardware at that point without AT&T controlling me?
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It's likely any replacement phone you get at this point will have OF4, or at least OF3 on it. It will likely be unrootable out of the box.
There is no current bootloader unlock for ATT branded devices - if you are lucky enough to get a rootable device, you can run a the two roms in the ATT section. You can run XtreStoLite v 1.5 from the regular S6 section, and maybe other 5.0.2 roms from there as well, I'm not aware of any others being tried.
In either case, we will not have 5.1.1 until after ATT releases it.
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How about a simpler version...
- Can I use the "download booster" function (that AT&T removed) if I have an unlocked 925F on AT&T? Can I use 5.1 on AT&T with a non-AT&T edge?
I'm trying to work out if AT&T controls all phones or just the AT&T branded phones (925A).
Thanks.
Oh, guess I misunderstood your situation. Since you have an F model, you should be able to do whatever you want in terms of root/rom, just follow the instructions over there. I think as long as your APN is set up correctly, you should be set. As long as its working now, worst case would be full factory reflash of what you're currently running. Just remember if you root in a way that trips Knox, it's tripped forever.
I think I've seen people posting that they had download booster enabled while on ATT, but I don't recall seeing any comments about whether or not it actually worked.
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I'm new so I can't post links but the first one is on a website called Android geeks and I found it after searching att s6 edge root. The other one is on a website called tech chomps. Hopefully they can be found...
Found some website claiming to have hacked kernels capable of root in my annual scouring of the web praying that I can regain control of my phone...should I have hope in this?
Just thought id share my finding here, for anyone passing by please exercise caution when browsing these sites, I know nothing about them and just found them. I am hoping someone on here can drop in about the legitimacy of these sites before I test them.
I haven't heard of those but am doubtful there is root unless it's for devices that are on old software. I just got an s6 edge thats on 6.0.1, no root.
If you want root, don't buy ATT devices. Most T-Mobile devices work on ATT network (with LTE and all), and have unlocked bootloaders allowing root. That is my understanding at least and my experience with the Note 4.
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I haven't heard of those but am doubtful there is root unless it's for devices that are on old software. I just got an s6 edge thats on 6.0.1, no root.
If you want root, don't buy ATT devices. Most T-Mobile devices work on ATT network (with LTE and all), and have unlocked bootloaders allowing root. That is my understanding at least and my experience with the Note 4.
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Will a root ever be possible? I'm new to this and is there no chance that I will be able to root my 6.0.1 att s6 edge?
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Will a root ever be possible? I'm new to this and is there no chance that I will be able to root my 6.0.1 att s6 edge?
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To be honest, I don't know, but I would say odds are better that you wont get root than that you will.