In the specification of LG Urbane 2LTE it says that it has NFC. (see Picture)
Is that correct, if so how do i activate the NFC?
LB
telb said:
In the specification of LG Urbane 2LTE it says that it has NFC. (see Picture)
Is that correct, if so how do i activate the NFC?
LB
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It does have NFC, according to FCC documents, but there isn't a use for it yet. Android Wear hasn't included function like payments with NFC.... yet. Hopefully version 2.0 will have this later this year.
AW 2.0 has NFC service, however, it hasn't been activated yet. You can find it by going into All System Applications in AW 2.0.
I doubt it be in AW 2.0, since Google announced all the features at Google I/O 2016 coming to AW 2.0, Android Pay wasn't one of them. I think it be released as AW 2.1, or as a minor upgrade to AW 2.0 when released.
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Hello,
I had an interesting offer for the watch yesterday (30% off on Cyber Monday) and will get it by the end of the week. As Google Fit doesn't seem to work very well, any change that this watch manages S-Health (I have on my Note 3) ?
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Tonio78370 said:
Hello,
I had an interesting offer for the watch yesterday (30% off on Cyber Monday) and will get it by the end of the week. As Google Fit doesn't seem to work very well, any change that this watch manages S-Health (I have on my Note 3) ?
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No, but that may change in the future. Now that Samsung has an Android Wear smartwatch, they have hinted at expanding. Seems like a matter of time.
On a side note, the Endomondo app seems to work pretty well, if you need a stop-gap in the meantime.
Got an S-health update yesterday an saw "S-health installed" message on the watch. Unfortunately a false alarm as the app doesn't show up... [emoji17]
Hey Guys,
Just noticed Android Wear's upcoming update claiming that it will enable the dormant WiFi that "most Android Wear watches already have the hardware for" and I'm hoping this one is no exception! Can anyone confirm if the G watch R's version of the Snapdragon 400 has the WiFi chip on board?
Really want to pull the trigger on this watch, wifi connectivity would push me over the fence to finally justify Android Wear ...
Peut être, en tout cas,la puce wifi est intégrée au snapdragon 400 normalement.
Wow that would be really nice
Take a look here. It looks like the GWR has indeed wifi on board
The Snapdragon 400 which is in the LG G Watch R comes with the following on the chip found here:
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/400
LTE:
Integrated 4G LTE Advanced World Mode, supporting LTE FDD, LTE TDD, WCDMA (DC-HSPA+), CDMA1x, EV-DO Rev. B, TD-SCDMA and GSM/EDGE
CAT4 speeds of up to 150 Mbps
3rd Generation integrated LTE modem, with support for LTE-Broadcast and LTE multimode dual-SIM (DSDS and DSDA)"
WiFi:
Qualcomm® VIVE™ 802.11n/ac† Integrated digital core
GPS:
Qualcomm® IZat™ Gen8A
Unless I'm missing something here those are all included in the chip right per QualComm's website.
They can still be disabled, and Qualcomm need payment for the drivers and license, also antennas are needed. Of course that all might be already covered.
Nice to hear
And you can see this link too http://www.slideshare.net/jjwu6266/qualcomm-snapdragon-400based-android-wear
w w w .notebookcheck.net/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-400-APQ8026-SoC.127990.0.html
My fear was it had a variant of the Snapdragon 400, the APQ8026, that didn't have WiFi capability, or as mentioned earlier, a missing antenna (or some other hardware excuse or limitation) that would not permit enabling WiFi once the update is out... Hope I'm wrong
Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 MSM8226 this processor is LG G Watch R
Zabol said:
Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 MSM8226 this processor is LG G Watch R
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I think its 8026 model you can refer it in wikipedia too
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I think its 8026 model you can refer it in wikipedia too
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Darn.. Really hoping its the chipset with wireless built in... Really don't want to have to listen to all the Apple Watch owners at work.. "Well my watch does not need to be connected to the phone".. grr... BTW, I actually switched from an Iphone 6 back to android (been about 4 years) just for this watch.. Lets hope we do have the wireless chipset... Now Now I know some of you may be thinking.. "Why whats the big deal, its supposed to be a companion device".. I agree, just would be nice to have the option..
If the bluetooth and wifi is part of the same module then there is a good chance that they share the same antenna for 2.4 ghz.
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The G Watch R does indeed have a Qualcomm APQ8026 as stated by the AIDA64 android wear app. However, the APQ8026 is also used on several Microsoft, LG, and Samsung smartphones and tablets that clearly have wifi connectivity, so that is a good sign.
Here's the chipset claims I found so far for this watch:
gsmarena.com/lg_g_watch_r-review-1173.php
Claims "Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 (MSM8226)", article is dated Dec 1 2014.
Source 2, Wikipedia, claims "Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 MSM8226"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_G_Watch_R
Source 3, claims "MSM8026"
hwbot.org/hardware/device/3727/w110_g_watch_r/
So not sure if it varies by region, or nobody really knows which chipset lurks beneath.. No sign of specs on LG's website, the manual pdf, or Google Store.
What if you try to check chipset via adb, does "Hardware:" show anything on android wear?
Code:
adb shell cat proc/cpuinfo
Other than updating the time and weather etc, what benefits would WiFi have anyways? The phone is still needed for most interactive services isn't it? And wouldn't any real benefits require the wear api to be updated heavily?
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Other than updating the time and weather etc, what benefits would WiFi have anyways? The phone is still needed for most interactive services isn't it? And wouldn't any real benefits require the wear api to be updated heavily?
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By connecting through the same WiFi network, one would get the benefit of knowing all the notifications, calls, updates, etc. without having to have the main phone on you all the time (in my case, my beloved bulky note 3). Basically keeps the watch functional within the bigger range of a home/office WiFi network rather than just when it's in device Bluetooth range. At least that's what I'm hoping for.
Using WiFi, the watch would never need to be near the phone for anything, except security if you have a screen lock that turns on when away from the watch.
Everything could be managed via Wifi instead of Bluetooth. No more worries if walking away from your phone and losing connection to everything. Android Wear could be adjusted to manage everything via WiFi instead. Or, use both Bluetooth and Wifi interchangeably as needed.
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For me it would have extremely limited usefulness anyway, about the only place I have a Wifi connection is at home... where my phone will be.
AIDA 64 run on the watch reports the CPU as the 8026.
Just a final update on the topic, it seems that another discussion regarding the older LG g watch (with similar internal hardware as newer g watch r), the only radio chipset seen was the BT 4.0, and "no wifi hardware in sight" as explained by fellow member ShadowEO:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g-w...-watch-gps-t3032275/post59466827#post59466827
And a comparison of both watches confirming that the r version (w110) is identical in processor specs as the previous w100 model, both with the 8026 snapdragon 400, and no WiFi support:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=6694&id2=6405
"GPS Module Type: gpsOneGen 8A with GLONASS"
Does this mean our watch have gps like SWR3 but disabled?
After all this debate on whether this thing has WiFi support or now, I decided to tear mine apart to provide some better shots of the internals than the crap iFixit teardown.
Tonight, I'll be seeing someone to see if we can get that metal shroud off without damaging the board.
Disassembly Album
Edit: Updated the album with closeup shots of the ICs
Current parts list:
SK Hynix H9TU32A4GDMC-LRKGM - PoP 512 MB LPDDR2 + 4 GB eMMC (same as G Watch)
Qualcomm PM8226 - Power Management IC (same as G Watch)
Qualcomm WCD9302 - Audio Codec (not in G Watch?)
AKM AK8963 - Compass IC (same as G Watch)
Synaptics S3526B - Touch controller (different model in G Watch)
InvenSense MPU-6515 (?) - 3 axis gyro and accelerometer (same as G Watch)
Broadcom BCM4343WKUBG - Bluetooth 4.2 and WiFi b/g/n (different from G Watch)
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After all this debate on whether this thing has WiFi support or now, I decided to tear mine apart to provide some better shots of the internals than the crap iFixit teardown.
Tonight, I'll be seeing someone to see if we can get that metal shroud off without damaging the board.
Disassembly Album
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Thats awesome man! Looking forward to the pics.
I got the shielding off and as LG claimed, the Broadcom chip (BCM4343WKUBG) supports WiFi. Pics are in my album.
It's also very likely that their "no antenna" excuse is total BS. Given that this specific BCM4343 SKU is specifically designed for WiFi+BT in wearables, Broadcom would be stupid to require 2 antennas in such a small device when 1 would suffice.
Adding further evidence for WiFi support is commits from LG employees working specifically on BCM4343 WiFi support in Android 5.1:
https://android.googlesource.com/pl...an/+/1a8bf7a905f23a1f2948dcbc6a101b443233917e
https://android.googlesource.com/pl...an/+/69ffc0b6785198631bf617a6bad44c51c997fd49
Good job!
Yet LG are still denying that the R is capable of utilizing wifi at all. I guess if it is just LG dragging their feet and the hardware is all there, hopefully someone will port the Urbane kernel for us. Fingers crossed.
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Yet LG are still denying that the R is capable of utilizing wifi at all. I guess if it is just LG dragging their feet and the hardware is all there, hopefully someone will port the Urbane kernel for us. Fingers crossed.
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Actually theyve yet to come with an official answer. Which is weird.
I've said it once and I'll said it again, none of the LG customer service reps know the answer to the wifi question. You can call and ask and get a different answer everytime. If the hardware does in fact exist, as the evidence does indicate, then either LG is purposely disabling it to push sales of their watch urbane or we will get the update. We will find out soon enough. If it turns out that WiFi support is purposely omitted then I trust the hive mind that is XDA will figure out how to get it working.
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I've said it once and I'll said it again, none of the LG customer service reps know the answer to the wifi question. You can call and ask and get a different answer everytime. If the hardware does in fact exist, as the evidence does indicate, then either LG is purposely disabling it to push sales of their watch urbane or we will get the update. We will find out soon enough. If it turns out that WiFi support is purposely omitted then I trust the hive mind that is XDA will figure out how to get it working.
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Apparently LG has tweeted about it not having the correct hardware. But i agree with you. These people are probably regular everyday idiots hired just to tweet or answer phones and they have no idea what theyre actually saying. Anyway, i just made this post in another thread about this: forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60384338&postcount=65
Google are responsible for all current software on Wear devices, LG shouldn't have anything to do with whether the update has wifi or not, if the hardware is capable.
very good job
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Google are responsible for all current software on Wear devices, LG shouldn't have anything to do with whether the update has wifi or not, if the hardware is capable.
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Nope, lg can retouch the update a bit before releasing it!
Great thread - the news we've been hoping for!
Very good job !!
thx cgutman :good:
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Nope, lg can retouch the update a bit before releasing it!
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A bit, doesn't mean remove features.
In a frustrated attempt at an explanation regarding wifi capability of R, one of LG's European workers, when confronted with the FCC report that says the clock has everything you need for wifi, it said that there are differences between the US and european versions and in particular one of the differences would be even wifi (how convenient)!
So the question is ...
Can anyone confirm if there really is a difference between the versions!
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In a frustrated attempt at an explanation regarding wifi capability of R, one of LG's European workers, when confronted with the FCC report that says the clock has everything you need for wifi, it said that there are differences between the US and european versions and in particular one of the differences would be even wifi (how convenient)!
So the question is ...
Can anyone confirm if there really is a difference between the versions!
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Bs on bs, that's what i think!
This is definitely the last LG product I will purchase. It's complete and utter BS that they can't get this right.
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Bs on bs, that's what i think!
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Totally agree with you! However in the end it will be the LG that will decide whether appeals to customers who purchased the Watch R or will be greedy and will want to foist the same device but masi polished for another 100 euros / dollars!
However should be aware that displease old customers will not certainly draw new or maintain they already have !!!
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This is definitely the last LG product I will purchase. It's complete and utter BS that they can't get this right.
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Did you buy the watch on the promise that it would some day support WiFi? probably not..
Do you expect these customer support people that you've been contacting to really have a clue as to what the future plans of LG are concerning this watch?
Is LG being unusually quiet about this? Yes! But they are probably just taking the "safe" approach.
People complain about features they were never even promised. I can only imagine the feedback they'd get if they made a statement that they couldn't back up.
Just my opinion...
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Did you buy the watch on the promise that it would some day support WiFi? probably not..
Do you expect these customer support people that you've been contacting to really have a clue as to what the future plans of LG are concerning this watch?
Is LG being unusually quiet about this? Yes! But they are probably just taking the "safe" approach.
People complain about features they were never even promised. I can only imagine the feedback they'd get if they made a statement that they couldn't back up.
Just my opinion...
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The question is...
If the Watch R really haves the capability of Wi-Fi, why LG don't allow? What they earn? People with a 6 months old device leave it and buy almost the same but more expensive? I don't believe!
But in other hand if the watch really don't have the capability... then bad luck!
The problem is that according with a lot of information and even the Watch release presentation that don't seems to be the case! And like others brands (LG is not alone in this behavior) they are being grief!
A bit off topic, but I'll try to tie it all together.
I'm really interested in making mobile payments via a device (either phone or wrist). From what I've seen Apple watches can make terminal payments. Do Android watches do the same?
If so, where does that functionality lay? Phones with unlocked bootloaders can't pass Safetynet (I know there are some ways around this) and hence can't use Android Pay. Is the watch's payment ecosystem separate from the phone? As long as the watch is stock, mobile payments will work? Or does Android Pay need to be working on the watch AND phone?
Currently I use a Jawbone UP4 fitness tracker which has support for AMEX NFC payments. It's never really worked though. My wife has the female version and it works great, so I may have a defective unit. Looking for alternatives since Jawbone has been unresponsive.
I do not think Android wear supports this at this time, maybe when 2.0 is released
So ever since upgrading to the PIE beta on my note 8 the mag spoofer functionality in Samsung Pay is no longer working. NFC still seems to work but not the mag spoofer. Any one else having this issue or know of a work around?
I don't think the beta version of pie is designed to work with Samsung Pay.
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So ever since upgrading to the PIE beta on my note 8 the mag spoofer functionality in Samsung Pay is no longer working. NFC still seems to work but not the mag spoofer. Any one else having this issue or know of a work around?
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"beta".
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swjpilot said:
So ever since upgrading to the PIE beta on my note 8 the mag spoofer functionality in Samsung Pay is no longer working. NFC still seems to work but not the mag spoofer. Any one else having this issue or know of a work around?
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@vash_h
By "Mag spoofer", do you mean "Magnetic Secure Transmission", or MST for short, used for emulating your physical credit card's magnetic stripe?
More info here: https://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/what-is/mst/
Indeed, as of now the One UI Beta on Note8 does not support Samsung Pay. After my further testing I've found that MST is disabled, but NFC still works, so I'm using Google Pay as of now.
Really miss Samsung Pay especially the MST, as I've found now Google Pay doesnt work on as many places as Samsung Pay did previosuly, as many of the shops in my country dont have a NFC reader, but Samsung Pay worked flawlessly in the same shops in the past.
Combined with the bugs I've found with Wifi calling, AOD, broken UI, non functioning Intelligence Scan (One of my most anticipated features). Also not really a fan of the new icons tbh.
Although, I do like dark mode and the fact that all most of the UI buttons have been moved to the bottom, I'm currently contemplating whether I should revert back to using Oreo on my Note8 as a more stable daily driver and wait for the official release in February.
Did you try downgrading back?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78559698&postcount=13