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Moto's Touchless Control vs Google Voice Search 5.0

What do you guys prefer? What have you been using?
Have you noticed anything that one has and the other doesn't? I've noticed that Motorola's implementation just opens up Google and therefore it seems to be a little bit of a slower solution.
What do you guys think?

zgroten said:
I've noticed that Motorola's implementation just opens up Google and therefore it seems to be a little bit of a slower solution.
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It opens Google for commands that the Moto app doesn't handle itself. So it can be a bit slower but the Lollipop version is actually pretty fast compared to the KK version.

I still use moto because I like the hands free stuff at home and in the car. But yes, simple things like "what's the weather like" and "what time is it" takes a lot longer.

zgroten said:
What do you guys prefer? What have you been using?
Have you noticed anything that one has and the other doesn't? I've noticed that Motorola's implementation just opens up Google and therefore it seems to be a little bit of a slower solution.
What do you guys think?
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Do I have a choice? Is it possible to replace the motorola version with the google version and still have the 'always listening' capability?

ppdd said:
Do I have a choice? Is it possible to replace the motorola version with the google version and still have the 'always listening' capability?
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You can disable the Moto app in favor of the Google version but you will lose always listening unless you're plugged in.

No you can now have Google Now on always listening even with the screen off and locked.

zgroten said:
No you can now have Google Now on always listening even with the screen off and locked.
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Source?

Me right now running lollipop

zgroten said:
Me right now running lollipop
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My Google Now app (on the Lollipop OTA) doesn't give me the option for always-on listening. How did you enable it?

Make sure you have the newest version and just "enable while screen is locked"

No go. You've apparently got a newer version than I do. Here's what my option says:
"When locked:
Allow "Ok Google" to start a voice search of action from a secure lock screen"
Did you install Search or the Now Launcher or some other libraries from APK mirror? Or did you just install the latest version from the play store?

zgroten said:
Make sure you have the newest version and just "enable while screen is locked"
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Works from the lock screen, but it doesn't give you the ability to use it when the screen is powered off, unless it's just a problem with my phone. Only the Moto app seems to let me do that.

I literally just read an article today about the newest version of Google search and installed the apk. That could be it.

Thanks. Can you direct us to where you read the article and where you got the file?

johnclevenger said:
Thanks. Can you direct us to where you read the article and where you got the file?
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After looking around, I'm not even sure this is possible. I know you say, zgroten, that you can search with the screen off, but are you _really_ sure you can do it while you're unplugged?
Google, in their blog post, listed only the "Nexus 6, Nexus 9 or Samsung Galaxy Note4" as phones capable of using always-on listening. They did not mention the Moto X 2014.

Yes in the new search it is always listening. The function works on several non moto phones as well.
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Pimp****420, do you have a source for this? If it works for you, can tell/link us to how you got it working. We're on the latest Google search with the latest google now launcher and it doesn't work for us.

[Q] Any luck with Android Auto? [/Q]

Today I received the Pioneer 4100NEX to replace my water damaged 8000NEX in my truck. It's said to be compatible with Android 5.0+ after installing the AA app, but I'm not having any luck with my T-mo Note4. I've tried CM12, Slim and PacMan ROMs, each of them get recognized by the head unit and automatically launches AA, but the very first page "accept/terms" on the HU has overlapping text and no way to get around it. I installed the latest firmware with no change.
Has anyone else had better luck in getting the Note 4 to work with an AA compatible system? Not that it matters, but my old Nexus 5 works with AA without a hitch.

I have just bought pioneer AVH-X8750BT and I connected my unrooted N910f and android auto works great.
Must say I have it only few hours now. Have to play a bit with it.

shaharda said:
I have just bought pioneer AVH-X8750BT and I connected my unrooted N910f and android auto works great.
Must say I have it only few hours now. Have to play a bit with it.
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Just curious, which ROM are you running?

mindtrip1016 said:
Just curious, which ROM are you running?
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5.0.1 lollipop N910FXXU1BOC3

mindtrip1016 said:
Today I received the Pioneer 4100NEX to replace my water damaged 8000NEX in my truck. It's said to be compatible with Android 5.0+ after installing the AA app, but I'm not having any luck with my T-mo Note4. I've tried CM12, Slim and PacMan ROMs, each of them get recognized by the head unit and automatically launches AA, but the very first page "accept/terms" on the HU has overlapping text and no way to get around it. I installed the latest firmware with no change.
Has anyone else had better luck in getting the Note 4 to work with an AA compatible system? Not that it matters, but my old Nexus 5 works with AA without a hitch.
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Try going stock and see.. Bet ya it works. A lot of devs remove to much from roms and remove functional stuff needed to make devices work. Took me going back and forth to figure out why my heart rate monitor was not working.
BAD ASS NOTE 4

Last I read the Tmo variant didn't have a stock version of 5.0, which is a requirement for Android Auto. I'll try it though. I have nothing to lose at this point.
No luck. I got the "compatibility error" when trying to get Android Auto from the Play Store.

mindtrip1016 said:
Last I read the Tmo variant didn't have a stock version of 5.0, which is a requirement for Android Auto. I'll try it though. I have nothing to lose at this point.
No luck. I got the "compatibility error" when trying to get Android Auto from the Play Store.
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Not sure if it will work but try editing build prop and make it say 5.0 and see if you can fool it.
BAD ASS NOTE 4

mindtrip1016 said:
Last I read the Tmo variant didn't have a stock version of 5.0, which is a requirement for Android Auto. I'll try it though. I have nothing to lose at this point.
No luck. I got the "compatibility error" when trying to get Android Auto from the Play Store.
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You have to be rooted and on 5.0 stock rom I will testing soon I will be posting soon as of right now ive been using AR UNchained with AUTO MATE bnot the same but we shall see I went from the 8000 NEX to 4100 NEX and **** better work..

blackwell387 said:
You have to be rooted and on 5.0 stock rom I will testing soon I will be posting soon as of right now ive been using AR UNchained with AUTO MATE bnot the same but we shall see I went from the 8000 NEX to 4100 NEX and **** better work..
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So does AR unchained work with the 4100? Im still running stock 4.4 haven't rooted yet.

Well UPDATE I just downloaded note 4 lollipop 5.0.1 T mobile and I have no issues with android auto.

Downgrade from Android Wear 2.0 to Wear 1.5

Hi
I've made the update Android Wear 2.0 on my LG G Watch R (through the Play Store).
However, i really do not like the new interface and how notifications are now displayed.
Is it possible de downgrade Android Wear to old version 1.5? How should I do that?
Thanks for your help, have a nice day.
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I'd like to know this too. 2.0 was so far a downgrade for me: removed the quick cinema-mode (double click the button), the new cards do not have a "1/3rd visible only" peeking mode, making e.g. music player cards much less useful, etc.

I totally agree with you @nagi603!
I have described how to downgrade to Android Wear 1.5 in this post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71823043&postcount=3

Thank you. I hate 2.0. Downgrade worked great.
I can't stand it when Google fixes what isn't broken. No Wear wasn't perfect, but 2.0 is crap.
nicodvt said:
I totally agree with you @nagi603!
I have described how to downgrade to Android Wear 1.5 in this post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71823043&postcount=3
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Yup, same opinion here. Wear was way better then 2.0. I also notice a big difference in speed and battery usage.
@nicodvt thanks for the guide.

You're welcome @Chmeleon!

Life saver.
Thank you @nicodvt for these instructions. I am so glad to have my watch back. Google already bricked my Droid Turbo a couple of months ago, so if I had lost my watch too, I would have thought about going to Apple.... These updates break perfectly working equipment. That's just not right.
Thanks

Would this work for a Moto 360 2nd Gen, please?

https://forum.xda-developers.com/g-watch-r/general/to-android-wear-1-5-complete-guide-t3592606
There's also this thread!

Hello,
Can I use this with my LG Urbane (w150)?
Hate wear 2.0. It is a real downgrade in all matters....

mtmello said:
Hello,
Can I use this with my LG Urbane (w150)?
Hate wear 2.0. It is a real downgrade in all matters....
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I so agree with you. Cant believe that got released. :/

Can anyone help how to downgrade to 1.5 in fossil Q Marshall watch ?
Can anyone help how to downgrade to 1.5 in fossil Q Marshall watch ?

This is so helpful - thank you. One question: now I've got 1.5 back on my watch, how do I stop it from updating to 2.0? It's already done it once - reinstalling 1.5 was simpler second time round

is there any option to instal on moto360 2nd Gen?

I know this is an old thread, but something to consider is that with Android 8.0, I'm seeing notifications from apps on wear 1.5 telling me they are no longer compatible when I launch then on my Sony smartwatch 3.
Eventually, you'll have to move to wear 2.x, if you are able (smartwatch 3 is not).

Any news on the Urbane 2 LTE update to Wear 2.0?

The stories said LG committed to May and it is May 29th- Anybody heard anything new lately?

aaronc_98 said:
The stories said LG committed to May and it is May 29th- Anybody heard anything new lately?
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Nope...... still waiting..... and waiting

angry
anybody else ticked off that the urbane has 2.0 but not the v2....what kind of crap is that?

predheadtx said:
anybody else ticked off that the urbane has 2.0 but not the v2....what kind of crap is that?
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Not really, the complaint level of AW2 is so high, of laggy performance, we may be having a favor done for us as tuning is being done before we get. There was an update for earlier released watches this last day which is getting positive feedback. So that is making me think we'll get it very soon now, I think tomorrow.

nigelhealy said:
Not really, the complaint level of AW2 is so high, of laggy performance, we may be having a favor done for us as tuning is being done before we get. There was an update for earlier released watches this last day which is getting positive feedback. So that is making me think we'll get it very soon now, I think tomorrow.
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Lol swing and a miss. The wear 2.0 developer preview got taken down though, so either its coming soonish or we're just getting f***** on this one. All the indications are there.why would we buy the watch sport if we can flash the 2.0 developer preview?

tooandrew said:
Lol swing and a miss. The wear 2.0 developer preview got taken down though, so either its coming soonish or we're just getting f***** on this one. All the indications are there.why would we buy the watch sport if we can flash the 2.0 developer preview?
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I downloaded and saved the most recent AW1.5 and AW2 DP. I tried AW2 DP and it was awful, so went back to AW1.5 which I saved in case when AW2 officially released it is still awful.
We're being done a favor getting AW2 late but now I see happy noises on the June release, I'm seeing less reason to wait. But if there is a reason its no bad thing. The only thing I can't do is Android Pay.
If anyone does have the time to try AW2 then by all means flash DP and realize its a totally different everything interface, as I've been on AW now >2 years I find it awkward interface, noobs would take less retraining.
Someone likely has the googleapis link, I just have the file locally backedup.

Android Wear 2.0 fow the W200* is finaly here (well via OTA in Korea... For us via adb sideload )
Here it is the file: http://android.googleapis.com/packa.../af88cfbc96ad65e7b728e27c2decbdc6fb0e08e8.zip
P.S. It works perfectly! Android pay too!!!

Anyone tried the Korean firmware ? I didn't think 2.0 was that bad at all. Few things to fix but added a lot.

SuperlativeB said:
Anyone tried the Korean firmware ? I didn't think 2.0 was that bad at all. Few things to fix but added a lot.
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I updated earlier today. Made my first successful Android Pay purchase this afternoon. I never tried the preview so I'm still learning all the tricks/quirks of 2.0.

Sweet . Very cool , are you a US model though ? And did you use an OTA update or use PC with unlocked bootloader to flash it ?

SuperlativeB said:
Sweet . Very cool , are you a US model though ? And did you use an OTA update or use PC with unlocked bootloader to flash it ?
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Yes I have the AT&T model, W200A. I used the minimal adb and fastboot tool to sideload the zip file from my PC. I didn't have to unlock the bootloader.

i updated my w200a today with the korea version. however it felt more like another preview than a final release. Lag is present like on the preview, overheats somewhat easily and the battery drains way faster when you are using it than when you are on 1.5. At least this is my case on the w200a. I did a fsctory reset to see if that solved but no. Same result.

I have the at&t urbane 2 LTE (unlocked)
Until today I was running developer preview (nemo-nvf41u-factory-e269c504)
I had an update come through which has given me:
build number NXH20E
(ANDROID WEAR 2.0.0.159006699)
with security patch 1st May 2017.
The top and bottom buttons are working (re programmed through the options)
Android pay works.
I am in the UK.

furfuxacheman said:
I have the at&t urbane 2 LTE (unlocked)
build number NXH20E
(ANDROID WEAR 2.0.0.159006699)
with security patch 1st May 2017.
The top and bottom buttons are working (re programmed through the options)
Android pay works.
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I'm in the US and I updated using ADB and the file captured from the ota in Korea and these numbers match exactly to mine.
Found any bugs/issues yet? I've had an occasional lag or two. Android Pay is working and I've successfully tracked runs with GPS using ghostracer paired to the phone through cell data (my main usage requirement).

Not found any bugs on mine.
I have a few side loaded apps that may have been causing the odd glitch now and again whilst on the developer preview, but nothing since the update.
(Side loaded es file explorer so I could use MP3 ringtone on the watch & Google drive to download / upload)

I'm in the US with ATT version. Just got OTA last night. So far so good.

Wear OS 3.0, A Possibility?

Hey guys. Just a general question here. And, some sort of a poll here too.
Would LG roll out Android Oreo for the next update or Wear OS 3.0? Do you guys think that LG would continue to roll out updates for this watch?

jereyeap said:
Hey guys. Just a general question here. And, some sort of a poll here too.
Would LG roll out Android Oreo for the next update or Wear OS 3.0? Do you guys think that LG would continue to roll out updates for this watch?
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Watch was abandoned way last year

Unfortunately, R.I.P this great watch....

Actually, I would guess yes - WearOS is now a layer over the firmware and it is updated as an app.
Google has said that "all devices currently on WearOS 2.0 will get 3.0

Yess definetly! They said only the LG G Watch won't get the update

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Actually, I would guess yes - WearOS is now a layer over the firmware and it is updated as an app.
Google has said that "all devices currently on WearOS 2.0 will get 3.0
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Android Wear 2.0(one we have in lg urbane) != WearOS 2.0, so i think we won't have any updates.

I received the Wear OS 2.1 update today. Long live the Urbane!

kbm25 said:
I received the Wear OS 2.1 update today. Long live the Urbane!
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The update is great. Wear OS Team worked hard.

Guys, how did you get it? My watch keeps saying 'system up to date'

sudaltsov said:
Guys, how did you get it? My watch keeps saying 'system up to date'
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I had checked a few times, but it just showed up yesterday morning. Didn't do anything special.

sudaltsov said:
Guys, how did you get it? My watch keeps saying 'system up to date'
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It is not a "system update" but just a Playstore update for the watch UI, no change in OS
Automatic if your Playstore watch apps update is set to "auto" or manual if not.

kbm25 said:
I had checked a few times, but it just showed up yesterday morning. Didn't do anything special.
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I think that the only thing to do is to wait. Did you like the update?

DarthOrus said:
I think that the only thing to do is to wait. Did you like the update?
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Yes, the left/right/up/down swiping is more intuitive and the notifications are more detailed. The watch seems snappier for most things, except the Play Store. This update fixes many of the mistakes Google made with the 2.0 update (like swiping left or right to change the watch face).

Just a heads up that my brother's LG Watch Urbane got the new UI update today. My Huawei Watch still hasn't, but that's besides the point. The update is going to happen,

I got it this morning

Also instaled 2.16 when watch few days ago offered. But don´t know, in my watch battery keep less than with older version. Will do reset today and will test tomorrow. I think that less lasting battery is because of much more notifications from phone, but will see tomorrow. I have W150.

It's great to see that our watch is still updated !
I find as well that batery life is less as before.
Before update, i could finish the day with 50%, and now, i finish at 30%.

Just got the update today!
Wow it is a lot quicker and more smooth. They added cool stuff like battery saving mode, more settings when swiping down, easier to read the notifications and so on...
I actually liked it a lot and happy to see it still gets the UI updates. I cant tell anything about the battery life since the update happened a few hours ago. Great work LG!