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[Q] Why does android's standby time suck?

I've used around 5 Android phones (starting from 2.1 now up to 4.3) and for some reason, they all have a pathetic standby time. When I say standby, I mean when you press the power button and it turns the screen off and you don't touch it. Why is android the only OS that has this problem? WP, fine. IOS, probably the best one (only good thing about it).
I've tried different kernels, using no apps from the play store at all, turning off Google's location service, using greenify, and a bunch more. My battery still drops to ~70% at 4:00 starting at 100 at 7:00. When I briefly had an iphone and windows phone, I always was amazed at how my battery was around ~90-95% at 4:00. I know most people actually USE their phone during the day, so its probably not as noticeable.
Does anyone know the real reason for this? By real, I mean the deep down reason for this. Is java just a hog?

I think the main reason is the backround apps that are running. I used my old sensation just as a phone and so I deleted all the apps from it (Facebook, Viber etc.) and the phone lasted 5-6 days on standby with a 1 year old batery. Before I removed those apps I couldnt get 2 days on standby. I think backgrounfd apps in Android are allowed more "freedom" so they use up the CPU while on standby. That is my experience and opinion.

celelivada said:
I think the main reason is the backround apps that are running. I used my old sensation just as a phone and so I deleted all the apps from it (Facebook, Viber etc.) and the phone lasted 5-6 days on standby with a 1 year old batery. Before I removed those apps I couldnt get 2 days on standby. I think backgrounfd apps in Android are allowed more "freedom" so they use up the CPU while on standby. That is my experience and opinion.
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Yeah I thought that, but I said I tried it with no apps installed. Same thing.

Weird, I don't experience that kind of massive stand by drain.
If I turn my screen off or let it time out, my phone can sit for a almost a couple of days before it shuts down - sometimes two full days. This was true with my Nexus 4 and Galaxy S3, and now the One.
So I have no clue what you're talking about, generalizing Android like that.

i disagree
My battery drains 1% every six hours
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Weird, I don't experience that kind of massive stand by drain.
If I turn my screen off or let it time out, my phone can sit for a almost a couple of days before it shuts down - sometimes two full days. This was true with my Nexus 4 and Galaxy S3, and now the One.
So I have no clue what you're talking about, generalizing Android like that.
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I'm generalizing Android because I was talking about "Stock" android. Not what we do here. I really have to find a fix for this. I dont know what I'm doing wrong here.

Mine also has great standby time...
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aooga said:
I'm generalizing Android because I was talking about "Stock" android. Not what we do here. I really have to find a fix for this. I dont know what I'm doing wrong here.
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I am talking about stock Android as well. I have had great battery life with my last three phones.

I've had no such problems with "android" in general. Some roms / apps yes. But after fixing those issues it was pretty much what would have been expected / what reviewers/other people get.
I would recommend getting something like gsam battery monitor and let it run at least a day and then post some screenshots. Maybe we can give some concrete advice then.
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Terrible Standby Battery Drain

I was super busy today so I barely looked at my phone so I was expecting my battery life to be in the high 80s but when I looked at it, it was at 31%... with only 28 minutes of screen on time...
By percentage the biggest drainers are Google+ (13%) - which I do not even use... -, Standby (10%) and Screen (6%).
I'm rooted on Pure Shamu with Elemental Kernel (for RGB control, no other mods with the kernel), if that matters. I can't think of anything I've enabled that would kill the battery so hard.

Sounds like a wakelock in either the ROM or kernel to me.

I'm having a similar issue with Lean Kernel.
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EniGmA1987 said:
Sounds like a wakelock in either the ROM or kernel to me.
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Yeah, Google+ had almost 9 hours of wake time and 2 hours of CPU time. I have no idea why, I don't even use Google+ and I have location services and photo backups disabled.
I've completely deleted the Google+ profile though and I've disabled account syncing for everything other than Gmail. I'll see if that makes any change tomorrow.

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Sounds like a wakelock in either the ROM or kernel to me.
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Yup. Wakelock.
Fwiw G+ plays fine on my device and doesn't nuke the battery

jasonleb1 said:
Yeah, Google+ had almost 9 hours of wake time and 2 hours of CPU time. I have no idea why, I don't even use Google+ and I have location services and photo backups disabled.
I've completely deleted the Google+ profile though and I've disabled account syncing for everything other than Gmail. I'll see if that makes any change tomorrow.
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Delete Google+ , I've had the same issue on a note 4 aswell.

if you're not using G+ why not disabled it.

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if you're not using G+ why not disabled it.
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How do you disable it, it is not listed as an app.

Or uninstall the app. No point in having the app installed but disabling it, it'll take more space.
This is why I prefer minimal gapps, Google includes so much bloat ware.
I also recommend using app ops to deny access for keep awake on play services. It'll help with standby battery significantly.
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zephiK said:
Or uninstall the app. No point in having the app installed but disabling it, it'll take more space.
This is why I prefer minimal gapps, Google includes so much bloat ware.
I also recommend using app ops to deny access for keep awake on play services. It'll help with standby battery significantly.
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i found this foe google play services last night, so i disabled iys background data use. i dont remember being allowed to do that for google play services. which i also assume will keep it from waking the device when its sleeping(since data is not allowed).
anyways, to the op, do you have photos uploading to the cloud? if so, disable that service, thats what uses the g+ app when you dont use it.
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No I had photo uploading disabled. But I disabled Google+ all together before I plugged it in for the night and I'm having much better results. I've only had about 9% of battery drain with mostly standby and some light browsing before I got out of bed this morning (I've been stuck at my computer all day so I haven't needed to use my phone much). Much, much better than the 70% drain I got yesterday from the same.
Since uninstalling isn't a default option in app setting for G+ I imagine I'd need to download something with super user access to do so? Any recommendations?

I am getting killed by the Google Play Services. It was fine till yesterday. Suddenly from today it starts drinking battery!

This is a cool phone. Google has released new software (lollipop). But it just really sucks that a phone with such a beautiful ui and really cool features is such a mess. And yes this os is a mess. Most of us are disabling features such as ambient display, google apps, location etc.. just to be able to last anywhere from half a day to a day. Really depends on how much a person has had their screen awake and how much is disabled to attempt to make it through a day. The battery is just not large enough for the 4k display. If everything were operating correctly I would feel like I'd spent my money as well as I ever had on a mobile device. What is the value of having a 2.7ghz processor if we have to under clock it? I'd like to use the speed of the processor but I slow it down also as I am fighting for battery life as much as I can. Today is the first time I've used battery saver and my experience is that it helps tremendously on my phone personally. But it also ruins many of the reasons I bought the phone. I like the animations of lollipop. I've always reduced animations to .5 through developer settings. I hope Google is seriously trying to iron this out. It's a big deal that all of us are fighting for battery life and Google apps gone wild are hurting many of us. As far as I can see my opinion is this os is a great concept but needs much work to be considered anywhere near as efficient as KitKat was. But the real question after all I've said is Have any of us that purchased a nexus phone never had to fight for battery life? We knew what we were getting into when we bought a nexus. Things will get better. I just wonder when and if this screen will ever be controllable with IMO such a small battery for such a large 4k display. Enjoy your nexus'. I am the best I can fighting for battery life.
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Just to be clear, its not a 4k display and I'm averaging 4.5-5 hrs screen on time without disabling anything
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holeindalip said:
Just to be clear, its not a 4k display and I'm averaging 4.5-5 hrs screen on time without disabling anything
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Yeah I screwed that up. 2k if I'm not mistaken.
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[Q] feel like returning after battery life ?

Anyone felt like returning this phones after a week cause of battery life?
Im not cause its not that bad and maybe a custom ROM may be able to work on that just looking for other people's experience and what they think thanks!

It's useable with a few temp.. tweaks .
The bottom line is this all occurs with lollipop in general S5 was great on kitkat ...until 5.0
It's not the phone it's features and O.S
People are disabling Volte and WiFi calling it helps a lot
I wouldn't return it over battery life yet the camera is way to good
Give it time We get roms soon and mods it's I take back everything +I said
Samsung needs to take back every s6 and Rethink there whole O.S
For a 750$ flag ship release its so buggy it's hopeless .
Camera is only worthwhile feature
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Do one factory reset and set up phone again and disable VOLTE FOR NOW under Phone /More .
Cycle the battery meaning charge filly and let it fully drain as far as you can before recharging again .Another words don't fully charge it when it hits 40%
This is true the battery's learn a drain span
I'f you recharge anything above 10% it isn't gonna learn it's max capacity Takes like a week.
The main fix is Volte disable and WiFi calling
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i turned off volte i dont really see the need for it i mean its a phone call why do you need such high speeds lol my phone is at 2 percent waiting for it to die lol thanks

If it wasn't for the rapid quick charge I probably would have
returned it but the fact that I can top off in a half an hour it's really not a problem getting through the day.

I think it has something to do that the phone is not going to deep sleep, i rooted mine and flashed a custom kernel, now it does deep sleep and battery is ok now

While battery life isn't as good as some phones I've used recently I still got 5hrs SOT yesterday. Not bad at all.

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dc82 said:
While battery life isn't as good as some phones I've used recently I still got 5hrs SOT yesterday. Not bad at all.
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That is pretty good for this phone ....
Has anyone tried going into Developer Options }Limit Back
Ground Processes to 4 ?
I wonder if this barely slows the Phone for most things but might give an additional ( wild guess 10% to 25%) Battery Life.
I don't have one but if this works....be easier for me to decide.
I may put this idea in a separate Thread.

robertkoa said:
That is pretty good for this phone ....
Has anyone tried going into Developer Options }Limit Back
Ground Processes to 4 ?
I wonder if this barely slows the Phone for most things but might give an additional ( wild guess 10% to 25%) Battery Life.
I don't have one but if this works....be easier for me to decide.
I may put this idea in a separate Thread.
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Yea I can't complain about battery life. The screen is so ridiculous I end up using the phone for no reason, so my usage at least for now since it's new, isn't my normal usage.
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Should I get one?

Hello dear XDA friends, Although I don't post a lot I still love you all .
Anyway, I am really tempted to get a Mate S ($/€319) after my LG G3's screen basically broke in half, the battery exploded and the touchscreen only working 10%, it's basically useless right now and I need a phone to replace it for a while until I decide what's going to be my ''real'' phone (I hate Apple but the 7+ Camera is amazing but then again maybe note 7 refurbs will be cheap.) So yeah I need to bridge the gap and I want to gift it to a relative when I'm done with it.
So is it worth it for 300 bucks?

Hi,
I have the phone since 3 months now (rooted and latest rom version) and it is in overall very good but the battery. Screen is very great but although there are a good device manager, it doesn't stand a full day without reloading.
Also you can see from the different posts that this phone is not very popular among Android's cooks. So not a lot of answers and not a lot of tricks and tweaks. I regret the time I had a Nexus 4 where community was very active. Anyway, as I am really focused on battery life, this is the real flaw of this phone for me. But I guess there are not many phones that could do better.

dai75 said:
Hi,
I have the phone since 3 months now (rooted and latest rom version) and it is in overall very good but the battery. Screen is very great but although there are a good device manager, it doesn't stand a full day without reloading.
Also you can see from the different posts that this phone is not very popular among Android's cooks. So not a lot of answers and not a lot of tricks and tweaks. I regret the time I had a Nexus 4 where community was very active. Anyway, as I am really focused on battery life, this is the real flaw of this phone for me. But I guess there are not many phones that could do better.
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What's the longest screen on time you got?

It actually depends what you gonna do with this phone.
I own it for last 8 months never really felt need for better battery during normal usage.
My typical usage with all the time brightness at auto and slider at max ( which on huawei even when inside usually means 80-90% brightness ) and outside always even when is dim day is 100% or boosted screen mode ends up with average 4:30-5h SOT with around 18-20hrs on battery. This is with about 60% wifi 40% 3g.
This includes bunch of social apps, youtube , music, calls, sms, light gaming of around 1hr per day.
The great thing about this phone is its soc and screen, the to S-amoled it never gets hot thus for it doesn't drain battery life fast like snapdragon devices.
Biggest fall of this soc is its GPU it isn't as good for heavy games like s810 devices for example.
If you're not a gamer I highly suggest this phone. If you have more money I suggest p9+, its a beast in all regards.
Here my current battery life stats
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Xdekker said:
What's the longest screen on time you got?
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As you can see, I charged my phone and unplugged at 00.14. Wi-Fi off and no mobile data, no screen on. No apps running apart from home launcher and myProfile. All others are greenified. So in around 8h sleep it decreased by 20%.
I tried many tricks and I consider myself skilful for this (my LG G2 could last 3 days) but cannot do better with this one. The ROM is not good enough yet and update frequency is not good.

Got the LG G4 so this one can be closed

Battery life my note 8..

My battery life on screen time alway 3-4hrs only as following .. it is normal ?? Cos i notice many people will get 5 to 7hrs screen on time.. pls advice
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My battery life on screen time alway 3-4hrs only as following .. it is normal ?? Cos i notice many people will get 5 to 7hrs screen on time.. pls adviceView attachment 4310563View attachment 4310564
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Normal is relative. Is it a bit on the low side? Most definitely. Normal? Maybe. It really comes down to the apps you have and how you use your phone. I personally get about 5hrs SOT and I'm fine with that. Standby drain is more important to me than SOT. There are battery saving tips and trick you can try to google or youtube.

mrnovanova said:
Normal is relative. Is it a bit on the low side? Most definitely. Normal? Maybe. It really comes down to the apps you have and how you use your phone. I personally get about 5hrs SOT and I'm fine with that. Standby drain is more important to me than SOT. There are battery saving tips and trick you can try to google or youtube.
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My phone drains like 3% per hour on IDLE. I don't have AoD nor anything in particular that should be causing this drain. I have no idea why. The battery life seems to be fine for actual usage, but teeeerrible for AOD.

CalvinL said:
My phone drains like 3% per hour on IDLE. I don't have AoD nor anything in particular that should be causing this drain. I have no idea why. The battery life seems to be fine for actual usage, but teeeerrible for AOD.
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3% per hour no AOD is bad. You have an app causing major drain for sure. You might have to deep dive in your battery stats to find the culprit. Last resort would be safe mode to see if your able to reproduce the issue. You should go to the battery life thread and ask around.

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3% per hour no AOD is bad. You have an app causing major drain for sure. You might have to deep dive in your battery stats to find the culprit. Last resort would be safe mode to see if your able to reproduce the issue. You should go to the battery life thread and ask around.
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I'm not sure what it could possibly be since my old Note 8 did this too, but it alternated every other cycle or so where it would drain less than 1% or 3%+. I exchanged it for a new one and this issue is happening again except it was completely fine for the first week or two. There was no app that I downloaded between the time that it was fine and not fine.
I guess I'll repost this in the battery thread.

i am not losing battery overnight as much as you guys, my problem now is i can't get 6-7hrs of sot anymore, 4-5 is as much as i get, and it's only 1 month old.

There was a thread about Android OS drain.
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I miss my note 4. I use to get around 5-8 sot. With this phone only 3 and half hours. That's with everything turned off too. On my note 4 I had just about everything turned on. Will be waiting for the note 10 to release then I will buy the note 9