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Hi fellas, long time no see!
So, first of all, yes, I've used the search, but what I've found is threads about wet phones, mine I believe is already dry.
Situation: I'm in the club, glass of absolut and redbull in my hand, phone in my jeans pocket, extra glass of absolut w/redbull on the bar next to me. Fat drunk aproaches the bar and tips my glass with his elbow, all my drink spilled over my clothes. After a brief discussion I realized the guy was too drunk and was a worthless douche so I let it go. I reach for my phone and realize my pocket is soaked wet, when I take it out, phone is out, red light dim. So I turn it off, take it apart and forget about it til the next day. Next day, it began to turn on, but shut itslef off after a few secs, so I take it apart again (that is back cover, battery, SIM and sd, I dont have the screwdrivers to go further), cleaned what I could with alcohol, let it vent in front of a fan for a few hours, then in a bowl of rice for 2 days, no good.
So I got an extra phone and let it sit for more than a month. The other day I decided to give it another try and voila! it worked, had to be dry by now! used it for a day, left it charging, when I came back, it was off again, unresponsive. I have an extra battery, so I got one of those universal battery chargers, because I though the problem could be the phone not charging the battery. It was (even when the light turns on red and it says charging and all). So, first weird thing, light turns on red, screen says charging, but USB wont wont actually charge the battery if it is somewhere below.. 70% maybe, it does charge if it is lets say about 80% or above.
I used it like this for a week or so, and now, when I turn it on, after the bootscreen and the initial loop, the phone now powers itself off (with the text "turning off" -or whatever it says- and vibrating and all), even with the battery full. Tried with both batteries full, plugged in the usb (the light is green when full, and will even charge), erased battery stats (recovery works fine) but the damn thing wont load android properly!
Any ideas what might be causing this? it should be dry by now (its been like 2 months already and I let it vent and used the rice method), it doesnt smell funny (you know, like burnt, like when sth short circuits).
btw, also tried flashing the ROM again (i always have a couple in the sd just in case) and didn't work neither, does exactly the same.
i know it is a bit long to read but i wanted to give you the most insight i could. i know that it works! it did a couple days ago, but something got screwed with the startup and i dont know what it is!
i see that u tried flashing the ROM again, but just to be sure u did do a super wipe correct?
this is very strange though, and yeah it should be dried by now.
Thanks for the reply, and yes, I did! I'm sure that is not the problem :/
My camera flash diode is always on, even when the phone is powered off. I first noticed it when I went to charge my phone over night next to my bed. I lay the phone on its face so the LED notification doesn't show. I noticed a slight glow from the flash diode. I thought at first it only happened when I was charging my phone. Today, while at work, I powered down my phone and again noticed the light. For me, its always on. I just got off the phone with T-Mobile and they are going to over night me a replacement. My friend's S6 does not have this issue, so not all of them are having this. I encourage everyone to go into a dark room and check your flash diode.
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My camera flash diode is always on, even when the phone is powered off. I first noticed it when I went to charge my phone over night next to my bed. I lay the phone on its face so the LED notification doesn't show. I noticed a slight glow from the flash diode. I thought at first it only happened when I was charging my phone. Today, while at work, I powered down my phone and again noticed the light. For me, its always on. I just got off the phone with T-Mobile and they are going to over night me a replacement. My friend's S6 does not have this issue, so not all of them are having this. I encourage everyone to go into a dark room and check your flash diode.
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I don't notice this on mone, but here's a complete guess. Do you have the quick reply feature enabled? I'm referring to the one that lets you hold your finger over the heart rate monitor for a couple seconds to reject a call and reply with a text. Maybe that required the diode to be on in order to detect your finger?
Then again, it would only need to be on while your phone is ringing... Anyway, just a thought. Hope you get it resolved!
Edit: I'm dumb. Nevermind. I read it again and realized it even happens while the phone is off. It's late, I'm gonna sleep now...
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My camera flash diode is always on, even when the phone is powered off. I first noticed it when I went to charge my phone over night next to my bed. I lay the phone on its face so the LED notification doesn't show. I noticed a slight glow from the flash diode. I thought at first it only happened when I was charging my phone. Today, while at work, I powered down my phone and again noticed the light. For me, its always on. I just got off the phone with T-Mobile and they are going to over night me a replacement. My friend's S6 does not have this issue, so not all of them are having this. I encourage everyone to go into a dark room and check your flash diode.
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Do you mean the red light from the fingerprint sensor (sits right next to the flash)
I noticed this as well. Its definitely the flash and it is very dim. To see it I had to be in a pitch black room and let my eyes adjust. Its probably some small leakage current through whatever off "switch" that controls the flash. I doubt its a battery drain because of the low intensity of the light. It would be easy to test by turning the phone off for a day (i think the light is still dimly lit even with phone off) and observing the battery drop over a day. Who has time for that though.
Great Work .
This could also be responsible for additional battery drain in Sleep Mode , right ?
I am researching Battery Problems before possible purchase so ...Thanks and publicize this.
I may quote you on Reddit if OK.
I have this issue too and supposedly it's going to be fixed when we get 5.1 but I don't find this a huge issue as I'm sure it doesn't affect the battery to any significance. This phone has had so many issues which sucks cuz Samsung did something right for once but little things have been a huge nuisance.
I'm not sure what's going on with my watch -- it'll be perfectly fine for a handful of hours and then it will start rebooting over and over again. Sometimes the screen won't even turn on while it reboots - I have to hold the power button down to get the screen to come on and show that it's rebooting.
When it goes into the bootloop, the watch gets noticeably hot to the touch. Not scolding, but it worried me enough that I took the watch off to let it cool down. I thought it could just be a software issue so I performed a factory reset on the watch -- alas, still having issues with it. I usually recharge overnight and while I used to have no issues making it through the day, my watch was dead before 4pm today (less than 12 hours).
Before I reach out to Samsung, does anyone have any other ideas on things I could do to troubleshoot?
I have the same Problem. Did you find out why?
My issue resolved on its own after awhile. My watch has been fine ever since. Maybe water got in it and once the water dried it was OK?
This is going to be a somewhat long thread (fair warning) because i'm going to try and give as much detail as possible. So here we go...
Disclaimer, I am not responsible for any damage to your watch if you decide to follow my method.....it worked for me
Also be advised I used this method to allow my watch to finish the boot cycle because the watch was freezing because of being on the cradle for too long and the battery getting super hot, if your watch is doing something else, this probably won't work for you.
It all started when I factory reset my watch at 15% thinking it had plenty of battery to finish the process (I know its been said many times on this thread about having 65+% battery when doing anything to your watch...I suggest you follow that rule or even just charge to 100% to make sure). So during the initial boot cycle the watch shut off. When I get home I put it on the cradle and I saw a black screen with a battery and a charging symbol on it. After that it showed the LG logo...then began the boot animation with the colored balls. After about 5-10 seconds the watch froze and turned off again. I tried everything I possibly could, keeping it on the cradle...taking it off...booting into fastboot...letting it charge.....boot into recovery....letting it charge....flashing TWRP...letting it charge....nothing would work. It ALWAYS froze and shut off. Sometimes it was during the boot cycle, sometimes inside the fastboot screen, and sometimes in recovery. I reflashed the boot/system/and even recovery images....tried different roms....nothing seemed to work.
Now here's the good news...I was able to get it to finish the boot cycle, get to the screen that said "Android starting apps" and to another screen that allowed me to actually charge the watch to 20%....and here is what I think is happening.....The cradle and/or USB connection is giving the watch enough power to turn on and keep it on...but there isn't any voltage control so its making the battery more hot than it should....thus over heating the CPU/chipboard and freezing the watch (I say this because after the watch would freeze I would have to wait a long period of time..sometimes 30 minutes...sometimes hours...before it would show me the black screen with the charging symbol again). So I asked myself...how can I keep the watch cold enough so that it doesn't overheat yet still give it enough power to finish the boot cycle? Well I ended up grabbing my icepack (it's a clay icepack with a blue cloth around it so it wasn't making direct contact to the ice pack and there was no moisture) and I ended up placing the watch on the cradle connected to the wall charger so it had enough power to turn on, see the LG Logo and I swipped from 11->5 and went into the fastboot screen. I then let it charge up for about 30 seconds, took it off the cradle and hit "start" for it to boot normally. Then I put it on the icepack for about 15 seconds (I put the bottom of the watch where the chip board is against the ice pack).....then took it off, and placed it on the cradle for 15 seconds, I repeated this over and over it allowed the battery to maintain a decent temperature and allowed the battery to charge enough to keep it on and get to the next screen that told me to charge the battery to atleast 20%. Once it got to 20% it told me to swipe to the right and it started the pairing process, once it paired and it started syncing the apps from the phone to the watch...it actually froze again because I left it on the cradle. Once I let the watch cool off I did the process over again and this time kept switching between the ice pack and the cradle until AFTER it finished syncing and I actually saw the analog watch on the screen. After that I was able to put it back on the cradle and it charged to 100% with no issues and my watch has been working perfect ever since, and I've already charged it multiple times.
I hope this helps someone else....I had my watch not working for just over and week and everyday I would try something else and this is what FINALLY fixed it. I even went as far as buying another BL-S3 battery and was going to replace it. Good luck, if anyone has any questions i'd be happy to try and answer them.
Good Luck!
thanks
Tremulant1 said:
This is going to be a somewhat long thread (fair warning) because i'm going to try and give as much detail as possible. So here we go...
Disclaimer, I am not responsible for any damage to your watch if you decide to follow my method.....it worked for me
Also be advised I used this method to allow my watch to finish the boot cycle because the watch was freezing because of being on the cradle for too long and the battery getting super hot, if your watch is doing something else, this probably won't work for you.
It all started when I factory reset my watch at 15% thinking it had plenty of battery to finish the process (I know its been said many times on this thread about having 65+% battery when doing anything to your watch...I suggest you follow that rule or even just charge to 100% to make sure). So during the initial boot cycle the watch shut off. When I get home I put it on the cradle and I saw a black screen with a battery and a charging symbol on it. After that it showed the LG logo...then began the boot animation with the colored balls. After about 5-10 seconds the watch froze and turned off again. I tried everything I possibly could, keeping it on the cradle...taking it off...booting into fastboot...letting it charge.....boot into recovery....letting it charge....flashing TWRP...letting it charge....nothing would work. It ALWAYS froze and shut off. Sometimes it was during the boot cycle, sometimes inside the fastboot screen, and sometimes in recovery. I reflashed the boot/system/and even recovery images....tried different roms....nothing seemed to work.
Now here's the good news...I was able to get it to finish the boot cycle, get to the screen that said "Android starting apps" and to another screen that allowed me to actually charge the watch to 20%....and here is what I think is happening.....The cradle and/or USB connection is giving the watch enough power to turn on and keep it on...but there isn't any voltage control so its making the battery more hot than it should....thus over heating the CPU/chipboard and freezing the watch (I say this because after the watch would freeze I would have to wait a long period of time..sometimes 30 minutes...sometimes hours...before it would show me the black screen with the charging symbol again). So I asked myself...how can I keep the watch cold enough so that it doesn't overheat yet still give it enough power to finish the boot cycle? Well I ended up grabbing my icepack (it's a clay icepack with a blue cloth around it so it wasn't making direct contact to the ice pack and there was no moisture) and I ended up placing the watch on the cradle connected to the wall charger so it had enough power to turn on, see the LG Logo and I swipped from 11->5 and went into the fastboot screen. I then let it charge up for about 30 seconds, took it off the cradle and hit "start" for it to boot normally. Then I put it on the icepack for about 15 seconds (I put the bottom of the watch where the chip board is against the ice pack).....then took it off, and placed it on the cradle for 15 seconds, I repeated this over and over it allowed the battery to maintain a decent temperature and allowed the battery to charge enough to keep it on and get to the next screen that told me to charge the battery to atleast 20%. Once it got to 20% it told me to swipe to the right and it started the pairing process, once it paired and it started syncing the apps from the phone to the watch...it actually froze again because I left it on the cradle. Once I let the watch cool off I did the process over again and this time kept switching between the ice pack and the cradle until AFTER it finished syncing and I actually saw the analog watch on the screen. After that I was able to put it back on the cradle and it charged to 100% with no issues and my watch has been working perfect ever since, and I've already charged it multiple times.
I hope this helps someone else....I had my watch not working for just over and week and everyday I would try something else and this is what FINALLY fixed it. I even went as far as buying another BL-S3 battery and was going to replace it. Good luck, if anyone has any questions i'd be happy to try and answer them.
Good Luck!
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i wanna thank you so much for the information your provided i looked everywhere and lg customer service was no help this was the only thing that helped i thought i was done for your the best
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i wanna thank you so much for the information your provided i looked everywhere and lg customer service was no help this was the only thing that helped i thought i was done for your the best
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No problem! Glad it helped someone....I was pretty upset when I thought my watch was bricked....don't ask me how I figured it out...but I did
i dont ever use a wired charger, i use wireless chargers since its built into a stand on my desk, when i put it on i have to power off my phone evry night since it keeps the lock screen on, resulting in major burn in.. ive gone through 3 note 8s under my warranty due to major burn in, the first one never had this issue, the seccond and 3rd (i actualy just got yesterday) did and does,. i thought it was a glitch with phone number 2 but i just got a 3rd and it has the same issue, its happenign with android 7 and 8 so its not android, how do i fix it? id like to prevent burn in of a large clock on my new phone since i probably cant get it replaced free again
ive heard about it happening at 100% but this is at any %, i turn off lock screen to AOD, put it on the charger,and a minute later it gets stuck on a lock screen!
LamoidZombieDog said:
i dont ever use a wired charger, i use wireless chargers since its built into a stand on my desk, when i put it on i have to power off my phone evry night since it keeps the lock screen on, resulting in major burn in.. ive gone through 3 note 8s under my warranty due to major burn in, the first one never had this issue, the seccond and 3rd (i actualy just got yesterday) did and does,. i thought it was a glitch with phone number 2 but i just got a 3rd and it has the same issue, its happenign with android 7 and 8 so its not android, how do i fix it? id like to prevent burn in of a large clock on my new phone since i probably cant get it replaced free again
ive heard about it happening at 100% but this is at any %, i turn off lock screen to AOD, put it on the charger,and a minute later it gets stuck on a lock screen!
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UPDATE:
i just charged the phone from 20% to 100% and the screen stayed only on AOD not on lock screen the entire time, until it got to 100%
its just a problem when wireless charging
LamoidZombieDog said:
UPDATE:
i just charged the phone from 20% to 100% and the screen stayed only on AOD not on lock screen the entire time, until it got to 100%
its just a problem when wireless charging
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I wireless charge my phone overnight. I have AOD switched off, and don't have any problems with the screen staying off during charge, and when fully charged. Have you got any 3rd party apps that might be waking the phone?
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I wireless charge my phone overnight. I have AOD switched off, and don't have any problems with the screen staying off during charge, and when fully charged. Have you got any 3rd party apps that might be waking the phone?
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no, i know for fact its nto a third party app since i tested it with a new phone with basicly no apps installed, and it still did it
so i dont know why it does it
but it does it
and its annoying af
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no, i know for fact its nto a third party app since i tested it with a new phone with basicly no apps installed, and it still did it
so i dont know why it does it
but it does it
and its annoying af
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Have you tried a different wireless charger?
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Have you tried a different wireless charger?
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no
i just tried one of my other wireless chargers (i have 2 others)
i put it on the charger, about a minute later it went to lock screen and turjned on, then it went dim like it was goign to turn off but stayed on dim
which the other charger doesnt do
Keep in mind the phone is at 100% (when charging non wirelessly, the screen doesnt get stuck on, but it does get stuck at 100% only which apparently is common)
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no
i just tried one of my other wireless chargers (i have 2 others)
i put it on the charger, about a minute later it went to lock screen and turjned on, then it went dim like it was goign to turn off but stayed on dim
which the other charger doesnt do
Keep in mind the phone is at 100% (when charging non wirelessly, the screen doesnt get stuck on, but it does get stuck at 100% only which apparently is common)
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Weird. Just checked mine - if the screen is off, then when put on the wireless charger it comes on with the lock screen for less than five seconds before switching off again. If the phone is on, then it stays on for my 1 minute screen timeout, and then goes off (it dims about 10 seconds before going off completely).
Not sure if it's relevant, but my screen brightness slider is set to about 20% (I'm really not keen on the prospect of burn-in).
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Weird. Just checked mine - if the screen is off, then when put on the wireless charger it comes on with the lock screen for less than five seconds before switching off again. If the phone is on, then it stays on for my 1 minute screen timeout, and then goes off (it dims about 10 seconds before going off completely).
Not sure if it's relevant, but my screen brightness slider is set to about 20% (I'm really not keen on the prospect of burn-in).
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yeah ive gotten my phone replaced twice because of major burn in (under warranty) i just got my 3rd note 8 2 days ago..
i keep it at 100% because i should be able to use my phone how i like
anyone who says it blinds them to keep their phone at 100% is just an idiot it doesnt BLIND you its not the sun
it pissed me off so much when they came out with the dont put ur brightness at 100% it will strain ur eyes warning
i almost wanna root by phone just to get rid of it
but yeah it just gets stuck on and its gonna burn a clock in again if i leave it
so i have to let it always play a yotuueb video
LamoidZombieDog said:
yeah ive gotten my phone replaced twice because of major burn in (under warranty) i just got my 3rd note 8 2 days ago..
i keep it at 100% because i should be able to use my phone how i like
anyone who says it blinds them to keep their phone at 100% is just an idiot it doesnt BLIND you its not the sun
it pissed me off so much when they came out with the dont put ur brightness at 100% it will strain ur eyes warning
i almost wanna root by phone just to get rid of it
but yeah it just gets stuck on and its gonna burn a clock in again if i leave it
so i have to let it always play a yotuueb video
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3rd phone, dam I'd be pissed as hell. I'd try talking to manager and ask for a brand new phone and not a refurb. I also hate that brightness warning and sound one as well. The super bright screen definitely helps in sunlight. Still on my 1st note and no screen burn ins.
Don't have that issue with wireless charger either.
Nick216ohio said:
3rd phone, dam I'd be pissed as hell. I'd try talking to manager and ask for a brand new phone and not a refurb. I also hate that brightness warning and sound one as well. The super bright screen definitely helps in sunlight. Still on my 1st note and no screen burn ins.
Don't have that issue with wireless charger either.
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yeah.. i have a verizon buisness account with 7 phone numbers linked so if i need it replaced, they overnight one through fedex and i get it the next day no matter what
only time i had to fight with them about getting a replacement was this note 8 they wanted me to go to samsung for some reason instead
i got a little burn in on my first phone i preordered, then on my seccond phone it has insane burn in and the whole screen is yellow, the whole screen has yellow burn in from just being on all the time
if my 3rd phone gets burn in.. im gonna be even more pissed then i am now
my first phone was flawless, so was my seccond one, this 3rd one they sent me was dirty on the back i had to clean it, and it has scratches on the bottom back of the glass (minor microscratches but they are visible) and lots of scratches on the aluminum ring arround the camera
so im pissed at that :I
Nick216ohio said:
3rd phone, dam I'd be pissed as hell. I'd try talking to manager and ask for a brand new phone and not a refurb. I also hate that brightness warning and sound one as well. The super bright screen definitely helps in sunlight. Still on my 1st note and no screen burn ins.
Don't have that issue with wireless charger either.
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ive already replaced it twice.. idk if they would be happy ot send me another one
plus when i get one, it takes hours and hours of transferign everything over because i have to get everything perfect
so its not just an easy quick swap and done
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