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So...I bought my HTC One in July of 2013 for retail price due to not having an upgrade and at the time being financially capable. I unlocked the bootloader, rooted it and used custom ROM's until a week ago when I got the unresolvable issue it not being able to charge anymore unless it was turned off. Now, today, it no longer charges when it's turned off and if I'm extremely lucky it's able to charge while being off for about 20 minutes before it stops.
My HTC One is absolutely useless now. I've called HTC and they told me that I still have 20 days of manufacturer warranty and that I could send in my phone if I paid shipping and they'd repair it for me, however I know they'll find out that I rooted (even though I'm back to 100% stock now) based off of the reports I've read about others. They end up making you pay for a motherboard which costs $200+ in repairs. Not only that, but I simply can't go 7-10 business days without my phone at work.
I called AT&T and the warranty there is gone now, so they refuse to help me in anyway as well. I can't sell the phone on Craigslist because it's broken and I can't even get a good deal at Best Buy I imagine for even $100 because of it being broken. I imagine they'll offer me like $40 for it.
$600 down the drain and 1 year later and I have a piece of junk in my pocket right now. I'm without a phone and do not have an upgrade to do anything about it unless I want to pay retail price for a new phone. My only option now I guess is to look into a cheaper Nexus 5 but even that is just not affordable for me.
Has anyone been in this situation? What the hell can I do?
Leather Sock said:
So...I bought my HTC One in July of 2013 for retail price due to not having an upgrade and at the time being financially capable. I unlocked the bootloader, rooted it and used custom ROM's until a week ago when I got the unresolvable issue it not being able to charge anymore unless it was turned off. Now, today, it no longer charges when it's turned off and if I'm extremely lucky it's able to charge while being off for about 20 minutes before it stops.
My HTC One is absolutely useless now. I've called HTC and they told me that I still have 20 days of manufacturer warranty and that I could send in my phone if I paid shipping and they'd repair it for me, however I know they'll find out that I rooted (even though I'm back to 100% stock now) based off of the reports I've read about others. They end up making you pay for a motherboard which costs $200+ in repairs. Not only that, but I simply can't go 7-10 business days without my phone at work.
I called AT&T and the warranty there is gone now, so they refuse to help me in anyway as well. I can't sell the phone on Craigslist because it's broken and I can't even get a good deal at Best Buy I imagine for even $100 because of it being broken. I imagine they'll offer me like $40 for it.
$600 down the drain and 1 year later and I have a piece of junk in my pocket right now. I'm without a phone and do not have an upgrade to do anything about it unless I want to pay retail price for a new phone. My only option now I guess is to look into a cheaper Nexus 5 but even that is just not affordable for me.
Has anyone been in this situation? What the hell can I do?
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if your 100% stock, and locked in the bootloader, not relocked or unlocked, and the tampered flag has gone, then just un-root it and send it to HTC, they will never know.
Seanie280672 said:
if your 100% stock, and locked in the bootloader, not relocked or unlocked, and the tampered flag has gone, then just un-root it and send it to HTC, they will never know.
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I'm "LOCKED" in the bootloader, S-On, not rooted and I'm using the stock RUU thing. I'm completely stock. However, I read that HTC has some sort of program or something that can see how many times your phone has been unlocked/locked or something and they end up wanting you to pay for that motherboard repair.
I mean, I guess I could try, I just hope they don't pull some sort of "Pay or we won't give your phone back" sort of deal.
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I'm "LOCKED" in the bootloader, S-On, not rooted and I'm using the stock RUU thing. I'm completely stock. However, I read that HTC has some sort of program or something that can see how many times your phone has been unlocked/locked or something and they end up wanting you to pay for that motherboard repair.
I mean, I guess I could try, I just hope they don't pull some sort of "Pay or we won't give your phone back" sort of deal.
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I know that Samsung have some sort of counter hidden inside them which can be read quite easily and shows how many times its been flashed and rooted etc,, but im not aware of HTC having it, personally, in its current status, I would send it, if they question it, tell them your brought it off a friend and don't know what he did with it before you got it, also if they do pick up on it, then just request they send it back rather than repair it.
Seanie280672 said:
I know that Samsung have some sort of counter hidden inside them which can be read quite easily and shows how many times its been flashed and rooted etc,, but im not aware of HTC having it, personally, in its current status, I would send it, if they question it, tell them your brought it off a friend and don't know what he did with it before you got it, also if they do pick up on it, then just request they send it back rather than repair it.
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Yeah, I'm doing that now. I guess I'll find out if I have the luxory of a replacement that will last me one last year, or if I'm out of a $500 phone. If I get the replacement, I can at least sell that thing on Craigslist when I get a new phone or trade it in towards my new one. This current one is just a piece of metal in my pocket.
Seanie280672 said:
I know that Samsung have some sort of counter hidden inside them which can be read quite easily and shows how many times its been flashed and rooted etc,, but im not aware of HTC having it, personally, in its current status, I would send it, if they question it, tell them your brought it off a friend and don't know what he did with it before you got it, also if they do pick up on it, then just request they send it back rather than repair it.
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I forgot about the HTCDev Unlock Token thing I just read in another thread. I used that when I unlocked my bootloader. Isn't that owned by HTC and they can see that I requested to unlock my HTC One? God damn it. This has me down as hell.
Leather Sock said:
I forgot about the HTCDev Unlock Token thing I just read in another thread. I used that when I unlocked my bootloader. Isn't that owned by HTC and they can see that I requested to unlock my HTC One? God damn it. This has me down as hell.
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In theory yes, but I nerver heard htc refusing to honor the warranty of a M7 if the phone returned with a stock rom, locked and s-on. Send the phone, i'm 99% sure they will repair it at no cost.
alray said:
In theory yes, but I nerver heard htc refusing to honor the warranty of a M7 if the phone returned with a stock rom, locked and s-on. Send the phone, i'm 99% sure they will repair it at no cost.
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I'm really, really hoping so. I even paid the $19.00 to get my phone back 3-5 days faster because I NEED it for work.
Leather Sock said:
I'm really, really hoping so. I even paid the $19.00 to get my phone back 3-5 days faster because I NEED it for work.
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You should be alright, should they question you, which I severely doubt, just act like you don't know ****. But definitely let us know how it goes.
Ajxx16 said:
You should be alright, should they question you, which I severely doubt, just act like you don't know ****. But definitely let us know how it goes.
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If I get a replacement I'll probably kiss the guy who posted the return to stock guide. He'll save me $350 for a Nexus 5 that will become obsolete in October and drop $150 and make me feel even worse while the Nexus 6 rubs it's nose in my face.
Just brought my phone to UPS to be sent back to HTC. I guess we'll find out in 2-3 days whether or not they're going to quote me for stupid repairs, or if I'll get a refurb phone for replacement with no charge. If I have to pay for repairs, I won't and I'll just get the phone back, sell it to Best Buy and buy a Nexus 5 I guess.
Crossing my fingers :/
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You should be alright, should they question you, which I severely doubt, just act like you don't know ****. But definitely let us know how it goes.
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alray said:
In theory yes, but I nerver heard htc refusing to honor the warranty of a M7 if the phone returned with a stock rom, locked and s-on. Send the phone, i'm 99% sure they will repair it at no cost.
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Ah...and the stress is relieved. I just received a shipping notice via email saying I'll have my HTC One on Monday. Gosh that was painful.
I had this exact problem (would only charge when powered off) about a year ago. I returned everything to stock, sent my phone to HTC and they fixed it, no questions asked. Maybe others have had difficulty, but it all was fine for me.
Hi everyone, I'm planning on buying a bricked moto x because it's cheap and it's new. In the past I already bought a bricked phone and made it work, however I'm not sure I will be able to this time so I wanted to know if you guys can help me understand:
-IF it can be unbricked/fixed, I don't care if it's difficult but I need to know if it's possible first.
-if the above is possible then what procedures should I follow
I'm probably asking for too much, sorry, but from what I tried to investigate it looks like it has more than one single problem so im not sure if all of them have a solution.
What the seller said:
The old owner sold it with the bootloader unlocked, I didn't knew that, so I updated via OTA (in the phone) and ended like that.
Looks like it can't have an unlocked bootloader if OTA updating, I don't even know please help me.
*since I still don't own the phone I can't test anything, I just need to know if those errors shown above have a solution, or at least are not a death declaration so I can still try something if I buy it.
Sorry for the bad quality of the images but that's what the guy selling it uploaded.
brurhh said:
Hi everyone, I'm planning on buying a bricked moto x because it's cheap and it's new. In the past I already bought a bricked phone and made it work, however I'm not sure I will be able to this time so I wanted to know if you guys can help me understand:
-IF it can be unbricked/fixed, I don't care if it's difficult but I need to know if it's possible first.
-if the above is possible then what procedures should I follow
I'm probably asking for too much, sorry, but from what I tried to investigate it looks like it has more than one single problem so im not sure if all of them have a solution.
What the seller said:
The old owner sold it with the bootloader unlocked, I didn't knew that, so I updated via OTA (in the phone) and ended like that.
Looks like it can't have an unlocked bootloader if OTA updating, I don't even know please help me.
*since I still don't own the phone I can't test anything, I just need to know if those errors shown above have a solution, or at least are not a death declaration so I can still try something if I buy it.
Sorry for the bad quality of the images but that's what the guy selling it uploaded.
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You'll be rolling the dice on that one. MAYBE it can be fixed using the de-bricking procedures, but if anyone tells you that it can FOR SURE be fixed...well...I'd question their source.
If its cheap enough that you don't mind throwing that amount of money down the drain....give it a shot. Your call.
brurhh said:
What the seller said:
The old owner sold it with the bootloader unlocked, I didn't knew that, so I updated via OTA (in the phone) and ended like that.
Looks like it can't have an unlocked bootloader if OTA updating, I don't even know please help me.
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I call BS on that account of what happened... The bootloader is LOCKED STATUS 0. That device was never bootloader unlocked. (and having an unlocked bootloader doesn't interfere with taking an OTA)
It could be that someone used one of the older procedures to root and disable write protection, took and OTA (losing root/write protection) and later tried to downgrade to root & disable write protection again, thus causing the brick.
It could be as simple as flashing the latest ROM (4.4.4) using mfastboot. I could be as complex as using -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/how-to-resurrecting-bricked-moto-x-t2629057 ... or it could just be a brick that can't be recovered.
Either way, like @samwathegreat said... its a roll of the dice. There is no way of knowing until after you buy the phone and try.
KidJoe said:
... or it could just be a brick that can't be recovered.
Either way, like @samwathegreat said... its a roll of the dice. There is no way of knowing until after you buy the phone and try.
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I'll try, after all it's almost new, even if I need to replace something it would be cheaper than buying an used one, I'm worried about that CID stuff because I read that it has something to do with a unique file that has to be backed up and without that file there is nothing you can do to unbrick.
brurhh said:
I'll try, after all it's almost new, even if I need to replace something it would be cheaper than buying an used one, I'm worried about that CID stuff because I read that it has something to do with a unique file that has to be backed up and without that file there is nothing you can do to unbrick.
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I'd be worried too. There's a great chance the device can't be fixed... And you're simply out X amount of dollars.
I'd pocket your money and add a bit when you can and buy a used fully working device. At least the money won't be wasted... Potentially.
For all you know he fastbooted a rom or firmware for another device entirely. If so, you're done. Paperweight. He could have brought it somewhere and already been told it's unsalvagable.
You just don't know.
KJ said:
I'd be worried too. There's a great chance the device can't be fixed... And you're simply out X amount of dollars.
I'd pocket your money and add a bit when you can and buy a used fully working device. At least the money won't be wasted... Potentially.
For all you know he fastbooted a rom or firmware for another device entirely. If so, you're done. Paperweight. He could have brought it somewhere and already been told it's unsalvagable.
You just don't know.
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Thanks, what the seller says doesn't match with the fastboot screen thats my fear, I guess he don't know or perhaps doesn't want me to know how the phone really ended like that, this phone is amazing, I just got excited about getting it so cheap, i guess i'll wait more thanks again
brurhh said:
Thanks, what the seller says doesn't match with the fastboot screen thats my fear, I guess he don't know or perhaps doesn't want me to know how the phone really ended like that, this phone is amazing, I just got excited about getting it so cheap, i guess i'll wait more thanks again
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I don't blame you!
There's some bricks you can recover from, and some you can't.
Your odds are the same if you just go to the casino and put your money for the phone on red or black at the roulette table. If you lose you lose... But if you win... You can buy a working phone. ?
I live in the US and the phone works - but it's a Snapdragon, not an Exynos ( so ... better?) and I'm not really sure what to think now that I see the hardware model of it.
The only noticeable differences I could find are that handwriting defaulted to Chinese and the Chinese calendar seems burned into the Samsung Calendar app.
Anything I should look out for? Should I pursue a return through Amazon?
Samsung pay?
Try hard reset then immediately sideloading Samsung Pay 2.7.03 (apk from apkmirror) and Framework 2.7.51 see if spay will work.
If you have problems with language options in general, you can factory reset and set up your languages defaults from the very beginning (on the very first page, you will have a language selector, possibly showing Korean as a default choice, type the Korean writing and choose your favorite localization; this happens on any model by Samsung). This is highly recommended if you do not trust the vendor.
As far as I can tell, the main limitation of N9500 is localization of hardware-secured features: if you plan to use the (awesome) Samsung Pay, apparently you can do so only in Hong Kong so far (with N9500). As I understand, Samsung uses/experiments a more advanced system in Hong Kong, which you will not be able to use elsewhere. I have a N9500 and I want to try to spoof the model number in build.prop to see if one can cheat the phone to have Samsung Pay work everywhere.
Snapdragon vs Exynos is a mixed bag, depending on your workload. Exynos performs slightly better, Snapdragon will offer a faster web experience. In my opinion, no noticeable difference at all. However if you:
-Have a 64GB model
-Have a write heavy workload (quite rare, for instance you do some video-editing on phone or backup GB of data TO the phone every day)
exynos will perform noticeably better in these tasks since Samsung uses different NAND on the two models. For reading workload, again the difference is not noticeable.
Also, my guess is that you got N9500 for a better price: these are usually imported models from Hong Kong or UAE, with no official support. Importers likely got a much better price than the local Samsung offer, or maybe they avoided some import taxes via shady practices. If you paid the same as the official listing in your country, you may want to ask for a replacement regardless of the hardware.
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Just to clear out, in the message before I meant that both the conditions (64GB AND write heavy) need to be satisfied to have an Exynos preference.
I haven't run into any actual problems yet (4 hours of use?) and I'm trying to avoid any modifications while I decide how to handle this... The whole thing seems shady, there's a promotional coupon stuck over the model number on the box. I feel like it was done intentionally for some reason.
delugeofspam said:
I haven't run into any actual problems yet (4 hours of use?) and I'm trying to avoid any modifications while I decide how to handle this... The whole thing seems shady, there's a promotional coupon stuck over the model number on the box. I feel like it was done intentionally for some reason.
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Well if you were sold a model different than the listing description and you are worried/not happy about it, get your money back and make sure you don't lose even a penny (teaching seller a lesson in the process since a lot of this purposeful shadiness seems to be happening even when seller knows).
Don't be upset. You might have gotten the only Snapdragon variant with an unlockable bootloader out the box. If you don't mind double checking this, go to developer options and see if there's an OEM unlocking toggle. Then download Crom and run it, it should unlock your bootloader.
Paradoxumical said:
Don't be upset. You might have gotten the only Snapdragon variant with an unlockable bootloader out the box. If you don't mind double checking this, go to developer options and see if there's an OEM unlocking toggle. Then download Crom and run it, it should unlock your bootloader.
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Unfortunately, no such luck.
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Unfortunately, no such luck.
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Really? Damn, Samsung is seriously tightening things up, the HK and CN variants used to the only Snadragon models that came with an official bootloader unlock tool/method.
Paradoxumical said:
Really? Damn, Samsung is really tightening things up, the HK and CN variants used to the only Samsung models that came with an official bootloader unlock tool/method.
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Didn't people have to wait exactly a week after activation for that option to show up or something like that?
evangelionpunk said:
Didn't people have to wait exactly a week after activation for that option to show up or something like that?
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I don’t recall anything of the sort, but don’t hold that against me. My last Samsung device prior to the Note 8 was the S6 (which I despised). The S5 was Samsung’s last great and true user/developer/mod friendly device. Even though the design got a lot of hate, I quite liked it. It went to eight different countries with me, and never gave me grief even though I used it as an underwater camera countless times.
Paradoxumical said:
I don’t recall anything of the sort, but don’t hold that against me. My last Samsung device prior to the Note 8 was the S6 (which I despised). The S5 was Samsung’s last great and true user/developer/mod friendly device. Even though the design got a lot of hate, I quite liked it. It went to eight different countries with me, and never gave me grief even though I used it as an underwater camera countless times.
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Yep double checked and there is a 1 week wait post activation for OEM UNLOCK option to appear.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-8-exynos-n950f-fd-oem-unlock-t3673140/page64
Not sure if applies to qualcomm variants too. Doesnt HK/CN by law require OEM UNLOCK? Read something along this line somewhere here.
evangelionpunk said:
Yep double checked and there is a 1 week wait post activation for OEM UNLOCK option to appear.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-8-exynos-n950f-fd-oem-unlock-t3673140/page64
Not sure if applies to qualcomm variants too. Doesnt HK/CN by law require OEM UNLOCK? Read something along this line somewhere here.
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Hey! That’s amazing news for OP. I believe HK/CN does require that by law. I remember when the S7 was released there, it looked so sleek without the Samsung logos.
Paradoxumical said:
Hey! That’s amazing news for OP. I believe HK/CN does require that by law. I remember when the S7 was released there, it looked so sleek without the Samsung logos.
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Yep it would be if it applies to Qualcomm variants and if it does it may only apply to HK/CN variants.
Maybe someone that has already had this model for 7+ days can confirm it for him.
The company I purchased it from refuses to advance-replace this with the phone I ordered and seems to expect me to pay to ship it back to them. This is probably going to turn into a dispute with Amazon, so I'm out another $900+ as I have to get into a new phone ASAP, and leave this one with zero wear.
I'm pretty convinced that I want the N950FD/S Aus, Europe & Lat edition of this phone despite living in the U.S. I don't want to suffer heavily locked bootloaders even for a Snapdragon and it seems there is more development for Exynos.
Please, though, tell me I'm wrong and that I should keep this phone that I dumped hours into configuring before catching on to the damn Chinese calendar embedded in the Samsung Calendar app :|
Damn yeah I would return it and get the exynos model you want oem unlock for sure ! I love my deep sea blue 256gb N950N its a work horse things were a pain at first but most the issues have been sorted out and its the best 1200$ i spent.
delugeofspam said:
The company I purchased it from refuses to advance-replace this with the phone I ordered and seems to expect me to pay to ship it back to them. This is probably going to turn into a dispute with Amazon, so I'm out another $900+ as I have to get into a new phone ASAP, and leave this one with zero wear.
I'm pretty convinced that I want the N950FD/S Aus, Europe & Lat edition of this phone despite living in the U.S. I don't want to suffer heavily locked bootloaders even for a Snapdragon and it seems there is more development for Exynos.
Please, though, tell me I'm wrong and that I should keep this phone that I dumped hours into configuring before catching on to the damn Chinese calendar embedded in the Samsung Calendar app :|
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If I were you, I would keep it. I’m 92% sure TWRP will pop-up for your device in the upcoming weeks. I don’t know if Samsung has released the kernel source yet, but once they do, I’ll be more than happy to compile it for you. I remember the same thing happened with the HK/CN variant of the S7. Holding out a week to see if OEM Unlocking shows up will be worth if it does.
Dont want to start a new thread so hopefully someone can help on here.
I ordered a N950fd but have received a N9500. It's currently sat in dubai waiting for a friend to bring back to UK.
Should i stick with it or get the N950FD instead? I would like to use Samsung pay but it's not a deal breaker as dont use it that much now anyway. Is there anything else i should be worried about?
thanks
So you ordered the Big Mac and got a Cheeseburger...
If you were at Macca's would you complain and want the right order? I know I would...
ultramag69 said:
So you ordered the Big Mac and got a Cheeseburger...
If you were at Macca's would you complain and want the right order? I know I would...
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Lol do you really think there's that much difference?
imy300 said:
Lol do you really think there's that much difference?
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Yes.....
Not only is there a difference, but I want what I ordered...
Hello,
I am looking to purchase a Verizon Z3 (not the Play version that's available on amazon) and I was wondering if anyone knew which LTE bands are available? I will be using AT&T and I need Band 4 and Band 17 in my area. Can anyone confirm that the Verizon version of the Z3 has these? Thanks in advance.
MrBaltazar said:
Hello,
I am looking to purchase a Verizon Z3 (not the Play version that's available on amazon) and I was wondering if anyone knew which LTE bands are available? I will be using AT&T and I need Band 4 and Band 17 in my area. Can anyone confirm that the Verizon version of the Z3 has these? Thanks in advance.
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I am not sure of the answer to your actual question, but wanted to point out that based on the past moto devices and Verizon, that you'll be guaranteeing yourself a device who's bootloader you will never be able to unlock.
Just wanted to mention that, not sure if it matters to you. And possibly you're aware of this already too.
Hi,
you´ll find the specs here.
I think the phone will be locked to verizon inside the US and is only "Internationally unlocked".
you can use it outside the US with any carrier.
Sam_11 said:
Hi,
you´ll find the specs here.
I think the phone will be locked to verizon inside the US and is only "Internationally unlocked".
you can use it outside the US with any carrier.
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Sam, are you sure, that this phone can be also used in Europe / Germany? I thought about getting it via eBay, but I have not yet found any reliable source for really knowing that it will be completely unlocked for all German carriers.
So I am still looking for the Chinese Z3 version with even 6GB RAM. So I would have the advantage to get the same specs as those of my Z2 Force, but with the profit of the amazing Z3 screen (I really dislike the Z2 Force's "plastic" screen). But so far, I have not found any source to order the Chinese Z3 version. Maybe, anybody else?
Buy from Motorola directly, unlocked for global use.
Don't install sim untill you unlock bootloader & Root is done. If the bands you are interested in using are not engaged then use qcom tool software to turn them on.
Maheshwara said:
Sam, are you sure, that this phone can be also used in Europe / Germany? I thought about getting it via eBay, but I have not yet found any reliable source for really knowing that it will be completely unlocked for all German carriers.
So I am still looking for the Chinese Z3 version with even 6GB RAM. So I would have the advantage to get the same specs as those of my Z2 Force, but with the profit of the amazing Z3 screen (I really dislike the Z2 Force's "plastic" screen). But so far, I have not found any source to order the Chinese Z3 version. Maybe, anybody else?
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I can tell you in 2 weeks, i've bought one today.
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Maheshwara said:
Sam, are you sure, that this phone can be also used in Europe / Germany? I thought about getting it via eBay, but I have not yet found any reliable source for really knowing that it will be completely unlocked for all German carriers.
So I am still looking for the Chinese Z3 version with even 6GB RAM. So I would have the advantage to get the same specs as those of my Z2 Force, but with the profit of the amazing Z3 screen (I really dislike the Z2 Force's "plastic" screen). But so far, I have not found any source to order the Chinese Z3 version. Maybe, anybody else?
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As an FYI, the Moto Z3 IS Locked to Verizon ONLY in the US, Bootloader is also LOCKED and I HATE THE PHONE! It 's a $480.00 BILLBOARD! Nothing but Ads, Ads, Ads! You can't unlock the booltoader (I tried), so you can't root it, no root no adblock. :crying: So if you don't mind spending $500 and having CONSTANT, FULL SCREEN, OBTRUSIVE ADS popup while your viewing something, then this is the phone for you!!
BTW, the screen is also plastic, so be certain to get yourself a Tempered Glass Screen protector as soon as you get the phone, because the screen scratches very easily!
I'll be selling mine on eBay very soon!
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Mental1 said:
Buy from Motorola directly, unlocked for global use.
Don't install sim untill you unlock bootloader & Root is done. If the bands you are interested in using are not engaged then use qcom tool software to turn them on.
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FYI, can't unlock the bootloader, I tried to before I installed the sim, no go. the electronic serial number generated as the bootloader unlock code is set to VZW and CAN NOT BE UNLOCKED!:crying: I bought mine from Moto directly and it was shipped from China.
If you bought it directly from Motorola and it was shipped from China, so it's the 6GB RAM Version with ZUI Firmware?
wanb1i said:
As an FYI, the Moto Z3 IS Locked to Verizon ONLY in the US, Bootloader is also LOCKED and I HATE THE PHONE! It 's a $480.00 BILLBOARD! Nothing but Ads, Ads, Ads! You can't unlock the booltoader (I tried), so you can't root it, no root no adblock. :crying: So if you don't mind spending $500 and having CONSTANT, FULL SCREEN, OBTRUSIVE ADS popup while your viewing something, then this is the phone for you!!
BTW, the screen is also plastic, so be certain to get yourself a Tempered Glass Screen protector as soon as you get the phone, because the screen scratches very easily!
I'll be selling mine on eBay very soon!
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FYI, can't unlock the bootloader, I tried to before I installed the sim, no go. the electronic serial number generated as the bootloader unlock code is set to VZW and CAN NOT BE UNLOCKED!:crying: I bought mine from Moto directly and it was shipped from China.
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Well that sucks for you. I purchased my z3 play direct from Moto on a presale offer and it was not shipped from China. I used it for about 3 weeks before cracking the top 2 corners of the display from a "pop out of pocket, hit the blacktop and slid down my driveway" accident. Thanks to Moto's added warranty protection, they replaced it with a brand new in the box z3 play. So, before installing my Verizon sim, I setup the phone and used it on wifi for 2 days, also I never signed into Google, and made sure everything worked. This time being as F'n busy with my job and not having the time to modify it, I used the OCR service, paid the $$ and within a hour, unlocked bootloader and rooted. Once again, I used it for a day before finally installing my sim. I love the phone now and ripped through this ***** removing/adding apps and features to customize/personalize it to my liking. I have not installed the twrp recovery yet. That is next but as of now, not a single issue with anything. OCR, left me every file that was used for the unlock bootloader & Rooting process. If it helps anybody, I can upload what ever file anyone may need.
Sent using my Awesome ROOTED Moto Z3 Play
Maheshwara said:
If you bought it directly from Motorola and it was shipped from China, so it's the 6GB RAM Version with ZUI Firmware?
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No, 4gb ram/64gb storage, Verizon Bloatware.
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Mental1 said:
Well that sucks for you. I purchased my z3 play direct from Moto on a presale offer and it was not shipped from China. I used it for about 3 weeks before cracking the top 2 corners of the display from a "pop out of pocket, hit the blacktop and slid down my driveway" accident. Thanks to Moto's added warranty protection, they replaced it with a brand new in the box z3 play. So, before installing my Verizon sim, I setup the phone and used it on wifi for 2 days, also I never signed into Google, and made sure everything worked. This time being as F'n busy with my job and not having the time to modify it, I used the OCR service, paid the $$ and within a hour, unlocked bootloader and rooted. Once again, I used it for a day before finally installing my sim. I love the phone now and ripped through this ***** removing/adding apps and features to customize/personalize it to my liking. I have not installed the twrp recovery yet. That is next but as of now, not a single issue with anything. OCR, left me every file that was used for the unlock bootloader & Rooting process. If it helps anybody, I can upload what ever file anyone may need.
Sent using my Awesome ROOTED Moto Z3 Play
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Yep, that's because it's a Z3 "PLAY", not a Z3 which is "LOCKED" to Verizon from the factory. :crying: Mine's on eBay if anyone want's to buy it.
Verizon bloatware is easily disabled. I've had no trouble with ads. Anyone who buys a Verizon phone should know they're usually not bootloader unlockable if you're sophisticated enough to consider unlocking it. My phone's working great so ymmv.
Mines from Verizon but it's unlocked out of the box. Yes the bootloader is locked, but I can use the phone with T-Mobile etc...
wanb1i said:
As an FYI, the Moto Z3 IS Locked to Verizon ONLY in the US, Bootloader is also LOCKED and I HATE THE PHONE! It 's a $480.00 BILLBOARD! Nothing but Ads, Ads, Ads! You can't unlock the booltoader (I tried), so you can't root it, no root no adblock. :crying: So if you don't mind spending $500 and having CONSTANT, FULL SCREEN, OBTRUSIVE ADS popup while your viewing something, then this is the phone for you!!
BTW, the screen is also plastic, so be certain to get yourself a Tempered Glass Screen protector as soon as you get the phone, because the screen scratches very easily!
I'll be selling mine on eBay very soon!
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FYI, can't unlock the bootloader, I tried to before I installed the sim, no go. the electronic serial number generated as the bootloader unlock code is set to VZW and CAN NOT BE UNLOCKED!:crying: I bought mine from Moto directly and it was shipped from China.
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Umm, not sure where you're getting this all from?
I bought a Z3 from the Verizon store at $480 it is a steal for this caliber of phone. It is NOT LOCKED, I was able to use it on AT&T and T-Mobile with no issue. Only thing that happens is when you reboot the phone it says "Sim card not from Verizon". Just swipe on the notification and it disappears and does not come back unless you reboot. Any of the Verizon apps are easily disabled and I do not have any ads of any sort, a pretty close to pure android experience. If you have ads, maybe you have a Z3 play Amazon version? not sure if they even made one for z3. I'm so confused on where you're getting ads from?
Also the screen is definitely glass...also don't know where you're getting this from. I also dropped my phone, no cracks, but display has a big blue spot on it. Was told that if there is no crack, it will be fixed for free. Even if they do find that there is physical damage, they will replace it for $150, which I think is more than reasonable. Just sent it off on the weekend so I'll find out soon. I wish there was a z3 force, would gladly deal with the plastic screen in order not to have to worry about it cracking. My Droid Turbo 2 was wonderful because of that.
Overall the z3 has been a great phone, the side fingerprint reader is awesome too. Was a bit worried about it, but got used to it pretty quick. Now that I sent mine in, I'm having to use my old Z droid, and realizing how a front fingerprint reader is not as convenient as a side one.
So I'm very curious, where did you find a Z3, that is locked, with ads and with a plastic screen? you sure you have a z3?
I have owned Verizon only version phones, from the Droid Turbo, Droid Turbo 2 and now the Z3, all of them have been able to work on any network as long as the bands match up, and I've been able to use them in many countries and in the US with no issue.
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So I'm very curious, where did you find a Z3, that is locked, with ads and with a plastic screen? you sure you have a z3?.
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In the event you are unaware, there are malicious apps capable of displaying apps on a user's device. Being that Amazon only offers the Z3 Play, which is impossible to confuse with a VZ branded device, this leads credibility to this being the problem.
Reviewers seem to like the screen, so pethaps they have a different Moto phone altogether? Who knows. VZ carries other Moto devices.
Mental1 said:
Well that sucks for you. I purchased my z3 play direct from Moto on a presale offer and it was not shipped from China. I used it for about 3 weeks before cracking the top 2 corners of the display from a "pop out of pocket, hit the blacktop and slid down my driveway" accident. Thanks to Moto's added warranty protection, they replaced it with a brand new in the box z3 play. So, before installing my Verizon sim, I setup the phone and used it on wifi for 2 days, also I never signed into Google, and made sure everything worked. This time being as F'n busy with my job and not having the time to modify it, I used the OCR service, paid the $$ and within a hour, unlocked bootloader and rooted. Once again, I used it for a day before finally installing my sim. I love the phone now and ripped through this ***** removing/adding apps and features to customize/personalize it to my liking. I have not installed the twrp recovery yet. That is next but as of now, not a single issue with anything. OCR, left me every file that was used for the unlock bootloader & Rooting process. If it helps anybody, I can upload what ever file anyone may need.
Sent using my Awesome ROOTED Moto Z3 Play
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I need this info!!!!! Where did you get it done? I don't mind having to pay $$ for it... As long as it's not $$$$$$$$$$ lol
Lord_Worm said:
I need this info!!!!! Where did you get it done? I don't mind having to pay $$ for it... As long as it's not $$$$$$$$$$ lol
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One Click Root took care of everything from new "out of box" to Unlocked BL to Root all for less then 2 joints.
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One Click Root took care of everything from new "out of box" to Unlocked BL to Root all for less then 2 joints.
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Thanks for the info. I'll look into it. I'm wondering where to find a little guiding on this: I posted elsewhere in the forum, but I spoke directly with a Motorola rep and they confirmed I was shipped a factory firmware test model. I'm not even sure what that means exactly. I know that I have modified several system files and actually had them stick, and now I'm wondering if I can flash a different firmware, and be on a different software channel altogether without bricking my device. My ultimate goal is bootloader unlock and root, but alas, every thing I read online says otherwise. I still would like to humor the thought of a possibility @ unlocking my bootloader without any crazy bootstomp vulnerability exploit
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One Click Root took care of everything from new "out of box" to Unlocked BL to Root all for less then 2 joints.
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Yeah, I find it terribly odd that it says that the Moto Z3 Play isn't a supported device. Are you sure you're telling the truth over there? Sounds almost gimmicky to me. No offense sir, but I literally just went through the process with them.
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Thanks for the info. I'll look into it. I'm wondering where to find a little guiding on this: I posted elsewhere in the forum, but I spoke directly with a Motorola rep and they confirmed I was shipped a factory firmware test model. I'm not even sure what that means exactly. I know that I have modified several system files and actually had them stick, and now I'm wondering if I can flash a different firmware, and be on a different software channel altogether without bricking my device. My ultimate goal is bootloader unlock and root, but alas, every thing I read online says otherwise. I still would like to humor the thought of a possibility @ unlocking my bootloader without any crazy bootstomp vulnerability exploit
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Normally I do all my devices, cells, tabs and tv but I've been so busy I couldn't do any major research before attempting mental melt down. The one thing I can say is while watching it be done, they went directly through Moto site for the unlocking of the BL. After that the process from there was your standard adb & fb commands. Now they did download a "Official Firmware" file, flashed it, used Magisk, reflashed again and done. I read the same good & bad crap online as you and basically once you get it done , redo it your own way. The hard part is done, lol. It has been running great since done months ago. I made a change or two since then and still no issues. If I get a chance, I'll post the zip file they used and firmware pkg if it helps you.
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Normally I do all my devices, cells, tabs and tv but I've been so busy I couldn't do any major research before attempting mental melt down. The one thing I can say is while watching it be done, they went directly through Moto site for the unlocking of the BL. After that the process from there was your standard adb & fb commands. Now they did download a "Official Firmware" file, flashed it, used Magisk, reflashed again and done. I read the same good & bad crap online as you and basically once you get it done , redo it your own way. The hard part is done, lol. It has been running great since done months ago. I made a change or two since then and still no issues. If I get a chance, I'll post the zip file they used and firmware pkg if it helps you.
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I'll take a picture of the boot up screens showing the unlocked bootloader and post them.
Hello to everyone reading this,so i probably know the answer to this already but i am going to ask anyway. Maybe by some sort of unlikely miracle i get the answer im hoping for. It was recently established for me that i will probably never get to root my XZ2 model H8216 because re-locking the bootloader to sell the phone is not possible and the fact that the only proper DRM fiy available,you must pay a lot of money for.
Anyhow,that all being what it is,im left with a device i cant root and get rid of certain bloat apps etc,as well as virtually no customisation at all with regards font style and so on. Now i am aware that there is a script of sorts available to remove all bloat,but i dont want to remove all and only certain apps. That brings me to my question though,using ADB commands,is there no way that on could change stuff like the navigation bar with regards to height and maybe transparency?
Is there any Dev or clever person among you that would look into it and other basics so hat the average user such as myself,who now cant root and doesnt have the knowledge to play around with the device settings etc via ADB etc,has got at least some sort of customisation options for our wonderful devices that we cant fully enjoy because we simply cannot root them.
Trace.Oneil said:
Hello to everyone reading this,so i probably know the answer to this already but i am going to ask anyway. Maybe by some sort of unlikely miracle i get the answer im hoping for. It was recently established for me that i will probably never get to root my XZ2 model H8216 because re-locking the bootloader to sell the phone is not possible and the fact that the only proper DRM fiy available,you must pay a lot of money for.
Anyhow,that all being what it is,im left with a device i cant root and get rid of certain bloat apps etc,as well as virtually no customisation at all with regards font style and so on. Now i am aware that there is a script of sorts available to remove all bloat,but i dont want to remove all and only certain apps. That brings me to my question though,using ADB commands,is there no way that on could change stuff like the navigation bar with regards to height and maybe transparency?
Is there any Dev or clever person among you that would look into it and other basics so hat the average user such as myself,who now cant root and doesnt have the knowledge to play around with the device settings etc via ADB etc,has got at least some sort of customisation options for our wonderful devices that we cant fully enjoy because we simply cannot root them.
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Not getting a new phone on every contract extension of your mobile network provider is much more cheaper.
You even don't need to "extend" it.
Search in comparing portals for the cheapest provider, say your actual provider that you want to end your contract and your actual provider will give you some price reductions to keep you as customer.
And even if you can "relock" the bootloader of other devices, the device manufacturer will know if you unlocked it.
That's not a Sony thing.
You need to unlock the device to root on every phone and that will void the warranty on every phone. Regardless if it's a Sony, Samsung, etc.
MartinX3 said:
Not getting a new phone on every contract extension of your mobile network provider is much more cheaper.
You even don't need to "extend" it.
Search in comparing portals for the cheapest provider, say your actual provider that you want to end your contract and your actual provider will give you some price reductions to keep you as customer.
And even if you can "relock" the bootloader of other devices, the device manufacturer will know if you unlocked it.
That's not a Sony thing.
You need to unlock the device to root on every phone and that will void the warranty on every phone. Regardless if it's a Sony, Samsung, etc.[
@MartinX3[/MENTION],you have totally mirunderstood my point here. Firstly,i CHOOSE to upgrade to a newer device at the end of my contract term because it gives me the means to stay up to date with the latest manufacturer releases and the latest Android software version available. Secondly,i am well aware that the manufacturer is aware of the device being unlocked,but in most situations your service provider is not and they are the ones that do the repairs as they have technicians who are trained by said manufacturer to work on their products,its only in major cases where you are claiming for a replacement device or the technician is unable to repair the device himself,that it would then be sent back to the manufacturer and then the status of it being unlocked would become an issue.
In this particular insance,my not being able to root my phone,is more as a result of the large amount wanted as payment for the only proper DRM fix that is available and not so much an issue of the bootloader not being re-lockable,although it is a concern for me personally as well. My living in South Africa and said country having a weak currency makes the amount wanted for the DRM fix a problem for me as at the current exchange rate,it would cost me over 300 South African rands,which is a lot of money,especially when you have to stretch every rand as far as you can because you are unemployed and live off a Government allowance which is only R1600 a month and with that you must buy food etc,pay my phone contract and so on. I welcome any of you to try and survive on that,especially with the current extremely high cost of living in my country as a result of a very corrupt government.
Hence my post asking if there arent any Dev's or intelligent persons out there that could maybe look into ways to customise our devices to a certain extent for those like myself,that for whatever reason,are unable to root their devices. And still would like to be able to change basics like the navigation bar height etc wiuth ADB or something.
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MartinX3 said:
Not getting a new phone on every contract extension of your mobile network provider is much more cheaper.
You even don't need to "extend" it.
Search in comparing portals for the cheapest provider, say your actual provider that you want to end your contract and your actual provider will give you some price reductions to keep you as customer.
And even if you can "relock" the bootloader of other devices, the device manufacturer will know if you unlocked it.
That's not a Sony thing.
You need to unlock the device to root on every phone and that will void the warranty on every phone. Regardless if it's a Sony, Samsung, etc.[
@MartinX3[/MENTION],you have totally mirunderstood my point here. Firstly,i CHOOSE to upgrade to a newer device at the end of my contract term because it gives me the means to stay up to date with the latest manufacturer releases and the latest Android software version available. Secondly,i am well aware that the manufacturer is aware of the device being unlocked,but in most situations your service provider is not and they are the ones that do the repairs as they have technicians who are trained by said manufacturer to work on their products,its only in major cases where you are claiming for a replacement device or the technician is unable to repair the device himself,that it would then be sent back to the manufacturer and then the status of it being unlocked would become an issue.
In this particular insance,my not being able to root my phone,is more as a result of the large amount wanted as payment for the only proper DRM fix that is available and not so much an issue of the bootloader not being re-lockable,although it is a concern for me personally as well. My living in South Africa and said country having a weak currency makes the amount wanted for the DRM fix a problem for me as at the current exchange rate,it would cost me over 300 South African rands,which is a lot of money,especially when you have to stretch every rand as far as you can because you are unemployed and live off a Government allowance which is only R1600 a month and with that you must buy food etc,pay my phone contract and so on. I welcome any of you to try and survive on that,especially with the current extremely high cost of living in my country as a result of a very corrupt government.
Hence my post asking if there arent any Dev's or intelligent persons out there that could maybe look into ways to customise our devices to a certain extent for those like myself,that for whatever reason,are unable to root their devices. And still would like to be able to change basics like the navigation bar height etc wiuth ADB or something.
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@sToRm//
TL;DR
She lives in south africa and the 19€ are in south africa currency many money.
Could you give here a discount?
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MartinX3 said:
Trace.Oneil said:
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She lives in south africa and the 19€ are in south africa currency many money.
Could you give here a discount?
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Lol @MartinX3,thanks but i am not looking for a handout. The Dev did the work and made the fix available through many hours of hard work so he is entitled to ask what he wants to for it. I really wouldnt be able to afford any sort of discount offered to me anyway as i am already living beyond what i get from my corrupt government. That is why i simply wont be rooting my device,but i would very much like it if someone could find a way to maybe bring about a way to change the navigation bar height and maybe somehow a way to change system font style etc without root. For me that would already be a huge difference in the stock appearance.
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