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Let's make a list of which apk's we can remove without the phone giving forcing close issues....
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AnalogueAlarmWidget.apk
AnalogueClockWidget.apk
AppAdvisor_v1.5.78_production_signed_aligned.apk
CarHome.apk
com_lge_christmassnowcity.apk
com_lge_lgfirework2.apk
cyon.apk
DigitalAlarmWidget.apk
DigitalClockWidget.apk
EmailWidget.apk
F-Secure_Mobile_Security_Android22.apk
LGEmail.apk
LGLauncher.apk
MessageWidget.apk
PreloadedApp.apk
SNS.apk
Stk.apk
WorldClockWidget.apk
"App Advisor" and "Preloaded Apps 1.0" are fine to freez on uninstall from Titanium. no problems.
gensplejs said:
"App Advisor" and "Preloaded Apps 1.0" are fine to freez on uninstall from Titanium. no problems.
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Added to the list. More welcome.
What is cyon.apk?
And why is it "safe" to fremover the og launcher? At least you should put your launcher of choice in system/app first....
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What if you just remove the above apps without backup of them.
Do you brick the phone if hard reset is done ?
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dk_iceman said:
What if you just remove the above apps without backup of them.
Do you brick the phone if hard reset is done ?
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I believe if your HR it the apps will be back.
Cause there located in the ROM.
xmoo said:
I believe if your HR it the apps will be back.
Cause there located in the ROM.
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Okay so when we remove the apk program files we don°t actually remove the programs from the Rom ??
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dk_iceman said:
What if you just remove the above apps without backup of them.
Do you brick the phone if hard reset is done ?
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Nothing will happen, you just will miss apps.
When you hard reset your phone it wiil just delete user data and cache partition.
Any changes to system folder means you make changes to rom and cannot be undone without reflashing or restore backup.
Be careful with deleting of apps! If something goes wrong and the phone is not booting we don't have any global rom and flashing tool for now.
dk_iceman said:
What if you just remove the above apps without backup of them.
Do you brick the phone if hard reset is done ?
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Just freez them with Titanium backup if you want the free mem.... space wise deleting them is not really nessecary.... or pull them out with adb first.
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Let's work top down guys, no panic, no alarm.
There are "system apps" and there are "system apps"
Most people refer to any app that's installed on the system partition as a "system app" but the real definition of a "system app" is one that is signed with a root or platform key. This key allows the app to interact with the OS at the lowest level, manipulating resources and other apps.
It's safe to remove either
You can remove either types of these apps but some may be dependencies for other apps and removing these can cause Force Closes.
A Factory Reset does not touch the system partition
As stated above, any modifications you make to the system partition (/system/*) will withstand a Factory Reset. This is why root still works after a Factory Reset.
Safe-to-remove apps
I personally provided the list above and can confirm that these apps are safe to remove but you need to be aware:
Some apps are required (like a Launcher), if you remove it, make sure you have an alternative installed.
Some apps are not available on the Market, you may not be able to substitute them.
Make a backup before you delete any apps!
Note: For critical apps, like a Launcher you *must* have one on your system partition! Do *not* remove your only Launcher from the system partition!
Additional Apps
A lot more can be safely removed from the system partition but they do not consume real-time resources and therefore there is no substantial benefit in removing them. I will post a full schedule of these apps later if somebody doesn't beat me to it.
Enjoy.
More safe to remove: All widgets (loads of them), livewallpaper, protips, maps, lg memo
instead of making backup of the APK files with ADB... can't i just use root explorer to copy the APK files to a folder on my internal sd or computer ??
dk_iceman said:
instead of making backup of the APK files with ADB... can't i just use root explorer to copy the APK files to a folder on my internal sd or computer ??
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Yes, you can. But I would recommend backing up to pc for redundancy.
djmcnz said:
Let's work top down guys, no panic, no alarm.
Enjoy.
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Errug bedankt ! Nice overview.
Since space isn't an issue just freezing them with Titanium Backup should free up the memory as well right?
I'll be waiting for a conclusive list of "freezable" apps. ( And patiently await a custom booloader so we can get some really good custom roms.)
@Xmoo
Haven't see inside the ROM but I assume googlefeedback.apk is in there.
Wouldn't hurt killing that to.
I wish I've red this thread before tinkering around witgh my phone. Seem to have kinda bricked it after owning it for 3 days.
I was playing around with it trying to get rid of the facebook, twitter & myspace for LG apps but I couldn't figure out what they were called in the Titanium Backup Pro list så i backed up LG Home (or was it just called LG) and naively thought the worst thing that could happen was that I would have to do a hard factory reset if anyting went wrong.
But as the android n00b that I am (first android phone) I should have known that LG Home is the launcher! So know I have a phone I can check emails on but if I go past the startup guide it crasches and im stuck at the startup LG logo until I do another hard factoryreset.
Anyone know if the default image/ROM is soon to be released or should I take a shot and send my phone in for repair hoping that they never pick up on what I did?
Sorry of this is offtopic.
There are a couple of threads with similar problems, so search a bit and you should find a way to fix it
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Have someone send you the lg home apk via email and install, or perhaps another launcher if you want. You'll get the "Install ?" question when you open the mail.. do so and you have a launcher again.
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I wish I've red this thread before tinkering around witgh my phone. Seem to have kinda bricked it after owning it for 3 days.
I was playing around with it trying to get rid of the facebook, twitter & myspace for LG apps but I couldn't figure out what they were called in the Titanium Backup Pro list så i backed up LG Home (or was it just called LG) and naively thought the worst thing that could happen was that I would have to do a hard factory reset if anyting went wrong.
But as the android n00b that I am (first android phone) I should have known that LG Home is the launcher! So know I have a phone I can check emails on but if I go past the startup guide it crasches and im stuck at the startup LG logo until I do another hard factoryreset.
Anyone know if the default image/ROM is soon to be released or should I take a shot and send my phone in for repair hoping that they never pick up on what I did?
Sorry of this is offtopic.
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Check this thread out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=992945
When I check out my Active Services I can see the following programs: Whatsapp services (2), Twitter (1), Sim-toolkit (1), Google Services Framework (2), Media (without anything beneath it), Music (2), com.lge.omadmclient (1), Bluetooth Share (2) weird cause bluetooth is OFF! , Wheather & clock update (1), On-Screen phone (1), DRM Service (1), Maps (1), LG PC Suite ObexManager (1), and the Gingerbread Keyboard (1).
Big list in comparison to my G1 and I guess there can be SOME things deleted. Altough I don't know which ones. A guess:
1. Media (what does this do?)
2. Music (I disabled the music bar, and don't want that service running all the time!)
3. com.lge.omadmclient (what's this?)
4. Bluetooth Share... weird thing because I have my bluetooth OFF all the time... how to get rid of these?
5. Wheather & clock updater. I don't use that widget so...?
6. On-Screen phone, what does it do?
7. DRM Service
8. LG PC Suite ObexManager?
Can somebody please tell me if I can get rid of (some) of these services, and if so, which programs to freeze Thanks!
hi to all
i flashed a Verizon firmware on my moto x but i see that are containing the Logo from Verizon and some preinstalled app
there is any way to remove that apps and to remove the Verizon logo?
thank u
Root your device and after that install "root browser" - dele all vzw (verizon wireless) apps in folder system/apps & system/priv-apps
q173242 said:
Root your device and after that install "root browser" - dele all vzw (verizon wireless) apps in folder system/apps & system/priv-apps
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That's a good way to break things and cripple your phone.
What "things"? Using my two moto x's for two months now with these "settings".
curious. I have some apk's with the Vzw prefix. Are these verizon? and if so why are they on my phone if I'm not a verizon customer?
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curious. I have some apk's with the Vzw prefix. Are these verizon? and if so why are they on my phone if I'm not a verizon customer?
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what firmware u have??
look at info if u have verizon firmware
danger2u said:
what firmware u have??
look at info if u have verizon firmware
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it's a uscellular firmware but I have 2 apps listed with Vzw
VzwController and VzwPhoneService
ForSquirel said:
it's a uscellular firmware but I have 2 apps listed with Vzw
VzwController and VzwPhoneService
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it s unlocked?
maybe u put in some Verizon sim and it instaled this apps
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That's a good way to break things and cripple your phone.
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I have read conflicting information on this topic. Is it okay to delete the apk from the system app folder for VZ Navigator and NFL Mobile and the Caller ID apk from the system priv-app folder? I am not sure if this will be a problem later. I have heard other people claim you should never delete any bloatware apks but instead freeze them using Titanium Backup.
Not sure if there is a definitive answer or what the downside would be to deleting those 3 apps.
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it s unlocked?
maybe u put in some Verizon sim and it instaled this apps
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nope. it's been the exact same since I brought it home from the store. That's why it confused me to see the VZW apps on a USCellular phone
i would not delete them for FC issues i would just install Titanium Back up and Freeze the apps you dont want.
by doing this you should never have any FC issues and if you do you can unfreeze them.
that would be the safest route to remove them
dray_jr said:
i would not delete them for FC issues i would just install Titanium Back up and Freeze the apps you dont want.
by doing this you should never have any FC issues and if you do you can unfreeze them.
that would be the safest route to remove them
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i ll let in with this apps untill Motorola release a european retail firmware
on 14 january seems that they have a presentation of Moto x in UK
i know that removing system apps can harm the phone
KLRTN said:
I have read conflicting information on this topic. Is it okay to delete the apk from the system app folder for VZ Navigator and NFL Mobile and the Caller ID apk from the system priv-app folder? I am not sure if this will be a problem later. I have heard other people claim you should never delete any bloatware apks but instead freeze them using Titanium Backup.
Not sure if there is a definitive answer or what the downside would be to deleting those 3 apps.
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Usually OTA updates will look for certain files to be present on your phone and verify their size and check sums (MD5 or the like) before the OTA update will install. If files are missing or changed, the ota update will fail.
By deleting apk's of pre-installed apps from your phone, you risk needed files not being present which could prevent OTA Updates from installing. You could manually rename each APK now (VZNAV.APK to VZNAV.APK.BAK) and rename it back prior to taking OTA. This way you don't have to hut for them, but with the possibility of so many VZW APK's to rename, you could have a hard time remembering all of them to rename for the next OTA.
So,the easiest two suggested alternatives has been to use the Phone's App Manager to disable apps (they can stay disabled, even during an OTA update), or Titanium Backup to Freeze apps (you must unfreeze before taking OTA).
KidJoe said:
Usually OTA updates will look for certain files to be present on your phone and verify their size and check sums (MD5 or the like) before the OTA update will install. If files are missing or changed, the ota update will fail.
By deleting apk's of pre-installed apps from your phone, you risk needed files not being present which could prevent OTA Updates from installing. You could manually rename each APK now (VZNAV.APK to VZNAV.APK.BAK) and rename it back prior to taking OTA. This way you don't have to hut for them, but with the possibility of so many VZW APK's to rename, you could have a hard time remembering all of them to rename for the next OTA.
So,the easiest two suggested alternatives has been to use the Phone's App Manager to disable apps (they can stay disabled, even during an OTA update), or Titanium Backup to Freeze apps (you must unfreeze before taking OTA).
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Thanks! That has been the clearest explanation I have seen on this topic.
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I rooted my phone and deleted 3 verizon apps (without backing them up) prior to learning what the consequences would be in deleting. Rookie mistake on my part but I was coming from a Nexus and was never concerned with OTA updates or bloatware.
Now I am trying to figure out if I can download the apks for the deleted files and push them back to the system folder on the phone. I have done a bit of searching and have not found anything or anywhere to download the correct files.
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I rooted my phone and deleted 3 verizon apps (without backing them up) prior to learning what the consequences would be in deleting. Rookie mistake on my part but I was coming from a Nexus and was never concerned with OTA updates or bloatware.
Now I am trying to figure out if I can download the apks for the deleted files and push them back to the system folder on the phone. I have done a bit of searching and have not found anything or anywhere to download the correct files.
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HERE u have the vzw files and apks
i extracted from my moto x
hope helps u
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwTULBGmnkwqR0ZoQUxpSDd0aGs/edit?usp=sharing
danger2u said:
HERE u have the vzw files and apks
i extracted from my moto x
hope helps u
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwTULBGmnkwqR0ZoQUxpSDd0aGs/edit?usp=sharing
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Thank you very much. That was exactly what I needed.
Okay so before I get told to look at other threads I have, Multiple times and I have tried using the Lucky Patcher but I can't find the 'remove fixes and backups.' option anywhere.
Since I first downloaded it and rooted my phone I have not been able to update Snapchat or even install the Holo Version
This is also happening with other apps such as Facebook but not all.
It downloads fine, I probably have downloaded it 10 times now but it is the Installation where I get the error.
I was fine with this because I didn't care for updates but somehow randomly disappeared.
I didn't have enough room for a backup and I don't know how to install my Nandroid Backup or even where it is in general.
Has anyone got a fix, when I tried lucky patcher I couldn't find the 'remove fixes and backups' under troubleshooting.
There is a possible fix. Use a root file explorer to navigate to /data/app-lib. Find the specific folders for the apps which can be installed and remove those folders. That normally should fix it.
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GXGOW said:
There is a possible fix. Use a root file explorer to navigate to /data/app-lib. Find the specific folders for the apps which can be installed and remove those folders. That normally should fix it.
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I actually like, legitimately love you right now, I have had this problem for too long and now it's gone
Thank you!
GXGOW said:
There is a possible fix. Use a root file explorer to navigate to /data/app-lib. Find the specific folders for the apps which can be installed and remove those folders. That normally should fix it.
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Hello, I know this is an old thread now.
However, I've been having an insufficient storage issue on my Galaxy S3 GTI9300.
It was happening with both Snapchat & Facebook. I tried every suggestion I could find on the web, deleting cache, dalvik, moving apps to external SD card, lucky patcher (no remove fixes and backups option anyway) and blah blah blah, I've deleted everything I dare to from the internal storage, it's now showing 4.65GB available. The only suggestion that half-worked was browsing to my /data/app-lib folder using a file manager and enabling root explorer. I deleted everything I could find for Snapchat and Facebook and for Snapchat, it has worked, I can now install updates from the play store. But for Facebook, the issue persists!
I'm on a custom ROM by the way, called Sentinel ROM V 6.0 (Android 4.4.2).
I'm on the verge of doing a factory reset and installing either this ROM or another custom one from fresh. Is there anything else I can try before doing this?
Dear all
Needs help.. Strange behavior of stable apps like
SwipePad on MI3: the Hotspots don't appear.
Adfree App: Not able to locate and update the Host file
Titamium: Backup completed only 98%
Fuel Log Not compatible with the ROM..
Sygic crashes upon launch
did you root it?
hosts file cant be updated without rooting AFAIK
ajay7jain said:
Dear all
Needs help.. Strange behavior of stable apps like
SwipePad on MI3: the Hotspots don't appear.
Adfree App: Not able to locate and update the Host file
Titamium: Backup completed only 98%
Fuel Log Not compatible with the ROM..
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Under security enable Pop-Ups and auto-start for Swipepad. Reboot, it should work, I got mine to work this way.
You need to be rooted for Ad-free and titanium backup to work. Titanium Backup was not able to restore ad-free/ad-away so I just re-installed it.
If you are using Sygic MapMyIndia, it will probably not work because MapMyIndia and Sygic got a divorce.
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Under security enable Pop-Ups and auto-start for Swipepad. Reboot, it should work, I got mine to work this way.
You need to be rooted for Ad-free and titanium backup to work. Titanium Backup was not able to restore ad-free/ad-away so I just re-installed it.
If you are using Sygic MapMyIndia, it will probably not work because MapMyIndia and Sygic got a divorce.
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Can u pl share where the security POp Up setting is.. Unable to find it...
ajay7jain said:
Can u pl share where the security POp Up setting is.. Unable to find it...
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In The App Info page of an app.
dafreaking said:
In The App Info page of an app.
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It worked..
Hey guys,
I finally have time to set up my Pixel 4 XL. I'm coming from a 2 XL (still on Pie) and backed up/restored my apps with Titanium Backup (which I've always done). Of course, both phones have a working root access.
Now I'm facing a huge problem on Android 10 on my 4 XL: no file manager works. They ask for storage permission at the bottom of the screen but it does nothing when I tap it. I checked in the settings and the permission is granted but the app won't scan my internal storage (it says access is denied).
I also have many apps that don't work and are asking to be reinstalled. Is this normal? What's going on here?? I'm already fed up with Android 10 tbh!
If anyone has had the same problems, please chime in!
Thanks.
Ghisy said:
Hey guys,
I finally have time to set up my Pixel 4 XL. I'm coming from a 2 XL (still on Pie) and backed up/restored my apps with Titanium Backup (which I've always done). Of course, both phones have a working root access.
Now I'm facing a huge problem on Android 10 on my 4 XL: no file maneger works. They ask for storage permission at the bottom of the screen but it does nothing when I tap it. I checked in the settings and the permission is granted but the app won't scan my internal storage (it says access is denied).
I also have many apps that don't work and are asking to be reinstalled. Is this normal? What's going on here?? I'm already fed up with Android 10 tbh!
If anyone has had the same problems, please chime in!
Thanks.
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I haven't had this problem and still use TiBu all the time. Normally I use Solid Explorer to create a single zip-file of my entire TiBu folder on the source phone. I use Root Explorer, too.
First of all, Google's backup has come a very long way and (IMO) it should always be allowed to completely finish restoring your phone. You didn't mention whether you used this option when you first fired up the P4XL, as the option only comes around one time. If you chose to setup from scratch (not using a very recent Google backup from your P2XL, opting instead to "shortcut" by using TiBu) this could be the issue. Wipe the phone, allow GB to do it's thing restoring not only your backup but also ALL of your Store apps. Everything. I even reboot and try to squeeze out a couple more updates from the Store. Then I extract my TiBu zip-file, re-creating the same TiBu folder I had on the source phone. Once the app has root and recognizes the backup folder, do a selective install for ONLY MISSING APPS (the first option). This way you don't inadvertently overwrite a system app, system settings or carry over something old from a previous OS version. At this time you may also want to de-select any old apps you haven't used or don't plan to use going forward, before you hit the restore button.
A pro-tip would be to backup your source phone launcher config in the cloud or offline before starting (I use Nova stored on GDrive). After GB and TiBu have restored everything, I use the Nova backup to restore all my shortcuts and widgets. This method is consistent and mostly error-free for me... YMMV. Best of luck and enjoy your new phone! :good:
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Best of luck and enjoy your new phone! :good:
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Yeah, I didn't choose the Google backup when I first turned on the P4XL (I don't have a cloud backup, I turned it off on my 2XL because I don't have much space left on my GDrive). I do back up my Nova home screen on my GDrive though.
I did use the "missing apps" setting in TiBu, as I know restoring system apps between different versions of Android is a big no-no. Several apps would FC after doing that though. I ended up reinstalling these from the Play Store (luckily, they weren't any "critical" apps for me). I exported settings for the ones that had the option from my P2XL and imported these on the P4XL. It was a long process but, in the end, everything seems to work now!
Thanks for your step by step guide, it might come in handy at some point
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