A few days ago, I started getting random apparently blank MMS messages from unknown urls in Hangouts. Looks like my phone / number is being targeted by someone trying to leverage one of the recent Stagefright vulnerabilities. I've got auto-downloading of MMS messages disabled in Hangouts and the stock Sony Messaging client, so probably (?) no immediate danger. But I am only on the last Kit Kat rom because I've been bitten before by abysmally bad battery life in Lollipop.
So options...
5..1.1 - sounds like battery life is better now than it was originally in LP. Can anyone verify that all the Stagefright vulnerabilities are even fixed in the latest for the Z3c? I have a Z1C test phone around the office here, and last I checked its latest 5.1.1 rom did not resolve all of those issues.
6.0 Concept - looks promising....but early MM wasn't immune to Stagefright problems either. Can anyone check if whatever anyone not part of the early program can install is free of this vulnerability?
Unfortunately, I need to run a secure app platform / email app for work, which means that I can't root or run xposed - stock roms only.
johdaxx said:
A few days ago, I started getting random apparently blank MMS messages from unknown urls in Hangouts. Looks like my phone / number is being targeted by someone trying to leverage one of the recent Stagefright vulnerabilities. I've got auto-downloading of MMS messages disabled in Hangouts and the stock Sony Messaging client, so probably (?) no immediate danger. But I am only on the last Kit Kat rom because I've been bitten before by abysmally bad battery life in Lollipop.
So options...
5..1.1 - sounds like battery life is better now than it was originally in LP. Can anyone verify that all the Stagefright vulnerabilities are even fixed in the latest for the Z3c? I have a Z1C test phone around the office here, and last I checked its latest 5.1.1 rom did not resolve all of those issues.
6.0 Concept - looks promising....but early MM wasn't immune to Stagefright problems either. Can anyone check if whatever anyone not part of the early program can install is free of this vulnerability?
Unfortunately, I need to run a secure app platform / email app for work, which means that I can't root or run xposed - stock roms only.
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The whole stagefright vulnerability affects a huge percentage of devices running LP, while Android has claimed to have "fixed" most of the vulnerabilities some still remain in 5.1 but they are really not that impactful when it comes to using the phone.
With regards to security, you are never really "safe". The very fact you download apps like Facebook or Youtube already makes your internet life an open book, probably right now your phone sends anonymous data to Sony at set intervals.
True enough - no phone anyone really wants to hack into is 100% secure, and the more popular, the more they're going to be targeted. Specifically, I was wondering if anyone had run this tool:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zimperium.stagefrightdetector
on either 5.1.1 or 6.0 Concept? I have access to a few different phones that pass all these checks, but several that don't. The standard 4.4.4 on the Z3c fails all but one. A small comfort - but figured it was worth checking.
As for PI leakage, true, but different issue. I'm personally much happier with Google's methods where we have a dashboard that shows what information they're slurping up by the second, than others (like many manufacturers) that bury it in a massive T&C. We at least have some control over that vs. exposure to these security holes.
Hi guys,
I have a debranded P10 c432 on emui 8. Firmware Finder report a VTR-LGRP2-OVS 9.0.1 Full OTA it's a strange name, very different from the one based on emui 8 that are somehting like "VTR-L09C432".
So:
Can I install that fw and go to emui 9?
Is it worth updating? the system is slow? battery life? how about the video stabilization?
Can I root?
Can I downgrade, eventually?
thank you in advance
This method work for my
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78850439&postcount=1334
1. The best you can do untill ota arrives is to try via hicare. That way i managed to install emui9 on my vtr-l29c432. The firmwares on ff might cause a brick if it's not the right one for your device so i don't think it's worth the risk.
2.In terms of performace i find the overall system a bit faster and smoother in transitions so for me it's a worth upgrade. No slowdowns or whatever, it's quick and stable with no issues so far (approx. 2weeks of use). Battery seems to be the same, depends on your usage, it may dry fast if you always on screen or it can last a full day if you don't stress it out. About the video i'm not so sure about it but on 1080p 60fps seems to be fine but again i'm not sure about it. I dont record that much on the phone, i ocasionally take some pictures and the camera seems to be fine. Maybe with future updates will be better. It's all about your preferences.
3. I don't use root but maybe it's possible with magisk.
4.Yes, with hisuite.
first thank you so much @Firicel69
then
Necrodaemon said:
This method work for my
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78850439&postcount=1334
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mmmm why I need all these hisuite stuff for OVS if I have the unlocked bl and twrp installed? I don't understand this OVS thing...
RealPsygnosis said:
first thank you so much @Firicel69
then
mmmm why I need all these hisuite stuff for OVS if I have the unlocked bl and twrp installed? I don't understand this OVS thing...
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When you have bootloader unlocked an TWRP installed make it easy
Look for upgrading to pie Tutorial at this Forum by @Jannomag!
Last Version to use on FF is 9.0.1.165...
I have a P10, rebranded from L09 to L29 with bootloader unlock...
@Jannomag s tutorial is working fine, no Problems with updating so far...
RealPsygnosis said:
Hi guys,
I have a debranded P10 c432 on emui 8. Firmware Finder report a VTR-LGRP2-OVS 9.0.1 Full OTA it's a strange name, very different from the one based on emui 8 that are somehting like "VTR-L09C432".
So:
Can I install that fw and go to emui 9?
Is it worth updating? the system is slow? battery life? how about the video stabilization?
Can I root?
Can I downgrade, eventually?
thank you in advance
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To upgrade to EMUI 9, you need a full firmware - those are listed as VTR-L29C432E1R1P9B165 (9.0.1.165), as an example. The LGRP2 firmwares, those are core system update images for non-Chinese devices (the Bnnn portion of the build number); they split the pieces apart into separately versioned bits with Pie.
I can't say anything for EMUI 9 features specifically, as I installed it for the updated vendor image, not EMUI.
You can root, with Magisk. They removed the ability to boot with a ramdisk in a normal boot, so Magisk takes over recovery instead; newer releases can boot both ways by button detection at boot time.
Downgrade - hisuite.
My battery life went down, but to early to say, because theese Huaweis is smart and needs time to learn habits and battery use... In two weeks I know more.
I don't think it's worth it. Smoother animations and better zoom photo quality are the only upsides. Other than that:
- camera app is much less intuitive, swiping between modes is slow and irritating, that's one of the things that should not be copied from iOS
- no video stabilization whatsoever
- image color processing is a hit and miss (it hates nature), when it gets slightly darker images are too dark
- I lost 1 hour of screen on time
- gallery app is stupid, it lost all the customization. You can't change folders to a list, you can't even rearrange the order!
- screenshot "mechanic" is stupid, it adds one unnecessary step to the process if you want to edit it or something
- themes app is unuseable, it got worse going from Nougat to Oreo, now it's just a messy store. Keep the theme you're on right now and forget about it.
- NFC issues (file transfer works, mobile payments don't).
In short - If your P10 works fine don't bother with the update.
majaczos said:
I don't think it's worth it. Smoother animations and better zoom photo quality are the only upsides. Other than that:
- camera app is much less intuitive, swiping between modes is slow and irritating, that's one of the things that should not be copied from iOS
- no video stabilization whatsoever
- image color processing is a hit and miss (it hates nature), when it gets slightly darker images are too dark
- I lost 1 hour of screen on time
- gallery app is stupid, it lost all the customization. You can't change folders to a list, you can't even rearrange the order!
- screenshot "mechanic" is stupid, it adds one unnecessary step to the process if you want to edit it or something
- themes app is unuseable, it got worse going from Nougat to Oreo, now it's just a messy store. Keep the theme you're on right now and forget about it.
- NFC issues (file transfer works, mobile payments don't).
In short - If your P10 works fine don't bother with the update.
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Can underline this.
Also the Memo-App is bad now, no more tick-boxes for quick notes (which is really annoying) and other small issues.
On of the most annyoing is the changing of notification colors on the lockscreen. This is so infuriating for me.....
I dig the Pie, better blutooth, and cams and gallery is nice here, also like the look on swipe menu, and maneuver...
The battery is better today.. I've blockcharged while I was in the shower and 50% now...
It's an old phone.. so I usually block charge abit on the night, in weekend I tend to stay up abit later also...
The phone is faster loading and multitasking.
Gallery is nice? What's nice about it? Blinding white background while viewing your pictures? Or the fact that you cannot do such basic thing as rearranging the order of your folders?
Pie on p10 is very battery efficient. It's so efficient at killing background processes that even calendar notifications won't work properly anymore. Last time I had alarm 22 hours and some minutes late. All other notifications appear at very random times, but always very late. Notifications work fine only for a few days until the app probably gets kicked out of ram. Completeley useless.
And then there is camera with much worse low light quality, bluetooth problems, useless themes app and bunch of other completely useless features and I'm slowly having enough of huawei and their updates. I've had my p10 since march 2017 and I don't think it ever worked without at least one major bug.
Ok I get the point, pie is for someone good and for - too many - a mess. But, maybe because it's a beta? On FF I cannot understand if it9s a beta release or not. Because some other versions of oreo are been released on April with Pie.
And BTW I have spend some time to read some threads here (dated March) and the @Jannomag scripts and it's obvious that it's too early to install it. There is no TWRP, and install magisk is completed and unreliable.
So maybe I will update oreo and wait that pie is mature enough at least that I could install twrp and magisk. Because, honestly, I don't care that gallery app or themes are worst, I could always replace them,the importance is that the system is usable.
It's not a beta. I got it through HiCare app, it's an official OTA update. Besides - most of the things I'm complaining about are present in P30 as well. That's how EMUI 9 is supposed to work.
@Imnotdriving, how is Bluetooth better? Asking because it might be a factor in my decision to upgrade ?
As it turns out, my phone got the pie update last night so I got my own answer. One previously stubborn to connect speaker now connects quickly with aptx Bluetooth hence confirming that Bluetooth is improved.
Otherwise I like the new gesture navigation option in this update. Beyond that, not much is different for the way I use the phone.
There are a lot of new services running and I disabled about a dozen of the low hanging fruit. There's more that I'm sure I'll disable over time once I find out what they do.
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@Imnotdriving, how is Bluetooth better? Asking because it might be a factor in my decision to upgrade [emoji6]
As it turns out, my phone got the pie update last night so I got my own answer. One previously stubborn to connect speaker now connects quickly with aptx Bluetooth hence confirming that Bluetooth is improved.
Otherwise I like the new gesture navigation option in this update. Beyond that, not much is different for the way I use the phone.
There are a lot of new services running and I disabled about a dozen of the low hanging fruit. There's more that I'm sure I'll disable over time once I find out what they do.
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The information in the update link spesofic stated that blutooth functions would be better, I don't remember exactly what it said.
Guys what package should I use for upgrade?
VTR-LGRP2-OVS 9.0.1.203
Or
VTR-L29C432E1R1P9B185
Both full ota
The OVS one is just one package update_full_base. Zip but it seems newer then the b185
RealPsygnosis said:
Guys what package should I use for upgrade?
VTR-LGRP2-OVS 9.0.1.203
Or
VTR-L29C432E1R1P9B185
Both full ota
The OVS one is just one package update_full_base. Zip but it seems newer then the b185
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For the initial update, the LGRP1/LGRP2 packages shouldn't be used - while it's marked FullOTA, it's not a complete build, as it's missing various partitions that need to be flashed in an upgrade from Oreo. (Basically, you'll brick if you flash one of those.)
If you're already on Pie, either works equally well.
irony_delerium said:
For the initial update, the LGRP1/LGRP2 packages shouldn't be used - while it's marked FullOTA, it's not a complete build, as it's missing various partitions that need to be flashed in an upgrade from Oreo. (Basically, you'll brick if you flash one of those.)
If you're already on Pie, either works equally well.
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So I should use the VTR-L29C432E1R1P9B185 package with the script here? After that I can update pie with LGRP2? But is LGRP2-OVS a sort of beta?
Do you advise me to use the jannomag script or the hi suite trick with dns?
I hope everything goes fine, I want to do a full wipe and install magisk
RealPsygnosis said:
So I should use the VTR-L29C432E1R1P9B185 package with the script here? After that I can update pie with LGRP2? But is LGRP2-OVS a sort of beta?
Do you advise me to use the jannomag script or the hi suite trick with dns?
I hope everything goes fine, I want to do a full wipe and install magisk
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I've done all of my updates to P using a nocheck recovery. I can't say anything about the tricks with HiSuite or the script you've mentioned, though they should work just fine.
As far as the build numbers go: LGRP1-CHN and LGRP2-OVS are the China and everywhere else builds, respectively. It's possible that some of them might be beta, though I suspect the release notes would give up some indication of that.
Since the OTA for android 10 became available, I have disabled system updates. This is because a number of apps I use are incompatible with android 10, or require root on android 10; these issues do not exist on android Pie. Are these bad reasons to not update the OS? The most important reason to keep the software updated is for the security patches, so would it be smarter for me to allow and install the updates again, or is it a non-issue?
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Since the OTA for android 10 became available, I have disabled system updates. This is because a number of apps I use are incompatible with android 10, or require root on android 10; these issues do not exist on android Pie. Are these bad reasons to not update the OS? The most important reason to keep the software updated is for the security patches, so would it be smarter for me to allow and install the updates again, or is it a non-issue?
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Its personal prefference. Your phone will not lostnits value or any functions....some people like to stick to old guns....
Remember once you go to android 10...there is no way back..... its your call.
You will also not get any security updates as these are generally tied into the firmware updates... If there is a nasty exploit found you may be vulnerable...
If you really need those apps then don't update. If they get support for android 10 or you find alternatives to them which work on android 10 then you'll only gain features with android 10. It's the same firmware as the S20 has - OneUI 2.1 with pretty much all features from it which are not hardware dependent, minus bixby routines (but there is goodlock routines instead which is the same for basic functionality).
As a side note I'd advise against rooting android 10, no point. Just get goodlock modules from apkmirror and use nicelock or finelock to launch them and you're good to go.
One of the reasons some people (including myself) prefer to not update their OS is battery life. I personally experienced a degradation in battery life since updating from KitKat when i had the note 4, and i had the same experience with the s7 when updating from Marshmallow to Nougat (i always do fresh OS installs through Odin). The gain in terms of usability was really minor as well.
Right now i am using note 9 and keeping it on the latest Oreo, no complaints.
For security updates as long as you know what to install you should be good.
Just adding my 2cents.
Depends... if you using any mobile financial apps or hold any confidential data on your device then yes. It is foolish to not update the OS on your device. But if you don't, then it would be ok, I suppose
Hi,
on S10 phone (which I bought mostly because of the GearVR function) after updating the software to OneUI 4.0, the entire Oculus subsystem and everything related to GearVR stopped working. The fact that it wasn't written in capital letters before the update name is rude, but to the point:
Is there some solution to run GearVR subsystem on Android 12 and OneUI newer than 4.0? Can it be installed as normal app, and if so, how is possible to get it? Maybe it is possible to downgrade GearVR service app? Ora ny other option?
Many thanks for your help!
Just wondering but any luck with finding a solution to this? I have a snapdragon S10+ and I am very much missing my vr capabilities on this BS upgrade that killed it.
I was wondering myself. since I wanted to get back into VR and get myself a Gear VR headset, but my S10+ has been updated to android 12. I tried replacing/downgrading the built in GearVR service app with com.samsung.android.hmt.vrsvc_3.2.06.18-320618000 (extracted from G975FXXSEFUL1) through magisk replace function in priv-app, but that just force-closes (tried opening in developer mode).
I went ahead and unpacked/dex2jar the \system\framework\framework.jar and \system\framework\services.jar and compared them through jd-gui and a lot of the core GearVR code has been removed/modified, so I don't believe there is any way to get core framework functionality back. only way I see is a downgrade to android 11, unfortunately.
I was hoping on an easy fix/some simple patching, as this S10+ is still my daily driver, but alas....
Running the downgraded VR service, it reports VR framework version as -1 in app/settings.
New (G975FXXUGHVJ5) ROM is also missing \system\etc\security\oculus.crt
I am in no way a developer, coder or hacker, so I did my research with limited knowledge. maybe someone with more knowledge and interest will step up eventually... but I guess if it was that easy, it would have been cracked already.
Does it work if you use Odin to downgrade to Android 11?